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Bacteria8:
Last season we had just 1% chances against Man City... What's our chances this season 0.5% ?? 😅😅😅

The 1% chance was at the 89th minute after Mahrez had scored.

You have a 45% chance of qualifying as it stands.

Kukutenla:
Stop calling me names before I unleash on you.
Your link is not working as well
The part occurred in the 51st minute not 53 and Rudiger cleared the ball after Courtois' save.
I don't know where Dominisk the reporter got his commentary from but he sure wasn't talking about that particular chance cause it wasn't flagged offside. It's obvious you did not watch the match but relied on hearsay from Dominisk just as I previously observed.
Go back and watch the match and see the chance in the 51st minute. I repeat, 51ST MINUTE
Shots like Tchouameni's almost always result in a goal when goalbound. It was a chance and was counted as a chance for madrid.

This is an example of a play by play commentary.

https://theathletic.com/live-blogs/real-madrid-manchester-city-live-score-updates-result-champions-league/guDa0ITcZYoP/

Kukutenla:
Stop calling me names before I unleash on you.
Your link is not working as well
The part occurred in the 51st minute not 53 and Rudiger cleared the ball after Courtois' save.
I don't know where Dominisk the reporter got his commentary from but he sure wasn't talking about that particular chance cause it wasn't flagged offside. It's obvious you did not watch the match but relied on hearsay from Dominisk just as I previously observed.
Go back and watch the match and see the chance in the 51st minute. I repeat, 51ST MINUTE
Shots like Tchouameni's almost always result in a goal when goalbound. It was a chance and was counted as a chance for madrid.

I dislike people who will rather lie than accept they were wrong. There was no chance at the 51st minute otherwise the play by play commentary will mention it.

The KDB chance was the one from a Bernardo Silva pass that had him bearing down the RM box from the right till he was 1 v 1 but from the side. Courtois saved it with his right trailing arm but it was ruled offside. That was the 53rd minute. If I did not watch the match tell me how I knew about this chance before bringing evidence from the play by play?

There is nothing like shots from bla bla...a chance is an opportunity that usually results in a converted goal. Long range shots are not chances. They will be recorded as a shot on target but not a chance. Just the same way corner kicks are not recorded as chances even though people sometimes score from them. A chance from a corner will be one in which the player received the ball in the box.

You have now graduated from lying KDB was not offside to pretending you did not hear the commentator say Benzema was offside. Now you have claimed a long range shot was regarded as a chance even though you cannot prove it. You have also claimed RM had more chances but when I ask you for the events and stats to back this, you have provided nothing.

Skrrrrrrr:
Bros, I like your Faith....

The only reason 1 team has a lead in this series is because of the awful refereeing. Very reminiscent of the Raptors series where every GSW run will be ended with giving Kawhi free throws for existing.

I know the rubbish most people have claimed is that the Lakers are driving into the paint while GSW are shooting 3s but that is just lazy analysis that no data backs.

In that game 3 or 4 when the Lakers had taken equal amount of 3s as the warriors in the first half, they had still shot like 15 more FTs for the flimsiest fouls you would ever see called.

You know water don pass garri when Steve Kerr has to field questions on Lakers players flopping all game long. Let's just hope the higher ups care about that big money from game 7 and instruct their refs to cool off on the Lakers-centric refereeing. It is so distasteful to watch as everyone can see it.

pu7pl3:
You won the UCL match against us in your home, the Emptihad last season...
The fact that something happened last season doesn't mean it will repeat itself this season.

Nah, you are the one hoping on history to repeat itself talmbout "We are RM". I am the one judging based on what I have seen from both teams this season and after the first leg.

You are a good team but that was you at your best- at home with a lead and you still did not win the game. I fear for RM. You might suffer your worst ever UCL defeat in history on Wednesday.

Kukutenla:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a7j8v-0PNY

I don't have time for yeye arguments. This is the highlight. Start from 3:00 and see if the KDB chance was ruled offside.

Same with Benz's chance. You're not in a position to call it offside because you don't know more than the linesman who allowed it. You're not seeing the full length of the field. You sound too biased.
How can Tchouameni's shot not be a chance while Rodri's own was. Na wa o

Stop arguing like a child. I don't live in Nigeria and I don't have access to your link.

This is the official UEFA CL highlights from their main partners in North America.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFU1rF6DfWs

Why is the KDB highlight not here?

Listen to what the commentator said about the Benzema highlight as well.

Incase you want to pretend, here is a screenshot from the play by play commentary. You can search it out for yourself. I don't like debating with people who cannot do simple research.

By the way I never said Rodri's was a chance. I asked you to mention the chances RM created and you brought up Tchouameni's shot. It was a highlight reel and long range shot but it is not a chance.

A chance is an opportunity that usually results in a goal. That was not an opportunity that usually results in a goal.

This is OKC vs GSW in 2015-16 all over.

Warriors in 7.

Poole and Klay to have big games in game 6. Poole is definitely due 1.

Steph brings it home in game 7.

pu7pl3:
Those metrics can not be quantified or measured. That's why a 19yr old kid can come on in the 71st minute and score a brace to knock you out and leave you wondering where you went wrong.

You won La Liga last season but this season you won't win it. The fact that something happened last season does not mean it will repeat itself this season.

hopefulLandlord:
because each time we want to play attacking football and blowout the opposition we play that formation, I even gave an example of our 4-0 win against Uefalona. we've NEVER played defensive with that formation This is Real Madrid, we don't need clear chances to score a goal. Look at our goals against you at the Emptihad last season and Benz first goal was out of nothing and even the penalty was from a non dangerous play. all we have to do is get those half chances and take them even Vini's goal yesterday wasn't a clear chance neither was the Rodrygo equaliser at the dying minutes. there were several situations yesterday from the time we scored that the final balls were lacking and that's what I meant. at that point Man Shitty were panicking and uncharacteristically misplacing passes in their own half under little to no pressure while Madrid kept penetrating their midfield with incisive vertical passes and dribbles

we won the tie by the scoreline required. we have the ability to do just about enough to get over the line and that draw isn't really too bad of a result.

also you're pulling a strawman, I didn't say you should be sad for a draw. if I did then kindly point it out.

.Vini would hit that ball and score 9 out of 10 because goalkeepers don't usually expect him to shoot hard which makes them unprepared when he hits them, almost everyone expected him to do us usual dribbling or pick a pass in that position which is why Ederson was caught napping. Courtois saves that ball 9 out of 10 if Madrid players weren't blocking his view when KDB hit it. Courtois is most likely the best goalkeeper when it comes to saving outside shots in the world. this I agree with 100%

courtois saves which ball? Maybe you have forgotten who KDB is. 5 Courtois' will not save that shot. That was a rifle.

Vini on the other hand does not have shot taking in his repertoire. That was the point I was trying to make. He is never that accurate. Pep will allow Vini take that shot 100 times before he allows Modric or Benz. Those are the players who can consistently hit the target with that shot.

The rest of your post about half chances is cut from the same "football heritage" argument. We don't need that many chances to score yet you scored only 1 in your home when you supposedly played well.

It is like you don't remember how City played vs ATM away vs home.

hopefulLandlord:
That's what an advantage is for. Even Kroos in that Bilva goal was waiting to be carded when Bilva took the ball and scored.

An advantage does not stop the YELLOW CARD. Refs are to retroactively issue it.

pu7pl3:
We are above quantifiable metrics, we are Real Madrid and you guys are bottlers...rest

Of course.

Is that not what I have been saying?

"Football heritage"
" We are RM"

Kukutenla:
Which replay showed Benz to be offside when the stats counted that chance as one of Madrid's SoT.
There is soft shot and both Rodri and KDB's are soft shots. An average keeper will be expected to keep both out.
Tchouameni's shot had the right height and power behind it and Ederson had to show strong hands to keep it out.
That particular KDB's shot was never ruled offside.
I don't know which match you watched that it wasn't ruled offside when Camavinga retrieved the ball.
Go and watch the highlights on SS YouTube abeg.
Madrid did not create chances yet City blocked more shots and Madrid had more shots from inside the box than City.
You didn't watch the match. You're depending on hearsay

Listen, what part of the replays showed Benz was offside. The linesman did not see it so his on field corner call was upheld. However, had Benz scored the goal would have been reviewed like all goals are and it would have then been ruled offside.

If those shots from Rodri and KDB were soft, why did Courtois punch it to the corner flag?

I never told you Tchouameni's shot did not have power. I said it was not a chance, and was at a good height for any keeper to save it.

KDBs shot that Courtois saved with his trailing hand was ruled offside or else why did City not get a corner kick from it and why did RM play a goal kick after it?

Just post a screenshot of the shots inside the box column and see the numbers. I have just told you that Benzema's header was counted yet KDBs was not counted.

Oga, better know what you are saying. You have just lied now that the pass from Bernardo to KDB was counted even though it was ruled offside by the linesman.

airmark:
Prove this and support with your accurate image.

Prove the one you started with. Did you not first make a claim?

MorataFC:
Madrid has paid some people here to instil fear in Man City supporters
Kolework

LOL.

It is just fake pessimism. Someone else even claimed he saw Madrid create chances. Ask them the chance they will tell you Benzema's offside header and long range shot from Tchouameni.

darkelf:
Lolll

Whatever make you sleep at night

Pele oo

If we're being honest, na for us to go plan for next season with trades for actual igs..even the guards shouldn't be under 6'6

Who are you again?

Kukutenla:
You're the one who knows him to be offside. I guess you know more than the linesman.
Tchouameni shot was well placed and can't be compared with the soft shots from Rodri and De Bruyne.
Overall, Madrid had more shots and more expected goals than city. That's what the stats say.

Crap.

How many times have linesmen disallowed a goal for being offside but upon review it was given. Case in point, Stone's goal against Arsenal.

The replays showed Benz was offside. Had Benz scored, it would have been reviewed and cancelled.

There is absolutely nothing like soft shot. In both instances, Courtois parried the ball to the corner line. Tchouameni's shot was straight and central. At a good enough height for the keep to parry it away.

Besides, XG is calculated from direct shots that were not reviewed as offside or that did not hit the bar. So that chance that KDB had from Bernardo Silva's pass which Courtois saved was not included. However, if KDB had scored the goal would have stood as KDB was not offside as the linesman had originally ruled.

You better come correct when you are debating me and as you can see, you cannot present the clear scoring chances that RM supposedly created.

airmark:
The onus lies on you to prove it wrong with an official line.

You made the claim that City benefitted from a bad refereeing decision. The onus is on you to prove your claim is true. That is why I asked for VAR proof because that image you are bandying around is from BEIN sports and it is inaccurate.

anungangampu:
city or real. For city its annoying. Real Madrid is a team that needs to be caught off guard. If you keep allowing them to regroup each time, you can't score or win . You need to find a way to keep forcing them to play errors . That's the only way Barcelona do get them.
Those guys like Atletico can have their 11 players at their back for 90mins and still find ways to score.

You are so correct but Pep did not want to lose or give himself a scoreline that would have been hard to overturn. I can guarantee you that City will play differently at the Etihad.

anungangampu:
I was angry at City . They were clueless at final third. Real Madrid only plan was to counter and make sure they are progressing the ball each time they had possession. An Alvarez and Halland would have been a better lineup or an Alvarez sub. Dude is build for this kind of teams .

They were doing what the manager told them to do.

Kukutenla:
You're the one who is struggling to accept reality
The stats don't support your claim that City dominated in all depts

Hope you know that Benz was offside and the goal would have been ruled off had he scored?

Tchouameni shot from long range is not a chance. Otherwise, the shots from KDB and Rodri in the first half are equal chances and even better.

pu7pl3:
Okay so everything is objectively pointing towards Man city knocking us out abi?

If you have another quantifiable metric to use please provide it.

"Football heritage" and "We are RM" don't hold water.

PurpLChi:
We haven't beaten Pep at the Etihad before...fine
There is a afirst time for everything.

Android17

Of course there is. And I am not saying it is impossible. I am saying there is no data backing that and nothing we can objectively see that is pointing us in that direction.

Warriors in 7. Don't forget folks.

airmark:
Show your own line that's not fake.

I don't need my own line. The line you are showing is not even from VAR. So what makes you think it is correct?

Sportsweb:
You are a funny guy. Goal is Goal

Madrid can even use own goal to win Man City that day. That match is 50/50.

Madrid is a crooked team In UCL. They win both dirty and clean.

I never said a goal is not a goal. I am showing that there was nothing 'tactical' about scoring from corners and set pieces.

And this 50/50 talk is just wishy washy make believe stuff. There is no away goals so the home team don't need to fear to concede. 1 of the 2 teams has the better home record spanning 5 years now and are currently in good form. And lastly, one of the teams is better.

No matter how slender, City has the slight advantage. But I am not surprised. Some people here were still predicting Bayern could overturn a 3-0 deficit because of football heritage.

hopefulLandlord:
There's nothing masterclass about what Pep did, he was just confused cuz he didn't expect Real to play the way they did. when he saw real starting the likes of Rodrygo with Kroos playing DM he expected Real to come out for a toe to toe fight like we did against Uefalona at the Camp Nou in our 4-0 victory cuz that's the same formation we used but we didn't. he was just lucky we didn't get a second goal before their equaliser cuz we would've killed the tie right there in the first leg. Man City before the equaliser were already looking like they were panicking

There is alot of bluster in this.

First, nobody mentioned a masterclass. I said it was by design because that is how City intended to play. Bernardo was clearly instructed to not commit to taking on Camavinga because he was going to be needed in tracking back to help Walker mark Vini. That is why he 80% of the time passed the ball back to Walker where he would naturally commit to dribbling like he did against Alphonso Davies of Bayern in the first leg.

Second, I am not at Pep's level and I would have picked out the very same RM side without missing a beat. You may not like to hear it often but your team is awfully predictable with the same pattern of play from last season. What stands you out in such games is your calm nerves that have obviously come from a history of winnings. So if your formation and pattern of play did not surprise me, how in the world do you think anything yesterday surprised Pep? Hahaha

In case you have not been following, City played the very same way against Leipzig. I remember being frustrated as the players won't commit when it was 1-1. It was after the game, having listened to how cheerful Pep was that I knew he wanted his players to play that way. If in doubt, you can listen to Grealish's recent interviews where he said Pep told him specifically to take the ball against Bayern (2nd leg) and dribble, waste time and basically slow the game down. Pep did not want the game to be chaotic which would have favored a home team.

If you know anything about the way City presses, you will know that City did not try the full press yesterday and slowed down any opportunities to attack quickly. Gundo and Stones were chief culprits in this. They would get into attacking positions and then ponderously retract, looking for the safest horizontal pass and allowing RM re-set the 7 man defence you guys were playing. That was Pep neutralizing your danger on the counter attack.

Speaking of which, all these talk about 2nd goal, can you actually mention 1 chance you created and should have scored from? Don't bother talking about Benzema's header as he was stone cold offside. The reason the refs did not call it is because he did not score from it. So I am curious. Please tell us the clear chance you created that should have been a goal for you?

It is only on NL that an away team should feel bad that they did not lose to a team of the stature of RM. I thought you won this same tie 3-1 last season. Why are you now pretending it makes no difference? If it does not, tell us when you have ever beat City at the Etihad under Pep.

The reality is your goal came against the run of play and given it was Vini that scored, he could have taken that same shot 9 more times and all would have been misses. But you cannot bet against KDB scoring that same chance 5 out of 10 times. The facts are stubborn.

Don't worry on Wednesday, we shall see if Pep was confused or if City played differently yesterday.

hopefulLandlord:
Lmao! a free kick outside the box? was that the one which referee decided to give an advantage because the ball still went to a city player? "if" that's the case then I'd have to remind you that last season your fourth goal at the Emptihad came when Zinchenko was fouled by Kroos at the edge of the 18, ref then put his whistle in his mouth and motioned like he was to give a free kick which made real Madrid players stop going after the ball but ref stopped at the last millisecond when he saw Bernardo got the ball then signalled "play on" with both hands AFTER the ball had hit the net. you can go back to the clip again to prove me wrong. never in my life have I seen a ref signal play on after a goal

and funny how you talked about deserved yellows that weren't given cuz it happened to both set of teams

The freekick would have seen Camavinga yellow carded. That is why it was important. By not revisiting that play, he let Cama escape a sure-fire yellow that would have made him play with caution for the rest of the game.

popizaino:
It doesn't work that way,most especially in the UCL and for real madrid. Like someone said,they are the exception to every rule in the UCL including Chelsea. You can play the first leg very well and end up losing the second leg foolishly.

Those who analysed Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich in 2014 season thought Pep Guardiola was going to blow them away at Allianz Arena only for Arjen Robben to claim Ronaldo and Bale were flying after losing 0-4 at home.

Are we talking about Manchester City or another team? Did Bayern not even lose the first leg of that tie you are talking about? Besides, is that game not the one that 2 goals came from a corner kick and another from a CR7 freekick?

I think we are talking about 2 different things entirely.

Ibunkun1:
If you win it won't be because of any yeye "home form", it will be because you played well with a strong mentality not to crumble at crucial moments like you did last season. Dey there dey from Mr Lecturer

So what are you saying? If a team wins is it not because they most likely played well and had a good mentality?

You are trying to sound like you know what you are talking about but you don't.

The reason you think City are better than your team is because there is an objective way to decide it: Their league record. It is the same reason bookmakers might favour one team over the other in terms of odds.

So sit down and think objectively. City's home record is another objective way of deciding why they would have the advantage. It is because they "statistically" never lose there.

Ibunkun1:
Your stubbornness dey amuse me. You didn't answer my questions self. Chelsea will lose to city not just because of "City's home form". It's because they are better than us in football and mentality at the moment. The football you play might be a bit better than Real's but certainly not the mentality. My point is your home form notwithstanding if there's a team that can win you at home it's Real Madrid based on their mentality and affinity with CL. If that is not enough objectivity for you it's ok

How did you decide that City are better than you?

We are making progress.

Peacecore:
There are still enough men on the bench to handle that match and as well enough time to rest( ie till Saturday)

I agree sha.

Peacecore:
One thing u should know is that those guys has been soaked in the game that they're giving their last breathe to defend their draw. Bringing in a fresh leg may change the tune and the idea

But we need some of those legs against Everton abi we no want win league ni?