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hahn:
That was an insult and it was uncalled for.

It wasn't a joke.

It wasn't an insult and it was called for

And hell yea that was a dry joke

Modified!

The guy didn't live up to 111 years

hahn:
And you are so quick to insult him. You are a perfect reason why there is a mass exodus of people from the christian fold. Purely hypocritical and quick to judge.

If I see you in heaven, I'm going to start a protest

I didn't insult him. I only said what he is.

and your last line, pls try another joke

Ifeann:
An2elect2 I understand ur position and ur view but Frank is first a human before an atheist, as a human he has freewill to say what he wants. Its his right to say what ever he wants against theists. Like the OP, He made a point here, noise pollution by churches are also culprits. U also said so earlier meaning that u are NOT a bigot.

Really? Atheists have freewill? Well its true that i cant stop them from expressing themselves but as a theist i have the responsibility of calling them out and rebuking them. Yeeep. Why can't i do this too?

You want to know what God sees when He looks down on sinners? not their human nature but their sin nature. God does not respect any man's views/"rights". LOL. True!

Well i don't want to go into all that now.

Noise pollution is noise pollution, naff said.

frank317:
You are flying to hell and you are moving too slow for my likening

LOL bros you need to match the break. Just look, look what you doing to yourself. Its not fair now haan

Ifeann:
Hey frank317 and An2elect2. Noise pollution is noise pollution. Whether is from a church or a mosque or from a night club. The only responsible thing to do is to respect ur community and keep the loud speakers at a respectable level.

well there you have it. Noise pollution is noise pollution. I agree!

Just noticed how frank317 was quick to call out a "church" just the same way all atheists will do.

Restless beings (atheists)

frank317:
Lol... U are obviously going to hell.

no you are speeding to hell and i pray you slow down.

frank317:
What's all these?

He condemns the Islamic noise and I condemn the Christian noise... That means I an undying hatred of the Christian God?

You are nothing but a hypocrite. Your sins will soon find u

I wasn't wrong after all.

Such vituperation from a potsherd who lives in self delusion and denial.

Atheist, you have an inherent hatred for the true God. One only needs insight to see that.

Now, go jump into the next christian thread like a bulldog to do what you know how to do. Attack and curse while continuing on the path of self destruction.

Your sin will find you out.

Empiree:
Perfect definition of retreat and surrender

f.uck off my mentions

Rilwayne001:
I will like it if you can prove it to me here


Well, I am not obsessed with it. Malvisguy212, truthman2012, ifeann, this una wife said TRINITY IS NOT JUST FALSE, IT IS FALSE! FALSE!! FALSE!!! woWw



Well, Ifean, truthman2012, and malvidguy are all catholic, which automatically means that they are occultic.

But wait oo, are catholic going to hell?



Kindly outline it please.




blah blah blah
Do you want us to delve into it?

oh man, you only want to "prove me wrong". I can imagine how ready you are now to pounce on me. Those masculine fingers on your key pads lol You are trying me.... Now look, You are a viper!!! you remind me of some things that occurred many many years ago that shouldn't have been if those men feared God and for their souls.

Oh oh who are those you calling? LOL

No i don't want to delve into anything today. At least not on this thread.

truthman2012:
@ An2elect2

Don't follow Rilwayne to debate. He has been editing people's post to give it the opposite of want they mean. I will report him to the moderator. He is a fraudster.

LOL He can't edit the truth.

Rilwayne001:
Here is your first problem.

Is jesus God? Was he the one that inspired the OT? Why does he havecto come in humAN form? During his stay on earth, who was in tje heaven? Which sin exactly did he came to die for? Must one believe on him to have eternal life? how about those that came before him? do you believe in trinity? can you prove it with your bible? why aren't you a catholic adherent? and lastly, what gave the the asssurance that you will make it to heaven?

LOL why do i have to prove the deity of Jesus to you when is all over the bible? Why are you obsessed with the trinity doc. It is false false false and now you are bringing in the catholic cult. Well if you are going to judge me based on that, then i take a bow Monsieur

You want to know why i am assured? well its in the bible.

Rilwayne001:
The bible is not accurate with the inconsistency and contradictions in it, do you want ms to delve into that?

No folklores in my book.

the bible is the perfect definition of "accurate" Need i say it is unequivocally logical. You know the problem here, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

When a proud and egoistic man fuming with arrogance does not understand a thing he labels it INCONSISTENT and CONTRADICTORY.

Sad op. You should report to your community leaders/elders if there are any. I can't imagine staying in that kind of environment.

And to the poster above me, you are most likely an atheist right? am not justifying the use of loud speakers by some Nigerian churches in their neighbourhood, but your post reeks of an undying hatred for the Christian God. Your sin will find you out soon!

I don't care if some men chose to bear the name Jesus but am certain that there is only one saviour

Rilwayne001:
Can you please highlite the truth to me please?

That God/Jesus so loved the world that He had to put on human flesh to redeem the world from sin. And whoever believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life.

Can you compare the accurate and authentic revelations in the bible with the folklores in your book?

Call me bad belle for all i care but you cant fool God y'all nominal Christians. You can't fool God.

Rilwayne001:
Fixed

you can't run away from the truth. It will catch up with you soon.

[quote author=Rilwayne001 post=33067676][/quote]Islam is of the devil.

Look to the only one that saves JESUS.

That man mohammed really did a number on you.

I may not believe this story but two things are sure here and they are:

Jesus is the only one who saves.

AND

Islam is 100% false.

Please those carrying out these xenophobic/Afro phobic attacks are only a minority. Most south Africans are not in support of this barbaric act.

Enough of the hasty generalizations and insults. Haba

And now someone has come to call what every average African fears, which is that things may blow out of proportion if they are not rapidly curbed, a prophecy! hian! abeg let us hear word.

Creflo Dollar is only after your $$$

$$$? Dfk! That's the crook's surname!

simplex2:
"Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty."

Do you need a dictionary also?

Is a very handsome man a perfect being?

you just pick any verse where perfect is used and fling it here.

Pls quote one bible passage where a man or an angel is called a perfect being not one of their qualities described.

Simple.

cupid1:
when u spoke about the bolded words i thought you were going to offer unbiblical proof, instead all i get is insults, yeah that's the average christian for you. I don't have time for E-battles as i see that's what you were aiming to start. I'm more of a physical person, not excessive talking

be wise first, physical man

simplex2:
Ezek 28:14 - 15

Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire."
"[b]Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created[\b], till iniquity was found in thee."

at embolden. It didn't say Lucifer was created perfect, it says he had being doing things perfectly well, just the way God wanted them to be until INIQUITY WAS FOUND IN HIM. Iniquity CANNOT be found in a perfect being!

simplex2:
Lol...God created a perfect angel that sinned.

He created a perfect man...that sinned also.

Does God know the definition of perfect?

God created exactly what He wanted. He never termed angels or man as perfect beings but Himself and all He has done.

When God finished creation He looked at what He had done and saw that they were good. Good because He made them.

Man was good but not perfect and his fall proved that.

cupid1:
As much as i believe there is a God, that is no reason to condemn atheists. You say they have no proof for evolution, [ neither do you have any proof to show God exists. If you bring up the Bible as proof, an atheist can also bring up a spiderman comic book as proof that spiderman exists. So keep calm and wait for judgement day- if it be real

mcheeew. nonsense.

at embolden. You believe that God exists and you still said that.

I see you are trying to play safe. Atheism is the in thing now huh. And playing the sycophant will earn you "good boy" in their book

what do you call a man who speaks for fools

pls be wise.

aoyih:
I have been nurturing this thought for so long a time and wish to share it with you my NL family...

Let me start from here:

(1) Shebi God is the all knowing and all knowledgeable God?

(2) Shebi God in his might sees and knows the end from the beginning?

(3) Shebi it was written in the bible that before you were born, I knew you?

All this shows that our life's script has long been written even before we were fertilized in our mother's womb.
If this be the case, it thus mean that everybody's destiny has long been written and can only be reverted by he (God) alone.
If we are only acting the script that has been designed and written from above, why then are we been punished for doing perfectly well in our roles?

Judas was destined to betray Jesus which was a role he ought to play to make his script go in accordance to his destiny...if he obeyed and played the role as directed by God himself, why was he then punished?

Peter was destined to deny Jesus and it came to pass to fulfill his destiny here on earth...

If we are playing our individual roles as already written from above; whether good or bad, long as it goes in concordance with the will of God I don't see any reason why we should be punished by the same God who destined it to be so.

To end it all, I wish to know if it is fair to be punished by God for obeying and playing the role that he has already written for you as your destiny


Please, no insult... just meaningful comments!

men will be punished because sin started from man.
God cannot be said to be the initiator of sin since He cannot sin against himself.

So it is fair and very right for God to punish men!

Well did i suspect that you will disagree with me somehow? yes i did.

OLAADEGBU:
True depending on what you term as "works". Does repentance qualify as works in your vocabulary?

No it doesn't. Repentance is not a mere confession of our sins to God but a complete change of mind. Where one turns from himself unto God. In other words, taking sides with God against yourself, the world and the devil.

Repentance is a gift from God that accompanies regeneration. No man can change his mind or genuinely repent without divine intervention.

"Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may you also do good that are accustomed to do evil" Jeremiah 13:23.

If the Ethiopian can change his skin and the leopard his spots, then you can become good too. You can change from evil to good. That's what it says. And since they can't, you can't too.

OLAADEGBU:
Are you saying that a saved person is not able to walk out and decide to no longer continue in the faith?

To ask me this question, you have to ask what salvation is and how it comes about.
A man is dead spiritually, all his thoughts are evil, his flesh is in perpetual enmity with God. He is blind that he cant see his wretched condition and deaf that he cant hear the saviour's call when he beckons. He is completely turned against God and wouldn't care a second for his soul. Why? cos he is dead. Dead to the things of God. When God looks at this man's nature, all he sees is total rebellion. If God decides to save this man, will he ask him for little merit/good knowing he has none to offer? NO. God will save this man from himself and change his heart for that is the only way that he can be new. But will this man still have his old nature/ his body of sin/ flesh? YES Can this flesh stop being in enmity with God? NO Is it not this flesh that tells men to rebel against God? YES Who can subdue this flesh? The Spirit of God dwelling in this man. Is God not aware of this rebellious nature long before hand? YES Will God abandon a man who cannot save himself or contribute little to his salvation along the way all because of this evil nature which He (God) is fully aware of? NO When God saves, He saves to the end!

Salvation is God's work. It is the work of the saviour to save. Jonah 2:9

We come to accept God when God has accepted us. Not the other way round. John 1:12,13. vs 13 makes vs 12 come to pass.

OLAADEGBU:
There is a condition for us to be saved. True repentance and faith in the above finished work of Christ is what will procure us this salvation.

salvation is by grace through faith( which is a gift too) The scripture says it comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Rom 10:17

Who gives faith? God
Who gives repentance? Repentance unto life? The Almighty.
These things happen simultaneously with regeneration.
You don't produce faith by yourself or even repentance. It is God that gives so no man can boast before Him.

OLAADEGBU:
Depending on how you interpret Hebrews 6:4-6

It is not dependent on how i interpret it. It is how scripture interprets itself. Those verses do not say a genuinely saved person can be lost. You can still be a goat and still taste what sheep eat but you remain a goat and what will befall goats will not miss you.

nairaman66:
Women are generally expensive!

why shouldn't we be

OLAADEGBU:
What they are saying is that the finished work of Christ on the Cross in not enough for them, they feel that they need to complete the job since it is not finished.

Exactly,but...

sad. The "another gospel which is no gospel at all" has taken over Christendom. This grace plus works/merit has never, and will never save any man. It is either we are saved by God's sovereign grace or we are not.

The false gospel of grace plus works only gives men a sense of control of their own salvation, and as a result, they believe they can lose the salvation or decide to walk out on God. Nothing can be farther from the truth.

The crux of almost all heresies is the denial or rejection of the truth that salvation was earned through the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus once and for all. For ever.

Believe that to be saved one must work, then you will believe you can throw away what you've worked for(salvation) and then other heresies upon heresies and then you must come to the conclusion that whether by word or by heart that Christ's death for "us" was not once and for all. And therefore, it is either he comes down to be sacrificed again and again like those bulls and calves of old or you meet God's perfect standards by yourself.

Koldplay:
I can't thank you enough, can I? Am wow by your use of tense and writing skill, its been ages I came across such feminine wisdom.

I can't thank you enough, can I? Am wow by your use of tense and writing skill, its been ages I came across such feminine wisdom. Cheers and warm regards.

cheers to you too.

Don't forget to test them all. Take care.

OP, AMEN!!!! TO THIS!!! JESUS IS GOD HIMSELF IN BODILY FORM. AMEN!!!

God made himself a part of "us" through Jesus!!!