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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 3:37pm On Mar 01, 2025
IjeBos:
They should go attack a US carrier or one of the actual European Nato countries if they want to fight NATO.
Surprise why they didn't do that.
Because they wasn't fighting NATO nor do they want to.
Make up your mind. Do you want Russia to do something to justify your hatred of them? I know you guys still blame them for Hillary losing in 2016.

That's not how it works. Russia doesn't want to attack NATO - Russia tried to join NATO but was rejected. But Russia will attack any NATO countries or their proxies if they are DIRECTLY threatened. That's why you have to go beyond what your media are going to tell you to find truth. This war had been brewing since 2014.

Honestly, you should ask yourself what vested interest you have in any of this to allow urself to make such useless and ridiculous comments.
You're selling yourself for a movement of Racists.
You lot are the same mindless bots zombified by propaganda and mass formation psychosis. Let's break it down:

- I am suing for peace. You are not.
- I never wanted the war. You did.
- I knew NATO were using Ukraine as a proxy to weaken Russia. You claimed Russia was the aggressor.
- You believed the media who said Ukraine would win and should not sign a peace agreement 1 week into the war.
- You believed Russia deserved the sanctions and outright excommunication.
- You supported their Nordstrom pipeline being damaged - costing billions
- You supported their foreign reserves being seized
- You believed they were losing and were going to
- You believed the US was justified in sending ammo and military aid continously to a nation that's not even in their alliance because of Russophobia.
- You saw their soccer players etc get ostracized and you said it was right.

Just pause and see if your talking points are different than the neocons. You are now on the side of George Bush and Dick Cheney.

Your hatred for Trump pushed you to support the very people you were diametrically opposed to politically.

Your politics is fully neocon nonsense.

But I'm the one with vested interest even though time proved me right and you fools, wrong, silly and juvenile?

Honestly, most of the stuff you write is nonsense.
Really, take a look in the mirror and figure out what your end goal is.
Yeah the endgoal of wanting peace is so terrible. Trump should actually send all of the tax payers' money to Ukraine.

Fools are supporting Ukraine over their own PRESIDENT. But I'm the one who has vested interests? No. I had my opinions when Trump wasn't in office. Your opinions change depending on what the media announce. You're a fool. Simple as.

grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 7:24am On Mar 01, 2025
IjeBos:
They had to attack Ukraine because they didn't want Nato encroaching?
Why not just attack NATO?
Will they also attack Sweden and Finland now they are in NATO?

Of course not.
Because it was never about NATO.
It was a war to acquire Ukraines minerals and grains and hatred for Ukraine that it had turned West.
Attacking Ukraine was attacking NATO.

Remember, NATO was/is using Ukraine?? So attacking Ukraine was Russia's way of fighting back at NATO. Simple.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 7:17am On Mar 01, 2025
IjeBos:
Lol.
I can't with you MAGA.
No qualms. Believe Jake Tapper and co. After all, they'll never lie.

Not like they've ever lied before.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 6:03am On Mar 01, 2025
IjeBos:
You said Zelensky didn't want to end the war.
I asked you if Putin wanted to end it why didn't they just leave Ukraine.
And instead of answering the quesiton you write this.

Russia is the aggressor.
If they want to end the war they would just stop.
If Trump was concerned he would ask Russia to just stop and the war would be over.

Your logic seems broken.

And the easiest way to resolve a conflict is the person initiating the conflict to stop.
Russia needs more than mere words to guarantee that NATO will not continue to expand towards them using Ukraine.

More than mere words because the previous agreements signed were summarily disobeyed by NATO. So Russia did not attack Ukraine "unprovoked". They had to attack Ukraine out of self-defense.

They were provoked to attack Ukraine. Simple.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 5:58am On Mar 01, 2025
IjeBos:
Ha, you're at it again.
Lol.

Official stats don't matter, just facts that you pull out of your ass.
What's more official than the words of the POTUS?

You see, you only take what comes out his mouth if you feel it makes him look bad. That's TDS Alhaji. TDS.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 5:17am On Mar 01, 2025
MERCHANDISER:
Do you reason from the anus?
There must be ceasefire first before any diplomacy or security guarantee...
Let the carnage stop first sad
Try and search for his posts from 2022. You'd understand why he is scrambling and waffling all over the place.

They predicted the West will humble Russia and turn it to rubble. Everything that is transpiring now is injuring their bunkum and asinine predictions.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 3:50am On Mar 01, 2025
I don't know why you're typing nonsense my way.

I've already told you to believe what you want.

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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 3:48am On Mar 01, 2025
Ibime:
But you just said COVID being genetically modified is proven, now you are telling me to give it time. cos nothing come out

Your problem is you are first to every Russian and Maga conspiracy

It becomes affirmed as truth to you when the magaverse picks it up and a massive volume of people start retweeting and believing. Along the way hundreds of those conspiracies are quietly dropped then you hold up the one or two that become widely believed as a "truth" or an "I told you so" even though the scientific experts do not agree or very few agree.

The reality is that on a percentage basis, most of the stuff you believe are discarded lies but you hold up the 5% that gain traction as proof of your world view. It's a sorry way to build a belief system.

I affirm truth on scientific consensus. Much simpler

As of now, the consensus is COVID is not engineered 5 years later. And don't think the quack RFK will make it true even if he publish anything, it will be thrown in the 🗑️ by scientific community for the most part.
Ignored.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 3:22am On Mar 01, 2025
Ibime:
Convince Wikipedia first who are still calling it a Conspiracy theory.

Is there a consensus on it or just theories?

I don't care either way but so far Google is telling me that your Director of National Intelligence produced a report ruling it out in 2023.

You may produce an official consensus to the contrary but Google is returning nothing, maybe somewhere in your Twitter verse is saying different
Believe them. If everything they've told you has stood the test of time, please believe them. Just remember that 51 former intelligence agents swore that a laptop they had in their possession and knew was real, showed all the earmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign.

Just think of it. They hated Trump so much and wanted him to lose (post 2020 election polls said a significant portion of the democrat voters admitted they'd have changed their votes from Biden to Trump if they knew the laptop was real).

I no need stress this pm where I dey.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 3:04am On Mar 01, 2025
FYI, scientific consensus is agreeing with the source of your grants.

Jay Bhattacharya had all his grants taken from him for not agreeing with Fauci. Ironically, he is going to be the NIH director- replacing Fauci.

That's why it makes ZERO sense to quote scientific consensus. LOL. The others that didn't agree were censored. That's how it happens.

Then after the lie has been disseminated, they'll retract it.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 2:58am On Mar 01, 2025
Ibime:
It's very simple to provide the figure na, not all this rigmarole

Like I said, you can argue with yourself all you want, not what you discussed with me. I don't deal in conspiracy. You are now referencing origins of Covid argument where I told you I'm going with scientific consensus on wet market but not ruling out accidental leak from the lab. You have no evidence of purposeful leak so stop beating your chest.

Anyway not going down several rabbit holes at once, I need to preserve my sanity tonight, early morning waka tomorrow ✌🏽
If you don't know what this means, you are not informed enough to have the conversation.

This is absolutely false. Scientific consensus is that the virus structure rules out genetic modification, and CIA have advised POTUS that it is not man made.
Just look at this madness. And he's still defending it.

- absolutely FALSE grin
- rules out genetic modification
- not man made.

Which of these 3 statements hold true today? All are in fact wrong.

But today, you're basically going back to quote same type of sources to argue again. And you don't see what is coming your way.

grin
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 2:42am On Mar 01, 2025
Ibime:
Is US official website contradicting their own Presido, especially Oversight committee controlled by Republicans

Ok, start by telling me FBI yearly budget since that's the missing piece.

Infact forget it, just provide the $350bln figure.
This is the whole COVID-19 origins all over. I told you, stop using official website, republicans bla bla to make any argument concerning Trump. There's a uniparty, and there's Trump. Trump told you it came from a lab but the CIA contradicted him that time. Whose side did you take? Who ended up being right?

The people who are accused of receiving kickbacks from same Ukraine are going to be incentivized to lie about what was doled out. You know this or at least you should.

I won't do your homework for you. If you don't believe the figure Trump gave, that's fine. I no get energy for useless arguments.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 2:35am On Mar 01, 2025
Ibime:
Don't worry, when you finish, you will explain how the Monkey pox was created by Ukraine to kill Russians.
Prove this. Shouldn't be hard right? Just quote my post stating this. Simple.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 2:32am On Mar 01, 2025
Ibime:
Ok. Use US official Govt website. Read and be blessed

https://www.ukraineoversight.gov/Funding/
Why won't you also give me the FBI and CIA? I'm sure you can find 51 agents to swear an oath confirming your story abi.

If I read it on a govt site, it has to be true. There's absolutely no incentive to lie.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 2:28am On Mar 01, 2025
Ibime:
See me giving you an out through your boy Elon Musk AI that you already use but because it doesn't conform to your propaganda, even Elon Musk AI is not good enough for you, despite using it for other things. Maybe you rather get it from MTG twitter feed than from Congress website who passed the bills.

Don't worry, when you finish, you will explain how the Monkey pox was created by Ukraine to kill Russians.

As of now I'm very OK with my prognosis, with Russian interest rates almost competing with Nigerias above 20%
If you could post that I've used Grok 3 before you might as well post where I said what you're claiming. Why is it hard?

It is hard for a liar who spews stupid stuff as easily as he can think of it.

Again, just to stop you from your weak deflections. I know what type of info to source from Grok. For e.g, I won't search for vaccine information from it.

That's why I don't see the need to waste my time on people who still quote legacy media. You're still grappling with knowing what truth is.

What a sorry case.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 2:23am On Mar 01, 2025
bemeruca:
You don't bomb a country like Russia into peace. Zelensky use him mouth say him people no want cease fire. So from his statement and that question, he is implying diplomacy will not work, they should go the way of Biden and EU, talk tough while his people keeps dying.
The person you are talking to said Russia is a small dejected country that was going to fold and lose badly.

With every fake news of a currency dip or some downward turn in Russia's economy, he came online to brag.

Just search for his posts around 2022. Comedic material I tell you. Everything they predicted has gone to shit today.

Same way, they went full steam on Scamala before the elections. Now they want to contextualize rubbish talk that I told him pointedly, time will prove you and the legacy media as liars just like it did with the whole WMD brouhaha.

But you're dealing with someone so incorrigible that he would rather upload his children than admit he was wrong.

Shameless.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 2:12am On Mar 01, 2025
bemeruca:
You don't understand what u r posting
Don't worry about what he is posting.

Even if Zelensky confesses tomorrow that $350 bln was committed to Ukraine, the guy you're talking to will turn around to call Zelensky a liar or claim he said $175 bln was the first tranche and how he knew another tranche was going to be disbursed.

A liar cannot help himself.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 2:08am On Mar 01, 2025
Ibime:
I should ask who for details of 5 US bills that is public record? At least you use Grok so you can ask Grok

Nobody has done anything to me on Ukraine except show that you are living in fantasy land claiming US was helping Ukraine make biological weapons like monkey pox and anthrax that can kill only Russians, the worst kind of propaganda that only a deranged mind will believe and which has disappeared like the fart of a leprous witch, and which is the argument I had with you on Ukraine.

I support Ukraine does not mean I'm stupid to realities.

Just like WMD in Afghanistan you just spoke about when it was an allegation made about Iraq, not Afghanistan, and not one I supported. You make up arguments with voices in your head and argue with yourself, I can't help you with that.
I won't waste too much time on you as Grok & legacy media are your news sources.

I'll just wait for them to retract their lies and come back to laugh at you as usual.

Don't worry with all your imaginary stories about what was said. You can as well post mine and your posts let others decide.

I'll just caution Bemeruca from wasting his time. When the war has officially ended, you'd come back to tell us

How:

- Russia won
- Occupied more Territory after than before
- Became more economically viable than prior
- made a laughing stock of the sanctions
- prevented Ukraine from joining NATO
- and recovered all the monies lost through thievery fomented by Biden.

This is just me giving the scoops. I can dial it down to the finest details but I'm enjoying the clown show you are putting on here. So keep at it.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 1:27am On Mar 01, 2025
Keep quoting legacy media.

The one they've done to you concerning Ukraine is not enough.

You're still bullish on citing them. Even calling Zelensky a soldier.

O ge me gi fuum na anya

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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 1:06am On Mar 01, 2025
bemeruca:
Lmao, her country was arguing with the people he was begging for help? since Europe is good for nothing.
Check the arguments many people made in 2022 vs now. It will give you an indication as to why they have to die on the hill made by legacy media.

The same legacy media of WMD in Afghanistan for years - knowing it was a lie.

The same legacy media that called you names for pointing out Biden's fried brain only for Jake Tapper (same bastard) to write a tell all book now exposing the mental decline some of us had been calling out since 2019.

Now, same people are just parroting the same lies and talking points. Just look for any liberal hack online - its the same thing all over.

Imagine losing a war in which the USA was supporting you with $350 bln. What are you going to do now without that support? What will the EU do for you? Nothing. Just more empty words.

Wailers. Keep wailing.

We told you so. tongue
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 10:08pm On Feb 27, 2025
Oluwa Burna grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 4:11pm On Feb 22, 2025
But VAR was only supposed to interfere when you had clear and obvious error.

Clear and OBVIOUS.

CLEAR and obvious.

Smh
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 3:50pm On Feb 22, 2025
cococandy:
Right.
If it’s Trump he won but it’s Joe it was stolen.

Mind gone. Bare wasteland
So the 51 C.I.A agents that swore an oath against the authenticity of the laptop did not interfere in the elections?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 3:47pm On Feb 22, 2025
cococandy:
I was a conspiracy theorist when I stated these guys were going to attempt to go for a 3rd term.
“The constitution won’t let him”

We’ve seen how much he clearly respects the constitution
If the constitution stops someone it means said person respects the constitution.

How do you feel about the man who said the constitution tried to BLOCK him from forgiving student debt but it could not STOP him?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 3:45pm On Feb 22, 2025
basilico:
Fake news loses lawsuit Settles $30 million after smearing a doctor .
NBC, MSNBC more evidence of lying media.
Ijebos. Watches MSNBC news in the morning as he works his peloton (His words not mine)

Some media house licences should be revoked, their station raided, every server and communication device carted away to investigate whom they collude with.
Thia is too much. They dgaf if they destroy someone , time for the roles ro be reversed
CBS will edit Trump's interviews to make it imply the complete opposite of what he meant in the context but will edit Kamala's to appear more favorable and well-thought out.

But I'm supposed to believe one of them is a liar and that there was no election interference in 2020. Remember that 2020 where even the CIA swore the Hunter laptop was fake?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 3:42pm On Feb 22, 2025
basilico:
Says it loud. Entitlement. Former CNN Jim Acosta grabbed a mic during a presser, his WH pass was revoked, he sued and a judge ordered it reinstated. Trump the dictator agreed .
Another judge ordered Trump not to block anyone on Twitter them because he was using it to disseminate official policy. Judge didn't care that many bots were instantly replying negatively to him as soon as he unleashed any
"mean " tweet
Currently judges are on a roll , blocking his executive orders right left and center.
There is clearly a judicial overreach,
Trump has been very patient with journalists and activist judges Something has to give in one way or another or he will never get anything done.
Did the Biden Administration not ban the NY post from having WH press access? Can anyone show me any of the libtards complaining about it at the time?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 3:38pm On Feb 22, 2025
cococandy:
The people that voted “for the economy” have been notoriously quiet. No propaganda to be seen about the state of the economy 😏😏
Against my better judgment, I read the article to find paragraphs like this:

Among U.S. households, though, a divide is evident underneath the surface. Expectations for inflation are rising for political independents and Democrats, while falling slightly for Republicans.
Which reads like people who lost elections are hoping for the worst.

I also saw this part of the article. Do you think you ignored it since it does not support your agenda? Just asking.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 3:18pm On Feb 22, 2025
PDPGuy:
Lol. We will see who will win in court. No need for a supposed adults to act like petulant kids…
Classic example of a libtard brain completely mushed up by propaganda, falsehood and lies.

That's why I tell people to vet news and refuse to be a dumpsite where false information is tested.

Compare actual transcript to image libtard above quoted.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 4:14pm On Feb 21, 2025
bemeruca:
Guys be easy on Ibime, we grew up in the same hood. That nigga is my boy 😀
Streetwise is my friend. Around the same age probably 1 year older than me. I would come online to read their rap battles. Many people gave Street the W but your guy was my favorite NL netcee.

That's why abusing him comes hard for me. I'm a fan of his written rap (not so much the Ikwerre-sounding mumbo-jumbo he does when he records the music).

Buahahahahahaha
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 4:12pm On Feb 21, 2025
Livelystone01:
All put aside, I like his views about investment. I took some of his talks about them years ago which paid off. I'm angry that I have a back and forth with him at the moment due to political differences.

Well, as a man, we have no love lost. I'll still ask him about business.
I've told him many times. When he makes those investment posts, I read them and atimes 'like' the comments.

I generally agree with him on almost anything rap.

Outside of those 2, I just ignore him because it ends up getting personal.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 4:02pm On Feb 21, 2025
Livelystone01:
One thing I have noticed in life is that those who call others names are trying to hide something.

An intelligent person will use his intelligence to demystify his opponent and make him understand things that the opposition will end without war. When a man resorts to name calling, I see the person as a subhuman.
He is. I pity people who take him seriously.

I can only mention his investment breakdowns and rap knowledge as redeemable. Every thing else about that guy is degenerative.

His own close pal had to tell the whole world that he fears for his mental health. All FAX no printers.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 4:00pm On Feb 21, 2025
Ibime:
No be you dey reference me since almost daily?

Go and take your meds boy.
Exactly what your wife said before I popped the Cialis and fvcked the madness out of her.

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