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[quote author=Wily+Wily link=topic=494342.msg6557222#msg6557222 date=1281556362]Dirty Yorubas on the Mountain, Run- Run- Run
The Dirties People on Earth, Run- Run -Run[/quote]Willy, your vibrations are 2 mush. Only you can smoke without fire.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=495130.msg6556454#msg6556454 date=1281547957]why are you surprised when your signature have said it all. . . .[/quote]you were meant to be under ban . What is happening here?.

Ogwu azu---JT.

@physicsQED: Benin founders of Ontsha is laughable. The Benin expansion and campaigns eastwards were a matter of some demographic consequence for the Igbo, the Onitsha whom you claim left Benin were just elements of Igbo population thrown back eastwards by Benin expansion.
Even as am chatting here, a tradition has recently come to light that Chima, the legendary ancestor of the Onitsha people , whom some people believed to have been a Binin refugee, was an Aro oracle agent and slave dealer. Chima is  a name encountered mostly among the Aro. Go and figure.

ezeagu:
I think it's all of them except Onicha, and possibly places like Nnewi town.

Agreed, but the coming of whitemen aided the rapid urbanisation of Onitsha (Onicha). As for Nnewi, it is not certain that Nnewi was an urban centre prior to the arrival of the British.

paris10:
Just finished doing my research, The Hausa's dominate the political scenery (Abuja as their power seat) but lack world wide acceptance because of the violence associated with them. Majority of the other African states where Hausa is being spoken are Muslim speaking countries. Go to developed world, the first Nigerian or african language recognised by these people is the Yoruba language.

See I really don't care about where anyone of you comes from, just making a point. Even in United States where we have a large number of the Igbo people, Yoruba language is still well spoken and heard. Travel to the Uk, same thing, Canada, Australia, and most of the well organised countries, except ofcourse countries like Germany, India, China where the Igbos tend to find refuge (I heard its because of their dodgy business.)

What a stupendous post so full of crap. Apart from the U.K, there is no other country in this planet earth that has more Yorubas than Igbo. Even in Nigeria, all the towns and cities outside Yorubaland has more Igbo people than the Yorubas.
@ Paris, I really admire your ignorance here.

Those centres which, apart from being government headquaters, were also important economically outstripped many of their counterparts. This was so in the case of Aba and Umuahia which also had the advantages of lying on the railway and of Onitsha which was strategically located on the Niger-an ancient commercial highway. But not all the urban centres in Igboland started as government stations. In fact the two most important-Port Harcourt and Enugu-were at first of no consequence from the administrative point of view.

After the educational revolutio in Igboland, the next in importance for Ndigbo was the urban revolution. Until the coming of British rule most of the peoples in Igboland lived in rural communities, unlike the Yoruba to the West and the Hausa to the North. But under the impact of British rule urban centres developed amongst the Igbo. Most of these centres started as administrative headquarters, that is they were first centres where the District Oficers and their staff of clerks, interpreters, policemen, messengers, prison warders and so on lived. Being nearly always all strangers, these men had to depend on the sorrounding rural population for their livelihood. They also made use of rural labour to build quarters and maintain their surroundings. Coming and going developed between the rural villages and the administrative centres as people came to sell to the strangers or to answer the calls of the political officer or to attend court. As time went on, a few of the local people came to settle close to the government stations to be better able to exploit the economic opportunities they offered.

asha 80:
Hmmm ok.That was what i wanted to see.

Though i hate to say this i think the coming of the whiteman brought about the emergence of towns and cities in igboland.

YOU ARE RIGHT.

ChinenyeN:
Such an understand can actually be justified through traditional ideology.

As for clothing, I know that in the past, Akwete was well known for its weaving and textile. They specialized in weaving cloth, what that translated to, in terms of indigenous, precolonial clothing, I'm not sure. Although, I do remember coming across a word that was used when referring to pants that adults wore (precolonially, I assume, because from what I was told, the word is considered ancient). I can't recall the word exactly, though. So, I guess I'll have to ask about that.

Who knows how many twins that would have been wasted before such an understanding could be justified through traditional ideology. Putting a stoppage to killing of twins is one of the finest things the Whiteman did in Igboland.

Osisioma---my son's name. Tree of life (good tree). A good tree that provides shelter to people, fruit, beauty and ecomomic help to a people.

mikeansy:
Creation of more states in any fashion is of no use to anyone.

But it is of use to some people to have seven states, some has six, and another has only five.

Ndigbo in Delta state deserve a state. Whether it is zoned to the east or not, Anioma state is over due for creation.

Awolowo might have played tribal politics but the truth is that Lord Lugard introduced tribalism in Nigeria. Lord Lugard did not want the Ndigbo and other southerners to inter-relate, so he built separate quarters for southerners in the north (Sabon-gari). He even encourage the northerners to attend Arabic and Islamic schools so as not to mix up with the southerners through education.

The wide gap between the north and south in the education sector can be attributed to Lord Fredrick Lugard. Lord Lugard did not encourage the missioneries to penetrate the north. The churches offered western education , a highly attractive bait which which northern indigenous religion nor Islam could not offer. Since Ndigbo and other peoples of the South were anxious to acquire the whiteman's wisdom  and knew this could only be done through going to school, they in time sent flocks of their children to the schools. But the churches had planned so well that the church and the school had become virtually synonymous.

Had the churches offered only the alternative of the cross and salvation, they might not have been such a disruptive force. But they offered Western education in addition, a highly attractive bait which indigenous religion could not offer. Since Ndigbo were anxious to acquire the whiteman's irresistible magic and knew this could only be done through going to school, they in time sent flocks of their children to the schools. But the churches had planned so well that the church and school had become virtually synonymous. At times, the same building served two purposes. Our Igbo people started cautiously at first by sending their slaves and distrusted children to school and church, just as they had acted cautiously in the sphere of politics by sending similar people forward as their chiefs. But it did not take time before this caution was discovered to be foolishness as political, economic , religious and social life came to be dominated by these former undesirables who had acquired the whiteman's magic first.

@Ezeagu: Nice photographs from you. Though Ndigbo were the largest users of Western styled clothes, yet traces of Igbo old ways of dressing remains. It is an established fact that Igbo traditional dressings was not wiped away by the coming of the whitemen but slight alterations.
That nothwithstanding, the coming of the whitemen to Igboland with their government and the traders came the missions. The missionaries challenged indigenous society much more radically than either the government or the traders did. They not only shook the faith in the traditional Gods who had provided the ultimate saction for indigenous society and morality, they also insisted that the Igbo could not actually become good christians or attain salvationunless they modified their societies drastically along prescribed western lines. Ndigbo in quest of salvation were to embrace monogamy, WELCOME THE BIRTH OF TWINS WITH JOY, allow many indigenous practices and ceremonials to fall into desuetude and so on.

Last time Peters fought the Klitschko's, he was thought boxing lessons. From the first round, he was so poor that he has to give up on the 7th round. Since then, he has lost another top fight. The guy is a disgrace to Nigeria. His punches doesn't hurt, fat all over the place and anticipation is as good as zero.
Peters, quit now before someone is jailed for murder in a ring.

The egalitarian nature of Ndigbo gave the imperialist headaches and nightmares.  Ndigbo resisted them until independence was achieved in Nigeria. King Jaja of Opobo, Onyeama of Enugu, Aba/Umuahia women revolution in 1929, Ekumeku wars with the British, Aro wars,Edda, Obowu, Owerri, Iva valley etc. All because Ndigbo believe in equality.

@sean or what ever your silly name is, you are a no brainner at all. This thread is about Okpara, hence do not derail and quit putting your hand in your finger.

That Igbo candidate is no other than Pat Utomi.
Nzeribe: Nigerians have not forgiven him and his ABN for the impasse in Nigeria in 1992/3.
Soludo, no way near it.
Anyaoku, Ekwueme-two old to run.
Ngozi Iweala-Good.

Pat Utomi is the best South-South and Ndigbo can put forward. He is the best in Nigeria now.

mukina2:
both of you are as culpable as he is.

You are wrong. I have never insulted ethnic groups. Brooklyn's post is full of insults of Ndigbo as an ethnic group. I don't mind him insulting me as he has always done, but he should not insult Ndigbo as a race.
The quest to bring sanity to nairaland will still be eluded unless he is checkmated bumper to bumper.

Ogologo ndu na ahu isike--Long life and good health.

There is no candidate better equipped to lead Nigeria than P. Utomi.
Nigerians, Utomi is your candidate.

It is a no joke nor fun when someone continues to insult an ethnic group. That is not allowed, should not be allowed and never will be allowed. The sanity nairaland craves will be maintained when such posts are not published or such posters are banned till the day Christ will come again.

Two years is cool. Just my personal opinion. Most corp members do not get employed for one year after passing out from service. Instead of being jobless for one year, they should still be in service. The allowance has now been increased even.

As part of new economic measures, the government built motor roads linking all the administrative centres. To this end itissued the Roads and Rivers proclamation in 1903 enabling chiefs to recruit labour for this purpose as when requested by authorities. These roads quickly became the arteries of commerce and new ideas. The people who were recruited to work on them returned to their villages with strange ideas in their heads and also with resentment in their hearts against the local chiefs who had recruited them.