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basilico:
Ibime, I've been told that Zelensky didn't understand that the deal was a .mIneral deal not a ceasefire agreement. Don't forget Rice went on every Sunday show saying the raid at Benghazi was sparked by a YouTube video that noone had watched.
They know suckers like you are born every minute,they lie without batting an eyelid.

Her denial is your proof.

Bro, sometimes I want to help them ferret truth out but they don't want to be helped.

Ibime still wants to believe people who got FBI Agents who authenticated Hunter's laptop yet swore an OATH (they perjured themselves) denying the authenticity of said laptop.

Like, if you would still refer to same type of people as evidence, then there's no point arguing.

Bear in mind:

- he wouldn't take Trump's own words as truth
- he wouldn't accept Trump's denials as truth

But he will easily do so for Susan Rice who lied about Beghazi only to walk it back few days later. Her reputation is still in tact to him.

But Scott Perry read off a doc from DOGE about USAID and Boko Haram sponsorship. He dismissed it as a Conspiracy Theory even though Scott Perry reading it off in a hearing can be admissible in court as he is a Congressman.

cococandy:
He picked a fight with Zelensky so he could use it as justification to do his masters bidding

There was a time when one of uniting forces between republicans and democrats was the mutual understanding that we don’t support dictatorship and Russia is not our friend.

The Russian asset in the White House has made it clear we’ve been acquired

Back to it;

RUSSIAN COLLUSION. Even after it failed in 2016, 2020 and now 2025.

And I'm the conspiracy theorist.

Buahahahahahaha

Ibime:
As usual, you have nothing to show

You won't do my homework for me but have time to type long paragraphs and to show me Susan Rice videos except the one where you claim she was on video claiming to speak to Zelensky before the meeting

Now typing long jargon jumping from pillar to post to appeal to maga sentiments instead of addressing the evidence requested. This is not about you having incentive to believe her, I am asking YOU to bring the video you said is in existence of her saying she spoke to Zelensky having provided you (a.) the original tweet that kicked off the conspiracy theory with the author admitting she is only speculating and (b.) Rices own tweet stating she has never met or advised Zelensky

You are a drinker of lies that only mentally unbalanced people would entertain, and you've been caught pants down in another one until you can show the below

- Absolutely false
- Rules out genetic modification
- not man made

I ignored you when you said I didn't have evidence and how you sided with scientific consensus. How's that working out?

That's the difference between me and you. I'm already aware about the lies I was told for years, now I've recalibrated to knowing how to find truth. The result, my predictions just come to play like an accurate prophet's.

You make noise for a short while when all the lying media seem to be on your side. Then when the retractions start, you just unlook.

You're not fooling anyone and nobody's going to do your assignment for you. If you believe Susan Rice, just state it categorically. Don't be dancing around community notes or red herrings.

Incase some of you 40+ year Olds don't know, Community Notes are riggable - Elon the owner of the cite has even complained about it being used against him. Citing them is not evidence SMH

Just like quoting Susan Rice as proof she didn't lie is pure and undiluted stupidity. I'm sorry I have to tell you that.

IjeBos:
Why is it every time anyone asks you to backup the bs you say, you always have a rational why you won't?
Isn't this schtick getting old?

I know honest people who are genuinely seeking truth, vs trolls who will never admit that they are wrong.

For e.g I always knew how to expose the stupidity of someone admitting a virus leaked from a lab but then holding on to the fact that it was somehow not man made or genetically modified. But did I engage? No.

Because I'm not interested in convincing any fool about truth, you included.

Now get to stepping.

bemeruca:
Your time line does not make sense.

What you posted is 8 days before the meeting. That's February 20th, before the 28th Zelenskyy agreed to sign a deal. Again, you are posting crap

I wish you'd stop making it easy for him. I want him to keep defending the lies long enough that he can't walk it back.

bemeruca:
Dems were bragging of speaking with Zelensky asking him to reject the deal before the meeting. This is a fact

Ask your guy if Bipartisan (more like Unipartisan) detracts from the fact that Chris Murphy mentioned the bottomline of the meeting:

- to confirm Zelensky was going to reject the peace agreement BEFORE meeting Trump.

Tell them to explain it. Then same Susan Rice goes on MSNBC to say without a doubt Trump and JD planned it. Think about it.

If they knew he was going to reject the agreement why then also say WITHOUT a doubt, Trump and Vance ambushed Zelensky.

That's the type of foolish argument the media can give them, and they'll just swallow it. No questions asked.

But then turn around and call you a guzzler of lies. The irony.

Ibime:
You've started jumping from pillar to post

Where is your video of Susan Rice saying she spoke to Zelensky before the meeting? Evidence please. Twitter link is not hard to post.

Just kindly post the link instead of unrelated stuff

👇🏽👇🏽👇🏽👇🏽

You're silly if you think I would do your homework for you. I only set out to show you how stupid your argument was by quoting her denial as evidence.

She's a known and renowned liar with the incentive to lie. I'm sorry I'm not naive enough to believe her.

And yes, she's on video exposing herself. Why do you think she is scrambling to deny it? It's because she knows what it implies vs Chris Murphy who at least is still an elected member.

Don't worry. There's a new sheriff in town. It won't take 2 years again for your legacy media to retract their lies and throw her under the bus.

The only issue is, you will then argue that you gave room to the fact that she could have been lying.

You were posting genetic modification and not man made in the same sentence and then talking about consensus. LOL

Stop dabbling into topics you know nothing about. Stop it, it is corny.

bemeruca:
Dems were bragging of speaking with Zelensky asking him to reject the deal before the meeting. This is a fact

I know he's your guy but stop trying to convince him. They just want to believe their lies and people are allowed to.

Chris Murphy's office literally bragged about meeting with Zelensky before he met with POTUS and Vance.

I can post more evidence that proves Susan Rice lied again but who am I trying to convince?

People must think I'm here to win anybody over. I'm not. I'm here to laugh and occasionally call out the TDS.

Ibime:
You watching AI videos in your rabbit hole of MAGA lies now?

It is well.

I truly do have pity for you. Truly.

You are quoting Susan Rice to prove Susan Rice didn't speak to Zelensky?

Surely you can do better than quoting the same Susan Rice of Benghazi, Russia Collusion, Rwandan massacre and lied about it constantly until she couldn't?

That Susan Rice?

Please do better.

You need to control your breathing better when you are lying. I hope you don't play poker.

"I leaked nothing to nobody."pic.twitter.com/Nr3zWwrr5l

— MAZE (@mazemoore) March 2, 2025

^^^ who he will rather believe instead of doing due diligence so he won't continue to be deceived by same people.

Shame.

raumdeuter:
Zelensky is coming back to sign minerals deal

What minerals deal? Didn't he already sign it with UK on January 17th, before the Inauguration?

basilico:
22 democrat senators and congressmen critters post videos each vomiting out the same lies word for word.

Elon Musk promises to buy a cybertruck for anyone who can produce the originator of that garbage.

This is that "33" compilation video of all the main stream news stations repeating the same number of Covid cases in their states.

If your EU knew that Putin was this much of a threat, wouldn't they have been preparing a stronger army long before now?

Wouldn't they have reflected it in their defense/military budgets?

Why are they making those promises now AFTER Trump says he won't fund this war anymore?

Think about it. Stop and actually think.

$800 bln? With which money? You would build what weapons 🤣 by 2030? Why are you fools believing any of this claptrap?

As soon as the US won't fund any war again, the EU all of a sudden now are promising heaven and earth, WHY FOOLS WHY?

Its because they want forever wars. They're just trying to justify the war. Then they send it to their media, who annouce it to the sheeple and next thing you guys start posting Ukraine 🇺🇦 flags and hating Trump.

SMH

Is Russia still a pinchomic country that NATO will plunder to rubble or are they a dangerous force that need to be stopped before they take over Europe?

I don't believe the poser above. I'm just showing you how the mass formation psychosis works.

Your media will throw out 2 contradictory statements and some fools just gobble it up without realizing how both arguments cannot work.

All because they want you to hate orange man for not agreeing to continue with a war that doesn't affect his country in any way.

Think about it.

Broke EU with no money, are deceiving you to force your president to take your taxes and send to Ukraine even though your fellow Americans are in dire need of same aid. Suicidal empathy Gal calls it.

Your media are conditioning you to send your tax payers money to another nation while you suffer. Yet you hate the man who doesn't want any wars. That is who you hate. And you're happy about it.

My good lord. Save your people.

cococandy:
Ah the jokes keep writing themselves.

Let me guess
1) It’s a lie.
2) He didn’t post this .
3) It’s AI that was backdated and magically placed on his profile.
4) His account was hacked
5) A Democrat was pretending to be him

Pick your defense. Gaslight yourself and lie to yourself. Pretend you don’t know you’re making a fool of yourself. And carry on as usual.

Do you understand the image you posted?

November 6, 2012.

Elections are held WHEN?
WHO was the president before that day?
WHO became President after the elections of November 5th 2012?

Did that person get sworn in January 21, 2013 or was he already president from January 21, 2009 through November 6th 2012 when Trump made that post?

I saw 7 people liked that. It has to be 5 of your alts, IjeDunce and the resident imbe.

I won't accept that we have 7 more ediots who endorsed such dumb nonsense.

Ibime:
Great media diet you guys have. Original source?

Absolute trash speculative tweet from a MAGAt. Enough retweets and it becomes "truth"

Everyday web of lies upon lies in Maga world. How do people live on a diet of lies?

You know both Vindman and Rice are on video saying they spoke to Zelensky before that meeting with Trump or why are you tagging me in this?

This guy Francis Collins was on the email chain with Fauci. He has all but openly admitted he lied about being involved with gain-of-function research. You can read up on where he was working and why his sudden retirement is suspicious. That's for another day.

I posted this because of the phrase gain-of-function.

The term simply refers to a type of scientific research or process where an organism—typically a virus or pathogen—is modified in a way that enhances its abilities or characteristics. This could mean increasing its transmissibility, virulence (ability to cause disease), or capacity to infect new species or hosts.

In the context of virology, gain-of-function research often involves altering a virus's genetic makeup in a lab to study how these changes affect its behavior, often to better understand potential threats like pandemics or to develop vaccines and treatments.

I just yanked this off Grok and highlighted the key terms.

- modified virus
- altered genetic makeup

Both terms are a different way of saying genetic modification. It means modifying the gene of a virus to enhance its virulent properties.

- Fauci sent tax payers money to Wuhan - FACT
- Wuhan is short form for the Wuhan VIROLOGY lab (renowned for conducting gain-of-function research)
- COVID-19 "leaked" from that lab.

COVID-19 leaked from a lab known for genetically modifying viruses to make them more dangerous.

Yet in 2025, some people still want Jake Tapper and Rachel Maddow to announce it to them. They want people who get their major sponsorship from Pfizer to sit in front of the TV and tell them;

Your US taxpayers money was used to fund a disease, that was then used to lock the same tax payers up, force an experimental procedure on them, sack fellow tax payers who refused it, yet knew all the while that that procedure won't work.

You're waiting for your media to tell you this, even though they censored everyone else who tried to tell you and even contradict their own PRESIDENT (who was right even though he didn't know).

You want the people who lied about Ivermectin (Nobel prize winning drug) and HCQ, to announce what I am posting here?

I don't know how else to help you people. You don't hate your deceivers enough.

bemeruca:
I like Ukraine I support Ukraine. But since the war started and I saw what Biden and Europeans were doing, I said they are wasting their time and people will die for no reason. The Europeans were talking tough and was not encouraging peace. Ibi.me and bud.aatum how is it playing out?

You were bragging about Russian economic being destroyed, rubble loses its values and all that. But the rubble bounced backed and gained a bit more under Biden. Why? Because the European Union is still funding Russia by depending on the enemy.

My own is, I'm curious to see how long this war will linger without US support.

You've been seeing legacy media nonsense about how the EU was providing more support than the US. That's good. Now is the time to test it.

After that, we can now conduct a full-blown audit on the funds. There will be a lot of retractions then and I would be here to laugh again.

Mark it.

basilico:
If you need a lesson on mob psychology, I'll be glad to provide one.

People need to investigate history. That's the best way to understand the future.

bemeruca:
The Europeans hates the US, they are always virtuous, always talk like the have the moral high ground. They are always in it but their money is never in it, just their mouth to utter we stand with you, we support you even if they are nowhere near you. They know other virtuous idiots like the democrats will put in the money. From trade to censorship, the EU affect the US. Who knows if it is the control of those minerals the EU is killing themselves for Ukraine to join so they can regulate the hell out of them as the money goes to Brussels

See the point I was making?

Europe just cho cho cho. But their money na audio. We no dey see am at all o.

bemeruca:
Ukraine has always voted against American interest when they are into UN matters. They never stood with the US even as the US is helping them.

See the European leaders

You see coordination in their tweet?

When the media made people chant "I stand with Ukraine" or "Slavia Ukrainia" what did it mean?

Ukraine was adjudged the most corrupt country in Europe prior to the war, now anything their president claims is true?

bemeruca:
Dunno but the EU has always funded Russia's war against Ukraine.

When trump was warning them they were laughing at him.

US won't fund again right?

Let us now see if EU were really funding Ukraine with money and not words of affirmation and posturing.

Lemmings,

Vance is not POTUS.

The reason you fools have been directed at Vance is because of 2028.

I just need to provide context for your assignment, fetch dogs.

Now fetch!!

bemeruca:
Uk just signed a deal to provide 5 billion in loan to Ukraine.

Loan loan loan.

What Ukraine need is weapons and man power. Biden and EU waited for many men to die before they started providing inadequate weapons to Ukraine and on top that they put restrictions on how those weapons would be used.

If this war cost Ukraine 175m/day how much time do they have before the $5 bln runs out? 1 month at best.

But apparently the EU gave more aid to Ukraine than the US abi? So they probably need to sextuple whatever they were doing since it was not enough to defeat Russia and Trump has said no more. That's good.

Let's see who was truly funding Ukraine now.

Clock is ticking.

descarado:
One of the most striking things about yesterday’s Zelensky press conference was Lindsey Graham’s reaction to it. The two are old friends, but Graham disavowed him within the hour. This was more than just transactional disloyalty. It was scapegoating. Lindsey Graham knows what’s coming. Over the past three years, with the tacit support of its western patrons, the Ukrainian government has committed a remarkable number of serious crimes. The Ukrainians sold huge quantities of American weapons on the international black market at twenty cents on the dollar. These weapons are now in the hands of armed groups around the world, including Hamas, the Mexican drug cartels and the forces now controlling Syria. God knows what the Ukrainians have done with the pathogens in American biolabs in their country. Even US intel agencies aren’t sure. The Ukrainians have also murdered a number of people in various countries in political assassinations, and tried to murder others, including American journalists and a European head of state. This is all true, and it’s all going to come out at some point.........


We will start seeing some deep secrets coming out.

Tucker Carlson. I saw this post and meditated on it because Lindsey and McCain (before he died) went to Ukraine in 2017 to assure them of a fully US-backed war against Russia. But Trump the pacifist disappointed them.

So, they backstabbed him. Impeached him. Stole his 2020 elections and then tried to jail, kill him etc prior to 2025 because they wanted this war to continue.

Biden gave them the war (in 2022) that Trump refused in 2017. Yet they hate Trump and love Biden.

The world is a lost place.

descarado:
By telling the US to their face that they are lucky to have ocean that separates them and that things may go wrong for them in the future.

By incorrectly declaring to them that they have been alone from the beginning, whereas, they were actually able to stay afloat due to US support.

But folding hands across chest like a petulant child.

By rolling eyes and shrugging at Uncle Sam's opinions.




This is an analysis of a nairaland user on what zelensky did at white house.

Zelensky do not know zilch about international diploma y and relations. Body language especially in front of host camera matters a lot.
Your utterances even when under pressure matters.


If the war stops, election happens. Petty excuses to be a forever president at the detriment of his people.


Thanks to Biden that was throwing American money away like chewing gum wrap.

I read somewhere Biden has lashed out on zelensky before.

Biden lashed out at Zelensky at least 2 times and then turned around to give him everything he wanted each time.

Biden continued to waste tax payers money on Ukraine even after Hurricane Hellene and the LA fires. He prioritized Ukraine over US citizens.

That doesn't anger any of the useless ediots here. Even after reports of the abject waste of the aids and kickbacks, people are still angrier at Elon for trying to cut govt waste than the waste itself.

Zelensky killed a US journalist and Biden continued to send him money. Any calls for auditing the funds were always dismissed. People don't want audits for how their money is spent.

I doubt some of these people pay taxes. That has to be the only explanation. And I won't be surprised. A lot of people project on here. Some people may just be in an asylum and pretending to be Americans.

basilico:
Seems like Zelensky took advice from Victoria Nuland, Blinken , Susan Rice and Vindman to reject the deal .
On X it's said he took calls before meeting Trump.
Makes sense. He is the one who insisted on coming to DC to sign the deal.
There is a small act Logan Act that Joe Biden had suggested in Dec 2016 could be used to nail Michael Flynn..... Susan Rice was in that meeting at the oval office then.

Trump revoked security clearance for a DC lawfirm Covington and Burling plus any contract they have with the govt. Eric Holder is a partner there. Victoria Nuland is a partner there after being the Ukraine Shadow president.

Vindman is a dual citizen who decided to play activist when his only role was to interpret to Zelensky what Trump was communicating in English. Did I mention that he is Ukrainian and the country in question was Ukraine?

But the media announced to their lap dogs - Vindman is a man to love and they went with it.

The type of group think involved in this level of mass psychosis. I think about it all the time.

Now see, same Vindman showing his loyalty again to Ukraine and not the US. But the lap dogs are told to hate their US President (like anybody here is more American than Trump) vs a foreign agent.

And they are going along with it. Even though they just saw all the lies about Scamala get retracted in REAL time after the elections.

cococandy:
BTW that $350 billion figure being touted by Trump is of course another lie( no surprise here).

you people really need to stay on top of fact checking everything that comes out of his mouth. Otherwise you’ll waste your day arguing on a “fact” that doesn’t even exist to begin with.

He’s a pathological liar that lies just for the sake of lies. He doesn’t even plan to lie. It just flows out of his mouth and the next minute he’s trying to walk back his lies.

Test the logic you are propounding here. Between you and the POTUS who should have access to the financial data of the country he is presiding over?

Do you think Trump took a calculator to churn out the value of the US' commitments to Ukraine? Or Do you think that figure was given to him by someone within his administration who might know better?

Ask yourself honest questions here.

Now let's say Trump's figure is wrong, how would you be able to prove it? Don't be in a hurry. Just think about it.

Ask yourself why whatever source you are going to quote will have better information about US spending than the president.

descarado:
They way they hold on to their media is crazy. No common sense.

Their media is their heart

It is so painful bro. So painful.

If a man deceives me once, shame on him.
But if he deceives me twice, shame on me.

Android17:
This Mrs Vindman. Alex's wife who sided with Ukraine (the nation he was born into by the way) against his own POTUS that he was interpreting for.

Vindman broke chain of command, lied to get his boss impeached (over information about Biden that ended up being true) over a foreign nation.

Yet he was treated as a hero. Celebrated by the media while Trump was called all sorts. Nobody remembers that Trump still continued to arm Ukraine at the time. And that Hunter's laptop was real.

Then Biden is leaving in 2025 so peep at what Mrs Vindman posts below:

Yet, you guys continue to support these people who hate America and are treasonous towards her. Because your media announced it.

It's unconscionable.

Why does Mrs Vindman feel betrayed? Why did she feel her husband deserved a blanket pardon that Biden was offering to everyone who helped him do his bidding?

Turn your conspiracy brains on. Fools. Turn it on.

descarado:
I have never seen this kind of hatred.
Are they alright?

Your president said no more freebies and war is business and they are angry.

Boris and co deceived this man who never studied history or have good advisers into starting war with Russia and he agreed.

I can remember the first few months into the war.
He and his wife appeared on vogue cover.
Now, he care for his people.

USAID sent $4m to Time Magazine to name Zelensky POY.

They sent millions to influencers in Ukraine to inflate his reputation. Just to garner support for this war, they knew Ukraine would never win.

But I have vested interests if I don't support this foolishness.

This Mrs Vindman. Alex's wife who sided with Ukraine (the nation he was born into by the way) against his own POTUS that he was interpreting for.

Vindman broke chain of command, lied to get his boss impeached (over information about Biden that ended up being true) over a foreign nation.

Yet he was treated as a hero. Celebrated by the media while Trump was called all sorts. Nobody remembers that Trump still continued to arm Ukraine at the time. And that Hunter's laptop was real.

Then Biden is leaving in 2025 so peep at what Mrs Vindman posts below:

Yet, you guys continue to support these people who hate America and are treasonous towards her. Because your media announced it.

It's unconscionable.

descarado:
This is what Americans are supporting and defending.

Cos they can freely print dollars for the world to use. Freeze another country's reserve if they don't bend.

And Americans like what I see here cheers and glees.

Remind me the meaning of bully again.

Oh the ego of man.


Let's wait and see how this will be resolved

Yet printing of those dollars is how the government levies inflation on their citizens.

Ije and the rest of the retařdosphere cheer on. They want America to fail to justify their hatred for Trump.