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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:01am On Jun 29, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Sterling is better than dembele for sure ,but dembele is better than your useless wingers .

Sterling is better than anything you have been parading as a winger for years

You cannot be hyping useless players at manure and disrespecting sterling .
Sterling is who ManU hope Sancho will be. That is literally who they thought they were getting. The Glazers were told Sancho will produce Sterling numbers which is why they gave the go ahead on getting him from Dortmund.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:58am On Jun 29, 2022
Joezinho:
Android, no disrespect to sterling but he has 3 strengths -- pace and movement and falling over in the box..

But he's still better than dembele Sha.
Every player has flaws.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:57am On Jun 29, 2022
airmark:
His stupidity in front of goal is available for Fraudiola, he should keep him. Tuchel is even mad for considering him. Anybody suggesting Sterling for us, should be stoned on his head like this one below.
He is better than foolishic. Let's get that out of the way.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:29am On Jun 29, 2022
andrewbaba44:
I am not a mancity fan ,and besides sterling will improve Chelsea or any other epl big boys ,so he isn’t a bad player ,sterling stats is there to speak for him ,it’s your scamcho that’s the real hype and overrated ,you can’t be calling a proven epl player overrated

As for dembele man is good ,but he is an idiot ,man is earning 10.9 million euros per season for years always injured ,club always stand by him ,suddenly Warey turned assist king at Laliga and was asking for about 20 million par year and 45 million sign on bonus since he is about becoming a free agent ,I wonder who Dey advice am .

Barca tabled 7.5 plus 1.5 million in bonus December man rejected it that’s too small ,dude was feeling like Messi ,he has the confidence that other club will pay him better ,now offer reduced to 6.5 million euros he will surely reject it and move on ,Chelsea signing raphinha has given him a big L

Dembele is better than those ekuke you parade ar manure sha cheesy
Yea Dumbouz is being misadvised by his agent and Chelsea signing Raphinha is the ultimate eff you to him. Man will sign for Newcastle last last or maybe Maga United will pay to act like they have their business doing well.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:18am On Jun 29, 2022
Joezinho:
This andrewbaba44 is a good salesman. grin

He's eager for his clubs to offload their dead players like dembele and Sterling.

Sterling is just another hyped overrated player by the English media. His finishing is poor and he is in most cases indecisive in the final third.

Chelsea should runnfar from deals like this..
Nah, I gotta defend my man Sterling. He is certainly not overhyped. No matter how many chances he misses, how do you explain away his numbers? What about his availability? How many times have you read that Raheem got hurt and missed games? IMHO, the greatest ability is availability and Raheem has that. This is coming from me who pulled my eyes out due to some of his misses. But the kid is consistent and he will produce numbers.

If Chelsea can get the CB they want and perhaps another midfielder who can transition from defense to offense like Rice, they'll compete with City to the very end without injuries.
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17:
Do you guys remember that Steph boarded a jet from Japan to try to pitch KD on re-signing with the warriors. KD knew Steph was flying. Yet he went on Twitter or Instagram to announce he was leaving without talking to Steph. Yet Steph manned up, called him and wished him the best.

Even though I will take a step back from basketball this coming season, I'll spend time praying KD never wins a ring in the Nets.

Snake Snake Snake. Does not matter what Draymond Green says.
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 5:26am On Jun 29, 2022
birdman:
Thank God. I refused to believe Lebron would be ok playing with this guy again - once a snake, always a snake. Most of the noise was probably the front office, they will always entertain trades no matter how ridiculous
Lebron wanted him but Kyrie slied the Lakers by using them to get his contract from the Nets. Similar to how Kawhi flattered and then went to the Clippers. I don't think it favors the Nets though. 3 cursed players on one team gotta have repercussions. lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 2:27am On Jun 29, 2022
andrewbaba44:
How is ake a problem ?

Dude is better than what your currently have at CB
Aké is not going anywhere. He said he wants to fight for first team football and City don't even want to sell. He is a very good player and contrary to some wrong information he was injured which is why Pep was forced to play Fernandinho and Laporte. Laporte himself was even playing with injuries and had to be injected before the last 4 games of the season. Same with Ederson.

SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 6:54pm On Jun 27, 2022
Skrrrrrrr:
Truth is, we were never really optimistic about our chances. We were quite mediocre in the playoffs. Steph was not himself. He was hesitant about shooting. I think he was struggling with his confidence having just returned from an injury. He started to pick up in the western conference finals against Dallas, and returned to full form against Boston.
We were all doubtful at some point. Curry took his game to another level against Boston else we'd have been swept. That Team that lost by 40 against Memphis, wouldn't have lasted 5 games against the Celtics...
Yea, I even agreed with you at the time.
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 6:53pm On Jun 27, 2022
Benji93, Hardetayour, Skrrrrrrr, I made this post after that one and before the game 6.
Android22:
I knew I was angry the other day but that does not mean I would trade Steph, Draymond or Klay in that order. I was only angry because those vets knew exactly what to do to get that W at Memphis but they decided against it. What did they need to do? Play smarter and with energy. Box out during rebounds, be ultra aggressive when defending, fight for the loose ball, protect the ball well when passing, take less contested shots and pretty much just be gritty. They just could not get themselves mentally to do it because they knew they still had a chance to do so at the Chase center which is why they collapsed.

Memphis is not 39 points let alone 50 points better than GSW on their best day. So when you see a scoreline like that without their best player, it is just down to effort. We all saw Timberwolves win 4 games in their series against Memphis without proceeding to the next round because they too were naive. Are you going to tell me Minnesota are better than this current Warriors? Not at all.

Sure, Memphis have height advantage over GSW but this last loss was the only game they outrebounded GSW in the whole series. That shows what I have been saying: lack of effort.

Draymond said they got so used to guarding Memphis a certain way because of Ja and that readjusting to the new way Jenkins has them playing is like starting a new series. In part, I believe him. But this Memphis team has no one initiating their offense and they are not that great a shooting team to have done that much damage to GSW. So now that we have all had a few days to bi nu and Kpa ri wo, we will give them the business and get set for the WCF.

Meanwhile, I don't fear either the Suns or the Mavericks. My argument has always been in comparison to the Bucks and Celtics because that is the true ECF being played. I do prefer to play the Bucks though, because Jrue Holiday is competing with Mrs Curry as who is actually Steph's beech. Giannis can have 45 per game and still catch that L with their lengthy players who are not that great at guarding the perimeter. But you see the Celtics, if they can get a player that is better at game management than Smart and Tatum, the series would have been over. Forget Giannis' heroics, the Celtics are better than the Bucks. E too clear.
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 9:42pm On Jun 26, 2022
Hardetayour:
Whew!
Mehn, the day we lost by 40 to Grizzlies without Ja Morant. I bin just dey vex. I later took it back. Hehe
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 7:17pm On Jun 26, 2022
nairamaniac:
My statement counters what you once said that pops system was built around Duncan.
Not *what should he do or he shouldn't do*.

We can't both start from an argument and both get lured into what should be done or not done.
Neither of us has an influence on pop.
Your penchant for typing for the sake of it is your undoing. Your argument is pretty much a very good player could have played for the Spurs with Pop as coach with the same results. That is your point incase you don't know. So you tried to bring in Kyrie playing for Kerr which is why we asked you to show us Pop doing same with someone not called Duncan. Telling us that Duncan was not always the main scheme is like saying Iggy winning FMVP in 2015 proved that Curry was not the main scheme for Kerr. That is just nonsense.

Kerr himself said when he is done coaching he will turn around and thank Steph. If you know what that means, then you know what that means.
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 7:11pm On Jun 26, 2022
nairamaniac:
Please bruv.
Are we now diverting from physical attributes and skillset comparisons to MORAL COMPARISONS? Do you have data, facts or eyes tests such as a list of the NAMES OF NOISEMAKERS drafted by captains of the teams the players in question we are talking about here? grin

Take it easyyyyy. grin grin grin

Alll those players are unique in their own ways

Some are even more unique to the rest than curry is to them all.

Don't let this era of social media hypes deceive us.


We all wanted to spend longer time in the air becos of jordan.

We all did in the 80's and 90's.

Just imagine if Jordan did all that I'm this era of tictok, YouTube and Whatsapp?

So you think without the hype, curry gave us the wow-factor more than Jordan?

God!!!!

Jordan and Michael Jackson are theost amazing things that have ever happened in the history of any television with respect to their eras.

I would have said lebron being more unique than curry, but people can hardly be lebron without the height, strength and physic.

Easier to try to be curry than prime-Lebron.

Let's don't get things twisted here.
Please stop typing for the sake of it. Being selfless, humble and coachable is in relation to basketball not his person life.

If you could not see the connection, ignore the post or ask for clarity so you would save yourself the post you have above.

Michael Jordan is not unique in the way he played the game. We all saw aspects of his game from Dr J, Oscar etc. Jordan just incorporated what they did and elevated it. He is not the best mid range shooter, the best dunker, the most athletic, the quickest- nothing. There is no single attribute that MJ is the record for. He just used all he had at his disposal in the best way possible. His mentality was the greatest.

Steph Curry is single handedly the most unique NBA player in history. Of course, we already saw great small guards like Isiah and AI, but their skill set was better suited for smaller players. They were quick and could dribble. Kyrie and CP3 are more in that mold even though to different degrees.

There is absolutely no NBA player who made it big that was like Steph. None. Not even Mahmoud Abdul Rauf or whatever his original name was. It is not just because Curry shoots the ball better but that he being the main driver of the offense constantly gives up the ball, setting picks and ditching them to get others free for their own shots or for his. Not one single NBA player who was the key to an offense played that way. Not one. That is due to Curry's humility and selflessness. He let KD come in and then did those things only for blind wackanalysts to think the iso player was better. He never was.

KD leading the offense without Curry was heroball and struggles. It is the reason after 2016-17 the KD- Warriors never looked quite as good. KD stopped playing within the system. Draymond even called him out. He has now gone to head another offense and we are seeing the OKC version of KD again. Very very skilled scorer and player but his game does not translate to winning big.

Dead all your narratives and rhetoric. Nobody said Curry is better than Jordan or even Lebron. Those players just figured out how to play the game the way it was always played and were the best at it. Curry did not hack the game that way. He paved his own way. He is an outlier. You cannot coach Jordan on his best day to shoot like Curry or run around distorting defenses for teammates to get easy buckets. That was never Jordan and could never be Jordan. Jordan's mentality was different.

Jordan will only pass when he has no option. He cared about winning enough to do that. But Jordan would never subject himself to scoring just 16 as long as the team wins. Never ever ever. Jordan was not selfless like that. We all watched his OWN docuseries.

A notable mention for unique players is Shaq however he was 7'1. Magic Johnson was unique as well for a 6'9 guard but nobody started recruiting 6'9 guards because of Magic and some of his notable performances were not even as a guard. We all have access to old NBA games and whatnot so spare us the lecture series. #NightNight
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 6:10pm On Jun 26, 2022
nairamaniac:
If they never won without Duncan, does that mean the offence went thru Duncan all his time there?

First ir was the twin-towers(Duncan and David Robinson)

Then it became around Duncan.

Later it was parkers team(offensively).
So Pop should make someone else the offense and win again, abi?
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 5:40pm On Jun 26, 2022
nairamaniac:
Every dynasty has an end.

t later became ginobli and lastly, parker's team.
Duncan was more involved in the defending and rebounding side of things during parker's time.
Parker ran the show around Duncan for couple of consecutive seasons.
Which title did they win without Duncan?
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 5:39pm On Jun 26, 2022
lol

SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 5:38pm On Jun 26, 2022
nairamaniac:
None of these players are identical to themselves.

Meaning each one of these to the rest are as unique as curry is to all of them mentioned here.

Is it's nothing special to say none of these players would be like curry.

Also you can't call people silly cause they had a pov over something.

That said; when kyrie and curry met head to head in Kyries Cleveland years, was onviois he had some skillset to be the go to scoring point guard.


Under Kerr, i first got amazed with the Golden state teamwork and buildup before being amazed by curry.

We all have our individual history and past relationships with the game.
Many of those players are not unique. They are all skilled at the way basketball was always played and in their time, the best there was. Curry is completely different. He is more coachable, humble and selfless. I am not saying he is better than those players but that they cannot do for the warriors what Steph does.

And yes some opinions can be silly. An opinion not backed by any data, facts or eye test is simply a silly opinion. I never said Kyrie is not good for e.g but that at no point had he shown he had a higher ceiling than Curry - no point. Curry just gets disrespected alot which is why some of those opinions festered.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:32pm On Jun 26, 2022
hensben:
Sterling is good, I like his astute and aggressive play with the ball, he is ruthless and disturbing to opponent’s defense. The fact that pep is letting him go doesn’t mean he is not good, I mean pep has let go of players like Eto, Yaya, Ibra, in the past. He has abundance of quality attackers in his hands so letting go of some is normal, he is enjoying luxury. It will be a shame if he doesn’t win ucl with a city.
City are not letting him go but Guardiola will never keep a player that wants to leave. Hence, Sané, Ferran, Jesus and Sterling. Bernardo Silva could have left last season too but no suitors met City's asking price.
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 4:25pm On Jun 26, 2022
nairamaniac:
Replace that curry with 2015/16 -kyrie as at that 2015/16

Or 2014-17 harden, they would have been the current Klay(plus) klay² after few years.
The system means a whole lot.
My humble bold opinion.

I'm not a golden state fan

But Kerr's system has been out of this world.


Pop did similar, but never really did it from one season to another over so many years.
Tim Duncan was Pop's system. It is no surprise that Pop has won basically nothing since Duncan retired.
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 4:24pm On Jun 26, 2022
nairamaniac:
Every coach and every philosophy is inclined to a particular KIND OF PLAYER, KIND OF ROLE, KIND OF TEAM GAME PLAY.

Creative and skillful Midfielders would always thrive better than outright strikers under Pep's system.

Pure shooters, good shooters would do better under Kerr.

Ever wondered why we once felt fully fit Klay was as good as prime-harden?

2015/16/17 no one said curry was way ahead of kyrie as a point guard.
They both had similar individual skill set.

If that same kyrie was coached by Kerr in that same warriors system.
He may have been the current Curry.

Yet, see where they both are today.
See the wide gap.
The people who never said Curry was way ahead of Kyrie are the silly people that we have had to shut up once and for all this season. Anyone can have an opinion, but an opinion is not a fact.

Kyrie coached by Kerr will never ever ever be Steph Curry. Nobody in the entire NBA is like Steph and we may never find another player like him. Not Jordan, Bird, Kareem, Durant, Lebron. Not one of them is like Curry.
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 4:21pm On Jun 26, 2022
nairamaniac:
Not one player can be the entire system of a dynasty. But he can be the most important unit of that dynasty. Without curry, the warriors don't go half this far.

But let's not take for granted what Steve Kerr brought to this team and changed basketball-plays almost entirely.

In my own opinion;
In the past 20years of sports, only 2 coaches have had such a distinctive influence on their sports in terms of PLAYS&PHYLOSOPHIES.

That Pep Guadiola from the moment he took over Barca 2008.

And Kerr, when he took over Golden state, 2014.

Even with curry on the bench, you can still see the Warriors having movements&shot-creations not seen in other teams.
Basketball is a 5-man a side sport compared to soccer of 11 players. It is easier for 1 player to be the system in basketball than soccer.

That said, Curry is the system. You can't compare the movements when he is on the bench to when he is playing especially when his rotations match the benches rotation of the opposing team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:41pm On Jun 25, 2022
Godx grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:09pm On Jun 25, 2022
Godx:
Jesus Christ
It is not like he does not understand you, he just does not like the facts you are spilling.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:49pm On Jun 06, 2022
Okay, you people have switched from Jonathan to Lawan?

grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 4:40am On Jun 05, 2022
larride:
21 mentions. grin

Na wetin I buy for una hand?

I said it here that whatever Buhari wants to do, it’s the Governors that can help him achieve it. Most times the way we analyze politics on this thread just make me laugh.

Governors/Godfathers can impose candidates in their states because they control their party structures in their respective states but the President needs to convince the Governors to support him in whatever choice he wants to make.

I have said it before, only a naive politician will think Buhari won’t have a preferred candidate, the koko is how he will make that candidate emerge.
I said this as well.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 3:09am On Jun 05, 2022
User09:
Someday, U'll learn how to say things for what they are rather than spinning it for what you want it to be.
lol You see how all the Buhari and GEJ connections died a natural death and nobody is coming to claim the body. Then 2 years from now someone will come and say some APC members told him Buhari was actually priming GEJ to replace him but was swayed by the northern block.

It is hard for Nigerians to separate facts from what they wish.

Anyway, the voting structure is already aligning like most of us thought. I will even go out on a hunch to say, PYO might be Nigeria's next president.

I know someone has said PYO will make Atiku win easily. I have some sad news for such people: I don't think PDP will produce another Nigerian president in the foreseeable future.

I also think PYO will select El Rufai as his VP candidate should he win. That does not mean I am ruling Tinubu out from winning, but based on my own guesstimation, I think PYO wins it.
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 12:47am On Apr 26, 2022
Team wey pass you pass you.
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 12:44am On Apr 26, 2022
Homecooking now for BKN.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:02pm On Jan 01, 2022
AnfieldFan:
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You can't just throw these assertions around...There should be links to verify your claims...
Like the Stadium thing, Etihad has a higher capacity than Anfield, so if averaged out...Who comes tops...
The Puma deal is in line with other top deals , but you could provide the specifics online...
Here is a thrown assertion.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:56pm On Jan 01, 2022
pkasso:
I'm pretty sure the emboldened is wrong. Rival fans don't call their stadium Emptyhad for no reason. Even Pep dey beg fans make dem come stadium. That's how bad it is.
Of course, rival fans will say what they like because it is banter. But people misunderstood Guardiola. They asked him if he felt his team could perform the same way against Southampton as they did against Southampton and he said his players will be tired so he will need fans to come and cheer them up as well. Everyone knows that they had ticket issues before that RP Leipzig game which was well advertised but people just focus on their narrative.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:53pm On Jan 01, 2022
AnfieldFan:
Where are you getting the 100billion dollar valuation for Fenway Sports Group....Any reliable source to back this assertion
I just roughly added the net worth of all their partners. You know, the way "Oil Chester" accusers do when they talk about Sheikh Mansour and his family's worth.

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