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Johndoe100:
Same old story, Yoruba ritualists so sad.

You are very silly. DO you not know that the majority of the kidnappers are Igbos leaving in the SW

With two pistols, Lagos police invade kidnappers’ den

Two of the arrested kidnappers were later identified as Kenneth Okonkwo and the other Azubuike Okafor.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/10/with-two-pistols-lagos-police-invade-kidnappers%E2%80%99-den/


etc

so stfu and know what you are typing.

That is just one scenario, I can get you at least 20 scenarios from lagos to Oyo of kidnapper of non-yoruba origin

stu.pid ideeiot

naijaking1:
I just like the way you dey change your ethnicity the way women dey change wrapper

change ke. LOL that is the reality

Moreover why is edoyad and co making Middle belt seem like it is only christian zone ??

We all know that is not true.

macjive01:
TABLETS

FLAT SCREENS MONITORS

LCD PANELS

AND LAPTOPS of course.

i guess he wud merge it with his existing company that made most of the INEC 3-in-1 printer- bio scanner - laminator DC machine used for the INEC exercise.

he is really going to create employment

what is your estimate on the number of employments he can create ?

edoyad:
What do i mean ? I mean the middle Belt has christians, muslims, pagans and what ever religion exists on planet earth.

If there's no middle belt why don't you google it ? Coming from North East Nigeria, a part of the region of the world described as the worst on Planet earth[The UN], you'd do yourself a world of good to read more.

I AM A YORUBA MAN (Awori tokan tokan) WITH NORTHERN (KANURI) HERITAGE and Igbo (Anambra igbo) as well

Thus I am not from the north east but SW Nigeria.

No one is forcing religion on any one but Majority of Middle belters are Muslims and I used maps and approximations to tell you that

naijaking1:
You understand the pressure to pick and chose muslims for offices in these areas.

do you mean states like benue and co because as far as Kwara, Niger, Kogi, nasarawa are concerned, there is no problem in that

HECK even Lagos it is usually a muslim ticket so as my yoruba brothers say Kini big deal

edoyad:
Why are you people trying to put a state religion on the Middle Belt ?

What do you mean ?

edoyad:
FYI ,The middle belt comprises of a most of the North Central geopolitical zone; some parts of the Northwest like southern Kaduna and southern Kebbi; and some parts of the North east like most of Taraba state.

Bros, there is nothing like middle belt, it is just a geopolitical expression by PDP

Middle belt aka north central are 6 states

The traditional Yoruba believe that everything within nature on earth possesses a consciousness; plant animal mineral and man. The Orisha’s characters are based on the characteristic nature of the planets; their movements, such as oppositions, trines, sextiles and conjunctions in astrology and astronomy. These celestial events are interpreted from the Yoruba’s own cultural perspective.

The scope of this article is not intended to discuss the Ifa religious system in its entirety; only the major Orisha as their correspondence to the natal birth chart, the houses, inner and outer planets and transits.

If you could imagine the beginning and end of a circle you would come to understand the never ending cycle of creation, reincarnation transition and that all things created have a destiny that is influenced by the heavens. In traditional Ifa the Orisha or god of destiny is Orumila; also known as the oracle Orisha. Within the divination system of the Yoruba the Opan Ifa; divining board used in Ifa divination is similar to that of the astrological birth or natal chart that is divided into twelve houses equaling thirty degrees, the distance it takes the sun to travel in a day.

The twelve houses of the natal chart are areas of life governed by a particular planet, in regards to the traditional Yoruba’s cultural perception of ones existence these houses would be ruled by a particular essence in nature or Orisha; for instance:

The first house the self or outward appearance and surface personality is Aries the ram ruled by Mars, within the Yoruba tradition the Orisha of iron and steel, Ogun the warrior god possessing assertive and aggressive characteristics rules the first house. It is Ogun who is the patron of soldiers, police Officers, surgeons, railroad workers, welders, body builders, or anyone employed to work with iron and steel.

The second house the house of material possessions and money is Taurus ruled by Venus the goddess of love; within the Yoruba pantheon Orisha of the rivers lakes and all bodies of fresh water. Oshun the mother of abundance dominates this area of life; motherhood, wealth, and love.

The third house the house of duality, balance, communication, high energy is Gemini ruled by Mercury. The cosmic twins of the Yoruba pantheon the Ibeji; dominate in this area of life they are the ying and yang, positive and negative energies existing within all life.

The fourth house pertains to issues surrounding the home. Maternal, protective, nurturing and instinctive; qualities dominate in Cancer ruled by the moon. These are the attributes of the Orisha Yemoja, Orisha of the ocean, whose ebb and flow of the tides are a result of the moon which is an attribute of her as well.

The fifth house Leo ruled by the sun; a house of enjoyment romance, children, and most of all creativity in all aspects of existence. Here the illumination of the sun is reflectant of the wisdom of Orumila the Orisha of destiny who sits by the side of Oludumare the creator god of the Yoruba. It is within this aspect of existence where man chooses his or her destiny and it is recorded by Orumila in the presence of Oludumare at which time the breath of life is given to man upon his or her emergence on earth; hence the creation of man.

The six house Virgo a house of work, health, and service ruled by Mercury. Out of the Yoruba pantheon of Orisha it is Esu Orisha of the crossroads who is responsible for communication in every aspect of existence between the Orisha, the ancestors, man, and Oludumare. His realm of existence lies between the spirit world and the material world. His domain is within the crossroads; when the sun moon or planet crosses over into a various zodiac signs to assert a particular influence. This is an aspect of Esu, working to ensure that the other Orisha are able to serve their purposes. He is also known as the divine messenger the most important Orisha within the pantheon. His influence may also be found in the third house as well.

The seventh house of partnerships is a house of balance and harmony; a trait of Libra who is ruled by Venus. Here is another domain of Oshun that falls within the realm of love, romance and marriage. Oshun relishes in elegance, beauty, grace, artistry, charm charisma and refinement. She is the Yoruba goddess of love.

The eighth house of Scorpio ruled by Pluto this is a house of absolute power. Scorpio is one of the most powerful signs of the zodiac is it any wonder that the warrior Orisha Oya, also the storm goddess of the Yoruba dominates this eighth house of transformation, regeneration, death, sex reincarnation, and other peoples money; inheritances and financing. She is the hurricanes that form on the West coast of Africa traveling across the Atlantic with winds that generating anywhere from seventy to two hundred miles an hour, she is the tornados and twisters that uproots trees and houses. She is the only force within nature that has the ability to change the face of the earth from her destructive winds. This powerful Orisha is also responsible for carrying the spirits of the newly departed to the spirit world. In Nigeria it is Oya who dominates the market place. In some parts of Nigeria she is Oya of the Niger River; a force within nature to be respected, and a most formidable warrior attribute when invoked to fight for women’s rights.

The ninth house the domain of Sagittarius; a place of higher education, religion, philosophy, and divine law; ruled by Jupiter the planet of expansion, growth, and good fortune is the largest body in our solar system besides the sun. This would be the Yoruba’s planetary counterpart of Obatala the father of the Orisha; owner of the white cloth, he is the purity and illumination at its zenith, the Orisha of wisdom and intelligence, ruling the physical body his domain is all white fluids of the body, the skeletal structure, and the brain.

The tenth house of career status and reputation dominated by Capricorn is ruled by Saturn. The Yoruba pantheon of Orisha associates Babalu-Aiye with the planet Saturn, which is the taskmaster. Saturn is associated with patients, discipline, limitation, and structure. Babalu-Aiye is considered the Orisha of the earth. He can bring forth either prosperity or sickness and disease, for is also known as the deity of small pox, in Catholicism he is referred to as St. Lazarus.

The eleventh houseis the house of Aquarius dominated by upheaval, rebellion, and sudden unexpected events. Ruled by Uranus these characteristics of rebellion, upraises, sudden changes, and upheaval are traits of the warrior Orisha Shango the Orisha of thunder lightning and fire. During the course of history when Uranus was aspecting, or transiting Pluto this was a time of great change through acts of war and war, slave uprisings, and rebellions, especially in the Caribbean islands. The civil rights era was violent and turbulent as well bringing about great change. These historical events throughout history as violent as they were would be associated with the warrior aspects of not only Shango but the Orisha Ogun, and Oya. This fiery energy of the heavens denotes aggressive and assertive influences of the heavenly bodies. Within the Yoruba pantheon such Orisha would be called upon for protection from ones enemies.

The twelfth house of Pieces ruled by Neptune is deeply submerged in secrecy prone to illusionary facets of reality. This house is centered on seclusion and spirituality. This house of the subconscious is dominated by Olokun the Orisha of the ocean floor. Deep and mysterious his realm is; the old Yoruba proverb says that nobody knows what lies on the ocean floor. His aspects are reflectant in the dream time, the subconscious, and the altered state of consciousness when one enters spirit possession, ritual and various levels of initiations and numerous rites of passage. Olokun is considered to be the star of Africa; he would be considered the owner of the great mystery systems of Africa; known by many names. He sparks within us the genius within our being activating our super subconscious.

The interchangeable role played by the Orisha, and endless celestial bodies and their influence on one another can be somewhat overwhelming. As the study of astrology and astronomy becomes more advanced our comprehension of the Orisha and their planetary characteristics and similarities continue to remain a mystery to the uninitiated.



Read more: http://relijournal.com/paganism/west-africas-orisha-and-astrology/#ixzz1b4uxkd6q

aribisala0:
i wan cause riot

soludo is the man

jmaine:
^

No talk am again. . . You want make some people come wounjure you . . .

Do wetin, woundjure kini ?

They know what I am saying is true about ACN and Tinubu and no one can deny that.

The man and Adams are ACN's saviour.

I am still yet to see what Amosun and co are doing about the railway and economic integration of Lagos to other ACN states and Nigeria at large.

To me it seems that it is only Fashola that is in ACN.

chy101:
Onlytruth, So I should leave my job and start taking pictures around the city of Awka just to convince you on the workability of Anambra state. No picture whatsoever can clearly describe the good works of Peter Obi in Anambra. The gov is silently revolutioning Anambra, you may not see it now, but this man Peter Obi has gone far in creating enabling environment that recently made major multinationals to queue in line seeking attention to invest in Anambra.

I respect you with passion even though I have never met you before, but I can't believe you have to say all these things about me? Its shocking and rankles the mind the degree you have to go in other to cast reflection on my person. This is unacceptable, well I will not join issues with all these, because one day, I mean someday you will get to understand the course we are fighting for. lets God Judge

ARE YOU WORKING FOR ALJ HAREM ?

It seems like it to onlytruth and I

jmaine:
Oga Harem, For ya mind you don dodge 

Dodge wetin ?

But on the real, Yes eko ile , seant02 and co should be added.

Very good, the faster fashola leaves ACN, the better for him.

I don talk am

jmaine:
I laced a trap for you and you ate it as expected, yet you tell us your not partisan . .mentioning only names seen to be supporting a particular platform . . . . . . expected you to mention other ardent party supporters like Gbawe, seanet,Eko-Ile et al.,  together with those names you claim you have problems with . . .

But this thread goes to show that Corruption is a common denominator with all political parties in Nigeria . . .all they require is an opportunity to operate  before they unravel the usual corrupt antecedents of Nigerian politicians

I guess you missed the "etc"

eko ile and co as well

jmaine:
Who are the likes . . .scared to mention names or your just into beaf

Point B, Papabrown, henry101, Johndoe etc

scared of what ?

Pukkah:
^^^Exactly.

Our bias should be for good governance for long-suffering Nigerians and not party-induced. You're free to have a soft spot for a political party though but you should be fair and firm to speak against bad governance wherever you perceive it.

gbamm well said.

that was my problem with beaf and his likes.

Beaf:
If you are an ACN supporter, I would come across that way indeed. Lol!
ACN is a party that takes the scoop for hypocricy, corruption and outright lying (they helped scheme Tambuwal in).

A couple of things I stand for unreservedly, are development and uprightness. To that end, I see the likes of Tambuwal, Bankole, Gbenga Daniel, Ibori and Tinubu as great enemies of Nigerian society; Tinubu especially is a purveyor of the politics of ethnic bigotry and dangerous separatism.

from beaf Thank God

He has given you conscience  and be sensitive to Nigerians.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=783536.msg9360689#msg9360689 date=1318878492]Australia sef says Borno haram, Abia haram, Anambra haram

Oh, and regarding what the Americans know about Nigeria?

Well, given the way they seem to have all the Nigerian politicians squealing to them like pigs and sharing gossip like market women, probably they know as much as anyone does about the country.[/quote]Every single state is haram o !!!

Lagos or SW states are not any better

@Kabonic

I am sorry If i came off as a rude poster. My apologies

I want to know the factor you were talking about.

NRI PRIEST:
TRY VICE PRESIDENT.EVEN AT THAT HE WILL HAVE TO BE THE LUCKIEST MAN ALIVE.
LOOK AT THE KIND OF REVENUE AND ALLOCATION AT HIS DISPOSALS YET HE MANAGED TO DROWN LAGOS STATE INTO DEBT.  Presido nobi akara ooh!
PETER OBI(okwute ndigbo),STILL REMAIN THE MOST FINANCIALLY SHREWD GOVERNOR IN NIGERIA OF TODAY.
INFACT,I THINK PETER OBI WILL MAKE A GREAT LEADER IF HE EVER GET THERE, SOMETHING FOR U TO THINK ABOUT, JUST THINK ABOUT THIS!!!

What is Lagos state revenue and In fact what percentage of that revenue goes to Lagos state pockets ? I want to know

Let me remind you that there are some infrastructures that are own by the FG and not LSG itself.

Don't even go to peter obi

Skii:
@kaboninc,

This is what a lecturer told me about why German industries are better than British industries
After world war II in the mid 1940s, much of Germany was levelled, so they had to rebuild from scratch! Britains industrial areas werent totally damaged so all they just did was to repair. Fast forward to now, with population explosion and over crowding,

I say in terms of your argument (physical infrastructure), GEJ has it going for him better, Fashola is tight and constrained to what he has.

Creating Eko Atlantic, Lekki free trade zone out of the water is a good prototype/model version of what Fashola can do with the vast waste lands of the North

abi !!!!!!

kaboninc:
People just sit down and type rubbish on their system. Do you know the genesis of that "betrayal"? Abeg do your research before typing.

LOL i am not ready to go into this discussion with you

clearly you do not know what you are talking about, do what research exactly ? That he was betrayed or what, Maybe you need to do yours and stop confusing people.

kaboninc:
When developing a state, does the name TINUBU appear as a factor?

SO WHAT FACTOR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THEN

kaboninc:
Maybe you should answer your questions yourself in your contradicting manner.Afterall my post was RUBBISH

Is Tinubu the factor you were talking about or what exactly ?

You spoke of factors that needs to be considered and as I said, there are different factors and I expect you to mention them so I can get your point.

Who is my post self-contradictory ?

hercules07:
@alj

If tinubu leaves Fashola alone, he will be impeached within days, do you think he has not fallen foul of some procedural rules, forget it, Tinubu has enabled Fashola and a lot of the projects that will define Fashola were started by Tinubu.

My brother, lets stop deceiving ourselves of this so called "necessary evil"

When Awo did the SW, did he have any God-father that helped him with the politics ?

Even when his political ally Nnamdi betrayed him, He still did his job and that is why people would never forget him. He had no God-father.

Same with Bello, Bello did not have any "necessary evil" He love the north so much that with the little money the north was getting, He did free primary school education etc.

so this Fashola needs Tinubu is just a lie we all use to comfort ourselves

kaboninc:
Good! I thought you understood the meaning of PROJECTIONS AND STATISTICAL ANALYSIS very well before you made thins comment - You create a small model and see if it works before going large."
Maybe you should understand your comment before insulting someone.
Our prototype this time (Lagos) has so many things working for it. One for sure is that it used to be the capital and even Fashola himself admitted it. Fashola met infrastructures here when he came on board. He wasnt responsible for the number of companies sited here in Lagos, nor the industries, nor was he responsible for the strategic location of Lagos. He's just complementing and building on what he saw here.

Na wa o

You mentioned factors and I said which factors, there are a lot of factors in Lagos and Nigeria that needs to be considered and I meant which factor in particular were you talking about .


@Bolded

SMH

so GEJ did not meet infrastructures in Nigeria before he became the president ? Or Nigeria was VOID AND EMPTY

hercules07:
What most people who have spoken against Tinubu have missed is that it is Tinubu that has allowed Fashola to perfrom, he has the assembly men in his pockets, he has settled all those troublesome grassroot politicians and has told them to leave Fashola alone to perform his function, Tinubu is Fashola's enabler, if Fashola becomes a President today, he needs someone to play the dirty side of politics for him.

LOL and that person would be tinubu a thief right?

Tinubu is infact dragging Fashola and Lagos down. FACT !!!

Once tinubu is out of the equation in Fashola's political career then the sky is the limit

Skii:
Taking a que from your post, it reminds me of design in engineering. first a prototype of the design is made and tested mimicking all possible factors in reality. The results are then gathered and the design is improved upon

If Lagos were the prototype, and all factors of Lagos considered and Nigeria is the real thing, I still conclude, Fashola would perform. Equate all the PDP God fathers to Tinubu, all the Boko Haram and MEND to the area boys in Lagos, what else? Given all this Fashola still dey perform,

+10

kaboninc:
In your model, lets say its a state, like Lagos. And I suppose there are some factors you'd put in to consideration - seen and unseen - and see how your model progresses? Right?

Hmmm my apologise; I do not understand your point.

What factors are you talking about here ?