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omowolewa: They can only do that to minor 'Oba'(king).

Who can do that to Ooni of ife (osumo sile sumo seni,ebiti kimo giri yinmo nu), Soun,Awujale,Okere of Saki, Olubada,oba of Lagos,Atoja of Osugbo,Oni sabe of sabe or

'Deity Alter-Ego' Alaafin of Oyo (Iku baba yeye,alashe ikeji Orisa. Omo iku ti iku kogbodopa,omo arun tarun ogbodo se. Eni tii gbingado oran seyinkule eleyin kule,iyen o gbodo faatu be kogbodo je.......)

O ma see o!!!!!!!!!!

Pataki: Apparently you have limited knowledge about the Yorubas. The more reason you should never view us with Igbo myopic lens.

In the days of old in Yoruba kingdom, a king who commits this level of corruption is either killed with all his family members, thrown into the wilderness but would NEVER sit on the throne waiting for justice to be done by some vain gods.

The monarch should even be glad that he has his life intact. Why do you think if a thief is caught in Lagos, jungle justice is immediately undertaken on such a victim? Yorubas hardly tolerate corruption, things have changed these days but nevertheless the pride of Yoruba is that we do not tolerate nonsense for too long.

Also, before 1914 and when there was no police, a misbehaving Oba would have been told to "open calabash."

Can you prove that Christians do not warship Zeus as Jesus?

The WARshippers of Zeus (Jesus) colonized your recent ancestors.

I forgot to add that the oyinbo people have admitted that they've not been able to prove/show that the word Christ is equivalent to Messiah (IMISIIYE). A useful resource for studying Biblical words is the "Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible" described in wikipedia as

an academic reference work edited by Karel van der Toorn, Bob Becking and Pieter W. van der Horst which contains academic articles on the named gods, angels, and demons in the books of the Hebrew Bible, Septuagint and Apocrypha, as well as the Christian Bible and patristic literature.

The first edition (Brill) appeared in 1995 and was chosen by Choice magazine of the American Library Association as Best Reference Work of 1996. The second extensively revised edition (Eerdmans, 960pp) appeared in 1999. An electronic edition appeared in 2001.

Advisors included Hans Dieter Betz, André Caquot (1923–2004), Jonas C. Greenfield (1926–1995), Erik Hornung Professor of Egyptology at Basel University, Michael E. Stone of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and Manfred Weipert of the University of Heidelberg.

On page 231 of this reference work under the entry "Christ" the absence of the aforementioned equivalency is confessed. The book can be downloaded in various formats for free at
http://archive.org/details/DictionaryOfDeitiesAndDemonsInTheBible

The Igbo who have been posting comments to mock Yoruba religious tolerance are probably Diala (freeborn). These people try to portray the Yoruba in bad light but maintain silence about the skeletons in their home. The Diala discriminate against the Osu (dedicated to 'gods') who discriminate against the Ume - proof of vicious religious intolerance in Igboland. There is also the Ohu. For proof, kindly read this article from Sun newspaper:

Apartheid among Igbo people

I typed it out as I could not find an online copy; an attempt at hiding intra-Igbo discrimination from the world?

The religious freedom observed among us Yoruba is causing a lot of problems as the Christians and Muslims are being used by our enemies as drones to pollute and erode our culture, and rebel against Olodumare, tear us apart and eliminate us. My opinion is sort of that Ela's (Orunmila) grace is responsible for our continued existence, which perhaps manifests as in-built religious tolerance, rather than any acquired factors.

A Reconstruction of Early Yoruba History

Nigeria’s problems caused by Christians, Moslems -Traditionalist

[quote author=tpia@]i think the subject matter has been discussed extensively enough on this thread.

you can also put a link to your blog on your profile.

i do not think the wheel is being reinvented.

let's try to stop this useless habit of bringing in all kinds of taboos, abominations and curses on your hometowns.[/quote]Why do you kick against the goads (Acts 26:14)?
Have I ever done anything bad against you? But you know what you've been doing.

Dudu_Negro, I'm very much interested in this one o! Your posts and patience with me were of tremendous help in appreciating Ifa and utterly rejecting Christianity. I thank IYE (written in ancient Hebrew as EHYE) for that. By the way, Levi = Oluwo: Le- > (O)lu and -vi > -wo.

Please include "OLOFIN" and its relationship to ALAAFIN in your discourse. I wonder if the former can only be borne by Oduduwa and no other man.

IYE is the Name of Olodumare (Yoruba for the Almighty), which is erroneously written as YAH and JAH. It is the prefix of YEWE/YEHWEH and suffix of the appellation IMISI IYE, which is erroneously written as MESSIAH, of the Rock of Ages who was born around 2,000 with the Name ESHU. The translation of IMISI IYE can be seen in Genesis 2:7 and is “IYE’s breath of life” that animates and gives life to flesh. The synagogue of Satan, which fraudulently claims to be Jewish (Lamentations 5:1-2; Ezekiel 7:20-24; Revelations 2:9; 3:9) but admit to not knowing how the original language of ESHU’s people was spoken and pronounced, writes this Name as YESHU. Unsurprisingly, they so much hate it, as seen in various online articles – google (submit an online query) “YESHU”. Since the use of another name would perhaps have added to the ease in exposing their fraud, they altered the true Name in their fraudulent literature by padding it to the right with the vowel “a”: ESHU/YESHU → YESHUA. ESHU came to this aiye (world) in the Name of Olodumare which is clearly seen in the appellation IMISI IYE but not obvious in MESSIAH (John 5:43).

The synagogue of Satan along with their fellow fraudsters of Europe and Asia, who constitute the Amorites (oyinbo/Gentiles) of Genesis 15:16 and the evil axis of Christianity-Islam-Judaism have been doing Satan’s bidding of deception by covering the world with deceit (Isaiah 25:7) and filling the nations with stupor (Isaiah 51: 17-23; Jeremiah 51: 6-10). One technique they have used to achieve these evils is to take out of the word (Scripture/Bible) as warned in Revelations 22:19 and drawing people away from the Names ESHU and IYE. An example is the replacement of the title IMISI IYE (Messiah) with “Christ.” Others include the replacement of the title IMISI IYE (Messiah) with “Christ” and ESHU with Zeus/Jesus.

“Christ” is a title that is perhaps indigenous to the [b]HELL[/b]enists (Greco-Romans) who say it is derived from the HELLenist “Christos” meaning “Anointed”. It is related to the Hellenist “Kyrios”, a title meaning “Lord” and associated with Zeus, the Greco-Roman chief god. They also say that it is the equivalent translation of IMISI IYE (Messiah) but so far have been unable to provide any evidence.

These Hellenists carried out a racial cleansing of the Middle East, including Israel, and murdered the followers of ESHU in Europe, North Africa and Asia, in order to achieve their fraudulent dominance of the world. But they could not fully translate and understand the language of the Israelites. Thus, they misinterpreted IMISI IYE as Christ either ignorantly or mischievously. They should tell the world the reason for the replacement as they could have simply used “Messiah” if they had any shred of honesty. Their use of Christ is to draw people away from the Name of Olodumare, the IYE part of IMISI IYE. In John 1:41 and 4:25 is proof of the replacement. ESHU and His followers would never have used a strange appellation from an alien language instead of theirs (Zephaniah 3:9) to describe Him.

[b]Well, Zeus has historically been regarded by the Hellenists as their Lord, as their Christ. Since Zeus is Jesus, Jesus is Christ, and Jesus Christ is a lie, Christians worship Zeus and rebel against IYE as Jesus was not, is not, and will never be the IMISI IYE (Messiah). However, ESHU/YESHU is the IMISI IYE and the Truth. ESHU’s followers are one with IYE (John 17:11). ESHU is not Christ. Christ opposes the Messiah.

Taking this further, it becomes obvious that the term “Anti-Christ” is deceptive and the actual term should be “Anti-Messiah” or “Anti-Imisi Iye”. Thus, ESHU who is the IMISI IYE is “Anti-Christ,” Jesus/Zeus is the “Anti-Messiah” or “Anti-Imisi Iye” and Christians constitute the body of the Anti-Messiah. This is not rocket science as the opposition is not ambiguous. Sadly, the Amorites have increasingly brainwashed themselves and the world to expect a delusional victory by Christ over the IMISI IYE (Anti-Christ), whereas the truth is that the IMISI IYE will defeat Jesus (Zeus) Christ and his followers. These sons of Satan have been lying thus for over two thousand years – 2,000 years of untempered lunacy![/b]

Why did the Hellenists introduce the name Zeus, also written as IeZeus, Iesous, JeZeus and Jesus into the Bible?
Is it not an act of brazen rebellion to lie about the Name of Olodumare and the Rock of Ages?
Why did the Hellenists replace the appellation (Imisi Iye) with Christ?
Why do the Amorites insist on the lie called Jesus Christ in spite of the overwhelming logical evidence that it is a fraud?
Why do the Amorites, especially of the eastern orthodox churches, acknowledge that the Aramaic Bible texts have the Name of the Rock of Ages as YESHU(A), but still insist on calling on Zeus (Jesus)?

Consequently, many do not know that they have been deceived. Many of the Amorites would have noticed the fraud of Christianity but reject ESHU because they hold on to racist views – they do not want to accept that His people are one of the Negro families and they get infuriated at the thought of Negro leadership. Some Negro families would also likewise want to reject Him because they look down on His people who are known today as the Yoruba. Some would prefer to [b]war[/b]ship the oyinbo fraud rather than acknowledge the Yoruba link, and they carry this tribalism to their profane assemblies (churches & mosques). This foolish envy is part of the cause of their enslavement, misery and expulsion from the Middle East (Jeremiah 27:1-11) and continues till today in Nigeria and the Negro community worldwide. Indeed, some of the Negro families would gather along with the Amorites of Gog and Magog in a fatally futile and deranged attempt to attack the restored Yoruba people (Ezekiel 38:1-6).

May IYE have mercy on the humble and contrite ones who truthfully seek Him (Psalm 51:17), draw them unto ESHU (John 6:44) and thwart the efforts of those who want to prevent such (Numbers 22-24), Ashẹ!

buzugee: bruh ? the ancient egyptians are black people but they are a different kind of black people. they are hamitic. we are shemitic. there are two kinds of black people, hamitic and shemetic. the ancient egyptians had us in slavery for around 400 years. black on black crime. if there is any similarity between ancient egyptian culture and the biblical stories, its only because us black shemetic israelites were held there for 400 years and our culture rubbed off on them. they has us in slavery building all those pyramids and whatnot. however the ancients egyptians themselves have their own culture which is worshipping the sun and the dead. the ancient egyptians got kicked out of that region by the romans and ishmaelites and there are lots of evidence pointing to the fact that they are the somalians of today. the boko haram thing going on in nigeria ? the hausas and fulanis are hamitic black people while the igbos and yorubas are shemetic israelites. its a spiritual battle. its deeper than what it seems. hamites are the true and original indigenes of the land of ham ( africa ). hamites are hausas, fulanis, somalians, ethiopians, erritreans. they are a different stock of black people and have a different spirit.

dr Ray Hagin is not in his right mind. he is into egyptology. we are not egyptians. alot of african american people flock to egyptology because they think we are the ancient egyptians. we were slaves there under the egyptians.

your best resource http://frombabylontotimbuktu..co.uk/

FLEE FROM BUZUGEE!!! Don't let him mislead you with misinformation and illogical conclusions.

Where's Negro?

Crayola1: Not, all the way true. Up until the 20th century Western medicine was not much better than a placebo and often medical procedures did more harm than good. Until the late 1800s-early 1900s Europeans used AFrican medicine to treat certain tropical illnesses.

Do you know of traditional surgical procedures in West Africa, apart from bone setting?

What many don't yet know about European medicine prior to the 19th century:

[size=16pt]British royalty dined on human flesh (but don't worry it was 300 years ago)[/size]

They have long been famed for their love of lavish banquets and rich recipes. But what is less well known is that the British royals also had a taste for human flesh.

A new book on medicinal cannibalism has revealed that possibly as recently as the end of the 18th century British royalty swallowed parts of the human body.

The author adds that this was not a practice reserved for monarchs but was widespread among the well-to-do in Europe.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/20/article-1389142-07A3D6F7000005DC-581_306x423.jpghttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/20/article-1389142-078599D2000005DC-569_306x423.jpgMedicinal cannibalism: Both Queen Mary II and her uncle King Charles II both took distilled human skull on their deathbeds in 1698 and 1685 respectively, according to Dr Sugg



Even as they denounced the barbaric cannibals of the New World, they applied, drank, or wore powdered Egyptian mummy, human fat, flesh, bone, blood, brains and skin.

Moss taken from the skulls of dead soldiers was even used as a cure for nosebleeds, according to Dr Richard Sugg at Durham University.

Dr Sugg said: 'The human body has been widely used as a therapeutic agent with the most popular treatments involving flesh, bone or blood.

'Cannibalism was found not only in the New World, as often believed, but also in Europe.

'One thing we are rarely taught at school yet is evidenced in literary and historic texts of the time is this: James I refused corpse medicine; Charles II made his own corpse medicine; and Charles I was made into corpse medicine.

'Along with Charles II, eminent users or prescribers included Francis I, Elizabeth I's surgeon John Banister, Elizabeth Grey, Countess of Kent, Robert Boyle, Thomas Willis, William III, and Queen Mary.'

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/20/article-1389142-0C2CF41400000578-229_634x504.jpgNew world: Depiction of cannibalism in the Brazilian Tupinambá tribe as described by Hans Staden in 1557. Whether true or not, the myth ignored the fact that Europeans consumed human flesh


The history of medicinal cannibalism, Dr Sugg argues, raised a number of important social questions.

He said: 'Medicinal cannibalism used the formidable weight of European science, publishing, trade networks and educated theory.

'Whilst corpse medicine has sometimes been presented as a medieval therapy, it was at its height during the social and scientific revolutions of early-modern Britain.

'It survived well into the 18th century, and amongst the poor it lingered stubbornly on into the time of Queen Victoria.

'Quite apart from the question of cannibalism, the sourcing of body parts now looks highly unethical to us.

'In the heyday of medicinal cannibalism bodies or bones were routinely taken from Egyptian tombs and European graveyards. Not only that, but some way into the eighteenth century one of the biggest imports from Ireland into Britain was human skulls.

'Whether or not all this was worse than the modern black market in human organs is difficult to say.'

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/20/article-1389142-0C2CFFD100000578-485_634x342.jpgThis painting of Charles I's execution in 1649 shows people surging forward to mop up the former king's blood. It was thought to have healing properties


The book gives numerous vivid, often disturbing examples of the practice, ranging from the execution scaffolds of Germany and Scandinavia, through the courts and laboratories of Italy, France and Britain, to the battlefields of Holland and Ireland and on to the tribal man-eating of the Americas.

A painting showing the 1649 execution of Charles I showed people mopping up the king's blood with handkerchiefs.

Dr Sugg said: 'This was used to treat the "king's evil" - a complaint more usually cured by the touch of living monarchs.

'Over in continental Europe, where the axe fell routinely on the necks of criminals, blood was the medicine of choice for many epileptics.

'In Denmark the young Hans Christian Andersen saw parents getting their sick child to drink blood at the scaffold. So popular was this treatment that hangmen routinely had their assistants catch the blood in cups as it spurted from the necks of dying felons.

'Occasionally a patient might shortcut this system. At one early sixteenth-century execution in Germany, 'a vagrant grabbed the beheaded body "before it had fallen, and drank the blood from him..".'

The last recorded instance of this practice in Germany fell in 1865.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/20/article-1389142-0C2C9A4200000578-463_306x443.jpghttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/20/article-1389142-0C2C99C900000578-219_306x443.jpgHistory: Author Dr Richard Sugg, from Durham University, delves into the dark world of medicinal cannibalism in his new book Mummies, Cannibals and Vampires


Whilst James I had refused to take human skull, his grandson Charles II liked the idea so much that he bought the recipe. Having paid perhaps £6,000 for this, he often distilled human skull himself in his private laboratory.

Dr Sugg said: 'Accordingly known before long as "the King's Drops", this fluid remedy was used against epilepsy, convulsions, diseases of the head, and often as an emergency treatment for the dying.

'It was the very first thing which Charles reached for on February 2 1685, at the start of his last illness, and was administered not only on his deathbed, but on that of Queen Mary in 1698.'

Dr Sugg's research will be featured in a forthcoming Channel 4 documentary with Tony Robinson in which they reconstruct versions of older cannibalistic medicines with the help of pigs' brains, blood and skull.

The book, called Mummies, Cannibals and Vampires, will be published on June 29 by Routledge and charts the largely forgotten history of European corpse medicine from the Renaissance to the Victorians.

Source: DailyMail


Our people must have been really wallowing in mire that these Europeans colonized and brainwashed us.
What's to stop these Europeans to openly engage in same again?

The following is proof that the European "orthodox" medicine is inferior, unnecessarily costly and insane, and that many blacks have been brainwashed [i]war[/i]shiping Europeans.

[size=16pt]Scientific Medicine In Pre Colonial Uganda[/size]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6H13Mi6Kds

That scientific research and medical practice did exist in pre colonial Africa, and present day Uganda at that, baffles many- not only Euro-centric skeptics, but also their wannabe African cousins as well. What is even more remarkable is that evidence of this rare feat is recorded, not by Africans, but by Europeans! Let us take an example of pre colonial Bunyoro. There is evidence of outstanding medical excellence- at least judging by the international standards of the time- in this supposedly remote area inhabited by a 'primitive' people.

I will not mention, as has the distinguished historian Shane Doyle that clinical tests that have shown that their cures for eczema and post measles bloody diarrhea were more effective than Western medicines, or that their herbs have been shown to control schizophrenia. I will not even make mention of evidence of advanced hygiene control to prevent stomach infections- I wont! I will only make mention of the more subtle bits of their medical excellence.

Surgery

R.W. Felkin, at the time (1879) a medical student and missionary recorded a caesarean operation carried out in Bunyoro. The details, published in the Edinburgh Medical Journal 1884 xxix , 922-930, are startling. The surgical team comprised 3men; the surgeon washed the mother's womb and his hands with banana wine (nguuli) and then water.The mother had been half intoxicated with the same wine and was laying on a bed. The surgeon made a cutting into the stomach and the baby was gotten out. The wound was sewn using iron spikes, sparingly used and tied together with skin. At various times the assistants helped with pulling out the baby, holding the intestines in place and holding her ankles and placing on the wound an absorbant grass mat. Needless to say, the patient made a full recovery after 11 days. Interestingly, at this time in the UK, caesarean operations, when they did occur, were extremely rare for theyb were considered major and there was considerable animosity towards them. Felkin went on to become the adviser to the Lancet on tropical medicine, and it wouldnt be unsafe to take his account as accurate. Some have expressed skepticism about his report on the operation but they have not expressed the same as regards the rest of his work, which is curious, considering that he translated many of the works of Emin Pasha, from German to English. In any case it would seem extraordinary that he could concoct such a story which would result in the praise a 'primitive' people and even take back with him the surgical knife, which has near celebrity status in the Wellcome Historical Medical Museum in the UK.

Inoculations/vaccinations

These were carried out in precolonial Bunyoro to protect babies and even adults from syphilis. The doctors, abafumu, argued that when the 'virus' was introduced to the infants' bodies, it reduced their chances of catching the disease in adulthood. Later research showed that exposure to the disease in infancy indeed significantly reduced ones chances of contracting the disease in later life. Clearly, the bafumu were ahead of their time. As is to be expected, they were condemned by the colonial administrators and missionaries as well as converts- the latter with an an amazing cry-more- than- the- bereaved enthusiasm. The importance of vaccinations needn't be emphasised in modern medicine.

Medical Research

It would be surprising for a people to attain such a high level of skill as result of a flash in the pan- there must surely be some form of order, organisation, training and apprenticeship to achieve this. If the above examples arent indicative of any form of preparation and organisation, perhaps this should. In 1902, when sleeping sickness was causing near tsunami-like death tolls to both coloniser and colonised in equal measure, information spread that there was an itinerant Munyoro doctor who was curing the disease. The man, Yangoma, told the colonial administrator- the tax collector for Busoga, who later told his boss, the commissioner, that following the sleeping sickness outbreak of 1886-7, he (Yangoma) was commisioned by Omukama Kabalega, to 'make experiments in the interests of science' -Grant's words to the commissioner on 30th May 1902 [PRO/FO/2/590], and he was 'successful in procuring a cure'. But in order to belittle whatever result the endeavour had produced, Grant made it known to the commissioner, in no uncertain that the instruction to look for a cure was 'more probably from selfish motives' of the Omukama! It ought to be noted that in their endeavours to cure disease, the bafumu separated their experiments from religious practice, so that this can be properly called scientific, and that the outcomes were results of repeated and tested displays.

Interestingly, there seems to be no evidence that this medical finesse was achieved as a result of exposure from the outside world, for much of the interior was cut off from Europe until the latter part of the 19th century, and that even then, the supposition that the Europeans who came could have passed on the knowledge is unreasonable, for Felkin himself was amazed and in any case it was the riches in Africa that caught the colonialists' fancy. Tragically, thanks to persecution from the invaders, much of this information, hitherto passed on from senior to junior in orderly fashion, was lost. At a time when many of our hospitals on one hand and death traps on the other have a conspicuously striking similarity, such loss ought to be bemoaned

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Lastly, the little I have found out about medical practice in precolonial Uganda is largely from Bunyoro, but I would like to convince myself that among other peoples in the country that is the pearl of Africa, there was certainly evidence of medical advancement. It may not, I would like to think, be a waste of time to dig into them.

by Mpuga Rukidi

Source: reunionblackfamily

Ezekiel 16:24 that you have built for yourselves a vaulted place, and have made yourselves a lofty place in every street.25 You have built your lofty place at the head of every way, and have made your beauty an abomination, and have opened your feet to everyone who passed by, and multiplied your prostitution.

the error of fornication with Christianity

A Reconstruction of Early Yoruba History - I hope this one is on point.

Try this site for the info u need

http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_links.asp


I've updated my essay on Yoruba history, and its much more detailed with references too.

Here's a version of Yoruba history that seems to provide links to some of the various accounts, though it is still a work-in-progress.

do you mean posting website links on Nairaland?

[url="xxxx"]Nairaland[/ url]

replace "xxxx" with the website html but remove the quotation marks and the space in [/ url].

I don't know if this is the info you want.

Come now, and let us reason. Obama or no Obama, the US government has engaged in violence and other acts of rebellion against Olodumare, and many people have been deceived by that nation into supporting and engaging in same. Considering the fact that there are so many christian denominations, doctrines etc, which lens can be used to see whether or not Obama is a Christian? Even those who worship Lucifer at Lucis Trust call on Christ.

What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander - the same metrics you used to conclude that I have been drumming up the beats of propaganda and conspiracy theories, when applied to yours cannot reveal otherwise. Many times the Son of Olodumare reasoned with His people, and such conversations were recorded in the Bible via the mouths of His prophets and directly in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, for our benefit. Remember also that He warned us that when some people say that people should go this way or that, 'Do not believe', that we should not let such people shove their beliefs down our throats. Hence, we should reason. Those who opposed Him could not counter and counter His Message but spitefully condemned Him; you have been doing likewise even though others have tried reasoning with you earlier.

Let the dead (people who reject reason) bury the dead (people who reject reason).

OLAADEGBU:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4cMB8ktCT8

Obama said that:

"I believe that there are many paths to the same place"

He also said that:

"All people of faith - Christians, Jews, Muslims, Animists - everyone knows the same God"

But what did our Lord Jesus Christ say? He said:

"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6).

Do you still think Obama is a Christian?

The descendants of Jacob never knew the Son of Olodumare by the title Christ as that is a Latin/Hellenist term originally applied to Zeus. Rather, His people and followers knew Him as "Imisi Iye" which has been erroneously transliterated as Messiah - the oyinbo in the Middle East and elsewhere have admitted that they don't know how the original language was spoken or properly translated refer to their current phony language as modern Hebrew. These oyinbo, after slaughtering the original peoples, replaced "Messiah" with Christ to achieve their plan of deception and leading people away, else they would have used "Messiah" throughout (John 1:41; 4:25). The Son said He came in the Name of Olodumare, which is "Iye"/"Ye", erroneously transliterated as "Yah" and "Jah", which can be seen in Imisi Iye (Messiah) but not "Christ". Thus, His people never referred to themselves as "Christians" and never knew Him as "Jesus".

Christians, Jews (synagogue of satan) and Muslims do not worship the Almighty but another.
Different peoples have their cultures and their own ways of groping for the Almighty (Acts 17:26-27), but such acts must be done in truth and in spirit as this is the only Way. So far, the activities of the oyinbo founders of Christianity, Islam and Judaism have been in rebellion against the Almighty. These religions have lies as their foundation as the founders divided Israel amongst themselves, engaged in identity theft, surrounded themselves with violence, raped and suppressed other peoples, enslaved West Africans, and engaged in stealing, killing and destruction, activities described in the Bible as those of the enemy/devil. While these people use their mouths to express faith in the Almighty they have consistently expressed and used fjavascript:void(0);[sub][/sub]aith in violence and bullying to intimidate and destroy; this applies to both republicans and democrats as well. Topics/Debates like this from the OP are tools used by the power brokers, to whom the devil has given the authority and glory of the kingdoms of this world (Luke 4:5-7), to distract and brainwash the masses/pawns and use them like drones fighting themselves. Whether Obama is a Christian or not is not important but whether each of us seeks the Almighty in truth (including the Name) and in spirit.

The Yoruba have a saying, "what is bad is bad."

The Traditional Yoruba Calendar (an event coming up on August 5); from the facebook page:
This class on the Yoruba Traditional Prayer Calendar is just one of many classes offered by Dr. Ifabukunmi O. Adewale at www.ileAtegbe.org. It gives you a more comprehensive understanding that goes beyond just knowing the specific ÒRÌŞÀ of the day. You will get a full explain on how to coordinate your daily life in accordance with the day -- What days are best to embark on new business ventures? What days are good to start rituals? What days should I avoid litigation?...and so on.

http://www.facebook.com/events/212714652188106/

http://www.adewuranatural.com/ileategbe/subscription.htm

PAGAN 9JA, more pictures please...

Heartorgasm?

PAGAN 9JA, Olodumare is NOT Zeus!

Rgp92, there was a time Jacob took an uncut/unworked/natural stone, used it as a pillow and slept. He dreamed of a chain extending from orun to aiye. When he awoke, he praised Eshu by setting up the stone as a pillar and pouring palm oil on it, a practice still done by Ifa devotees till this day.

@topic, various violent peoples (of the days of John) fought for the control of North Africa and parts of the Middle East from c. 600 AD, forcing the migrations of many Negro peoples southwards. Some of these violent peoples were the Byzantine, Khazars, Magyars, Serbs, Avars, Perhenegs, Seljuqs, Normans, Khwarezmians, Mamluks, Abbasids, Italans, Seleucids, amongst others. If our ancestors took the time and effort to transmit accounts of migrations from places further north-east of the Sudan, we should at least not speedily dismiss them like bastards while hastily accepting his-story (oyinbo-biased version of our story).

For instance, Nimrod was a son of Cush, a Negro, but his Empire extended far into Mesopotamia, quite an extensive portion of the Middle East. What happened to his people? Did they all suddenly turn oyinbo?Likewise the Philistines (known today as Palestine) descended from Mizraim/Egypt and had Negro features; clearly unlike the identity thieving, suicide-bombing insane people in today's Palestinians.

These Greco-Romans ([b]Hell[/b]enists) slaughtered our people, plagiarized the Bible and edited various portions of this Book like the deletion of the Names of Olorun and Oyigiyigi and insertion of Zeus (JeZeus/Jesus). How can the love of such a rebellious and [b]Hell[/b]ish/[b]Hell[/b]enist culture of a people who worship Olosi (Lucis) and have been raping and destroying Earth not be insane?