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coss75:
what is the life span of your roof over that of aluminum,

Forever  ?
50yrs!(when the stones may begin to fall off, but the roof will still be there)
25yrs appearance guarantee(that color and shape and everything will look exactly like that for 25yrs guarantee!!)
And the beauty it gives your house is mind-blowing!!!

It is above aluminum!!

[quote author=Demain_man link=topic=606079.msg8177122#msg8177122 date=1303415707]@Am Alone, Welcome back my guy. I have kind of missed your contribution on this thread you know.   I sure say you bring better for us your boys

I am loving your house roof a lot. waoh[/quote]Bros you ask after me, you try oooo - wao!
And I bring too much beter oooo

I did some little works on my house and it cost me a total of 21,000 including cement

21,000 + 6,213,870
Net Total: 6,234,870.00

I am starting my fence on tomorrow,

I went to book 2000 block 6" @ 130 per one(best price I could get)
paid for 2 tippers of sharp sand @ 20,000 per tipper(10ton)[I have gotten a supplier for dredging sand for 20k per 10ton. This price is
unbeatable!!!!! I was paid 24k before, and later got 22k which is the price everywhere. But now I have got a supplier that can give me for 20k, this is because the man owns the truck. The normal price is 22k at best!!)
and paid 220,000 for 100 bags of cement @ 2,200 including tranportation.
I am paying 8k for the digging(1 foot 6" deep for the fence)
and the bricklayer is taking 55k for the fence. I will be the one to do the casting as well.
Total: #583,000( I will add this to my total soonest!)

@ Prince_onx
Sorry sir! But above all, i said its a lovely house na!!!!

[quote author=prince_onx link=topic=606079.msg8176974#msg8176974 date=1303414008]@Am Alone: You guys should consider yourseves very lucky for being around, available, and handling your projects yourself. Its a whole different thing when you are based outside Nigeria. One thing you should know is even when/if you build two houses with every single thing the same, on the same plot of land, by the same contractors, the price will NEVER EVER be the same. 10M, 11M, or even 12M in a project are almost the same depending on what and what you're calculating. Some folks here are adding their plot cost, omo onile fee to every money spent while some are not even adding material transportation cost. Someone like spyder880 is a very detailed person and he adds every single kobo while someone like me simply go by my invoice, I will just tell you I bought cement for N50,000 forgetting the N7,000 I paid to get it to my site.

And simply out of curiosity, (^{I no get power for debate, lecture or fight}) who do you consider every material of stuff used by someone else other than you as cheap, fake, china, or low quality? have you ever thought that something somewhere is better than what you call best. The toilet accessories you called cheap and not the best look way better than most toilets here in the US. The one in my house here in US including the floor are fiber/plastic tiles and honestly don't look as good as that. I would think it better to find out where the project is, find out if land cost is included, and which contractor before passing judgement. na so me I see am![/quote]Bros, I want him to know the truth!!! That house can be built for even 30 million
depending on the finishing. If you know something, say!
the house is magnificent. If it was much bigger, it would have worth that cash!
I love the toilet. But I mentioned the tiles used was not the best for that amount
And when it comes to detail, I give all my best. I have paid all my omonile dues right even before I start
digging my foundation. It cost me over 200k. and it is inside my the above mentioned money man. . . .
the roffing of my house alone, I paid 70k!
Bros, if that house was built is 13.5million, and the contractor is a very honest person, you sure will love it more!

Peace!!!

It comes in little pieces like this.
Two of these below makes a square meter.
Peace!!!!

I will post the updated pictures tomorrow

the house as at yesterday!

The roofing of my house commence two day ago.
And from the look of things, it is going to take 2 more
extra days. I just hope you like the finish product of the roofing sheet.
Total money spent on the roofing sheet alone is 1,466,000.00

435m2 of Stone coated tiles 870pcs @ 2700 ==== 1,174,500.00
94pcs of angle ridges by 1.45m        @ 1580 ====   148,520.00
3pcs    of power paint black            @ 3000 ====        9000.00
40kg    of stone nail                       @ 3000 ====     12,000.00
20meter of aluminum verda brion for gutter @ 1100 == 22,000.00
Tranportation ======                                  ===     15,000.00
Installation @ 200 per square meter ========            85,000.00

Total paid: 1,466,000.00

This is the best I could do! I tried my very best, some places I went, the
roofing sheet goes for as much as 3,480 per square meter.
But i got is for 2,700.00 and the thickness is 4.5mm which is the highest guage(as i was informed)
for the stone coated roofing sheet. The 4mm is a bit lighter. But the 4.5mm is quite better.
But again, you can compare it to aluminum even 7mm thickness. Stone coated is far thicker and heavier!
Peace

@ Bros Kem4,
To be honest with you, that house can't worth more than 10 million in Lagos(anywhere in Lagos, except was build in Lagos Island! Ikoyi, Lekki or any of those top places here in Lagos). But if it is in this normal Lagos, they can't spend more than 10million so far!).
I love the design of the house, but I also like you to know from what I can see in the picture; It is a small house. Very attractive, but small. And I can bet that the contract must have gained up to 5million on this project alone.

The toilet accessories are not the best(the wall tiles is very okay though!). But the accessories are not the best for you 13m.
And even for 10million, he is suppose to install security doors for you(even if its china), not wooden doors.
Poor/ fence designs too. But a very lovely house - just too small.
Man, see tru talk, that guy done make up to 5million for your head!
10million will build this for a professional! 13.5million is for a novice!
Considering the fact that cement price just went up, that contractor must have
gained alot more.
Anyways, the good new is that, if you land is say 2million, you can sell that house for 17million if it is in Lagos in around 2 yrs 
Peace.

@

kuntash:
Spyder, for u to cost it @ 10-11million and the owner says he has spent 13m or so, I think its a fair deal, cos I tried challenge your cost when I wanted to start my foundation, I realized I no near u @ all even though I was there thru out and monitored it all thru,

Note that there are some tiles that are quite expensive, like those granite tiles, the sitting room alone could cost over a million just to fix such tiles,

Bros Kuntash & All, forget it, even if you have a 50yrs experience, Let me tell you; you can't beat spyder cost! -- Tru talk! except you are building in Enugu, and you are following his procedures!!!
Peace!!

@ ALL I AM BACK!!!
!@ Demain_man, Sorry man, I was a bit busy, I came online yesterday but could not post anything as the server was very slow.
I am back! I have seen alot of things gone so far!
Anyways! Peace to y'all!!!

^^

I thought I wrote 371,000.00!

My mistake!

@ Demain_man
Check out this quotations for aluminum windows. Please note
the quoatation was forwarded to me my the engineer who will
be doing my POP work for me. He has all the contact for people
that does everything related to building. He is also a very religious
person and he's very honest! He txt the guy in my presence to
send him the quotation of aluminum windows. Later in the day the
guy forward it to him. And he forward it to me(I believe this is a very
honest quotation because the guy at first thought it was the Engineer
that needs the aluminum).

Aluminum window for sliding (imported)
4 by 4 = Each 7,000 x 10 = 70,000
5 by 4 = Each 12,000 x 2 = 24,000
2 by 2 = Each 4,000 x 2 = 12,000
Installation /transport = 20,000
Total: =N=126,000

Aluminum Sliding window(Tower Thick)
4 by 4 = each 10,000 x10 = 100,000
5 by 4 = each 15,000 x 2 = 30,000
2 by 2 = each 7,000 x 3 = 21,000
Installation/transport = 20,000
Total: =N=171,000.00

Quotation for aluminum casement window(they didn't metion if this is Towers Nigeria or imported. Though it is most likely to be tower's product).

4 by 4 = Each 28,000 x 10 nos = 280,000
5 by 4 = Each 32,000 x 2 nos = 64,000
2 by 2 = 9,000x 3 nos = 27,000
Total : =N=271,000.00(excluding installation)

But when the guy met with me, and gave me his own
quotation, it amounts to 470k plus!!! I guess because he
saw a big house!

Bros kindly compare the above prices and you will notice that they are not same. Towers aluminum is a Nigeria made aluminum and is more expensive/durable than all those imported ones, and again it is one of the best. First you need to know what you want, and use that to do you bargain!!!! Towers aluminum is more advice-able. But if you are not very much interested in quality, you can use the imported ones. Also, sometimes you may be paying for a quality one and they may mix it for you(imported an nigeria). And you will not know. What I advice you to do is to first try to know what you want and use that to do you bargain!

@ Spyder, I believe you too must have learnt a lot from this thread!
What is that with washed gravel!!!  I like your style!!!!
Also, I noticed some of your pillars!!!! Doesn't looks like something that was
mixed 1:12:12
We learn everyday!!!!    

Peace man!
And don't forget to post me some of those beautiful pics o!
Gudluck!

cool

@ Manie!!!
My own is that I am really happy for you!

@ Kuntash. . .  @ Spyder 2

First let me explain something to you. You see we humans are all different. We have our taste, desire and we all reason differently. And just like every other human like myself, I have my own phobia.

You may think I didn't do very well when I started the house but sorry to say, you may be wrong. Before I started my house, the price of blocks was 125 for 6" & 135 to 140 for 9" block! And the price of cement was 1750 at worst! Check my early post, I bought my blocks for 133  for 9" & 123(or so) for the 6" & the cement, I got it for 1730 per bag!!!! I bet you, it was very difficult even for me to get this price. And as a matter of fact, it took me up to two days go get that price. And they even supplied the cement to my site for that amount.

Everybody that bought cement during that period bought for 1750(even those that bought up to 135 bags for their deck!)
I have my own way of negotiating, and it has always worked for me.

Now my bricklayer I paid him 280,000 to build the house to that level it was. Now let me explain some other things to you. HERE IN LAGOS
No labour can serve two bricklayers cement and 9" blocks at a go! Considering the fact that 9" blocks unlike 6" is very heavy! And again here in LAGOS
the cost of labour is 1500 at worst and bricklayer 2500 at worst(even most professional once's collect 3000). And for a days job, a bricklayer will set 80 blocks
if it is 9" for a day's job and for 6", they can set 100 blocks. And If you put 80 blocks for them to set, they will not finish it because they
count per block set. As in, if they divide one block to two, and they set them one by one, they count them as 2 not 1 because it was divided and was set twice. So when they finish for a day's job, you may be surprise to see that you still have 10 blocks to 15 blocks left out of the 80 you left them with.

 Now mathematically, if you calculate 2 bricklayers to 2 labour, for 5000 blocks(I won't involve the above method even though it is cannot be neglected in the field).
Total cash is #250,000! Now not only that. You see the gutter roof casting The same bricklayer did it and it took a total of 6 labour and 1 bricklayer working from 9am to 6/6:30pm(which is a bit more than a day's job as the bricklayer has to give them some extra money). If I was to do it without giving it as a contract to the bricklayer, they would have taken up to 5 days to finish it. Now the total of this would have cost me: @ best 36,000(as it was done by the bricklayer) or at worst 48 (if it was to be done by me).
 Then again for the foundation, it took 6 workmen and 2 bricklayers(it was a ground work. So the supply of cement to the bricklayers was very high. So you need two bricklayers to move the job!) a total of 4 days to cast my foundation considering the casting to be up to nine inches high and  1ft6" wide. Considering the size of my house! So that will be a total of 60,000.
Net total : 358,000 and of course you will/may get some discount.

Now lets consider again the set of blocks that must have remained out of the 80 block that we exaggerated they will set for 80! and don't forget that they were still the once's that cast the bottom of my soak-away pit, plastered the inside, did all my 26 lintels, cast the my 12 pillars of about 14 feet tall and my big arch that has two extra pillars. Again let us not forget that they were the same person that cast the top of my soak-away pit that has 4 pillars and 2 cross beam!!! Now again consider the quality of the job done there!

And yes I forgot to tell you that the same bricklayer came to me and was begging that I add some extra money to it after they were almost through with the work. He even told some people that he don't know what came over him to collect the job for that amount.

for 280,000 in my area -- It is mind-blowing!!! !!! !!!!

Though nobody is perfect! And I have learnt alot as well from this thread
Thanks y'all!   

my angel:
Hey Am Alone,

So far you spend this amount from the foundation to roofing now? Net Total Of Cash Spend So Far: =N=4,742,870 are you sure.Please can you give me your cell number or your email add.

Yes! I am very sure! And it includes, all the pipping & fittings for my toilets, all the burglaries for the house, well, soak-away pit
And some other things sha! Let say so far what you can see there I have spent a total of 3.7million! the others have not yets be fixed
or are not in the picture yet!

I think I am doing very great!!
Peace!!!

@ Mike
Name: Rotimi
Numba: 08066619493
Please do not tell him from moi
Just call him and say from a friend
because using my influence may affect the prices
Enjoy!!!!

omonuan:
aasog: does the 23.7million cost include land? Would you be kind enough to give us a break down of the cost? I am really interested in your cost !

23.7million excluding land for a block of 12, 2 bedroom flat in Lagos. This I guess should be estimated to 2m per every 2bedroom flat right?
Considering the quality materials being used, Supposing this was a four bedroom flat I guess so far spent can be estimated to 4million right?

Now if I put this into considerations I think I am really doing great!  
Considering the beauty an extra money has cost me for the house, like the 'gutter roof' ---- 500k
like the plumbing materail                                                                                        ----700k
Considering the extra money spent so far on woods for the roof. . . .
considering the height of my building that cost me extra blocks. . . .
Cosidering the fact that this omorile has collect over 200k so far
considering the fact that approval cost 160k(heard some ppl can do it for 110 in lagos without C of O)

I thin I'm kind of doing great!

A friend dad that built a 4bedroom bugalow 3 years ago spend a total of 5million(including tiles)
it was just a nice and average/mid-class looking house


Ilovemyhouse!
Peace

spyder880:
@ Am alone, that solignum tratment is sometimes not reliable o. The last roofing I did, the whole woods were painted with solignum and a little qty of kerosene. Do you know that termites started eating the wood that were still packed on the ground waiting to be used for the roof? The termites ate even the painted parts with blackened solignum. Afraid catch me!

Spyder lol. . . . Thank you very much!!!!
But you know there was something my Carpenter told me
He said if you buy a bad wood, no matter the amount of
Soligum you add to it, it is still useless!!!!
Because you will need to get a very gud wood first, before you
can start to think of treating it. Then again he recommend I use
the white one. When I went to the market, I couldn't find it.

Anyways, I will have to go and find it ooo --- By firE By Force!!!
Thank man

Total Cash Spent So Far Is: =N=4,742,870

During the time the bricklayer used to plaster the designs,
rain fell trice. So I believe the soligum I used to treat the
wood must have been washed away. . . So I want to buy
soligum and kerosine and pay 1,000 to treat the wood again
Thought it may not be necessary, but I don't want to take chances!!!!
Soligum 3,000
labour --1,000
kerosine-3000
Total-----7k

Net Total Of Cash Spend So Far: [i]=N=4,742,870[/i]

Here are the updates on my project!!!
I have paid the bricklayer and extra 5k
for the jobs as a compensation because
the contract did not pay him for 25k at all
As a matter of fact, he ran into a dept of 12,500
with the labour he employed to work with him
and it hasn't being easy for him
I really felt for him and have to give him 5k to support him self

He has been battling the work for 11days now, and still have 2 more
days to work there!!! Also, he has being working from 7am to 7pm(which is above a normal day work)
Even at 30k for that design, I believe I still did great considering the type of job that was done there -- Perfet!

Supposing I was paying him per day job, we won't be working 7 to 7
it would be around 8 to 5 at most. And sometimes, he may even work till 4 and close for the day
that is Lagos job for you! And that would have cost me more.
And estimate of that would be around 55k. Considering the fact that you need only
one bricklayer and one labour to give you the perfect job.
If you use two bricklayers, you may save 7k5 but the hand won't be desame
and you know my policy! Quality first, and the others can follow. . . .

Mikedeoye,

Don't get me wrong, you can do better than me!
I don't have anybody to give me some info about this
stuffs before I went there. If you want more info, holla @! your boy!

There Is A Great Deal Of Joy In Original/Quality Things. . . .
You that have the money -- Enjoy!
You that have it by fate!!! -- Enjoy Too!
GOD IS GOD _nnem!

Mixer is that tap that work with your bath tub!!!
Mine was 15k. There are some that goes for as
low as 300 naira!!!

The difference is far too much man. So when I went
back to the market the next day, I went to price that same
mixer and it went for 16k plus.
One of the things that brought the price of fiitings down again
was after they gave me the total cash, I still price base on discount
and I got a discount of 50k(guess the money came out from all those
pricess that was inflated)
Okay again, the tap I bought for the bathroom pedestral was 15k
Here I believe I most have being ripped off. Thought its original with a 5yr
warranty but I think it was suppose to be like 5k or 7k at most. I never
confirmed the price anyways. The brand name is Mmaat!
But bros above all, SHINE YOU EYES BECAUSE IT AIN'T EASY

Again me no fit differnciate fake from original
na them dey know. You can take a trusted plumber with you
i did that but it seems the plumber was against moi!
Peace!!!

mikedeoye:
@ Am Alone,

I will definately do my own negotiations before Buying and i assure you i will get it cheaper. The info im trying to get from you is part of my market survey, I'm also going to check some other places before settling on where to Buy. Pls what type of Tywford brand ( set of WC and Basin) did u get for the 30K (i mean the name). I know u said u got the Tywford Envy for 80K.

U forgot to drop the Seller's contact again. Pls drop his details here for me.

One last question, how do i differentiate the fake from the Original?

Thanks

Bros, na there is go know say soup wey sweet na money kill am!!!
Like I said earlier, the guy was introduced to me by someone!!!!
My main goal is quality, not quantity!!!!
You can never cheat them. And again, we have varieties of twyford envy lol!!!
BROS you may think you are saving money!!!!
I don't have the name of the 30k twyford ooo! But you can see the pic!!!
I have stated it earlier! I bought a sink for 23k with 15yr warranty!!!
and I saw the same zinc in the market for 9k5 no warranty on it and look very okay
and again I saw another one(dont know the price) looks more like fake with a 5yr warranty!!
All same Topaz Kitchen Basin!!!!
If you won spend money!!!! You go get the best!!! Them go chop you no how, but make e just
no too much!!!!
If you no won spend money!!!! Na there you go begin buy fake things thinking say you dey buy the best
Again I still beleive say Nobody go sell twyford envy 2008 for 50k for you!!!!(but if you see am and na original
abeg let me know!!!!)
Peace!!!!

DCGUY:
@ am alone, I love the work done b4 your roofing-what is your carpenters information and the iron benders info?

I won't lie to you, BUT FIRST I GIVE GOD ALL THE GLORY!!!!
The carpenters were not the best!!!! If Not For GOD's Intervention  
those guys would have killed me at the site ooo
I had to shout and shout and shout!!!! I am very sorry, I cannot recommend them to anyone
I had to use my own sense to stop them from jeopardizing the whole job.
Again the round pillars took the carpenter 4 to 5 days to get it right(I kept correcting him!).
Though I know how to follow him up! But I don't think everybody can. Now if you ask again
you will get it!    
I leave it there. . . .

@ Mikedeoye,

One more thing, please note we have varieties of all this stuffs. They may all look alike, but the their qualities will be different.
As in they have grades.

Like for example; The kitchen basin I bought cost around 24k brand name is Topaz!
I will post the picture later. And as a mater of fact I have seen two Topaz just like mine
and the first one was for 9,500(though it doesn't have double tray as mine. It only have double bowl)
And when I investigated it well, I notice the packaging was okay(not as the one I bought!) And it has
no guarantee!!!
Then again I have seen another one with a 5yr guarantee. But it looks more like a fake or so!!
Mine has a 15yr warranty! Thought it may just be a sticker as most people may think.
But I Love it!!!!
Remember the person was introduced to me by a honest person. Nobody is perfect!!!! I mean, some
of the things I bought from them must have being inflated, BUT THE BIGGEST JOY IS THAT, THEY ARE
ORIGINAL AND VERY DURABLE!!!!
Now again, I went to the market to do some research about pricing because I felt I most have lost too much
The bathtub, I saw it for 17k5 last. But i bought my less
my house mixer I saw it for 16k5 too but bought mine for less
The water heater I bought mine for 15k, but the price was around 16k(stand to be corrected! It is 15kg Ariston product)
but there are some other things I believe must have been inflated!!!!
It ain't easy!!!! But I did my best!!!

@ Mikedeoye,

When you go there, you need to go and do your own pricing so that you don't get cheated. Don't take my own price as a standard
You know your choices may not be same. I bought my Bathtub for around 15k(twyford). It was made with fiber. I strongly advice you not
to buy the onces made with Iron because of electrical leakage.
I said I bought a set of WC, And Basin for 30k. Then the Jacuzzi I bought went for around 30 or 40k(Ideal Standard).

But you need to do your own pricing there o! Because you may get lucky and get it cheaper!!!
Then again, you don't want to buy a fake one!

Then for the Jacuzzi(or whatever!) I wish I could show that to you also! But it is still inside it carton.
I can't arrange it myself, I would have opened, arrange, snap and post the pictures for you!!!
Peace!!!

lastly!!!

When The Road Got Rough
AM ALONE!!!
Trying Too Make Too Much Money
ON MY OWN!!!