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[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=667027.msg8317676#msg8317676 date=1305355046]Even Kalu sef dey eulogise Awolowo ? I now see why ibos are frustrated.the thing pain them well well.

ROFLMAO[/quote]hey don't bring tribalism to this topic

this issue is serious and a national issue

the current zoning formula in order of power is as follows

President (South-South)

Vice-President (North-West)

Senate President (North Central)

Speaker (South-West)

Deputy Senate President (South-East)

Deputy Speaker (North-East)

National Chairman (North East)

SGF (South-East)

Senate Leader (South-West)

House Leader (South-South)

Senate Chief Whip (North-West)

and the House Chief Whip (South-East).

OAM4J:
I will say it is a good lesson for SE. Let them protect their region 1st like the SW, this ultimately will lead to true federalism and a weaker center if every region does the same.

correct

J12:
What more can I say?

say anything, your contribution will be appreciated

OAM4J:
honestly i dont care about SW producing the Speaker for the house of rep. So I'll say let the SE have it, if it will make them happy.

according to what i have gotten so far, the SW do not want this position

hmmm, this more than a political betrayal for the SE but most importantly the nation

come to think of it, what about the promises he made to the nation, or is he going to betray us as well

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port harcout is not part of igbo land

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beaf you need to read this as well

Beaf:
One day you will finally realise how foolish you are. We are all praying for you! Holy Ghost fire! Holy Ghost fire!

Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

beaf u are a hypocrite and a very very bad person/ evil

when MEND was kidnapping bombing killing innocent people (igbos and yorubas) in the north, you did nothing also your GEJ did nothing as well

also why did GEJ betray us

Igbo after 2011 elections: What next?
By Orji Kalu [Okalu@orjikalu.com]
Saturday, May 14, 2011
I have known a long time ago that Nigerian politicians, no matter how you choose to look at them, are not yet grounded in the art of diplomatic and political fineness. They still play politics of the stomach and are not always ready to keep to promises reached. You could recall that before the 2011 elections, Igbo were in the forefront of the campaign for a Goodluck Jonathan Presidency. They threw their hat into the ring with so much confidence and faith that a Jonathan in Abuja would serve their interest best. They consulted widely and built bridges of friendship with other geopolitical zones in an effort to realize this lofty dream. They went a step further to bar any Igbo from contesting the presidency until 2015.

In difference to this collective call, I subsumed my own presidential ambition and supported it. Even though I had felt differently at the initial stage about the whole project, I chose not to play the spoiler’s role. For those who know me personally, I have always chosen a seemingly unpopular cause whenever issues of national consideration come to play. In this instance, I was a bit sceptical because of the outlandish approach our people adopted. They were a bit hasty and naïve. In truth, whenever any issue that concerns a people’s future crops up common sense and wisdom should take the centre-stage, rather than undue pandering to emotionalism.

And so Igbo queued behind their ‘son, brother, in-law, and kinsman.’ They stood stoically behind him and even attempted to disown whoever had a contrary view. Then came April 9, 2011 – all Igbo resident everywhere in Nigeria came out in their numbers to ensure that the dream came to reality. And truly it did. Their votes – running into millions in each of the five states that make up the South East geopolitical zone – gave the president the much needed respite to clinch a massive electoral victory. The whole place was agog with celebration – at least for the first time in the far-flung past somebody related to them would control the reins of power in Abuja.

But gradually that dream seems to be evaporating. Some other interests are beginning to undermine the collective expectation of Igbo, who have suffered unmerited chastisement since the war ended. Don’t mind the daily sing-song of ‘no victor, no vanquished,’ Igbo are still systematically and systemically ethnically cleansed. Who will convince me there is no secret agenda to continue to impoverish and degrade Igbo?
I am not amused by the ongoing intrigues to sideline Igbo again. Of the five key political positions up for grabs, none is suitable for an Igbo man or woman to occupy. I read a very disgusting story in one of the national dailies about the distribution of these offices, aided by the usual hanky-panky of a former president who has continually bestridden the corridors of Aso Rock as if he is still in power. He is said to have masterminded a secret plot to deny Igbo any of the positions that might lift them politically and economically.

If what I read is true, then the Igbo should bid farewell to their dream to reassert themselves more forcefully in the nation’s political life. I read that it has been agreed in principle by the leadership of the People’s Democratic Party (PDP) that while the Senate Presidency should go to the North Central geopolitical zone; the Speakership should be occupied by somebody from the South West; while the North East should get the party chairmanship position. As consolation the zone has been slated to be given the position of the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF). What this means, in concrete terms, is there is nothing substantial for the South East.

The question then is: where then lay all the toils of Igbo these past months? Why should Igbo be used as a pawn in the chessboard by politicians to actualise their selfish plans and dumped? I find this situation inexplicable, especially when I consider the pivotal role they have played in uniting and developing Nigeria.
Those who witnessed the enthusiasm of Igbo to vote in the last presidential election would see the desire of a people committed to positive change. They trooped out to make ‘one of their own’ president with the hope that it would benefit them. Some critics are already blaming Igbo for over-trustworthiness, while others see the decision to back South-South for the presidency without a formal agreement as the height of political naivety and amateurishness.

In any case, my thinking about the current subterranean moves to sidetrack Igbo from reaping the fruit of their labour is that there is a well-orchestrated plot to make Igbo more politically irrelevant. I have never believed that those who talk about courting the support of Igbo ever have any regard for them save for what they stand to benefit in the end. This attitude has always guided the way other tribes treat them. In every engagement with other ethnic groupings in the past Igbo had come out short-changed. Yet, they have learnt no lesson from their misadventures.

I still recall with deep pain the way Ohanaeze and other Igbo groups worked for the success of PDP in the last presidential election. They staked their hard-earned resources and reputation to ensure that Jonathan won. Analytically, there is no geo-political zone that voted for the president as holistically and sincerely as Igbo did. Should they, at all, go cap in hand begging to be given the speakership or Senate presidency as they currently do? Should anybody despise, cajole or humiliate them just because they are seeking some recognition in a nation their forbears laid down their lives to find?

I find it even more worrisome that nobody from other tribes has uttered a word in support of the genuine agitation of Igbo to be duly recognized in the sharing of key political offices in the land. Everybody seems to be satisfied with the ding-dong game playing out. Before the elections, Igbo were seen as the beautiful bride, with almost everybody that mattered seeking their support. They made all kinds of promises to them. For instance, they promised them the presidency in 2015. And naively Igbo believed them. How would it be possible for them to get the presidency in 2015 when they could not get even the speakership or Senate presidency in 2011? I think 2015 is a more complex matter than 2011. The emergence of Jonathan as president has upset whatever equation that had existed that would have produced a president of Igbo extraction in 2015. It would have been easier for Igbo to fight for the Presidency in 2015 if the result of 2011 presidential election had gone the other way. The interest of the North is already skewed towards 2015. The happenings around the country point to their desire to reclaim the presidency in 2015.

Perhaps, what Igbo should do, in the interim, is to rearticulate their strategies and see how they can redefine their collective aspiration as a people with a view to presenting a more united front in future. The present crop of leadership in the geopolitical zone lacks the dexterity and deftness required in such a sophisticated political game of survival. The type of leadership we require in Igbo land is one that is upstanding, focused and proactive. It is not the lax, lackadaisical, whimsical trumpeting of a few individuals who masquerade as messiahs when, in actual sense, they are a bunch of desperadoes and ideologues on a mission to satisfy their self-aggrandizement. Forget the Ohanaeze and its cohorts! They lack tact and diplomacy. In fact, they are responsible for the current quagmire Igbo have found themselves in. Imagine taking a people of a population of about 48 million on a wild-goose chase without any concrete subsisting agreement? Tufiakwa!               
I have often avoided the temptation of being drawn into unnecessary conflict with anybody or organisation. But I am forced to do so in this circumstance because of the buffoonery and chicanery of a few persons that have outlived their usefulness and yet have refused to quit the stage. Should Igbo, with their retinue of egg-heads and wealthy and rich sons and daughters, still allow themselves to be led by blind, visionless leaders? Our effort will pale into nothingness if we continue to live this way. Certainly, our forbears will be kicking in their graves when they see the insults being heaped on our people.

How did Igbo get themselves into this mess? This question has become necessary in order to be able to locate the crux of the matter. The problem dates back to the time of the great Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe as ceremonial president. He devoted his time and energy to the unity of Nigeria and paid little attention to the welfare of his own people. This deviated sharply from the approach the sagacious Obafemi Awolowo adopted. The place of prominence Yoruba occupy in Nigeria is traceable to the visionary leadership Awo offered them.

I do not want to be misunderstood: Dr. Azikiwe was a great man, nationalistic and patriotic, but he was too trusting and pan-Nigerian.     
I am appalled by the way Igbo are being treated after the elections, having stood in the forefront of the campaign to elect Jonathan President. I am certain many Igbo feel the same way. The burden of the whole thing will rest squarely on Igbo leaders that championed the cause of Jonathan’s Presidency. How would they be seen by the majority of Igbo that trusted them and voted for Jonathan? In fact, it will be better for them to fight it out by ensuring that Igbo get one of the juicy national offices at stake. Anything in the contrary will not be acceptable to our people.

It is important at this juncture to dismiss some of the reasons being adduced for not zoning the senate presidency or speakership to the southeast geopolitical zone. One of the reasons is to balance the equation of power through religion. What is wrong if Christians occupy the positions of Speaker of the House of Representatives and president of the Senate? There are precedents. In 1979 Joseph Wayas was Senate President, while Edwin Ume-Ezeoke was Speaker of the House of Representatives. Both are Christians. In 1993, Moshood Abiola, a Muslim, and Kingibe, a Muslim, were elected President and Vice President, respectively. In 2007, David Mark was elected Senate President and Ike Ekweremadu his deputy, while Patricia Etteh occupied the position of Speaker of House of Representatives. Three of them are Christians. Why then the lame argument about electing two Christians as Speaker and Senate President this time round?
I wish to associate myself with the agitation of Igbo to produce the Senate President or Speaker of the House of Representatives. It is a fair and equitable demand, considering the pivotal role they played in stabilising the polity and ensuring the emergence of Jonathan as President. Let it be said anywhere that Jonathan probably would not have become President without the support of Igbo. This is why I expect the president to personally show interest in what is going on. He should not sit aloof and allow things to play out on their own. If he is apathetic, definitely, Igbo will lose out and it will not do any good to his image.

There is no doubt that the enemies of Igbo are at work to frustrate their dream. But the God who has always fought for them will not allow them to succeed. Their destiny lies in the hands of God who has brought them thus far. But Igbo themselves should rethink their role in the national life of Nigeria by being more assertive and diplomatic. They should avoid undue sentimentalism and view every issue with the seriousness it deserves. They should not be carried away by what they hear or see; rather they should consider every matter purely on its merit in line with the realities of the times.

Unlike Yoruba with a definite political identity, Igbo are like sheep without a shepherd. Since the death of the Great Zik, it has been everybody to his tent. Awolowo is dead long ago but his spirit still looms colossally among his people. They revere him even in death, and have never deviated from the principles for which he lived and died. “Awoism” has gradually become an integral part of the life of Yoruba. The 2011 elections brought out the best in Yoruba unity and political suaveness. With Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN), they are better placed to negotiate political power. As for Igbo, they are just ‘follow-follow’ people, having traded their rights for a pot of porridge.

As stakeholders in the Igbo project, it behoves us to stand up and seek our rights. Generations unborn will not forgive us if we allowed our self-centred inclinations becloud our sense of reasoning to such a level as to lose our identity permanently. It is very instructive that these things are happening at this time of our national life. I remember how much I was vilified by my own people just for standing up to fight for what belonged to us. They called me all kinds of names, thinking that I had a personal agenda. Sincerely speaking, I feel deeply traumatised that we failed to grab precious opportunities that came our way in the past to make ourselves more respectable and visible in Nigeria’s political space.

It is not yet late. We can still redeem the situation by standing united and, in one accord, approach the president and other relevant personalities and argue our case objectively. I am, all the same, happy with the consciousness our people have displayed so far since the whole horse-trading and subterranean manoeuvrings started. Those who win battles are those who fight consistently and fearlessly.
There is no place for lily-livered, jaundiced leaders in the life of Igbo nation. Our people have been known for their bravery, sagacity and ingenuity. And this is the time to show it in large doses.

A labourer is, indeed, entitled to his wages; and one good turn deserves another. I know Mr. President is listening. Let him do something fast before it becomes too late.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/columnists/kalu/2011/kalu-may-14-2011.htm

manny4life:
One thing I will tell all the Igbo's on NL, please don't get worked up. Besides, I have carefully analyzed most of  @ alj_harem post, all he seems to do is stir up anger amongst you guys, and the most important part is that he enjoys doing it, so the best thing to do is ignore him and his comments. The more you respond to him, he will have the opportunity to respond to you; however, if you ignore him or his words, he won't have that opportunity thereby making him look (go figure).

Arysexy:
@ bluetooth, u typed the above about Ojukwu. I curse that hand to wither! u are a sill.y ba.stard. your fada if u av any is a compost manure leave. Death to u and your cowardice fada! your fada can't withstand ojukwu's shadow. Hide your face in shame COWARD!

@ alj-haram, i hardly comment on your topics cos u are simply a not-so-smart person! continue in your mental delusion! F.ool!

i think u 2 are eddiots, did i change the title from the source or is the sun newspaper not an igbo owned newspaper again

keep insulting alj harem like he cares

bunch of eddiots, go meet ohaneze for their silly acts

i think u are saying this because the current zonal arrangment does not favour igbo since you people are the once shouting the end of zoning because you though igbos were the best in the world and zoning is only short changing them

i might be wrong

don't annoy eze today

ezeuche and chyz are in a very bad mood

tankwa:
alj_haram
Yu ar a silly useless .Yu ar not ashamed of yua useless nature at this prime time of yua age.It does appear yu have sucked yua mama's smellish kitty before coming here.In yua on interest, I am placing [size=14pt]caution[/size][/b]What do yu do if yu see caution. [b][size=24pt]apply break and slow down for yua road safety[/size].
useless vagabon. dan iskan kawai. Orie oda. yua mama kitty shater into pieces. bush barawo. Ashawo

so u don't find the title funny

i did not make up the title, click on the link

the sun newspaper is run by an igbo man like you and i ( i am half igbo by the way)

for the rubbish u put above, same to u and ur family

this is rubbish, absolutly rubbish, in as much as i do not like jonathan, he should be respected since he is nigerians president
what insult

why is this not on the front page

[quote author=High_Chief link=topic=665224.msg8306091#msg8306091 date=1305209230]^^^Nobody used us and nobody has successfully tricked Ndigbo before, we were only smart to detect on time the plans of some hating Yorubas to influence GEJ. Until we do not get the rightful dividends and political promises GEJ promised us then we will stand up again for our right. We are not push-overs[/quote]already blaming them so fast

ezeuche is one of the very funniest character i have ever come across both on the interent and real life

babaearly:
Just like the three posters above me.

huh

namfav:
they don't regard our lives, 1 southern killed, and they go to kill 5 northerners that is the state, they believe northerners do not value human lives like in maiduguri they were killing people who have wives and children discriminately  it was even on al jazeera many people they kill are not even given trial, of course mend militans are not killed before trial like they do in the north, they give money to the family of the corpers even to mend militans who surrender, will they compensate the people and family of people they abused and killed in custody without a trial? (according to decleration of human rights which the federal government of nigeria respects everyone is innocen until proved guilty by law)

can u imagine, although it is been time since i last visited maiduguri

so now northern lives have less value than southern lives in nigeria now,.,.,. well i blame our northern leaders in every sense

they allow the media to write rubbish about us and also allow southern leaders to send troops up north to kill us like rams,  

if we voice out, they would say we are violent, so now should we keep quite and allow people just to be killing us ? NO

i was in ibandan sometimes last year, and a fulani man was killed, yet it did not hit the news

but once an igbo man is even bleeding , you would see the WORLD NIGERIA MEDIA voicing out

the sooner we remove PDP and likes of ciroma from the north the better.

this people are just enjoying the money and still not looking for our interest,

where is arewa to voice out for us ? no where, all they do is take money and keep shut

rubbish

SNC SCN SNC SNC

this what we need in nigeria and yet funs are equally distributed

reading this thread from the beginning is so funny

it is a clear case of "he who laughs last, laughs best"

fino