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@ ADEBYTE

Give the kudos to Spyder!!!
Let me explain some things to you here.
I will send it to your email as well.

Buying the woods, and cutting it is good and at same time not good.
I will explain to you so that you can choose what you want.
I bought and cut 44 pieces of 2 by 6 to 2 by 2 and lost 10 naira per pieces
The total woods that came out of them was 132 piece and I lost 450 naira for that
But the advantage is higher!!!

For example, 1 piece of 2 by 2 sells for around 250(that is the price I got for Akun.)
Please use Akun! It is one of the best woods to use I can assure you!!! No carpenter
that wants to do your roof for you will tell you this because it is very difficult to drive
nails through it. It is very hard and very long lasting.
The advantage of buying a full wood and cutting it yourself is that; if you buy in pieces,
you will really loose more money! Though you may not know it, but you will. The money
you will loose will be when you buy 2 by 2 as 2 by 3.
How?
The people that sells the wood have a way of maximizing their profit with YOUR OWN WOOD
and you will not. For example, 2 by 6(inches) wood, can be divided into 3 pieces of 2 by 2. As in,
divide the 6 by 2 = three. But what they will do is that, they will cut some of the 2 by 6 into 4 pieces
and as a result, the 2 by 2 wood will be very very small(not up to 2 by 2). And that is how you will
see it everywhere in the sawmill, because that is what they all do. But if you buy the 2 by 6, you are
sure to get a full wood, which is always stronger and better.
    Furthermore, if you understand the trade very well, you can do what they are doing for yourself. By cutting some of the big
2 by 6 woods into 4 pieces, or into 3 pieces, and have one of them bigger than the other 2 and call the bigger one 2 by 3 and the
other two, 2 by 2. And again, you can cut some big 2 by 6 into 2 pieces as 2 by 4 and 2 by 3.
    I saw all this with my own eyes and I no go lie, I no fit buy wood wey them don cut down again. Except I am buying in a very small
quantity.
Also, please note that the carpenters, have no business with whether you cut woods or not. Don't just go to any sawmill and let them pack
some useless woods for you. Like the woman that sold my wood for me, was introduced to me by my lawyer. She and my lawyer were very
close friend. Maybe that was why she was a bit honest with me. She took me to where she stores her woods, and I selected the woods my self.
(i need to select the woods because of the kind of roofing I am using. All the woods has to be as straight as ruler. So I made sure I select
big, straight and Akun woods).I went there with my carpenter to identify the wood they call Akun.
    Also, those carpenters can plan with the wood seller behind you, to remove certain amount of woods.
Can you believe that my carpenter tried that with me?! The woman called me and told me that the carpenter ask her to remove a total of 100 woods
BROSES, I counted all my woods by myself. Expecially when they were loading it! As the motor the do pin, I dey pan!
I give them close marking. I follow the motor, shout, curse, and i nearly swear gon!!! Everybody their na thief.
And atlast, i carry more than the woods wey I buy come house. After everything, from around 9:30am
we reach house around to 8:00pm. One naira, I no even give the carpenter!!!
I will send you the contact of my carpenter & the woman that sells the wood but you have to ask again!!!(abeg the carpenter na thief ooo. So SHINE YOUR EYES!!!)
But their work is MAGNIFICENT!!!!!

I donesend all this mesages to your email.
Also, tell me where your area!!!

nosmas:
thanks bro. this is my mail
delesamson1st@yahoo.com

Bros you've got mail!!!
If you can't find it in your inbox
try checking your spam folder
PEACE!!!!!!!!!!

Nice pics
keep them comin
, I mean more :

^^^ no wahala brotherly

BROSES, The bricklayer don start to dey plaster the gutter roof design thing
and the thing dey take time gon
because of the shape!
Unlike normal wall, E get design wey them need to do with time ni

He is doing it for 25k!!
PEACE!!!

nosmas:
@ Am Alone pls waiting for your response. thanks

Man it was an architect that did it for me and he charged 160k
its being 3 months and am yet to get it!!!!(though he asked me
to follow him to town planning to collect it, but I refused, because
I don't want to spend any extra money).
So I am yet to get it!!! Do you still want his contact?
Your email then.

--- This topic is for educational purpose. When you embark on a something worth dying for,
it is best you know what is good and what is bad to avoid ,
The truth is bitter but most be told!
So Falck Peace!!!

timothy001:
@Am Alone, AMEN you will never lose, God is with YoU.

Thank you Broderly,

I like to point all this things out so that people who read them
will understand how thievery all this people can be,
Before I begin this project, I prayed for GOD's INTERVENTION
and of course, that is why this people no just fit dupe me easily

I sent the manage of the company a text
that they should forget the job because of their dishonesty
and he called back and started apologizing!!!
He has agreed to do the roofing for N300 per square meter firstly
and the ridges, he agreed that it will go for 1600 per 2meter length
but he still insist the square meter is 435. In my text, i told him some
other company measured less than 300 square meter. So he said
we should just buy according to the company and it if is enough,
then I won't have to buy again!!!


I will be at the site today to do my own finding sha about the total number of
ridges that will be need. And the total square meter of my roof(another person/persons
will be there to do that for moi!)

GOD HELP ME MAKE I NO LOOSE ANY MONEY TO THIS PPL

egin:
I really like the way you ignored the so called study or whatever above. This thread should remain what it is- The real cost of Building------------

Man, I tell you fact up there. It may make no sense to you, but I am very sure it does makes some sense to some other ppl
I no get urges for anyone. And mind you, that statement above is not off-topic! Stuffs like this are very essential when it come
to construction! Na my honest contribution. You can always ignore it bros!!!

_{Now e pain you say when you ask me question regarding where I buy my toilet pipes and accessories I no answer you abi?
You need to know how to ask something from people. No try to make am look like you dey do the person favour by asking
them for something!!!!}
PEACE!!!!

The Company that wan't to fix the roofing sheet for me sent me a text yester-night
It seem they are not very honest at all.
I purposely did not mention that my carpenter who introduced me to them
went behind me to do some 'collabo' with the manager of that they should
tell me the stone roof sheet is N3,900 per square meter.
But I went ahead to do some findings and discovered it was N2,800 per square meter
and I called the manager to ask him why he told me it was N2,800
and he was said it was this it was that, blah blah blah!!!
Check out the quotation
435 square meter @ 2800 = N1,218,000(First I wonder how the roof go even take enter 435 Square meter!!!)
ridges 94pcs of ridges by 1.45 length each @2000=N188000(this same manager don tell me say ridges na N1,600 and say the length na 2meter each)
gutter we used alunimium 20mts sheet @ 1250=N25,000
Installation @400 per square me = 174,000
accessorie 40kilo of nail@3000= 12,000
paint power 3 pcs@3000 = N9000
transportation #30,000
Grand total = N1,656,000

It seems this so called people are not very serious
there is no way my roof will be more or up to 300 square meters
that is why it is very good for one to be smart. and always shop around
I will talk to the man on phone, maybe i cancel the contract with themn
I may go and get some other people for the job. This may delay the roof
as I will have to take my time again to look for another company that
can be honest with moi and give me the perfect job!!!!

My own extimate for that roof is around a million!!!!
That is why I strongly recommend builders to wise up!!!!
[size=5pt]_{SO F.U.C-K PEACE!!!!}[/size]

This is for educational purpose, not to cause any arguments or disrespect my man SPYDER(the olorogun of this thread)!!!
This is not to challenge him but to air the truth and advice the people!!!!


Below are two set of blocks. The first ones are hand mold blocks, and they are just 6 weeks old.
But the second picture are machine fabricated blocks and the are 4 months old till today
Please kindly check and compared the two pictures of machine fabricated and hand mold blocks,

house is a life time investment. Please build them in a way you are sure
it will last that long,  And don't get it wrong that things like this don't matters
because they sure do! Because with time, the walls will crack up or the sand will begin to fall of the blocks
because they were not tightly packed. Even if the house is plastered. It can still crack up!

PLEASE ALSO CHECK OTHER PARTS OF THE BLOCKS OF THE 2 PICTURES
PEACE!!!!

I want to use this as a means to educate some of us who may not know.

PLEASE I STRONGLY ADVICE YOU NOT TO USE HAND MOLD BLOCKS. IT
IS NOT GOOD/ADVICE-ABLE FOR A SOLID HOUSE. EVEN IF YOU WANT TO
MOLD YOUR BLOCKS BY YOURSELF, PLEASE US MACHINES. MACHINES FABRICATED
BLOCKS ARE THE BEST FOR YOUR HOUSES.

This is my simple explanation.
after mixing of sand with cement, those people who do mold blocks with hands
will just use wood to hit the sand in the mold(the iron that cast out the block)
and they will go and lay it to count as one. The force they use in forcing the sand
to compress in the mold that mold the block is very little. Because it is just a man's
strength.
   But compared machine mold blocks, after the mixing of the sand and cement, the molder
pack the sand into the mold, and a machine, vibrates and compress it. As a result, because of the
force of a machine cannot never be compared to that of the average or 'super human' it force and
really compress the sand, making the block stronger and more long lasting,
Another example is this.(this is a simple example, and this will be like our experiment!!   )
Take two empty tin can or dip plate, fill the both of them with wet sand(not very wet sand)
then call first tin A and second tin B. For tin A, just use light force to compress the sand, in the tin.
it it reduces below the brim, add some more and compress only will a light amount of force. then for
tin B add sand, and compress is a great amount of force. you can jump on it if possible, or say use a
very big wood or iron to force the sand into the can. If the san reduce below the brim, kindly add some more
and repeat the process till it can take no more sand. First use your hand to weight the two thing, then secondly
turn the empty tin upside down, like you are baking the sand. To allow the sand out(try not to destroy the shape
the sand will come out with) and closely study the two product of A and of B.

Result; you will notice that B is more compress with almost no space of any kind, but A is a less compress and may
not be able to hold it new shape of long.

This I believe is common sense,  And it does applies to building as well. Hand mold blocks are not advicable,
Another one you can experiment is this;
Get one hand mold block, and one machine fabricated block
keep the two blocks in open space(but out of reach where people can break any of them)
and leave it for say 5 to 6 months. By then rain and sun must have storm them these two blocks.
Go back to the blocks and check out the block that is still in good shape.
The hand mold blocks would had really tear away,  But the machine fabricated blocks
will be in its perfect shape!!!!

superde:
@ Am alone,

Can you please share with me where you intend to Buy your security doors? I need original seucrity doors ( 4 ft and 3 ft).

Thanks

Bros, please be a bit patient. So that I can give you the perfect place to buy. First is Mushin

But I heard of some other place which I cannot remember its name. So if I find out, I will holla here on NL

This is what my roof look like as at today(right view!)
I bought a total of 131 woods today for the carpenters
to complete the noggins with. They have done more than
50% of the nogins, and have finished the roof(remain the facing boards)
The plumber have started his own work
and the electrician will continue with his own work tomorrow
the A/C man is through with the piping of the a/c
and the Bricklayers will be at the site tomorrow to start with the plastering
of the designs.
I ask the company that want's to roof the house to come an measure the
total square meters of the roof. They have taken the measurement,
and are yet to get back to me with the total square meters.
And by the GRACE OF GOD ALMIGHTY, I will start the fixing of the roofing sheet
next week.
Please
PEACE!!!!

[quote author=Demain_man link=topic=606079.msg8000962#msg8000962 date=1301302046]@Am Alone, I beg make you invite me when the time to open your house reach oooo. I can imagine the big fat original cow(s) man pickin to chop. And all the no cost spared wines and food .
Keep up the good work. More blessings.[/quote]Bros, No wahala,
You go chop, drink, sleep, chop again, drink again, sleep, and again, and again!!!!
Blessings too you too!!!!
Peace!!!

^^ For the plumbing work, I believe I got the best price anybody can boast of
My plumber is charging me 50k for 4 toilet/bathroom. Including the kitchen work
and funny enough, the 50k is for the piping and the finishing/fixing of the accessories!!!

Also base on your quotation quotation, I think you are not getting the best pipes.
My plumber gave me a quoation of about 67,000 for the piping work.
But when we got to the market, I spent 135k for the piping materials only
Reason; the quotation he gave me was just for a normal piping.
When I started taking the original stuffs, the price had to increase
But you bet, I won't have to buy them again!!!!
Like for example, I bough 35 PVC pipes just like you,
and it cost me N57,750 @ 1650 per pipe and they are
3mm tick. I stood on it, and the thing didn't even com-press!
The one you are giving quotation for is the N800 own sha!
My advice is that, you go there with him to buy those things
and also, 120k should be him workmanship for the piping and
fixing of the accessories. Or you get some other persons!!!!!!!
Again, another plumber gave me a qoutation for 155k for the piping pipes(though I told him i want the originals pipes and all)
and him workmanship was 100k.
But i went for the 50k own
since him too and give me the perfect job!

^^ Confirma!!!

Brabus, If that na switch its nice
U ARE MUCH

@ Brabus LOL

Funny you! I no understand those thing oo
Also, moi no dey to challenge anybody ooo
I just dey do for mysef wetin I don get for mind
even before I buy the land! UK or NO UK no mean
anything to me. And as a matter of fact, I have a brother
there, and another in Germany and a niece(neice wey old pass me sha) in Germany too.
I fit ask them to buy me just anything and send to me, all in the name of imported
But i believe say, I get to choose for mysef that is why I go myself. And mind you
all those thing I buy no one be NAIJA!!!(though I buy am for naija here) hahahaha
BRABUS YOU TOO MUCH SHA
I REALLY DEY GBADU YOUR STYLE
RIGHT FROM OUR DAY ONE!!!
2MUCH BRODER
ABEG POST US YOUR ROOF NA??

I forgot to inform you as well
Please if you are buying any bath tub, Try to buy the one's made of fibre
I advice everyone; DO NOT Buy the one's
made with iron! Because of Electrical leakage
O CRITICAL O!!!

@ ALL, my capenter just called some minits ago
that I still need to buy 130 piece of 2 by 2 woods
for the noggins. They have done the noggins for my
sitting room and 2 extra rooms, and I still have some
few woods left! I will be having pop on every part of the house
so they are doing the noggins 2ft by 2ft(maybe that is why I am using so much woods)
So tomorrow, BY THE GRACE OF GOD i will go and buy the woods.
so that they can just finish their own job once and for all.
That will make it a total of 1,130 pieces of woods used(though I still have some few woods
extra that will not be used again. but they are less than 20)
OLUWA CHAMPION[color=#550000][/color]

olubuffett:
Spyyder
I beg buy good quality for your bathroom, a bathroom should worth spending time in
All so get a good. Tiler and plumer to do a great job, no just do poo and run out because u no fit stand the place.

Gurl/Guy, I really gbadu your style and swagga!!! I really like the way you think
You are a person with style, class and taste.
One thing wey dey pain me about all this fake things na the way wey them take they depreciate,
you go buy and buy them again. But one original go last you enternity(if not more, )
For example, I remembered entering a friendz house whose sitting room was painted for 300k(only the sitting room o)
and its being five years since it was painted, and the paint still look like 'YESTERDAY'
PEACE!!!!

spyder880:
@ Am Alone, I love the way you spend this money, Chai! If you gat it, flaunt it. You obviously love quality and have the means to obtain it. Well done, just look for the best and enjoy the purchase, price is of no essence, you peace of mind, contentment and satisfaction in your fittings should take priority.
However, people like me will think twice before buying Twyford for 80k, its a matter of choice sha. There are toilet seats that sell for N4500 and people still shait with it for the whole life cycle of the house. On a funny note, if poo poo hold you baaaad, and you rush into a public toilet, do you start inspecting the labels or do your business and walk out?
But its all good, happy usage.

Bros WC N4,500 na fake and I no go advice you or anybody to use them. Them dey break. No be say them must break o
but them go break with time. Guy the danger of it breaking while somebody is sitting or fall on it is always very critical.
Ask any gud plumber!!!! And also make you know say Toilet don pass that levels wey besay you go just put anything there
because of say u dey go there just only to dump sh_i_t!!!
Most of the times wey my girl dey come around, she go fit dey inside toilet make i go meet her. Or she dey bath make i just go sit down there
and we go begin dey jist. I like toilet wey go be like my second sitting room to me bros.
AND I LIKE MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND SAY I NO GO MARKET GO BUY EXPENSIVE THINGS
I GO MARKET GO BUY ORIGINAL THINGS!!! JUST THAT ORIGINAL THINGS ARE ALWAYS EXPENSIVE!!!!
NO lele!!!

brabus:
Am Alone, Chop Your Life! Nuffin do you, I don't have a problem with it! I do think if you are rich enough to buy Twyford of N80kfor your house, you also need to do stuffs for the community you live! In my own case, I grade the road, did the drainage, donate 5 concrete pole and sink well for the community. N80k WC would not matter if the road to your house is an eye sore or your next door neighbour dey throw shot put.

Bros, I get mind like you if it occur to me oo!
You remember wetin bible teach us sha? Incase you forget,
Remove the peck in your eyes so that you can see clearly to
pick the stick in your brothers eyes!
WC no WC that 1 na my business!!! Anyways, goverment just help us level
our road some few weeks back. And besides, the road to my house long die
if I say i won begin repair am bros. All that money wey u see so no go reach moi
do anything!!!!
And make you know say WC 80K is not the most expensive WC in the whole wide world
I no no why 80k dey make so much waves here!!!!
I THANK GOD FOR MY LIFE
ONCE I FINISH THIS HOUSE
I PROMISE TO DONATED SOME THING FOR MY COMMUNITY LIKE YOU BRABUS
GOD YOU ARE TOO MUCH OOO!!!! SO I WILL KEEP CALLING YOU; OLUWA CHAMPION!!!!!

olubuffett:
Of course its made in uk he should know he use to leave in uk,  he bought 6,the price you saw was online price when you go to shop and buy different things u canalways bagain if they don't like it walk away someone else will sell it cheaper, if u buy your bath and spa pool there am sure they will bring the price down

You are right Olubuffett
Anyways, I bought mine here in Naija!!! for that price
and I believe price varies!!!! Also, buying in bulk is always a gud idea
I did be glad if I could had got it cheaper
but I did be sad if was not really what I wanted!
Whenever I look at it, this one I bought.
It looks impossible to get for 50k -- true talk!!!
Peace!

I forgot to mention that I went to buy A/C pipes for my conduit a/c piping today
and because I have 7 a/c for the house, The total was 88,620(including transport
and workmanship for the a/c man which is 55,000 to do the conduit of a/c and to
come and install the A/C when the house is finished. And also includes my conduit
gas cooker pipe for the passage of gas, because I want to have my cylinder outside
my house! Instead of pipe for the passage of the gas, I used copper. I was informed
it is way better. So the copper goes for 4 for the roll. then I bough an extra 5 yard
hose. Which I will use to connect the cylinder to the copper and the copper to the gass
coker!)
Also, plumber fee for the 4 toilets(including gate man's toilet) is 50k
This money includes the piping and the finishing of all the plumbing works!
Add this to the last total and you will get: N4,461,820 AS THE TOTAL MONEY SPENT SO FAR!!!!!

My Next Moves,
The bricklayer will be coming to work on Monday or Tuesday. He will be coming to plaster and dress that concrete design
and the best price I could get for the job is 25k!
  Also, I will be buying 100 bags of cement on Monday(the price is around N2,100 or so per bag here in Lagos!!! But I will update you
after I buy!!!).
Also, this week, I plan to go and buy ALL the doors for the house. and all the 7 a/c for the house. I will be buying this original imported doors
for all the house and it would cost me around 500k for all the doors alone and the A/c may cost me 400k or less!!!
For the doors, I have three  4 feet doors, and the original one goes for 80 to 150k per 4 feet door. The china one goes for 38k(for the high quality china one o!!!)
Then for the 3 feet door. The china one goes of 18k. But for the original one, I have no idea now!!!
When I get to the market and when I finish buying them, I will let you know!!!
 And lastly, the carpenters took some two days break(Thursday and Friday) and the resumed work today with the noggins. They have finished the noggins of the sitting room and 2 bedroom. They were three that worked there today. And they will resume on Monday. Also, I will have to buy some more woods for the noggins. But not very much sha I promise you! AND BY THE GRACE OF GOD ALMIGHTY, I WILL GO TO THE COMPANY THAT WILL FIX THE ROOFING SHEET FOR ME TO COME AND TAKE THEIR MEASUREMENTS. AN ESTIMATE OF THE ROOFING SHEET ALONE IS AROUND A MILLION. _{maybe less}

This is my updated cost bros

OVERALL TOTAL MONEY SPEND ON CONSTRUCTION TODAY IS NOW --- N3,623,200(and the roofing is not even finished yet!)

My total cost is estimated to 700k for ALL the plumbing materials
including all the pipes, four water heater(10litre each)
2 face washing hand basin, 4 set of WC, 1 Jacuzzi , 2 bath tub,
35 pieces of 3mm pipe(1650 and I bough 35. The fake one goes for 800 naira or so)
and more pipes, 3 mirros(original mirror with lighting system).
8 set of mixer, 3 set toilet roll holder, soap holder, 3 towel holder, Gum,
elbow(both big and small) And so much more, for my bathroom, that I won't have to
buy another thing for 4 badroom/toilet

So far Net Total Is Now ---- N4,323,200 Naira

Oga those your numbers no dey go na
I need one of this your Automatic Gate opening system
If the price is very reasonable and if it is very durable
On your fone, because moi no won put him email address h_re!

payless:
The same set but different brand of this twyford cost around $300 from LOWES in U.S. Infact, for N80,000 you will get a lot for your money if you can buy from U.S. Let me know if you are interested.

olubuffett:
a friend that just did his bathfoom says he bought  his for 50k same twyford

One more thing I forgot to mention, the ENVY IS UK MADE not US or China!!!!
My Broda/sister, NOBODY go sell UK envy for you N50,000
and make you take note say ENVY get different grades made. But for this England one
Na no go area abeg!!! But if you doubt moi! Abeg use google.

Twyford, UK Envy 2008 (professional choice) WHITE
And as a matter of fact some of this same ENVY gon dey wey be over 430 GBP
now wey i search the 2008 Twyford Envy wey I buy, I dey see 324.01 GBP/Great Britain Pounds(N67,251.08 excluding Vat. And with vat 80,703.79 NGN though both will be free delivery)

So when some people they talk about same envy $300/N50,000
You fit to won start to dey think say grade pass grade sha!!!

http://www.homesupply.co.uk/twyford_envy_close_coupled_wc_suite=NV1148WH-NV2671WH.htm

PEACE@UALL!!!

All Thanz To D GOD Called Allah;Tank U4 Bringin Me 2 Dis Hour, My Soup Neva Sour,  Na U Dey Giv Me Raba, B4 I Later Hammar. U Be mY Lover, No mater D Weather. I Go 4eva FOlow your Orda's -- No Retrit No Surendar! Den Tel Timaya Wey Dey Hot Like Fire Make him lift your name Higha!

this is the picture of the twyford that cost me 80k

olubuffett:
a friend that just did his bathfoom says he bought  his for 50k same twyford

Olubuffett, Below is the twyford I bought for 80k
Not the first picture above(that was for 30k)
Is this EXACTLY what your friend bought?
Any other person with the real price of this?

olubuffett:
You are dame right about that one most big companies, source there product form china, i told a friend this and he almost fight with me; on till i asked him to open is dell PC and nokia phone to check where it was made from not to talk of his so called designer label. like you said pay more to get the best.

@Am Alone when you say 80k for wc does it include the bath?

It does not include the bath oo
the name of the WC is Twyford Envy 2008 modern