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Politics › Re: Two Students Devise New Education System For Nigeria by aljharem3: 5:13pm On May 06, 2011

Ojumiii:
Sorry man but you just miss the point.
Holy Quran, Holy Bible and Torah this are books people strongly believe in, they can die for it and it a universal fact that people believe should be in cooperated in the rule of anykind which will governed them.

The best is to make C.R.K and I.R.K compulsory for all Nigerians at every level, so as to lean about each others religious norms and believes, the end result will be strong united Nigeria where respect for each other will be basis of our dear unity.

good

thank you

Politics › Re: House Speakership: Northern Reps Reject Zoning, Insist On Competence by aljharem3: 5:12pm On May 06, 2011

Beaf:
How many of those Northern members are from the Middle Belt? Interests will sing a loud song. lol
Middle Belt interests have since spectacularly diverged from core-Northern interests. So, selection by merit will be a good thing indeed.

Maybe after that, we look at child voters and the hidden meaning for total size of population, which by the way is what translates to number of house of rep members? Certain moves are equivalent to drinking slow poison.

makes no sense undecided

Politics › Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 4:36am On May 06, 2011

koruji:
I really believe in Nigeria. This development that we seek is not magic - we are the ones preventing ourselfs from it by this sentimental approach to national life.

We have to treat each other as equals from all angles, and agree on common principles that nobody violates in the corner.

Then watch the spring in our development.

i understand your point an i want the same

what makes me angry even more is the way beaf remove the north from national development as if the north is another country on his own

you see, we really need to be careful and watchful of this people, all there cheap propangada is just very annoying

Politics › Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 4:16am On May 06, 2011

Beaf:
Cow.

Politics › Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 4:09am On May 06, 2011

koruji:
@Beaf
Well, lets talk policy a little bit. When Fashola called for revisions to the revenue allocation formula that is based on two things. As you mentioned below we still have a centralized fiscal system -within that system the FG cannot sit in Abuja and jack up the minimum wage, without thinking about how the states can cope. The simple answer is follow you bill with the money. That is the first reason. The second is this silly attempt in the NA assembly to collect even more taxes that would usually go to the states and bring it to the center - they are currently tinkering with thresholds for taxation that would reduce states internally generated revenue tremendously.

They are already collecting all the oil revenue and redistributing it through straws, now they want to do the same to ordinary taxation. The VAT is not enough for them anymore. That is a serious constitutional crisis in the making.

What ACN is calling for is a balanced restructing of our polity. Not a seccessionist agenda, not a "it is all our resources you can feed on air" agenda, and certainly not this monkey-dey-work-baboon-dey-chop unitary system.

man, you are trying to convence this beaf since page 1 and yet they have still not change

what makes you think it is page 4/5 the animals will change undecided

Politics › Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 4:07am On May 06, 2011

Beaf:
^
Who left the zoo gate open?

who is laffing with this monkey undecided

Politics › Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 4:06am On May 06, 2011

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=660060.msg8267687#msg8267687 date=1304650943]alj_harem, you are just as much a Northerner as I am Yoruba. tongue

[/quote]i am glad you are yoruba you confused ideeiot, was it not another ideeiot brother that called himself yoruba (emeguali) and other called himself a north(hausa/fulani)

such retards

this is just the beginning angry

Politics › Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 4:04am On May 06, 2011

even the iddeiots called CPC leaders in the east said they disown buhari, why if i may ask?? they are bigots

this is to all northerners, middle belt, yorubas, edo and parts of delta and portharcount. STAY AWAY FROM PEOPLE LIKE EZEUCHE, THEY ONLY SEE THINGS THROUGHT ETHNIC LENS AND DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTRY

chikena

Politics › Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 4:00am On May 06, 2011

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=660060.msg8267655#msg8267655 date=1304650144]^^^

I always knew alj_harem was a Yoruba. This post clearly represents it.

No Northerner would care if I insult ACN. grin

Anyway, I still support Fashola. He is making Lagos business friendly for us Igbos.[/quote]moreover so because i am a northerner, it means i should not like ACN

you see HOW BIGOTED YOU ALL ARE , can you imagine shocked

such bigoted politics displayed here by ezeuche makes me want to beat him up so fast his legs will not even touch the floor

you too stu.pid ideeiots just because i am a northerner, i should dislike ACN,.,.,.daƙiƙance sususuwar ni nyamaria

Politics › Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 3:55am On May 06, 2011

Anyway, I still support Fashola. He is making Lagos business friendly for us Igbos.[/quote]you iddeiot whether i am yoruba or not is not the issue here

i am a pure northerner born in lagos and spent my life between lagos/borno and anambra so doubting me will do u no good

AS I SAID EARLIER I DISLIKE TINUBU AND ACN BUT WITH UR VIEWS AND BEAF'S VIEW, F U, F BEAF AND F YOU AND UR LIKE FOR FASHOLA

to be honest with you i DISLIKE fashola now for his views on igbos in lagos, he needs to do something fast as they are taking him for granted

he needs to learn from almajiris how it is done so they will stop saying rubbish on the internet

Politics › Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 3:42am On May 06, 2011

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=660060.msg8267599#msg8267599 date=1304648984]Did I say such? I am not your people's enemy. Simply stating that the ACN is a Yoruba party. And I am not the only one who holds this perception.

And due to the legacy of Awolowo with this particular party, I cannot support it.

How can you say I dislike your people when[b] I am in full support of Fashola[/b] and will vote for him if he runs for president?[/quote]F u and beaf and F your like for fashola

f both of you with your bigoted views

i hope tinubu and fashola are reading this or somehow information gets to them so they can see how creating a multethnic government can do.

Politics › Re: Two Students Devise New Education System For Nigeria by aljharem3: 1:31am On May 06, 2011

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=660974.msg8267351#msg8267351 date=1304641673]Why do you keep talking about this useless sharia? undecided

What good has it done you in your life? What good has it done anyone? When have all these religious things ever helped anyone?

They are all useless.

Religion is/should be a private, personal affair. It isn't the basis for governing or forming a country.

Alj Harem, if your people do not modernize, they will eventually be slaves in this country. Stop believing in things that don't work. Wake up, see what the leading countries in the world are doing, and follow their example.[/quote]ignorance undecided

Politics › Re: Two Students Devise New Education System For Nigeria by aljharem3: 1:24am On May 06, 2011

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=660974.msg8267337#msg8267337 date=1304641336]What we have in 9ja is a "patch-patch" kind of federal structure otherwise, stuffs life sharia wouldn't have made it into the country. Like I always say, the country is very conducive to our leaders cos they're stealing us dry without giving much thought to the very flawed structure we have as a country.

If we're serious as a country, sharia would never had been implemented in those states at all at all. Its just that our politicians collected nd still collect huge amounts of cash from Saudi in other to falsely maintain such religious structure.

A solution will be for them to join their ever willing cousins in Niger and Chad or practice secularism. These issues are why SNC begs to be convened.[/quote]why ? angry

them people u dey vex me now o angry

why can't sharia be implemented when even UK is looking to it not to even talk of nigeria

Politics › Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 1:21am On May 06, 2011

Beaf:
The bolded is another thing we agree on. Now take your infantile crap to the kids section of NL.

you are making no sense

i pointed out your error in your comments just like you see fit to point out the error in tinubu

accept correction and grow up

Politics › Re: Two Students Devise New Education System For Nigeria by aljharem3: 1:19am On May 06, 2011

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=660974.msg8267321#msg8267321 date=1304640884]No. I totally disagree. We can't have particular laws for a group of people and then, particular laws for other groups of people in the same country. Just cos xtians are not affected in the north by sharia (which I doubt) doesn't mean its a conducive environment for peace, progress, understanding and cohabitation. Sooner or later, all these aforementioned virtues, will be disturbed.

[b]You ask why english should be taught in the north. Well Mr Harem, I particularly don't like the english language at all but you know what, like it or not, its the business language of the world and, is still gaining ground in all corners of the globe. And so in this case, its not a matter of whether northerners hate the language or not, its for their own good. The last time I checked, Arabic was/is popular simply cos of the koran and nothing more. Will it ever be a quarter of what English is today? I seriously doubt. So my guy, you can learn Arabic and good luck with it. I happen to know the language quite a little bit cos I've been to Saudi several times.

Knowing English doesn't in anyway make one smart but you know what, it'll help a great deal in life (socialising, work etc) if one could really communicate with ease in the language. Remember, I was born into this world and met English here. I've got not choice but to be much interested in a language that'll help me progress through life.

So once again Alj, Arabic might just be what you need. [/b][/quote]i agree that english and arabic can be taught side

also, if the yorubas and igbos can have traditional laws, then what is stoping us undecided

Politics › Re: Two Students Devise New Education System For Nigeria by aljharem3: 1:14am On May 06, 2011

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=660974.msg8267287#msg8267287 date=1304640109]@Alj Harem: Your part of the country is VERY poor. GDP of $714/person (according to The Economist), comparable to Chad, Takijstan, Mali, countries like that. And this is WITH huge transfers of cash from South to North.

There is only so much longer you can wallow in backwards ways. It is putting you all at a huge disadvantage relative to not only the rest of Nigeria, but also the rest of the world.

Saudi Arabia produces 10 million barrels of oil a day. So they can afford to do absolutely nothing useful and still have a pretty decent country.

Northern Nigeria doesn't have a cash cow sitting under the ground like Saudi does. So you cannot use them as a model.

If you do not modernize and face reality, the future will be very dismal for you.[/quote]@bolded grin

don't think so wink

if you talk about the north being poor then it is you southerners fault if we are to blame

we tried to make the north develop as well but electing a president that would have the balls enough to arrest ibb, ciroma and atiku, insisted you people voted jonathan

secondly, who told you we are at the disadvantage undecided

ok forget saudi arabia, there are other countries inculing norway etc that do not have oil and they are doing well for themselves so why can't we

moreover they have found OIL IN BORNO STATE in billons of barrels so i do not see the problem here undecided

cutting from the north of borno to east and central

moreover, the north has the largest deposit of gold in relative to south afric angola etc

where there is gold, there is uranum

so i do not see any problem believe me

i think you suld be worried about how the south will not eliminate minorities all in the name of land and oil

oil is nigerians curse, that is a fact

Politics › Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 1:04am On May 06, 2011

Beaf:
^
Dude, you make some really strange comments. It is not my duty on NL to go around balancing the policicing of ethnic bigots. In any event, you are a relative newcomer to NL, so you have never witnessed some pretty ugly exchanges I had with non-Yoruba's (ask Ezeuche whom you mentioned).

I see your trick though and it is weak. You tried abusing my father to derail the topic, it didn't work (same way you tried calling me names), now you are finally attempting to discuss the topic as you should have done in the beginning (albeit with the strange suggestion that I attack Igbo's). You really need recharging, abeg, put your battery in the sun jare! Or just eat more grass.

As I have maintained, Tinubu's politics is ugly, bigoted and fascist. That is what you should put your mind to.

Dunce.

i don't care if u go around or not

u comment on the yoruba threads but once igbo u keep u foul mouth shut like a snail

it is none of my business anyway, i just wanted to point to you how bigoted you are aswell

anyway we agree on something, WE BOTH DO NOT LIKE TINUBU but calling him a bigot when GEJ is there is a bit far fetch

Politics › Re: Two Students Devise New Education System For Nigeria by aljharem3: 12:53am On May 06, 2011

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=660974.msg8267244#msg8267244 date=1304638991]Alhaji, I must say you've really really disappointed me with your reasoning here. Nigeria is supposed to be a secular country which simply means that no single religion gains dominance over the other.

About 1; You've indeed stunned me with this sort of reasoning. And so if English and maths are taught as compulsory subjects in the south, the koran should be taught compulsorily in the north? Why? You couldn't even advocate for English and maths to be taught! What kind of progressive idea is this?

About 2; There can never be peace in any country of the world whereby two religions hold sway. Its either we have a dominant religion or, the country assumes secularity. In the case of 9ja, the latter is much better but cos we've had virtually a porous type of federal system, sharia has been allowed to be implemented in the north thereby thwarting secularisation and setting the country on violent religiously-fuelled disturbances.[/quote]i must say i am disappointed in you as well

sharia has never been imposed on the south

the country is still a secular country in all reasonable sense, even in the SW , there are sharia court and laws there that only affect the muslims over there

the is sharia in lagos and about 3 sharia court in lagos alone but yet have you heard a non muslim affected by it

in the north have u heard a christian affected by it unless what he/she did was unbelievable

this law does not affect you in any form or way

and moreover why MUST english be taught in the north, what if we do not like it

why i ask

look at saudi arabia today, they are far better mojority of the english speaking country even though they are tought in ARABIC, so can't the same be applied in the north undecided

although english is not bad, i would prefer english and arabic be tought in schools just like french and english in the south

and more over knowing english does not mean the preson is brillant or intelligent/ neither does it mean development

no country is not dominated by muslims, we have had 2 christian president in sucession, that should tell u enough about our though

Politics › Re: Two Students Devise New Education System For Nigeria by aljharem3: 12:26am On May 06, 2011

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=660974.msg8267185#msg8267185 date=1304637601]The last time I checked, Nigeria was/is supposed to be a SECULAR country to the letter. We aren't even supposed to be practising sharia in the north if not for a deeply flawed type of federal governance in which we practice.

Why should the Koran be taught as a compulsory subject in schools just like English and Maths?[/quote]why ? the answer is simple

ok think of it this way

if the south, english and maths is compulsory even to university level year 1

if english is compulsory in the south why can't Quran teaching be compulsory in the north

if yoruba language is compulsory for yoruba student in the SW why can't the same be said about the north

if igbo language is compulsory in the SE why can't the same be said about the northern states

yes nigeria is a hetrogenous mixture of religion and ethnic groups but such policies will only be applied to Muslim students only and christian students or southerners can chose what ever

Politics › Re: Two Students Devise New Education System For Nigeria by aljharem3: 11:40pm On May 05, 2011

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=660974.msg8267055#msg8267055 date=1304634991]What does culture and religion have to do with teaching algebra? Or geometry? Or calculus? Or chemistry? Or physics?[/quote]it has a lot

i am a strong muslim and in science I would have been tought that God does not exist or God's existance is scentical proven
this i am against

moreover, in sharia states, i would prefer if Quran is tought as a compuotry subject in classes just like maths and english

moreover there are even certian dress pattern the student have to adhere to, which southerners might not like

Politics › Re: Two Students Devise New Education System For Nigeria by aljharem3: 11:36pm On May 05, 2011

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=660974.msg8267049#msg8267049 date=1304634899]@Ileke-IdI:
I[b] don't buy this cultural diversity stuff in education. I think it is mostly a function of how much money you have to spend, and how efficiently you spend it[/b].

Math, physics, English, etc don't give a damn about you being Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, etc.

I don't know off the top of my head what the worldwide education rankings look like. But there are bound to be some countries ranked higher than naija which are about as wealthy (or more importantly, spend about as much on education per student.)[/quote] huh

i think you should buy the cultual diversity stuff

Politics › Re: Two Students Devise New Education System For Nigeria by aljharem3: 11:35pm On May 05, 2011

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=660974.msg8267024#msg8267024 date=1304634323]Name one and we can start the discussion from there. If you can't name one, let's just stop from here.

Like someone said, what works in one corner of the world might not in another. Put cultural diversity into perspective, please.

This is like asking Nigeria to emulate N. America's health system.

Do not belittle the work that these youngsters have initiated. You need to understand that their system might possibly not only work for upper education system, but also for Primaries, JSS, and SS grade levels.

There's a reason why Ekiti state is having its education summit right now. Not because there's not one education system out there, but to make close to perfection the ones we have and to add new methods (like the ones Olubukola and co devised).[/quote]good ileke_idi

@ekt_bear

apart from the incomes it also has to do with culture, religion and so many other factors like that come into play

Politics › Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 11:30pm On May 05, 2011

Beaf:
Thank you. Tinubu has made ACN into a sectional party, he is also a worse criminal than Ibori that will never be accepted in the SS where he is concentrating his best efforts.
Kill yourself if you do not have a sensible counter argument and because you cannot change the perception of the people. lol!

How are the other youthful but wasting almajiri's doing sir?

i dislike tinubu as well and i think he should be jailed or presecuted but you go around calling ekt_bear, Gbawe and others tribalist when ezeuche, chyz and co are even doing worse

you say you are not bigoted and i held you for your words to be neutral but i have noticed a certain pattern in which you are going and it is not good

you attack the yoruba tribalist but free the igbos,.,.,.,.,., why ? is it because yorubas voted for GEJ and now he is there you think the power lies in the SS and SE hands ? if so then GEJ is not nigerian president but SS and SE president then

if we go along that logical thinking then GEJ will have a hard time ruling this country, even if he deploys the military, 4 yrs will soon be over, then what next (jason).

i hate the way tiunbu4life, gbawe and others shout Tinubu about but still u can not deny the fact that ACN governors are doing well if just fashola

u said u are currenting staying in lagos and probably enjoying good road, now did that come for PDP or GEJ certainly not

the way things are going i strongly believe this almajiris you shout about has more brains than you

don't you think ?

Politics › Re: Two Students Devise New Education System For Nigeria by aljharem3: 11:15pm On May 05, 2011

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=660974.msg8266978#msg8266978 date=1304633608]There are plenty of good education systems already in the world. . . why not just use one of those? But most importantly, fund it properly and ensure accountability?

No need to reinvent the wheel[/quote]what works in other part of the world does not neccessary mean it would work for nigeria

Politics › Re: Two Students Devise New Education System For Nigeria by aljharem3: 11:11pm On May 05, 2011

hmmm interesting

Politics › Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 11:10pm On May 05, 2011

Beaf:
^
Bros, you still eating grass?
Its really affecting your mind badly sha!

bros i am just being honest with you here undecided

hate or like it

whether i eat grass or not is not the issue here

the issue is that u are an ideeiot undecided

no offence just the truth

if u do not believe me ask your biological father if u have 1 undecided

Politics › Re: Power Sharing: It’s Either The Senate President Or Speaker -s’east Reps ! by aljharem3: 11:07pm On May 05, 2011

gadogado:
All of a sudden, zoning must be strictly adhered to! IT IS HYPOCRISY THAT WILL NEVER ALLOW THAT USELESS COUNTRY DEVELOP.

that is nyamaria for u

thay say something and do another

Politics › Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by aljharem3: 11:03pm On May 05, 2011

Beaf:
Madam, simply face the topic and stop trying to dodge. I like most, fail to see what PDP has to do with this topic. But the paranoid always see far out angles. Lol!
In case you missed the obvious, the threads title is "Acn Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige."

Dodging the question does not stop non-ACN people from outside the SW seeing the party as ethnically bigoted at best and fascist at worst. Why don't you try to convince us, instead of going off on a tangent?
Fashola would make a much better leader than Tinubu who is a known criminal and lacks the level of civility to interface with other ethic groups. His greatest efforts outside the SW are in the SS where his uncouth methods are interpreted (99% likely correctly) to be a very desperate, loveless, exploitative, anything goes dash for major oil producing states. It will be resisted.

beaf, i have to be honest with u

you are an ideiiot and an very stu.pid for your recent silly act of "a detribalised person"

u go around saying ACN is a yoruba party and insulting people that say it is not

u even insulted tinubu after your oga jonathan used a preseidential jet to beg him

what type of ideiot are you, i ask?

thank God people lika jason and physics are here to shut ur f mouth off about SS

you are here insulting Gbawe, ekt_bear, enjoyjo etc calling them a tribalist when you are the biggest bigot on NL only next to ezeuche and zstranger

mo.ron like you should go an hang in the thick tar of crude oil that your region depends souly on

I am just being honest here brother

Culture › Re: Philip Emagwali:I Am Yoruba from Onitsha And Onitsha Is Yoruba Land! by aljharem3: 5:11pm On May 05, 2011

RoadStar:
The problem is that the author is talking from a modern concept.

He is Yoruba by birth as he was born in Yorubaland.
The same way Obama is American by birth.

He is Igbo from Onitsha by Heritage
As Obama is Kenyan by Heritage.

But he was referring to his ancestral influence.
Philip has always been a pro-black Pan-African.

He is a modern man while some of you are just tribesman.

obama has kenya linage but he is american now

philp has igbo linage but he is yoruba now (he as been sucessfully been yorubaized and so will his children and other generations)

Culture › Re: Philip Emagwali:I Am Yoruba from Onitsha And Onitsha Is Yoruba Land! by aljharem3: 4:30pm On May 05, 2011

RoadStar:
Whats so surprising about that ?
Present day Igbo is a civilization made up of migrants from far and near.
Which explains the the fact that Igbo is the most varietal language.

Same can be said about England who trace their roots from various parts of Europe and Scandinavia, Bavaria and Rome and even Greece.
Some even claim that the royal family is from Germany.
These does not make them any less English.

A certain philosopher once said that civilization is the coming 2gether of cultures.
That is also why the Igbos throughout history has never had a central control.

Only uncivilized remote tribes can claim a common ancestory.
But I no call anybody name o !

i think that is a bad anology

if u talk of england, a least they acknolege they are english people but with german or what ever linage

ema said he is yoruba and acknologe his igbo linage

born and breed in akure

Culture › Re: Philip Emagwali:I Am Yoruba from Onitsha And Onitsha Is Yoruba Land! by aljharem3: 4:09pm On May 05, 2011

kasiem:
Nnewi is an hausaland and ojukwu is ibb's elder brother

don't be dumb haba

he is one of african greatest scientist according to igbos

thus he denouns he igbo linkage and went to yoruba

he has denied any connection with igbo

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