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Bombblacks:
Nigga I was mocking your thickness. City and Chelsea are not self sufficient in any way or form. When their owners leave with their injection of revenue, inflected sponsorships deals and finance both teams will crumble badly. Don't even compare City and Chelsea owners to United and Liverpool owners.

"mocking" and "thickness" this early in the conversation? Do you know Manchester City averages more attendance per game than Liverpool? Do you know that they have a big deal with Puma? Do you know they have won 3 of the last EPL titles and get the top money for TV deals? Do you know they got to a UCL final and got a lot of money for coming close? Do you know they have a big deal with Etihad? Oh, it does not help with your narrative. So it does not count.

Jodera:
Okayy, maybe I did. I watched him on three different occasions and I know I wasn't impressed with his game. He was just there not spectacular for me

Cancelo was not even that great in his first season with Manchester City. I wonder why people just want to downplay City. Gundogan and Bernardo Silva cost less than Oxlade and Naby Keita but people let Klopp off on those 2 and keep bringing up the former 2 for City as if City bought them for 200M.

Jodera:
I never liked Rodri at athletico to be honest. Maybe it was just me but he never really impressed me.

Jesus was rated quite alright but I'm not sure any top team in Europe would have draft him straight into the first team like the way pep did when he was ousting aguero. Even till now, I wouldn't want him as my striker. I don't know about you sha

Forget all those Rodri was rated bla bla. Rodri was not more rated than Jorginho or Fred. Rodri was even plan C option after City could not get their plan A which was Jorginho and plan B which was FDJ.

andrewbaba44:
He made the team of the year with both juve and inter

I never even knew that. Thought he was onloan at Inter even though Juventus signed him.

iamoyindamola:
All these are stories
VAR will give some and leave others
Those stupid refs decide which one is legit or not

I am not defending EPL refs. Just telling you what I have observed over time. Today it favored City but it is not always the case. Rather than be angry with the ref why not blame Gabriel and Martinelli?

Ibime:
Aburo, you sef know say their revenue generation from Emirates airline na wash. UEFA catch them korokoro but courts let them off with a slapped wrist

Anyway, the self-sufficiency talks is a red herring. Net spend is the koko

You are a mathematician. I won't do netspend with you because it is a disingenuous factor. I agree that revenue generation na wash but baba na wash for everybody including Bayern Munich. Did you see how Adidas gave them 900M euros yet the Adidas CEO is also a member of the Bayern board etc etc. Even Juventus, have they not recently caught them with the shenanigans involving their finances? Me and you know if we shake United, a lot of fake revenue will show up. Just like Barcelona and Real Madrid.

I personally get bored with all these Guardiola arguments.

andrewbaba44:
Did you watch Cancelo at juventus or you are just speaking with dem say dem say ?

Same Cancelo that made the seria A team of the year while we juve

He made team of the year with Inter not with Juventus.

Bombblacks:
This is a joke, right?

You know most of you don't research stuff before typing. No, it is not a joke.

iamoyindamola:
Lmao
You just wake up

Did I not tell you that if the Keeper deflects the ball or makes contact with it even if he touched the player VAR won't overturn it?

Bombblacks:
How does complying with FFP make City self sufficient?

They have to spend what they generate and they have been doing so. The owners reinvested their revenue. That is why I said why is it City's fault if their owners care about their club rather than FSG or the Glazers who only care about profiteering?

FBS:
City got really really lucky against Arsenal plus the ref didn't help matters.

Nothing really special for this city team.

We just need to beat Liverpool and get our mojo back.

Copium.

Leyqute:
Seems like you’re selectively ignoring facts.

The fact that city started rebuilding from 200-whatever doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t catch up with United, especially if United didn’t reinforce themselves.

And that’s exactly what happened.

Up to the years city won their first title, they were outspending United.

Soon enough they wrestled the title away from United- with new signing Aguero.

Two years later they won the league again.

Are they still building at this point?

Yet, their spending said otherwise.

United has spent 1.1 billion pounds since their last EPL title. What is your point?

Bombblacks:
Am just trying to correct you. Liverpool and United are spending the money they make. Their owners are not injecting their personal cash into those clubs unlike Chelsea and City. Liverpool and United are self sufficient and run on their club generated profits unlike City and Chelsea that will crumble without their sugar daddies.

LOL. Who told you City have not been self-sufficient for the last 5 years at the very least? You do know there is FFP that everyone has to comply with or will you just keep making unsubstantiated arguments?

Leyqute:
Good.

Now tell me when City got to that top level Man Utd was and how much they’ve spent since then in comparison with the Utd.

Since 2013-14 United have spent over or circa 1.1 Billion pounds. City figure is about the same.

Leyqute:
Loads and loads of cash.

They’ll probably have to change managers a couple of times too.

United started “rebuilding” their title winning squad since 2012 when it all crashed.

City, on the other hand, have been building since the days of Robinho.

What are you talking about ?

That is my point. City are a smaller club than United and needed alot to catch up from 2008 when United were winning the league almost every season.

Bombblacks:
Fsg and glazers are not spending or injecting their personal money into their clubs unlike Chelsea and City owners. By the way Fsg is not worth 100billion.

I was giving an estimate of the billionaires within FSG that total close to that. Meanwhile, City have not spent any money that United, Chelsea and co have not proven they cannot spend. You cannot lampoon the City owners for running their club very well.

Leyqute:
How much did each team spend on their squad before they won the league? (2011-2014) How many top players did they sign?

How many ageing players needed to be replaced?

Who needed to rebuild more?

Then calculate how much had they spent and how many top players they’ve bought by 2017.

May God be with you.

How much will Newcastle need to spend to be on the level of the top 6 teams in England? Between United and City which team was older in 2016/17? I have used 2 posers to answer all your questions. Thanks and God bless you real good.

thorrvik55:
That was not a corner kick, Mahrez cut in and crossed the ball to Jesus.. How was that a "grab and throw"..

According to u, the Bernardo penalty (which included an obvious dive from Bernardo) was a clear and obvious error from the onfield ref while the Ederson tackle where he clearly got the man, there was no error, right?

I am not sure you understand me. City played a corner kick or so, Partey held and pulled Gabriel Jesus to the ground. It was never discussed. Shouldn't that be a penalty? B.Silva embellished his fall but Xhaka set his leg out and pulled his shirt. Did he or did he not? Ederson was not a clear and obvious error. Ederson got the ball no arguments. He also got the player. So the ref has to decide if he will give a penalty even after Ederson got the ball. Meanwhile, another camera angle even showed that Odegaard was the one who stepped on Ederson. See the link here:

No penalty these c u n t s said

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popizaino:
All this long talk to prove what again ?

FSG with owners worth totalling 100 billion dollars. Glazers with their billionaires. Chelsea with their billionaire but Manchester City have owners with a bottomless pocket (worth 30 billion dollars).

Leyqute:
Care to explain your incoherent thought?

It is not incoherent. Manchester United won the league 2012-13 then Manchester City won it 2013-14. But some how one team was great and did not need to be improved upon by 2017 but United was bad and needed to be improved upon.

MorataFC:
I beg to disagree, man city has not won the league and will not win this one, anyone who disagrees should mark this post.

I have bookmarked this.

thorrvik55:
Getting "some" of the player is now allowed, right?

It does not mean the penalty is stonewall. Or else, Thomas Partey grabs and throws Gabriel Jesus to the ground in the corner kick late in the first half. That is a penalty too right?

Manchester City won the league 2013-14 but in 2016-17 they had a team but United that won a league 2012-2013 had to be signing because they did not have a team. That is it for ludicrous

iamoyindamola:
Why was the clip not shown
They have always show every var decisions

When they start showing it on TV, just know they have already told the referee in his ear to come back to look at it.

pkasso:
Another clutch moment from Rodri. An injury-time winner today to add to that game-saving block at Anfield against Liverpool and not forgetting a potential goal of the season vs Everton. That man has been the best DM in the PL this season by a mile. It might have taken him a while to adapt but now that he's got going, some of y'all might need to start tendering your apologies A proper holding midfielder that sets his team playing on the front foot whilst not neglecting his defensive duties, unlike that fake Brazilian penalty merchant masquerading as a controller. I no mention anybody name oh

Godri. Someone had to say it.

iamoyindamola:
False
Var have the right to call the ref to check an indicence they ain't sure about
Moreover var always show clips of every decision, why was ódegaard own not shown
Like I said not everything is worth arguing about

You are making an emotional argument. They don't randomly call a ref back. They call a ref back when the decision he has made on the field compared to what they have seen in reviews is clearly erroneous. The ref felt the Odegaard issue was not a penalty. Then VAR reviewed it and saw that even though Ederson made contact with the player, he also got the ball. They only call the ref back if his decision was a CLEAR and OBVIOUS error. In this case, it was not. Next.

iamoyindamola:
Yet var can't tell the ref to check the first half incidence himself
Abegi

They checked it and saw that Ederson got all the ball and some of the player. If he did not touch the ball, they would have called the ref back to check it again.

thorrvik55:
Let's start with the tackle on Odegard, why was the onfield ref not asked to go to the pitch side monitor and review it?

VAR checked it and did not see any clear and obvious error to overturn the onfield decision. That is because Ederson got some of the player but all of the ball. Do you agree?

iamoyindamola:
What's this one saying
But the ref continue play for Bernardo ok until var called him to recheck
It's not everything Una must argue about abeg

If you make your point by being rude it is proof you know you have no point. Did the ref not ignore B.Silva till VAR called him back? Do you think VAR did not check Ederson and Odegaard?

raumdeuter:
Can you imagine talk? Man utd fan complaining about spending when they have outspent City

Only Liverpool and Arsenal can complain about spending

FSG are richer than the owners of Manchester City. City have 18 outfield players (Benjamin Mendy is even in prison). Both Chelsea and Liverpool have more outfield players and with rich and competent owners. Rodri, KDB, Grealish, Foden, Stones, Gundogan, Laporte, Walker have been injured/had COVID-19 or could not play for games this season. Manchester City have played without a striker all season. I am struggling to understand some arguments here.

AnfieldFan:
Pep will revert back to four at the back even with the ball during the second half, some tactics just don't work out well...
Leaving Cancelo in midfield with the ball isn't working because Arsenal transitions so fast once they break...It's been a nightmare that left side...Ake isn't fairing much better with Saka... Partey don turn rock of Gilbraltar..
Defense standing firm...

City's issue in the game was Jesus and fatigue.