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chic2pimp:
G+A plus performances in Big games both in the league and Europe.

BTW I have Saka in my TOP 5/6 wingers in world footy.

I have not said Saka is better than Vini this season but he was better last season. That was my point.

Then, Vini should be above Salah, Nunez etc this season as well but pointing out that Salah's numbers are better and Nunez' numbers are the same.

The point is, PR is making the difference. The proof is, Haaland's first season was better than anything Vini and Bellingham have done this season yet people are calling Jude's the best ever first season. That is completely bogus and hype-filled.

Foden was outplaying Neymar and Mbappé in a CL SF at age 20 but Smellingham is the generational talent.

Cool story.

popizaino:
All i can say is that you are very terrible at sarcasm.

Two truth can co-exist. Football quality has dropped and Man city 100points league winners side isn't the greatest EPL side.

Yeah, it is the United team with 87 points and a UCL won via penalties.

The City team that won a treble is inferior to them. Logic.

chic2pimp:
15 goals in 26 appearances in the league compared to Salah's 18 in 32 is definitely not inferior. Mind you, one utterly dominated the CL this season with MOTM after MOTM whist the other was found wanting.

He was most certainly better than Saka and Nunez please.

It won't work that way.

Count G+A for all players involved.

I asked for Saka last season vs Vini since you said Vini had been the best for a while now.

I have the numbers but I want you to look at them yourself and tell me objectively that Vini is far and away the best based on actuals.

popizaino:
@jodera
@Android17

Any objection on the emboldened?

Context "when it comes to balon dor". I agree with him.

Remember, this UCL and the one over LFC don't count for Carlo since he won them in the inferior phase.

Carlo Ancelotti has therefore won only 2 UCL titles since Pep started coaching.

hensben:
He is saying the truth, you guys don’t just watch football from neutral point of view, always agenda. Same Bellingham Enzo dominated when we met Dortmund. He always look lost in midfield until he scores is when you know he is there. His presence is not felt as a number 10 or false 9 until he score and most of the goals are easy tap ins.

Because he is a utility player - jack of all trades and master of none. When he scored all those goals, he was the striker. Then teams sussed RM out and Carlo changed and started using Vini and Rodrygo to play like the STs.

In this game we watched, he was inconsequential to RMs win. No difference between him and Lunin or Kepa. But if I wanted to be a hype merchant, I'd say look at the stats: Kepa kept a clean sheet. That is how some of these RM stans come off, when they try to redirect someone to rubbish stats when they want to defend the player.

Sportsweb:
Cry Today

Cry Tomorrow

You are the only Man City Fan worldwide

Of course.

chic2pimp:
LOOOL...Vini is Top ONE winger in the world and has been that way for a while now.

His numbers are the same with Darwin Nunez and inferior to Salah's for example. Was he better than Saka last season?

You see, it is not as you are saying. Madrid PR is just almost unbeatable.

Sportsweb:
Cry Today

Cry Tomorrow

It changes nothing.

Real Madrid won Ucl, dumping your Man City out (by the way, you are the only City fan in the whole world)

Vini and Bellingham bossed the UCL final

Whether you cry, weep, shed tears, it changes nothing

DumDum, City won a historic treble last season. RM don't have 1. City won a historic 4 peat. It is the EPLs first in history.

You must be confusing me for someone who is arguing from a disadvantaged position. I'm enjoying myself exposing you fools for your double standards and illogic. In fact, if it was not paining you, you won't find the need to engage me.

I took a trip to a certain state over here to watch a tired City team still trounce your useless CFC. I was the only City fan in attendance apparently. Wretch.

Sportsweb:
One ekuke Barca dog and the only Man City fan worldwide weeping bitterly.

Whether Chelsea or United support Real Madrid is not of your business. Now continue crying

If you don't engage me your father won't die well.

OhBritannia:
Sometimes many of you writes like children or are football as if you started watching football 3 years ago.

Even if vinicus wins Balon d'or, neymar will still be ahead of him on the list of the greatest footballers.

Injuries is what has stopped and leaving Barcelona is what stopped neymar from reaching the pinnacle of football.
The day he decided to leave Barcelona was the day his career took a nose dive but even at that, he is still greater than the Vinicus.
This is vinicus's best season but neymar's worst season back in the days had more impacts than vinicus of 2024.
The quality of football has drastically reduced when it comes to talent that will give you all the audacity to mention vinicus, Bellingham when it comes to balloon d'or.

Something that even Riberry, robben, zlatan and Co coundnt win.

It is NL and then Chelsea fan thread. Don't be surprised.

Haaland is a top 2 striker in the world but he is not the ballon dor. Both statements can be true. Vinicius can be the top player in his position and not be the ballon dor. They've so bastardized the awards that it is almost entirely a publicity stunt nowadays.

larride:
You still don't mention anyone who you think deserve it but those that are mentioning someone you think it's PR.

Bros small small now.

I said the candidates are closely matched. So I am agreeing that he could have a podium finish. I'm only saying the clamor that him and Jude are getting are PR induced because the performances and stats don't validate the degree of clamor.

Accurate clamor: Vinicius is a top 3 winger in the world.

PR: Vinicius deserves the ballon dor.

larride:
Haaland had mad shout last season, didn't he?

Anyway let's agree Vini shout is PR, in your own opinion, what do you think deserve to be nominated and win this year Balon d'Or?

Haaland did not get PR induced chants like Benz's season, Lewa's seasons etc. Those are deserved.

PR chants are when the clamor for recognition outstrip the actuals.

For your question, I think the candidates are closely matched and the other soccer competition left will probably tip the scale. No, I don't think Foden is the outright ballon dor winner nor do I think it is Foden or any City player. But I don't also believe the RM players getting the chants are more deserving either.

His first season blah blah.

Erling Haaland had 52 goals. Broke every record breakable and won a treble.

Yeah. PR.

larride:
You said it's PR that's making Vinicius favorir for Balon d'Or, I'm asking you why you think he doesn't deserve it and who you think deserve it in your opinion without PR.

Yeah. I'm going to get you there which is why I want to show you the Vinicius chants are also PR induced.

What is his favorite for? His numbers are borderline the same with Darwin Nunez. If it is about winning a league and UCL - Others won a treble last season and they did not get ballon dor chants or the nod.

No matter what you bring up, I'll show you others who did it better and never got the same chants. Thus PR.

larride:
Vini do not deserve to win Balon d'Or? Who deserve it then? Foden?

So what is Vinicius the favorite for?

andrewbaba44:
They hate pep dominance at the epl and his players ,No be today

Reason why I Dey enjoy their downfall

Now the competitions are no longer inferior. It is only inferior when Pep wins it.

andrewbaba44:
I know the Dortmund supporting talk was a scam .

They will bury their face inside the ass of Madrid and ignore how they cheated them at the bernabeu where they almost did a come back ,but the fools will always come and cry about iniesta late winner 50 years ago

I remember last season. All I kept reading was how Lukaku this and that.

Nobody is talking about Adeyemi and co now. It is about how no matter how anyone dominates RM, they'll still win. If Jude scores 19 goals 5 assists in La Liga - he dominated. Foden with 19 goals 8 assists was carried. On this same thread. Lol

andrewbaba44:
A Chelsea fan for that matter ,majority of Chelsea fans supported Dortmund ,I wonder why some of them here love Madrid

My own be say make Bellingham no smell ballon d or ,I will rather see annoying akpororo winning it

Both of them should not win it except for PR.

As for CFC fans, biggest inconsistent disloyal hypocrites ever. They'll have pretended they supported Dortmund if the results were reversed.

Unlimited22:
But e don beast final and e don win UCL and Laliga nau 😎

Congrats to him for all he has won. If this performance is "beasting" a final - you see why some of us call him a PR merchant.

This guy is not better than Mason Mount.

andrewbaba44:
Wetin pain me exactly ?

Pain me say Madrid don win ucl wey me and you already know before kickoff ,or Wetin pain me

Be specific abeg

He is forcing the trolling. I had already said I wanted Mbappé to win it the moment City went out. I came here to show them the Smellingham no reach.

Did you see the way Jude wore his jersey during the goal Carvajal scored?

World class talent you know.

You'll soon see fools typing

"He was not feeling well".

10...9...8...7...

Lose the ball, dive.

You did that way against City.

Fraudingham.

Started at Birmingham for a reason.

drisham:
Bellingham balondor candidate has ghosted 5legs of Cl football

Walai foden clears this guyyy in every way

Let them just take him off first.

I'm waiting.

Smellingham the smello.

PR merchant player.

Unlimited22:
But them no get any other thing aside mentality.

Must be nice

THIS RM team. Emphasis on THIS one.

Unlimited22:
Ah

Make them dey take Viagra now.... Why the anxiety against only Madrid and no one else?

Because they're the winningnest team in the competition.

Unlimited22:
So how come teams only fail to take chances against Madrid?

Performance anxiety.

Dortmund got to a UCL final without Smellingham.

Smellingham stinking up the joint like his name suggests but I'm sleep though.

Unlimited22:
Why the game enter penalties in the first place?

Because Haaland, KdB, Foden and Bernardo Silva missed great chances like Adeyemi and co are doing now.

Unlimited22:
Why you no win them nau? 😂

Penalties which can go anywhere.