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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 3:42pm On Feb 12, 2025
You guys are misunderstanding me. I still like Pep.
He is still the undeniable GOAT.
My issues have been laid out this season. Whether we win or lose, I don't believe in a Gundo, Bernardo, Kovacic midfield - anymore.
I don't like the way we set up to play knowing our glaring issues.
I don't like that he has become too sentimental and at the same time less ruthless.
I don't like that the board wanted signings after the treble and he had been saying, no.
I don't like that he refused new signings at the beginning of the season until we were getting bitch slapped.
I don't like that he is not willing to try anything else.
I don't believe controlled possession is the way to counter our issues.

Does he have solutions? Of course he does. Once he stops being sentimental, he'll get back to the Pep I used to, and tbh, still love.

I'm allowed to be unhappy with my manager. It is a father-son relationship. I'm the only one allowed to criticize him.
If someone else does, I'll forget why I'm unhappy with him, and immediately want to go defend my Hero.

In Pep I trust. cry
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 6:15am On Feb 12, 2025
IjeBos:
Musk says "Some of the things I say will be incorrect". sad

How many people in this thread spread this 50 million dollars for Condoms in Gaza?
The US is going to have to tackle the misinformation that is being spread at a dizzying pace.
By the way, EM said he may have been wrong on the location of the delivery of said condoms but concluded that the USAID should not be spending $50M on condoms for whatever reason. Therefore, there is no victory lap between whether it was Gaza or Mogadishu. It is still a waste of $50M.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 6:11am On Feb 12, 2025
IjeBos:
Piffle?
You mean like this post?
What does it even mean? It's almost like reading the Jabberwocky


This whole quote shows a fundamental misunderstanding of US laws(esp. surrounding Student Loan forgiveness) and Supreme Court rulings.
You are basically asking for precedence of POTUS following the Law (I guess it may seem odd given Trump).
You also don't seem to understand what the Supreme Court found illegal about Biden's Student Loan plan yet here you are arguing something about it.
Honestly, I can't even make heads or tales of what you are trying to say.
This is my post:

Let me start where I started with Bud.aatum.
If I devise a plan to forgive student loans, find them summarily challenged in court, and SCOTUS returns them unconstitutional, should POTUS:

- Do what Biden did in this post if he did what you have above?

What you have above clearly is not a workaround, I agree. He simply revisited the other student loans he already knew existed but were not being implemented properly, found better ways to implement them, and was able to forgive more loans. Is that your argument? Let me be sure I've summarized it.

If so, how does that compare with the post below? There's a video for it too.
Notice he says "tried to BLOCK me".
I did NOT ask you for precedence. I said your response will help set the precedence here -> [this thread] for some of the other abject town-criers, when the current POTUS, pushes through with his own policies if BLOCKED by the SCOTUS - Just like Biden did.

That's why you should just answer questions directly like honest people do.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 4:07am On Feb 12, 2025
IjeBos:
I've giving you enough information to help you on your way to actually speaking not out of ignorance.
You have google right? If so, google the programs the revised Student Loan relief was based on. Find which ones were not legal. Hint.. none were.
The premise of all your arguments on this topic is flawed because you've chosen to try to have a conversation on a topic you haven't studied.
I would assume you're goal here would be learning and not just standing by misinformation you find online.
Will you answer questions directly? What do I have to do with the piffle you have here?

This is my post:

Let me start where I started with Budaatum.
What did he mean here? I read what you have above. It is a lot of nothing. If I devise a plan to forgive student loans, find them summarily challenged in court, and SCOTUS returns them unconstitutional, should POTUS:

- Do what Biden did in this post if he did what you have above?

What you have above clearly is not a workaround, I agree. He simply revisited the other student loans he already knew existed but were not being implemented properly, found better ways to implement them, and was able to forgive more loans. Is that your argument? Let me be sure I've summarized it.

If so, how does that compare with the post below? There's a video for it too.
Notice he says "tried to BLOCK me".
Just respond to that post. I don't need any other thing you have to say. I'm trying to establish the precedence for instances where a POTUS could be blocked by the SCOTUS, and still find ways to implement his policies by leveraging the already baked-in-the-law policies he can re-implement like Biden did. Simple.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 3:52am On Feb 12, 2025
airmark:
And I am here.
So it took you 2.5 years, City treble, historic 4-peat to be right about Pep?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 3:50am On Feb 12, 2025
Kilishihunter:
The truth is you'll have been even beaten more badly if you went toe to toe with them on transitions, arsenal beat you at that game talkless of Madrid that's even dangerous, your midfield and defence has become somewhat weak, I know rodri 's absence played a huge part but you should still have been able to patch things up a little, maybe pep is also exhausted too like klopp was last season who knows
I'm not saying City should play on the transition. I'm saying Pep plays controlled possession to prevent teams from hitting us with transitions but it has not been working because we end up still losing the game.

Pep is not exhausted. He has just become more sentimental. A father figure, trained some of the same set of players for 8-9 years so he feels like he saw them grow up, win, and now we are here today. He just wants them to know he will trust them until they are no longer in the team - for all they helped him achieve. That's why even though we spent £180M in this window, he did not use any of the players that may have made a difference.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Android17: 3:47am On Feb 12, 2025
Kilishihunter:
If pep was to leave now or when his contract expires who do you reckon as an ideal candidate to replace him?
- Xabi Alonso (Pep likes him).
- Hansi Flick grin (personal favorite)
- Iraola of Bournemouth.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 3:46am On Feb 12, 2025
airmark:
This.



The road of 'I don't care' has now led you to the dungeon of had I known.
Who won the league in 2022-24?

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17:
budaatum:
You are not following my argument at all, Android, and are adding your opinion to it and calling it mine.

The link simply lists the cases against dump. And I posted it to show you Dems weaponising, as in using the law to challenge dump.
What does this have to do with my post to you?

You're just trying to deflect into something else. See my poser:

Is it POTUS's duty to develop a workaround (that is not explicitly explained) except saying "we came up with one to still disobey SCOTUS' order"?
That's the only thing I need a response to that post you quoted. Kindly oblige. Thanks.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 3:39am On Feb 12, 2025
IjeBos:
If you wanted to discuss civilly, you would have spent time actually learning about what Biden did so you could discuss.
What you did here is spread a lot of propaganda, which is so often the case in this thread and in the US right now.

What I posted is not a workaround and is what Biden did.
What I posted and what Biden did is not inconsistent with what he wrote in the tweet you linked.
And the post was written in a way to make sure it was not inconstant.



Biden's problem and the Democrat's problem is he/they expects/ed people to actually read and understand policies before making assumptions.
That's not where the US and clearly this thread is in this day.
You didn't seem to.
Android17:
Let me tell you my M.O. I discuss civilly until people want to go down and dirty. Depending on my mood, I can be incredibly nasty. Just take note as your reputation precedes you.

Let me start where I started with Budaatum.
What did he mean here? I read what you have above. It is a lot of nothing. If I devise a plan to forgive student loans, find them summarily challenged in court, and SCOTUS returns them unconstitutional, should POTUS:

- Do what Biden did in this post if he did what you have above?

What you have above clearly is not a workaround, I agree. He simply revisited the other student loans he already knew existed but were not being implemented properly, found better ways to implement them, and was able to forgive more loans. Is that your argument? Let me be sure I've summarized it.

If so, how does that compare with the post below? There's a video for it too.
Notice he says "tried to BLOCK me".
Now that you've been shown what I said in my last rejoinder, can you respond to my posers?

Like I told Budaatum, just answer the questions directly. I don't need your preamble.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 3:36am On Feb 12, 2025
budaatum:
You are being disingenuous by halves, I dare say.

Magas have been insisting page after page here that dump don't mean what he said but now you wanna claim Biden tweeted what you understand. I mean, could he not have been exaggerating a tad, or outright lying?

Biden used existing laws to forgive as much student loan as he could within the law, unless you want to show us a judge said it ain't.

What he forgave was way far below what he promised, and there's people who never got their loan forgiven because his path for more and as promised was blocked. By a judge.

Practically. On student loan forgiveness, Biden failed to deliver.

Imo, US student loan is Indentured servitude and the master is those owed, so he clearly was up against powerful resistance and I'm glad he tried. We Nigerians should learn about this considering these early days of our own student loaning.

170k after 24 years is usury, I'd think.
Thank you for the tales by moonlight. I don't indulge in mindless drivel.

Did Biden not say the SCOTUS tried to BLOCK him?

In his post, he now insists he found a way to still get his way even though the SCOTUS blocked him.

Is that clear?

Should Trump respond, I streamlined some policies and re-implemented them in a more effective manner that I was able to [insert whatever policies that he has been blocked from implementing]?

Simple and clear answers. I can read lengthy posts. But I don't need dredge.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 1:07am On Feb 12, 2025
IjeBos:
This is a silly take untethered from what actually happened.

Biden created a plan for student loan relief.
The Supreme Court found that plan unconstitutional.
He then went and made sure the student loan relief programs that were already in law were being implemented and those students who were eligible for that relief received the relief.
The goal of some of these programs Congress passed was to get people working in fields that didn't pay a lot.

There was no workaround.
He followed the law.

You've spent a lot of time arguing something you heard on right wing propaganda that you don't understand.
Let me tell you my M.O. I discuss civilly until people want to go down and dirty. Depending on my mood, I can be incredibly nasty. Just take note as your reputation precedes you.

Let me start where I started with Budaatum.
What did he mean here? I read what you have above. It is a lot of nothing. If I devise a plan to forgive student loans, find them summarily challenged in court, and SCOTUS returns them unconstitutional, should POTUS:

- Do what Biden did in this post if he did what you have above?

What you have above clearly is not a workaround, I agree. He simply revisited the other student loans he already knew existed but were not being implemented properly, found better ways to implement them, and was able to forgive more loans. Is that your argument? Let me be sure I've summarized it.

If so, how does that compare with the post below? There's a video for it too.
Notice he says "tried to BLOCK me".

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 12:16am On Feb 12, 2025
airmark:
I warned you but you wouldn't learn, even without limbs you allowed Raumdeuter to mislead you.

Even with tears in your eyes, it's Fraudiola till you die. grin grin
You warned me he will win 4 straight EPL titles?

I love the man. But he is misbehaving that's the truth.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 12:15am On Feb 12, 2025
nateevs:
You did not challenge anything because I never claimed authority over his self worth. What you are reading from me and what your are understanding are two different things. But I know how it's come about. It's sheep mentality.
Are there democrat-leaning Billionaires?
Do they crave more wealth?
What did they do with their craving when Biden was in power?
When Elon Musk was a Democrat how did he deal with his craving?

There's only one reason why you won't respond.

TDS. Prove us wrong. E-diot.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 12:08am On Feb 12, 2025
budaatum:
Since, Android?
The block being lifted is it not part of the lawfare EM was fighting? Abi, did you think it was not ongoing?

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 11:59pm On Feb 11, 2025
budaatum:
I love how you jumped there from your "Biden did", which I did not agree with since Biden didn't in my view, to dump should and therefore will do, lol. It enlightens.

No! Biden should not disregard every court order, and if he does I hope he loses the election, because that is just not the democracy I'd want for America and I hope the majority wouldn't vote for it, though I'm giggling at my own surprise.

What Biden did was some wuruwuru that no one (to the best of my little knowledge, so correct me if I'm wrong please), brought before a judge so a judge could have held him to account. Someone after all does have to go before a judge and say, "Judge! Biden doing what you said he shouldn't do. Sanction him!"

But you're right. Dump will disregard the law. And he has a supporting Scotus which Biden never had which bothers me. Not that Biden never had it, but that the right to disobey the law is seemingly being given to dump, in advance. Its like saying our King Charlie has immunity from any crime he commits, an immunity we don't even give to our gods.

But you know the Dems will "weaponise". Or so the pugs say we do when we lawyer up before a judge, and antifa, and blm, and union and etc etc etc for democracy, least as blues see it, and already are.

I did laugh at the below.
Before going off on another tangent. What part of the article you cited don't you agree with?

Is it POTUS's duty to develop a workaround (that is not explicitly explained) except saying "we came up with one to still disobey SCOTUS' order"?

I like to follow arguments logically.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17:
nateevs:
Your problem off the bat is assuming that because I am 100% anti-Trump, then I "thoroughly believe in" CNN.

This is the problem you guys have. Sheep mentality. You think no one is capable of forming opinions about Trump, unless it's from the media.

You are on a road to even more nonsense. You think his networth reduced, then you man up and phucking show us the proof of it. ........Instead, you are using a news source that you criticize as a Trump sheep to justify nonsense for this instance of winning..... and then trying to make it look like you know me with CNN from somewhere. Don't project your insecurities on me sheep.

Give us the reference point for Trump's wealth as at 2016. Trump as a President-elect and fully sworn in never declared his self worth, so what is your source?

Because the Fuhrer said it?
Nateevs, you're doing a fine job brandishing how stupid you are. Let me give you more rope to hang your ugly head with.

So, you didn't know Trump's Networth in 2016. Won't accept it contracted in the years he was POTUS. Won't accept CNN, nor Political facts. Won't even have accepted it from same Trump himself whom you call a liar. But insist that, I have to justify the contraction in his networth - by some means.

Just tell us the website, news source you will honor as a truth-o-meter so I can provide you the delta in his networth between 2016-20.

After that is proven, will you then accept that, you are the dull lemming who thinks he gets brownie points for calling others sheeple, when it itself, is the quintessential stupid sheeple? The very one with blemishes not fit for use in your herd. You're diametrically opposed to anything Trump, you will challenge it even when it is irrefutable.

Your own type of TDS is unbecoming. What was your mother's excuse for not terminating you again?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Android17: 11:37pm On Feb 11, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
City committing so many mistakes.

But what was Guardiola thinking?
This match needed a winger who make things happen. The first time Fodden went for dribbling, it resulted in penalty
Pep has not been himself. It's painful to watch. I feel like crying sometimes. Don't even know what to do with myself right now. I'm just sad.

We spent £180M during the January transfer window because we already saw how bad we were before January. Guess how many of the new players played today? None. So why buy them?

Is it that Khusanov that is strong like Walker can't mark Vini instead of Rico? If RM, were to play Lens FC would Khusanov not have played?

Pep left Bernardo to be doing all his helping with buildup play. But Madrid already have strong, taller, physical midfielders and we know we struggle when teams are stronger than us physically. That's part of why Stones was doing so well - his height, strength on the ball etc. Pep put him back at CB just so he can bring Kova - that Pep was just saying is not a DM.

Why?

We could have used Marmoush and Doku to stretch their defense. No away goals. Make we just kill ourselves. No. Pep was still trying to play control that was not working.

He is just too stubborn to fix things right now and he is stuck in a doom-loop. He thinks he has to double and triple down on his ideas till it works but Einstein defined that as being mad.

Unfortunately, Einstein is right. Pep is now Mad.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:12pm On Feb 11, 2025
Kilishihunter:
You'll need to either hope rodri returns earlier or invest in your midfield, Nico looks like one who'll be a stalwart for years cause we knew his quality at lamasia but seeing kdb, gundo, stones getting tired legs in this modern football and your youngsters with low physicality it might still be a problem, also a great goalie to replace ederson too
I don't trust Pep again tbh. So it does not matter who comes back.

Did you see RM's defense? And Pep still went for control.

Why are you afraid of transitions when you've been losing all the games you still wanted to have control in? At what point, will he see that, just being able to win headers, run, press. That is 80% of the game already.

Sighs.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:10pm On Feb 11, 2025
Leyqute:
Android17

What do you have to say today? grin

Generational talent is not talenting again
My team get issues past the Foden trolling.

Let me deal with my grief without disturbance biko.

Is it a crime for my team to suck so bad?

Leave me o.

cry
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:08pm On Feb 11, 2025
swiz123:
Kovacic had no business being in this game. Dude was always clumsy and useless. Pep should have known better.
Pep?

Pep is a sentimental old man now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:08pm On Feb 11, 2025
I'm done with Pep.

Let's go and bring Hansi from our brothers, Barca. We have money to pay him. Iraola of Bournemouth? What's up bro?

Watchu doing?

cry
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:21pm On Feb 11, 2025
AirBere:
May be in Saudi because no way City is competitive with him in the starting 1. At this level, he's done. Great player.
You're probably right.

May God deliver me from hero syndrome.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 10:21pm On Feb 11, 2025
A40:
I do not care for this jejune argument. Everybody know who don win and who lose.

Na you don dey wail since on top small matter
grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:16pm On Feb 11, 2025
raumdeuter:
Will there be a next season for KdB at citeh
I don't even know tbh.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 10:15pm On Feb 11, 2025
Not worth my time.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 10:11pm On Feb 11, 2025
Not worth my time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:06pm On Feb 11, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Does City know it's Valverde/Mendy playing FB?
Make dem try use wing if the center no gree.
Commit dis ad hoc FB.
I'm just mad at Pep I don't even know what to say anymore.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:06pm On Feb 11, 2025
swiz123:
KDB has been a disgrace. Old age treating him so badly.
He looks leggy. I hope he gets back to form next season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:05pm On Feb 11, 2025
Jude deserved a yellow for pulling Savio.

Silence.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 8:36pm On Feb 11, 2025
nateevs:
Sir Sheep, at least do some diligence. Go find the reference point for Trump's Networth in 2016 that Forbes was quoting. Was it an official declaration from Trump?
Why do you think this question is for me who is quoting a source of news you thoroughly believe in? If you have any contrary proofs concerning his networth, provide it. I'm agnostic about the value if it shows it contracted between 2016-20, do you agree?

Remember, we are still waiting for your response on Elon Musk's crave to raise his networth beyond the puny $80 bln it is at. Do you see how you claimed authority on his networth, and I did not challenge it?

Now tell us, if EM had those cravings as a Democrat, if there are current Billionaires who were skewed towards the democrats, and what EM was doing about his craving as a democrat?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 7:54pm On Feb 11, 2025
budaatum:
You may indeed translate it how you wish, but if the supreme court disagreed with his workaround they have the power to sanction him and would have but didn't, just as they would if they disagree with dumps workaround or wouldn't if its legal.
So, Trump should disregard every court order, and as long as the SCOTUS don't hold him accountable, he is fine.

That's very good. That's what he will do.

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