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PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 8:25am On Apr 25, 2015
benzion72:
It is not impossible to produce SE president, but Ndigbo culture is too competitive In this new dispensation Under President Obasanjo when senate presidency was zoned to SE remember the number of Senate president we had in 8 years Enwerem, Chuba Okadigbo, Pius Anyim, Adolphus Wabara, ken Nnamani Five in 8 years. While David mark was their for 8 years since 2007. Ibo people like to undermine each other. Also GEJ has spoiled Ibo show nobody will trust them to keep a gentle man agreement again
So under the OBJ admin, within 8 years we had 5 different ibo senate presidents; but David Mark (a Benue tribe man) has been the senate president for 8 straight yearshuh Wow, this is a brilliant observation. Seems one can deduce from this ibo politicians are politically unstable - why? This further buttresses the fact that if they are serious and really want to earn the highest political office in Nigeria, the ibo political elite need to learn how to play far better politics than what they have been doing.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 8:15am On Apr 25, 2015
Rexxie:
of course,the richest nigerian aint igbo...
This is something we can all agree on.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 8:10am On Apr 25, 2015
omonnakoda:
Let us start by asking the sardine why he left the key outside the tin,what is the strategy behind that. An Ibo presidency is not aserious consideration for now or the foreseeable future.Let us not heat up the polity needlessly
According to you, this thread is another "rhetorical question". Well, I see you have a very smart point and I agree with you. However, matters like this need to be discussed and contrary to your view, it's not designed to create tension, but rather to diffuse already existing tension.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 8:03am On Apr 25, 2015
disumusa:
tell them to stop hatered
Yes, they really need to stop it; but the hate they have is mostly on a "subconscious level" and some don't even realize it, while some others deny it. So I think social / religious institutions (like Churches etc) should be commended with what they've done so far, but still there are lots of ibo minds out there that needs resetting from the hateful programming.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 7:52am On Apr 25, 2015
pazienza:
No one knows Dbanj other than Yorubas! *grins*

P square are more popular than them, check out who leads in you tube views? There is more to popularity than galivanting around the world seeking for cheap popularity.

Wole Soyinka is a man that needs the Nobel prize to be relevant, Achebe was effortlessly relevant without the Nobel prize. He was even Times magazine most influential African man before his death. Haha!

Imagine comparing international stars like Jay jay and Kanu with an attention seeking Yoruba man Dbanj, you need deliverance.
Adolph Hitler was Times Magazine "Man of the Year" in 1938, just to show you how irrelevant and flawed your assessment is; and FYI, in the real world, winning a Nobel Prize holds uncountable weight far above being on the cover of Times Magazine.

YouTube videoshuh This is funny grin. I would think something like performing at the World Bank's Global Citizen Earth Day counts for greater popularity. Last time I was in the backside of faraway South America, I even heard my wealthy Latino neighbor playing "Oliver Twist" by Dbanj. Yet to you, he's an attention seeker? Oh cry me a river grin. Now I did not say Dbanj is the most popular Nigerian. Rather I said he's more popular than Kano Nwakwo and Okocha combined. Hate him all you want, but Dbanj definitely is currently probably as popular as the ibo tribe itself.

But I get it, ibos are naturally tribalistic (and the most tribalistic of all Nigerian tribes).
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op):
omonnakoda:
Why are people trying to heat up the polity with outrageous demands and abominable aspirations.A totally uncalled for clamour that will only lead to tears. We have as a nation agreed that that is not a reasonable thing to do so why are people flogging a dead horse.
So an ibo presidency can be categorized under the current political ecosystem of Nigeria as an "outrageous demand", "abominable aspiration" or a "tearful expedition"? Hmmm...this calls for a lot of thinking. But with the kind of responses some ibos here are making, I think you might be correct to a large extent. Maybe the ibos will remain in the political shadows, and continue serving as the behind-the-scenes political sidekicks, not because other tribes put them there, but because ibo put themselves there and want to be there - maybe this is all they deserve.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op):
Stillfire:
But why is it giving you sleepless nights? grin
We know the people that can only feed themselves if their people are in the 'center', the irony is that majority of that populace will still remain in poverty grin.
The Igbo man does not need the 'center' to feed his family. You guys should stop crying more than the bereaved.
The driving force of any thriving society is entrepreneurship and innovation. The Igbo has that.
You can have the politics. If you say you are the 'change' Nigeria needs, the Buhari government better prove it! Because if I smell any marginalization of my people's business in the East, I will personally pull down the Buhari government! cool
The pen is mightier than the sword! cheesy
Buhari holds that mightier pen! It's not like Nigeria needs or can't do without an ibo president because with the kind of rich diversity of tribes it has, it sure can (and seems better off that way for now). But the issue of an ibo president here is about national contribution: what can the ibo tribe do for the nation besides being parasitic on the system. And if maybe half the ibos share your kind of thinking, then Nigeria probably will never have an ibo president. FYI, I always sleep great.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 11:43pm On Apr 23, 2015
victor4ekele:
just passing by, but the real matter is that we need an honest, truthful man to lead not tribesjust passing by, but the real matter is that we need an honest, truthful man to lead not tribes
Victor O Ekele
Agreed! But our center of discussion is how an ibo presidency can be a reality in today's Nigeria. I believe there are honest and truthful ibos too.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 11:38pm On Apr 23, 2015
pazienza:
The richest Nigerians are beneficiaries of the military regime,Nigerian treasury and favourable government policies that made them monopolists.

Which Nigerian is smarter than Achebe? pray tell.

Which Nigerian is more popular than Kanu Nwankwor and Jay jay Okocha?

You have no case. Collectively in all human development indices, Ndiigbo are ahead of all Nigerian groups. It's a fact you can choose to accept, or simply go take an otapiapia and end your misery. Aka ekpuchi onwa!
With all due respect to the living and dead, mentioning Chinua Achebe (whose claim to prominence is mainly as a successful novelist) as the smartest Nigerian is not only dumb but an insult to Nigeria at large. Even in the world of literature, with all his literary prowess (and no one can deny him this), he still couldn't win a Nobel prize in literature, but guess what, Wole Soyinka is a Nobel laureate. So even, in the Nigerian literary sphere, Achebe was really good but not the best. He might have sold more books (Things Fall Apart) but quality and quantity are different dimensional entities.

Kanu Nwankwo / Jay Jay Okocha as the most popular Nigerians? This in itself is totally laughable. Even Dbanj alone is popular than these two combined grin
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 11:04pm On Apr 23, 2015
pazienza:
What failure are you talking about?

Ndiigbo are naturally ahead of all Nigerian groups in all aspects of human development.
That to me, is success.
The richest Nigerian is not ibo;
The smartest Nigerian is not ibo;
The most popular Nigerian is not ibo... And I could go on and on. So how are the ibos naturally ahead of all other Nigerian groups in terms of human development? This is just another usual false claim ibos like you make that is devoid of proven and proveable facts. Keep deceiving yourself.
PoliticsRe: Buhari Relocates To Defence House In Maitama, Abuja by Amazo: 10:44pm On Apr 23, 2015
agarawu23:
BABA know look uche face oooo



if na barcanista thief, jail amgrin
grin
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 10:20pm On Apr 23, 2015
CyerSeries:
when I said fighting for survival, I mean merit ..Set a standard for everything ..Anybody that merits the standard, let the person take it..if an ibo is not able to meet up with the standard, don't give it to him..that's what I'm talking about..did you get me?
Understood!
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 10:18pm On Apr 23, 2015
Rexxie:
correct..what people need are implementation of good and peoples govt policies,not who becomes president..the north has produced the highest number of presidents but still lags behind every other regions on all indices and scales..that the north have very rich folks like dangote who became rich thru lopsided govt patronage is outta da question,that does nothing to the huge amount of the ever loitering and pauperised talakawas and almajiris..
The sw are front runners in terms of intellectualism and education,awolowo,who got that credit and honor literarilly begged to be president for a day...and that academic feat was achieved way long before obj came onboard as civilian president and i doubt he,obj,made any inputs when he dorned that khaki..
The igbos are natural progressives,survivalists,dexterous,industrial and are trully blessed and have done extremely well for themselves and others in the face of deliberate govt strigent and harsh policies and having never substantially occupied the seat of power....
The north's rabid and thirst for power coupled with her long time in the seat of power has done little or no good to everyone and region and they are not ready to allow others direct the country's affairs.
So its not all about being president,afterall gej was there for about 6yrs and the niger delta is still degraded and denigrated;polluted and exploited.

The op talked about not entertaining issues thats gotta do with Biafra or massob..but truth is,that definitely could be what the igbos deserve and need. Same goes for the niger deltans.
I think Jonathan subtly and tactically accomplished a notable feat in the SS (particularly oil producing regions). He empowered its local political militia groups financially and militarily; and I think this was done should in case "One Nigeria" fails, they would have the capacity to prevent outsiders from accessing the oil in their lands. So ibos should take note, you can't build Biafra with SS oil, unless you want Dokubo and fellow militias to do target practice on you.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 10:07pm On Apr 23, 2015
EUROBOMBER:
Hatred can kill my brother. Stop the bitterness, Jonathan is an Ijaw man not Igbo. We only gave him our support till the end just like the North supported Buhari.

There will be an Igbo president you hear?
We all hope so, but when? How bad do the ibos want it? So far, it seems ibos want the presidency but keep doing things that keep the presidency out of their reach. Some crucial changes are obviously a necessity.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 10:04pm On Apr 23, 2015
aresa:
Like I said earlier, it's a societal and cultural thing with ibo people and I don't see it going away anytime soon, in fact it's getting worse as seen during the last few elections. It's like they don't have any right thinking adult in iboland. Look at Achebe's last book, it was filled with the same hate and bitterness rant. Ngozi Adichie's response to Oba of Lagos's statement was laced with the same civil war and tribal hostage taking garbage when in fact it's leadership failure at home. They have state governors with nothing to show after 16 years in office, the region is still unproductive and economically inhospitable for their people to thrive in, they are basically satisfied with their people forever seeking survival outside iboland and wherever they go, they end up disrespecting and annoying their host communities with the same emotional and insensitive nonsense...

They can not hold the rest of the country down with their flawed civil war emotional ransom.
This is deep.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 10:02pm On Apr 23, 2015
EUROBOMBER:
Whether the Igbo will produce the next Nigerian president lies largely with Buhari. You never can tell the way the hearts of kings function but Buhari will take a special place in Nigeria's history if he can facilitate this request and hand over to the Igbo.

If Buhari should present any Igbo candidate to his people they will accept the person without asking questions, he is like a demigod in the North.
The Nigerian presidency at this time in this new democratic dispensation can't be won via a political handout system. It must be earned.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 9:58pm On Apr 23, 2015
MalcoImX:
National politics is about forming alliances and building bridges. Amaechi, Ngige and Okorocha are called names for trying to do that. Ngige definitely would have become the senate president but was denied by the Igbo, not for lack of capacity, but simply because he's seen to be in a wrong party. They denied themselves and have now begun to accuse others of ganging up against their interests. Igbo politics is typified by the outlook of the Arthur Ezes:
“That short man called Ngige, we gave him power and he went and joined Awolowo’s people; people that killed the Igbos.
This is inimical to Igbo interest, as long as they remain part of Nigeria. But will the Igbo elite stop playing divide and rule politics with their people, for their personal gains?
Here's the sense I picked from what this smart Nigerian is saying: to achieve an ibo presidency, the ibos must play politics better than what they've been doing. Now, I think the political ecosystem in Nigeria is a shapeshifter, so the ibos need to evolve politically and be more flexible. Playing rigid politics won't work.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 9:49pm On Apr 23, 2015
ramdris:
They can if people like Ogbonnaya are nominated. The Ibo's don't seems to like Rochas and Ngige even though they seems to have national appeal. Personally, I really do want to see an Ibo President but that can only come if they start seeing other zones as friends rather than enemy The truth is to be President, u must get the support of other zones.

The idea of holding on to past pain is what is really affecting them in their dealings with other zones. Even their Leaders use the biafra war to further divide the people by using it as a campaign speech whenever a northerner or south westerners are vying for the same office with them. This has to stop for them to lead.
Another sensible contribution! Ibos are you paying attention?
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 9:44pm On Apr 23, 2015
CyerSeries:
you did not create a thread on how to better the life of Nigerians irrespective of tribe, you are creating a thread about ibo, are you Ibo? Did Ibos cried to you for president? The only thing we ibos from any government is provide a level playing ground for all Nigerians and allow us to fight for our survival ...is that a crime?
"Allow us fight for our survival" you say? This kind of mentality is enslaving the potential of the ibo tribe. This is 2015, and the civil war ended in 1970. You need to stop "fighting" others for survival and start living.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op):
xtayle:
For whatever its worth, the generality of the igbo nation must desist from tribal(simple or acute) and hate tendendencies. They must shift from their present mentality of seeing themselves as superior to others. They also must first respect others (especially d host of their places of prosperity) so others can respect them (respect is reciprocal). It will be helpful for them to start seeing Nigeria as one and act as such. No one is going to leave Nigeria 4 d other. Other tribes needs to start seeing nationalistic tendencies in them. As it is now, even though we all love them, no one trust them, they need to earn d collective trust of majority of other tribes in Nigeria.
Are the ibos reading this? Truth be told, other tribes have trust issues with ibos and the reasons are very valid. So ibos need to really work on this area. There are several nations with a nuclear arsenal but yet the civilized world don't want a nuclear armed Iran and it's simply because no one TRUSTS them with what they're going to do if they had nukes. Same way other tribes don't trust and are skeptical (with some hint of fear) about an ibo presidency in Nigeria. Just who knows what the ibos will do with such political power: maybe it will be payback time for the civil war most ibos still cling to, or maybe they'll use that political might to finally carve out Biafra and divide Nigeria, or something else. So I think other Nigerian tribes kind of view an ibo presidency as being a political wild card with so much uncertainty in its outcome. The Ibo political class and people in general need to pragmatically earn the trust of other Nigerian tribes.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 9:11pm On Apr 23, 2015
CyerSeries:
you created a thread to mock because you are in power and you expect me to tell you thank you huh...Go and help your impoverished brothers in the north..
Correction, this is not a mockery thread and if that's how you see it, then you really need to examine how you think. This thread is at worst a public discussion (a national inter-tribal townhall meeting as it were) where pragmatic ideas are shared and sensible opinions are delibrated.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op):
madamoringo:
Ibos don't need, want or will ever get to be the president of Nigeria for the next 1,000 generations at least! This is because the current set of Ibos have said they don't want the presidency as it has not benefitted every other part of the country one way or the other. I completely support that position and I think every Nigerian should.

Let them produce governors in their state but forget ever trying to be president! They neither need nor want it! They also cannot strategize towards it and the era of whining your way to leadership position is long past! No food for lazy man or no presidency for lazy people!
Hmmm, this seems like the quote of the day: "No presidency for lazy people". It's indisputable that the ibos aren't lazy, at least physically. But could they be "lazy politically" and aren't ready to do the necessary things and work hard at it to achieve and earn an ibo presidency fairly and not as a political handout some are wishing for? The ibo political elite need to answer this question.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 8:57pm On Apr 23, 2015
Armaggedon:
I am appauled by the silence of the mods at this thread.
Lalasticlala seun (or however is incharge) , someone opened a thread in the morning on how Nigeria will look like if the Igbos leave. The thread barely reached two pages before it was hidden.

Pls either hide this topic or unlock the morning one for equity to prevail. Thanks.
This thread does not in any way contravene the stipulated regulations. So leave it out of your appeal
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 8:54pm On Apr 23, 2015
MalcoImX:
And some were even saying that they were happy that it was northerners that were killing themselves. If somebody had said that to them, they'd be all over saying genocide was called on them.
Such happiness derives from vindictiveness and such people are the ones who reason such fatal atrocities on the Northern populace as being some sort of revenge against the North for the ibo casualties during the civil war. Only a deranged mind holds such a view
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 8:48pm On Apr 23, 2015
xtayle:
I told u not to waste your time. they are pompous, unrealistic and unworthy of our empathy and love. leave them to their political failures.
I will soon call it a day.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op):
MalcoImX:
The problem is you and GEJ made yourselves and his leadership an SE/SE affair, and fought everybody that wasn't ready to support his re-election.
It was really bemusing to see how that Jonathan who was elected a PRESIDENT of NIGERIA suddenly reduce himself due to senseless partisanship into the president of the SE + SS alone, and this was the story (and bane) of his presidency. For example, jonathan's government allowed the Boko haram insurgency grow into a fullblown terror outfit and for about 4 years they unleashed terror on the North East and surrounding regions and it was as if we had no government in Nigeria or better yet that the Jonathan government wasn't interested in the security of the North as if these people aren't Nigerian citizens - oh no, not that, maybe because it was not the SE + SS region. Also when the chibok girls were kidnapped, the callous indifference of the Jonathan government was just pure evil. Initially, they acted in denial that the kidnap never occurred. Now, let's not even talk about corruption. These are just a few of the fatal errors that killed the Jonathan presidency that initially enjoyed the goodwill of the Nigerian masses from all zones probably as much or more than Abiola did. It was only a few weeks to elections, when he realized election defeat was imminent that Jonathan suddenly wanted to start acting like the president of Nigeria but it was too late at that point.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 8:18pm On Apr 23, 2015
Mogidi:
It was not the political machinations of the SW that produced Obasanjo, SW has Babangida to thank for making him president.

What has the north (who boast more presidents than any region) achieved?

Tell us how many presidents the Yorubas have produced. (second biggest tribe)
Don't mix things up, we're talking about the current political democratic dispensation. Whatever it was that brought him to power remains arguable; but what is certain is that so far Yorubas (Obasanjo) ruled 8 years, Hausas (Yaradua) 2 years, Ijaws (Jonathan) 6 years and Ibos (huh) 0 years. This is the reality and Yorubas currently have the longest presidential reign in this new democratic dispensation. Now we have a new government coming up and guess what it's a Hausa president with a Yoruba VP, which emphasizes the political dominance of that socially intelligent and politically savvy tribe called Yorubas. I think the ibos have a lot to learn from this tribe, especially in terms of politics.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 8:09pm On Apr 23, 2015
ISpiksDaTroof:
So, APC will hand over power to the guy whose Region worked the hardest to destroy the party right from inception?

Ibos will not see that seat in the nearest future, not because others don't want to give it to them, but because they know the Eastern Region will hand them a poisoned chalice in return for a kiss. There's no doubt in my mind that if APC puts up Rochas as its Presidential candidate in the next election, Ibos will see that as an opportunity to finally destroy APC and ---instead of Supporting his candidacy---vote massively against him.

Ibos are the architects of their own misfortune.
Another valid point: self-sabotage!!! Are the ibos listening?
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 8:06pm On Apr 23, 2015
CyerSeries:
you are not God so shut the fvck up angry
Hahahahahahaha, did I say I was grin ? Religiousity is not a license for stupidity. Last time I checked, angels don't vote - people do! Let's see how well you intend to fair off without other tribes in Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 7:59pm On Apr 23, 2015
adeyemi2015:
Future impossible tense..... except they accept Okorocha as one of their own and fully support him to make the difference.
He's loved by everyone except his brother and sisters in the East.












We love you Igbos and we wish to taste a government led by an Igbo man.
But are you guys ready?
The ibos aren't ready now! When will they be? That's the question ibos need to answer.
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 7:57pm On Apr 23, 2015
CyerSeries:
Like I said, let Buhari solve the problem of his Arewa brothers, then we are good to go..Don't bother about Igbos, we are doing very fine.
The coming restructuring of the political framework of this country, which will likely endure for a long time that will likely effect the political isolation of ibos is not what you should term "doing very fine"
PoliticsRe: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo(op): 7:51pm On Apr 23, 2015
handsometokunbo:
Jonathan was an Ibo president, so there is no need for this thread
Jonathan was, is and always will be a SS President from the ijaw tribe. The "Azikwe" part of his name seems a political scam grin

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