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Aprokodaughter:
BRP is needed when applying for NI. Right now that nairalander can't apply for NI number.

In this economy that there’s no job talk less or student job? Let the person find the job first then come and complain she got the job but no NI.

You don’t need NI to apply for a job (if needed it would be optional), you only need the NI if you get the job. Then all of us will join and pray again the village people together. MFM style.

peterveo:
I can't open a normal account, get NI, or register with GP. The date of my transit vignette will soon expire. Is that not enough distress?

Sweetheart, I applied for my visa since October, I haven’t even gotten email from them to acknowledge that they have received my application. Please relax.

If anyone doubts your right to work or reside, give them home office number to call or that apology email/letter. Shikena. I panicked a little at some point of mine but then I realised that Covid hit even the govt.

Relax.

wallg123:
Sometimes make you put yourself in peoples shoes ...
How would they show that they have right to be in the country legally?
How would they get a job without that BRT?
If them never open bank without proof of her legal status ?...

My dear continue contacting the home office,
Go online to : https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/home-office/about/complaints-procedure

You don’t need a BRP to open a bank account. If needed the school can help out.
If they need a job, the apology letter that Home Office sent can suffice. They don’t owe anyone anyone a BRP to prove their Right to be in the country, when the issuers of that right already said they can’t give you yet. All the person has to do is show the email/letter. Period.

LagosismyHome:
If the school said you should let them handle it why don't you trust that ...... I guess it's the way Nigeria don deal with person that gives some trust issues

However since you got in since Oct then that a long time. However covid is also impacting many timelines. I dont see any harm in contacting home office yourself as well..... yes yes call them .

This is pandemic time so any hiccups you just have to be patient even if you need it to find work/ get NI) . Covid era / pandemic needs plan A , B and C as things can go not as planned

I wish I could like your comment more than once. I feel for her but you’re absolutely right, it’s distrust.

If the poster needs the BRP to work, they just has to show the apology letter that Home Office sent. If school is aware, the poster is covered. I don’t see any reason else the person would panic.

Chreze:
Hi,

so I just want to point out this “ Maybe it’s cos I don’t have children”. I have seen you use something similar to that line and after the line, you add accurate/real advice which are very right in the given situation at the time of usage. I think you don’t have to add that line anymore as there are not much difference with people with “kid” n “without kid”, for me it’s just a simple difference and I will make it short:

When we make plans, we have different option to actualize our goal, but lets work with just 3 options: good option, better option, and best option. This options are based on so many factor, in most cases Cash is the determining factor followed by safety (depending on who’s planning), it would have been safety first, but being from a struggling country, we tend to put money first before security.

For people “without kids” there are that three options depending on personality. But for people “with kids” it’s just one option which is the best option, because kid(s) don’t know that our Nigeria or the world is a hustle, so you tend to make it easier for them, so that they make it easier for you too. That said, your advice is always on point since it’s always the best option for oneself.

With this point of mine, I hope I have been able to convince you but not to confuse you that science class is better than commercials class... thank you

I can’t believe how hard I laughed when I got to the end

My dear, I have to state my situation o, because not having children makes things a bit easier, as I now care only about me. I believe having children makes things a lot different.

So I state my situation to let people not attack me as being “selfish”, and giving them advice without understanding their situation (Just in case they think my situation is different from theirs).

If a single person gives advice to married people, what is the next thing people would say?

Exactly.

moetariq:
My people, I am going to Nottingham around Jan 9, 2021 with my wife and 3 kids, the issue is I have been trying to get a 3 bedroom flat from Nottingham to Derby to no avail. Most agents/landlords want employed people. My sister and her hubby there cant even secure a viewing, they live in a small 2 bed flat, that once the agents hear its a PG student with family, they say sorry they don't lease to students. Pls advise. I need a place to land with my family even if na 2 bedroom. I have a boy (10) and 2 girls (8 and 5).

Maybe it’s cos I don’t have children, but I don’t understand why anyone will travel with husband and two children to a new place, without securing a place to stay first.

All of you in the family already got visa, they won’t lose the visa if they wait in Nigeria for one month, while you go and find a place to stay.

It’s easier.

You can then stay in Airbnb while searching for a home, acclimatising to weather and understanding the area.

Mimzyy:
So Barclays decided to be unfortunate today and blocked my account. I didn’t even realise until I went grocery shopping and wanted to pay. Thank God for alternative bank accounts!!!

I called the number and was told it will take 7 working days for them to unblock it. The rep couldn’t give a plausible explanation as regards why it happened. He asked me silly questions like did I receive a lump sum recently and I told him I did and I have proof of its legitimacy so kiwani problem yin

Is that a reason for my account to be flagged

He however, gave me an alternative to go over the counter tomorrow to withdraw my money. God knows I’m withdrawing every penny there. Rubbish bank.

Hehehe! My dad paid some money into my account when I was a student, that’s how Barclays put a flag on my account o. For almost 3 years, I didn’t know, one day I called to ask to upgrade my account from student, that’s how the advisor mistakenly let slip that there was a flag on my account.

As I ended the call, I opened bank with FD. I can’t shout.

No vex too much, open another bank.

Lexusgs430:
NHS test is no longer acceptable by Airlines(according to some contributions on this thread) ....... It's not easy to go enjoy Xmas for 9ja.......

Boyz must chop........

Flew in Oct, mine was accepted. So unless someone flew between then and now and had a different experience, NHS is accepted by Turkish

Phenmeson:
Clothes, egusi, ground pepper, ogbono etc, she can activate her 9ja Internet & mobile banking. I have cheap onions to sell. Lastly she, must not 4get to carry her passport

haba!

Swiftylistic:
Hi house.

I have bn granted a tier 4 visa, resuming in January. My question now is how easy is it for me to get ILR visa and what are the necessary steps to take incase i don't find a job that's willing to sponsor my stay.

You haven’t even started the tier 4, you’re already thinking of ILR that will take 10 years on that tier 4


I like how goal-oriented you are

icon8:
Your employer can read. You don’t have to use all the names on your BC on every document. The guy everyone knows as Boris Johnson was born Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, but is mostly referred to as only 2 of those 5 names.

Lol me that has 5 names on my birth certificate

Phenmeson:
Was a victim of o2 sim. Was sleeping jejely b4 they called me to take sim only contact of £8 monthly. I was making free calls of Lyca to Lyca na Lebara to Lebara without any issue. After taking o2 sim contract, i was calling friend that also uses o2 sim thinking is a free call on my package. At the end of the month, I saw a bill of £180. I refused not to pay it, they suspended my outgoing calls, SMS & data. I was told it was my responsibility not to exceed my monthly minutes and that my package does not allow free o2 to o2 calls. I just chill and pay off the money and beg them just to cancel my contract and anything with them. Na do I japa ooo

Wow! Sorry dear. Even 02 to 02 wasn’t free? Thieves!

Lexusgs430:
The easiest way would have been to set a £70.00, maximum limit on that line ..........

The only place I would roam my sim, would be on my Europe tours......... I no fit shout........

Goodluck with the ombudsman...... Did you read the terms and conditions of their roaming policies?....

I didn’t even know I could set up a limit. Thanks.

Nope didn’t read terms (who does but there weren’t any terms as it was an add-on). the only terms that were there was the notification that it’s a per minute billing. But that’s not my fight with them.

They actually offered 50% off but I turned it down, that it must be 100% cos it’s not my bill as I was not notified. (working in customer care helped me to know my consumer rights! Hehe)

I still like EE sha I’ve not made up my mind whether to leave them or not.

walesho:
EE is most expensive service provider in the UK

They are absolute trash. I’m taking them to the ombudsman.

Let me even give you people the gist.

I had to roam my sim cos I was expecting calls from UK, so I paid for 30 minutes to use while in Nigeria. Na so I reach Naija, I was making calls to my bank, bae and mother-in-law back in UK.

I was enjoying myself while waiting for 30 mins to finish, I no get alert. Only for me to want to check my EE app and saw bill of £230. I just laughed- It gats be joke. These people use their full chest to charge me £300. Apparently, the calls were per minute, so 2seconds flash counted as 1 min.

I didn’t talk, I got back, called EE and asked them how far. They say it’s my bill, I said na lie. That why didn’t they notify me, that it goes against fairness and transparency. They said it’s my business, that I should have checked the app. I now asked them if they gave me mobile data or stop watch.

I reminded them that it goes against consumer act (fairness and transparency), that they can’t charge me for what I wasn’t notified of, because it then becomes hidden charges; that’s why bank always notify you when you enter overdraft- they won’t just keep quiet and charge you interest.

I just dey here dey wait outcome
I like trouble sha

Chukwuka16:
That was a red flag and a reason for caution by anyone who still remembers what Pfizer did in Northern Nigeria when they used kids as guinea pigs for drug trials.

Even Switzerland says they would wait months to both conduct extensive reviews and observe effects from countries around the world - thats another red flag.

I absolutely support all you’ve said but let me play the devils advocate.

If you were a Pharma company, would you be happy to find a cure if you know that you would be sued for millions of pounds, if a patient does during trials?

The govt is desperate for a cure (yes they are also greedy), which is why the govt reduced the restrictions; so pharma companies can do as much investigations to find a cure.

No matter how much lab work is done, they need to test on humans, and if they will get sued, they won’t want to participate in finding the cure.

Chukwuka16:
Humanity has never had it this bad - irresponsible leadership across board.

Imagine how the UK (MHRA) shamelessly rushed approval for first position. They had to use diplomatic channels to force Fauci to recant his earlier bashing of the MHRA. Nonsense.

Imagine the nonsense surrounding the AstraZeneca and Oxford vaccine and how they attempted to use optics to lie about the efficiency. They got 62% for general trial (over 20k and across all age groups) and 90% for 3k people under 65 and did an averaging to get 70%.

If they weren't called out we would think they were as efficient as the others. I even read that BoJo was requesting that the union jack be put on the bottles, what nonsense.

Its quite a pitiable state. Confusion everywhere. Rudderless leadership and a cornucopia of inept leaders is what the UK has been blessed with.

20 years from now we would look back and weep when we observe how bad decisions resulted in mass damage of humans all in the name of science. Unfortunately, the govt is owning more of its citizens - increasing population on benefits/support and rising household debts. These give the govt some leeway in forcing through mandatory policies while using the fear of joblessness or homelessness to coerce compliance.

Unfortunately, 20 years from now many of the culprits will be resting in their graves as celebrated heros. Nonsense.

Wow you’re really upset o! Lol. I just see myself as a visitor in UK. Their politics is their business. The Nigerian govt gives me too much headache to worry about the UK;

at least UK has constant power.

TheLasyBuddha:
Quick question, please.
A friend of mine would have her certificate mailed from the UK as she has been awarded a degree. She has been asked to choose a courier service: either DHL or Royal Mail. The DHL would offer a tracking service, which would cost her £20 while the Royal Mail wouldn't offer a tracking service.

Would you advise she use Royal Mail instead of DHL as her certificate would reach her still or she should use the DHL service?

It’s like your sweet friend doesn’t like her certificate. Royal Mail will handover to NIPOST. So do the maths.

TheGuyFromHR:
Lol.
Again, not quite correct.
The passport came into use before you could use it as a form of cross-border identification without crossing any borders like in the example you mentioned.

Put differently - the passport's primary use is as a travel document; its use as a means of identification in domestic or international settings is purely secondary.

Why do you think it is allowed for travel? Because another country recognises a passport due to it being an international form of IDENTIFICATION.

As far as you need to declare who you are outside your nationality, you need an international passport. “Travel” is an application; not the reason that passports were made. Once you’re identified, you can then cross borders if you have a valid visa or right to entry.

Further proof of my explanation is the fact the the BRP is now separate from the passport. When you get to a border officer, they look at your passport to identify you, then look at your BRP to allow you entry. They don’t use your passport to allow you entry.

TheGuyFromHR:
Lol, not entirely correct.
As an "international form of identification", a passport is indeed solely intended for travel between countries.
Of course, some countries allow travel on other forms of identification, but when one goes to apply for a passport, the assumed intention is that borders are to be crossed therewith.

It’s precisely because it is a form of international identification, that it’s used for travel. So the primary reason for a passport is to identify yourself internationally, not to travel. Travelling is just an application of this ID. Applying for loans is an application. Creating a bank account is an application, etc. I can stay in my room in Nigeria and apply to open a bank account abroad, because of that ID.

Mamatukwas:
Hehehe, have you forgotten that my weak attempt at vexing for the bros that came and wanted to divorce his wife soon after landing for refusal to ‘clean’ the house while pregnant amongst other indiscretions ; was definitely on the list of most annoying things I’d seen on this thread that year.

Oooh! Yes! I had made respect for many of the ladies here after that saga

TheGuyFromHR:
That opinion too is worthless.
As a holder of that opinion, gives insight into the holder.

My opinion.

Modified: Perhaps all those defending the document should have asked first why the holder concluded the document was worthless (treatment received at a couple of Nigerian embassies) before reaching that realisation.

The immense joy I get when I see fight on nairaland this lockdown has done me strong thing. It’s like watching reality tv

TheGuyFromHR:
That's what passports are usually used for.
Accessing foreign countries.
Your reasoning is flawed, not mine.

Ok no o, it’s an international form of identification. Accessing countries is a bonus based on relationship between countries. It’s just a bonus, not a right.

A “national” ID card is for the nation. A passport is for “interNation”. Whether or not you have access to other countries with your passport is based on diplomacy not the value (e.g an Israeli can’t go to most Islamic countries, doesn’t mean the passport has no value).

I just enjoyed your diss because I like insulting Nigeria until they Change the president.

Mamatukwas:
‘Worthless’ 32 sheets that saved you from a tight spot and the repercussions of mild drunkenness. I know our Country has its issues but it’s not Worthless. Neither is it’s passport.

Let’s be mindful of our language please.

Hahaha I don’t think I’ve ever seen you vex on this page

TheGuyFromHR:
Lol, save your money.
I was once sent to work for my company abroad for a short period. One night I overdid the happy hour thing and lost my temporary ID card. For some reason I wasn't issued another for a very long time (almost until I was leaving) and had to use my passport to identify myself everyday. I carried that green piece of 32 worthless sheets of paper around in my front/back/inner pocket for some weeks, rough-handled it and got it twisted, sat on, bent, you-name it, and I still dey use am now.

OmG I’m offended on behalf of Nigeria

Do you know that that green passport can allow you to enter Nigeria- seemlessly- no questions asked? Hahaha

missjekyll:
My dear Susom,it does look you have been had. they cannot collect advance rent in excess of 5 weeks rent.
The law changed in July 2019. I know you may not want to raise dust seeing how hard it was for you to get a place. But I m just putting it on record here.

Some places ask for 6 months especially from international students because those students won’t have a guarantor. So I wouldn’t say that this person has been “had”.

Nessa29:
Hi guys, compliments of the season. My son and I are going to renew next year. Pls someone point me out to requirements again. It expires 17th June, please when is it the best time to apply? I have been thinking about it oh as if it’s already Tomorrow, Lool. Thank you, and how much is the fee and health surcharge. Thank you oh

Apply 30 days to expiry.

Health surcharge cost for Jun next year is unknown. Even if I tell you how much it costs now, it may increase next year.

oxygyne:
Hello Ladies and Gents,

Trust we are all doing well and keeping safe in the current climate (i.e Covid-19). It is going to be Christmas soon, hopefully it brings much needed joy and laughter to our homes.

A quick query, is it ok to use downloaded utility bills (i.e. SSE, BT, Anglian water) or do they all have to be posted to the house for it to be used for the application? Bearing in mind that the online bills are exactly the same as what you receive in the mail.

Need to be sure, please.

Thanks in advance.

Downloading then is even better because you’ll upload them to the system anyway. If you get the paper copy, you’ll have scan then upload to the UKVAS system.

Aprokodaughter:
Na everyday una dey fight for this thread una no dey tire for arguments and insults?


And the bad thing is that you guys don't even take corrections just be arguing with no aim. Everyone wants to be correct.

I’m guilty of this. Sorry. I will be better

Jayvallia:
Lol Oga stop arguing. Even if you are buying a land from your father, you are required to do your due diligence because situations change very quickly. Even if the king assures you that the land belongs to him you still need to go to the land registry and make findings. Trace the origin of the land and any contrary claims on it. After buying it you also register your purchase at the registry. Now your father has contacted a lawyer to sue the king. This could have been avoided if he had engaged a lawyer initially or atleast made the process easier for your father. The lawyer would have taken steps to make it difficult for another person to buy the land without losing their money. Now that money wey una no wan give lawyer una go give am x10.

Sorry for being rude. What steps can a lawyer take towards finding information that a land has been previously sold, that a normal person can’t do? Abi lawyers in Nigeria have super powers? Or a land database that the common man doesn’t have?

In uk, you are advised to get a lawyer to handle the agreement so there aren’t delays. Not so the lawyer will magically smell fraud, because The same questions the lawyer will ask is the same you will ask when doing due diligence. The same database the lawyers check, you can check it too. It’s not by force to have a lawyer inspect the property. Lawyers are only important when it’s time to draft agreements/contracts- which is still optional. Why must it be different in Nigeria? Buying land should be straightforward.

You’re insulting people that have been swindled and glorifying hardship/suffering just to make a claim that a lawyer should be involved. there should be laws in the country to prevent double sale or a database to allow the common man do due dilligence properly.

Jayvallia:
Lol Oga stop arguing. Even if you are buying a land from your father, you are required to do your due diligence because situations change very quickly. Even if the king assures you that the land belongs to him you still need to go to the land registry and make findings. Trace the origin of the land and any contrary claims on it. After buying it you also register your purchase at the registry. Now your father has contacted a lawyer to sue the king. This could have been avoided if he had engaged a lawyer initially or atleast made the process easier for your father. The lawyer would have taken steps to make it difficult for another person to buy the land without losing their money. Now that money wey una no wan give lawyer una go give am x10.

Lol I actually get offended when someone that doesn’t know that Aphrodite is the name of a “goddess” wants to argue with me. Even if you didn’t know, can’t you see the “f” beside my moniker?

I don’t argue with people with aren’t up to par with my intelligence. Please shift. Worse still, you even had the audacity to type epistle, for who to read? Abeg!

erico2k2:
Due diligence is paying a quality lawyer to do the investigation and all red tape for you! every land I have bought in Nigeria I have even at the point of inspection gone with my lawyer each time. Every stage is documented and filed! There is a sure way to buy land in Nigeria and if your lawyer sense foul play ahead he/she will advise you to leave it!

It’s very easy to sit on a fence and point out someone’s fault.

This isn’t the first land he has bought in the same state. If the king told my dad that he was the owner of the land, he would have told the lawyer the same thing. I don’t know the details of what transpired cos I was abroad then, but I’m sure my dad did his due diligence; the same way lots of people do due diligence when buying land but still get duped.