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Obudupikin:
In as much as I am #teamRussia and #anti-america,I need a source for this article.

You really don't need a source for this news. Its no longer news that the US and its accomplice in crime states have been airdropping weapons for ISIS since the war began. Google is free. Even Steven Wonders knew that the ISIS, Al qaeda, etc, are all pet projects and missions of the CIA, to further their ''divide and conquer'' course. Can you imagine that the US, known to be the most powerful and largest conventional force in the world, said it ''ran out of ammos'', and so could not take out ISIS oil convoys in Syria? Yet, this was the same nation that can fight two wars at the same time in , but suddenly could not find ammos to bomb ordinary queue of tankers. I sorry for those applauding them. The US have never meant to fight ISIS, and that is a fact! Even its allies are doing the same thing. How many strikes have the RAF in Syria carried out since joining the evil over there? As at middle of last month, it was only three. Just imagine. I don't know if they have added more sorties though. But one thing is certain: the only nation (apart from the the affected States - Iraq and Syria) that is fighting and affecting terrorism, is none but Russia. That is why Iraq is begging them to come and start air strikes in that country. That is also why the Afghan government is considering Russian help against the Taliban.

The US have never been fighting terrorism. The so-called war on terror is a hoax ab initio!

oyalunasamuel:
Thank you very much bro, this is actually a life line because i know exactly who to right. My friend says he is expecting a letter from the hospital in a couple of weeks time to so as do aid fund raising i think thats a nice place to start from. all the same thank you very much

Thats good to hear. I wish you guys well.

Macelliot7:
Sunni vs. Shia conflit...

Though, Nigeria is a majority Sunni-muslim country...

Nigeria is not a muslim country. I believe you are refering to the north mainly. Even over ther, there are still many christians.

I don't have cash to offer you, but all i have is in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, your friend's wife will rise again,amen.

If you are that determine to raise funds, i will advice that you guys go on tv and plead for help, especially on stations like Channels tv, NTA, AIT, Silverbird, etc. And also visit prominent churches. You guys can also write to some NGOs, especially those run by the UN, and you may also write to some prominent individuals like Dangote, Senators, especially the one representing their constituency, as well as government personel, like the Governor or the first Lady of the State concerned. Remember to put them all in prayers. You never can tell where favour may come from. Thats all i can offer. God bless you and grant your friend's wife the bread of healing, in Jesus Name, Amen!

floragregs:
That's how to identify ogbanje in my place! They should use palm frond to flog manners into her.

What if the ''ogbanje'' is telling the truth? The character exhibited by the aforemention men of God, in line with their teachings, further lend credence to what this little girl just said. We shall always know them by their fruites.

scully95:
You are on point as usual.. After reading Saker's post on the Saudi Arabia demonic plan which i also partially agree with. I have a strong feeling this is all about Syria and always been. The simple truth is, they need to take out Syria first and Iran will be almost or if not completely Issolated.

A big war with Iran now is a no go area for Saudi arabia or even U.S. This is a known fact, another Suicide or version to this, U.S may have decided to foregone Saudi Arabia. And in my oppinion, Saudi will follow the same fate as Iraq. But this is less likely to happen.

I think the empire has stepped up its strategy and it's continuation of Syria must fall to its axis first before a full scale war can be launched with Iran.. This has been their strategy even with NAtO. They beleive in encirclement ideology.

I said it in one of my comments when Turkey shut down Russia's Su-24.. I wrote something like 'still waiting for the role Saudi will play'. Now this is Saudi playing its own side of the war card forming 34 countries to help in the fight in Syria which we all know it will be on the side of ISIS while the crook media continue to twist it.

It's even sad that Saudi arabia can not even take on the poorest country in the middle east. Yemen, you now expect the same Saudi Arabia of Wahhabi crazies to face Iran ?? That is suicide mission and Iraq will repeat itself again 100% while Saudi will turn to another Iraq. It may even be deadlier. Again the end result would be Iran becomes Stronger. Iran became stronger after the war with Iraq. WHich U.S was siding with Iraq to go into war with Iran.. What happened to Iraq's Saddam after that ? He was hanged (Why.. Simple logic).. Even Syria we see today was used as forward base to invad Iraq.. What is happening to Syria today ? ( It's a strategy that is now opened to the naked Eye). The RUssians know this, the Iranians also do and is the reason they have been fighting this wahabis crooks in Syria. Syria to them must not fall.

They are just stepping up their games and now directing those 34 country forces' enegery at the their opponents in Syria probably their last card on the table. If that is defeated, Saudi will still fall. Saudi is on a time bomb just waiting to explode and sooner or later it will.

Yeah! I am in total agreement with your thesis. If you take a good look and vigorously analyse the situation of things in Syria, you will discover a sense of frustration among the ranks of the hegemon, most especially with the US and Saudi Arabia. The Russian presence in Syria have so much turn the table around that they cant even hide frustration anymore. The US is now complaining bitterly as more and more of its aids and supports for so-called moderate rebels and ISIS, keeps coming, only to be destroyed by Russian/Syrian air power. All Saudi fundings for the Syrian terrorist now appears to be more of a waste, as they are being pumelled from the air and ground, to the extent that some of them are now leaving under truce after loosing territories once held. The cost of intervention in Yemen and support renders in Syria, is now reflecting negetively on the Saudi economy. Frustrating really!
Turkey can't fly its planes in Syria anymore for obvious reasons; plus the Russian sanctions gradually taking its toll on the already volatile economy. Recently they admitted that the Russian sanctions would slow down the economy. The Saudi arab coalition against terror, is only a sham meant to save face, it will never work. The recent spat with Iran is only an indicator to that effect.
So, when you look at it from this angle, you can see why at the end, it would be a win-win scenario for Russia and Assad, as far as Syria is concern: and going by ur analysis, it seems that Saudi Arabia is playing its last card, since it can not get involve overtly without risking a heavy Russian and Iranian retaliation. Hence, we can expect more frustrations to follow, and consequently, an uptick in hostilities over Syria.

Missy89:
Come on now. We both know there will be bread lines in Russia if she attempts to build 10 carriers doctrine or no doctrine

But I get ur point. They do have the technology too

Breadline. Funny you. Well, i got ur point as well. Finance was always an issue.

MosquitoLaps:
War on one part of the world is a time for business boom in another
Buhari, be wise o!

By the way, since they've severed ties, what will happen to the Syrian civil war?
Nairaminted and Appleyard, get in here and talk to your students.

Yeah! There is a saying that when two elephants are slugging it out, it is the innocent grass that suffers. I have said before now that the MidEast is a time bomb waiting to explode, and this work-in-progress tit for tat spat between Satan Arabia and Iran, might just turn out to be the last count on the bomb.

I see blood bank in the God forsaken and Satan rejected MidEast!

Why? We are talking of a confrontation that could spiral out of control because of the calibre of nations involved. These are the two most powerful states in the Gulf, and each pride themselves as the fountain and defender of their respective islamic sects - with Iran as the pride of Shiite muslims, while the kingdom of Satan Arabia represent the keeper of sunni islam. To say that things could get worse, is an under statement. Infact, they are already getting worse and hotter. From Syria to Yemen, Lebanon and Bahrain, the proxy war between these two children of chaos, is taken its toll in the whole region. And with this current stand off, one can expect more secterian violence in the aforementioned countries, as well as in Africa, increase ops in Syria etc, all of which could easily result in direct military show down between this two hot headed sons of islam, which would in turn have devastating consequencies for the global economy, particular with the EU, as more and more refugees would flood centre Europe, a place already suffocating from Syrian and North Africa migrant influx. Such a conflict could also lead to the much feared WW3, especially if major powers like the United States of Atrocities (having Iran in mind) and Russia (having the house of Saud in mind,) both get involved, even from behind closed doors, It can still easily get blown into a full confrontation, and we all know what that would mean to the world.

Nevertheless, a war between two major oil producers would send shock waves through the global economy, especially when it is still fighting its way up from the last recession, while struggling not to fall back the ladder. But such a war could also be a blessing to some nations - particularly those that relies on oil as a major source of national income, vis the current price of crude in the international market. Infact, i can see some countries eyes already burgeing out of their sockets with greed, and with tongues salivating with bathed breath and expectation to have a 2nd taste of excess crude account, as global prices would definitly go up in rapture to meet their lord of host - Nigeria, Russia, Angola, Brazil, Venezuella, Qatar, Gabon, and many more. I wont be surprised if any of such nations engaged in activities that could further exercabate the ungoing feud between the two sects. And given the proximity of islamic fundamentalism in relation to its followers fanaticism based on sectarian ideology, you can bet your last dime that such a trap and psyOP would easily work, not to mention that the region is already a hotbed of hostilities. Though it will all depend on what the ''elites'' who runs the show and own the multi-nationals want.

Some nations will always remain a catalyst to the success or downfall of others as played and determine by the dark knights in the shadow.

Yeah! What is another man's meat, would always be another man's poison.

Man is in deed, an animal.

Missy89:
Life is good thanks.

Point is, US companies collude with the SU and indirectly helped the soviets mirv. Besides Russia's "superior" missile tech has nothing to do with lack of expertise in the west but military doctrine on both sides.

Happy new year.

Same to you!

I have heard that story before, and it may totally be true or partly so, considering the Spy network and infiltration capability of the SU back then. But one readily available, yet overlooked fact, was that, prior to the 1975 success, the Soviet quest to achieving MIRV/NUKE, was already in motion before, during and after WW2 - especially when George Flyorov, a physicist, wrote Joseph Stalin, urging him to kick start such project, because there is a long held suspicion, based on intelligence, that some allied states are secretly working on such related program, in the aftermath of nuclear fission discovery. That was the birth of the program. It was however, not vigoriously pursued as a result of the war. But the US bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, was the eye opener, which further doubled the Soviet efforts to go nuclear and achieving such MIRV's capability. To this end, the Soviet success was mostly aided by the Soviet Alsos, which exploited German atomic related facilities, intellectual materials, material resources and scientific personnel. I believe the SU got most of its ideas in relation to MIRV/Nukes from German scientific works, especially after conquering Germany. That was one of the many gains of first entering Berling. They probably were able to get hold first on some state secrets. Nevertheless, you also can't relegate the impact of Espionage, with the Mahattan Project acting as the dark knight for Moscow's quest for parity. Which ever way one looks at it, Moscow was always going to have such capability. The big boys always do.

And yes, Moscow superiority to this regard, is mostly down to military doctrine, and not lack of expertise in the west - same way the west and its cronie fan club should understand that Russia's non pursuit of gigantic carriers and 100s of military bases, is ONLY as a result of a military doctrine centered on rocket, and EW technology, as relatively cheaper alternatives, and NOT AS A RESULT OF LACK OF EXPERTISF as the west have always wanted us to believe.
Its all about strategy.

mazeltov:
Yea, Russia have a chilling comparative advantage of producing and equipping missiles with heavy warheads than any other country around the globe. No doubt about that. That reminds me of deadly Satanic missiles with 10 MIRV and 750KT per payload.
It can wipe off three states in America completely and if New york is bigger than Nigeria, then a single blast of SS-18 in Africa can wipe off at least four countries like Ghana, Cameron, Nigeria and Togo would just be additional.
My brother, war is boring!!!

My Dear fellow Nigerian! To say war is boring, is like euphemising the ugly notion of death. War is sickening and unfathomably repulsive. And those who pride in it and thrive on it, are the most diabolic and mentally derailed set of humans on this dying planet of ours. I tell you: Man is a failed project.

Missy89:
do you know the story of how the Soviet Union was able to MIRV ?

Which story? That Multiple targetable Reentry Vehicle was first designed by the US (1970), then the Soviet Union (1975), France (1979), Britain (1985), China (2007), and Isreal (2008):_ thus making the US better off, or what? Or was it that they were able to ''steal'' and went MIRV, after Nixon proposed a ban on them in a scheduled strategic talk with the SU, but which failed after his national security adviser, Henry Kissinger, loaded the proposals with alot of unacceptable terms/conditions that were refused by the Soviets, who then went on to build their's?

Your brother would like to know.

Happy new year. How is life yonder side?

mazeltov:
Hiaa!! Bro, honestly you are funny!!
Russia is in better position of producing MIRVs warheads with heavy payload than any other country in the world, not even America can match it. As a matter of fact, America only balance this disadvantage with their Ohio-class Trident-D5 SLBM and that is the only American Nuclear deterrent after they retired their LGM-PeacKeeper missile.
Although Topol-M is an ICBM and not a cruise missle like Isreali Popoye but comparing Topol-M with Popoye-Turbo is like comparing Tiper with Porsche car .
- Topol-M is has re-entry vehicle.
- Its payload is 800kT
- It is about ''times'' x53 of the bomb dropped in Hiroshima while Isreali Popoye-Turbo is just about 200kT which is just at about ''times''x13 of the bomb dropped in Hiroshima. Which means Topol-M is 40 times deadlier than Popoye-Turbo. In fact Popoye-Turbo na learner beside Topol-M because Topol-M is one of the fastest missile in the world which moves at ''Mach22+'' and this speed makes it impossible to be intercepted by any defence in the world.

That's why I always laugh at some people that are praying for 3rd world war. The funniest thing is to even see nairalanders saying Russia can destroy America or America can destroy Russia. Lolzzz.


I think a single blast of Topol-M missile can wipe off the whole Isreal from the map in less than 10 minutes and it will still destroy any country nearest to Isreal
Now you can Imagine if Topol-M mistakenly dropped inside Nigeria!! Happy new year.

Honestly, you said it all. But you misunderstood me. I wasnt even comparing the Topol M and and the Popoye. I only made mention of it as a pointer to the technological disparity between the acclaimed powers. The Isreali Popoyo Turbo and it's payload is nothing new. Russian/Indian BrahMos/Yak already had similar payload of over 200kg, with a supersonic speed that makes it the fastest of all such cruise missiles.
However, the fact that the Yankees are openly worried about newer classes of the Kalibr, entails that the likes of BraHmoS may sooner than later, take the back seat.

The buttom line is that: most tech advanced and oriented naions have some scaring killer pins in their ungodly arsenals of death, but when it comes down to shoulder fronting, give it up for the East. The Russians are king in the arena of rocket doom.

mazeltov:
Russians' military hardwares outdated? Lolzz.
Now back SUBs. Isreeali Popoye-Turbo SLCMs was tested in the Indian Ocean and have a hit range of about 1,500km but that is not where I'm going. It can carry payload of about 200kt of warhead which is approximately times ~ x13 of the bomb dropped in Hiroshima. It is Isreali second strike nuclear deterrent weapon and that's why its payload delivery is heavy.
Even Russian's Klub-class Cruise missile payload used in Syria is far below that.
[b]Isreal may not have the fastest and the longest range cruise missile like Russia but but you see that Popoye-Turbo SLCMs? Close it!!

I see ya point. But the fact remain that when it comes to missile technology, even the US is struggling to keep up with the Russians, let alone Isreal. When Russia tested the Tupol M, guess how Isreal felt......They thought it was a UFO.

rottennaija:
Bullshit...let them declassified what happened on September 11 to the twin towers and Pentagon. Let them declassified what happened to Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy

Your head is rightly on your shoulders.

Pity him.

Its true. They have now gotten another leader. All of them will pay for the blood they have shared.

seagulsntrawler:
Let's see how the empire of chaos will respond to these deals. The deluded warmongers and opportunists believe they can project their power by building military bases all over the world (more than 700). Putin recently said Russia does not need a military base to reach anyone anywhere in the world. Interesting times lie ahead.

He is correct! The current world order based on technology, is fast becoming one where you can conveniently lunch full scale war from the comfort of its borders without much ado about many military bases or allies. And some nations like the Russians are already thinking in this direction. Military bases have their advantages, but with the contineous growing prowess of modern technology, having multiple bases as such, may make little or no difference at all.

fineguy11:
have u read the specs of the S- 500?very scary!its alledged that it cam shoot down low orbit satelites and any form of balistics/war heads..if this weapon comes into effect,it definatly will be a game changer..the US claims it has stealth fighter that can penetrate any airdefence in the world,the russians claims with their S-400/500 series,STEALTH DOESNT EXIST!...i'wld like to see the S-400 square up against US stealth aircraft..

Yeah. You see...i am not surprised or doubt anything about Russia when it comes to missile or rocket technology. The records are there to see. The S-400 is presently the talk of town, even among western circles. They still don't have answers for the S-300, and one can only wonder ''whats up'' about the S-500.. Stealth technology is beutiful, but its hardly a game changer, and when you consider that the S-400 is design to also defend against stealth, it further lend credence to the scary nature/possibility of the S-500 in relation to its capabilities.

These guys are gradually creeping us back to the arms race where Satan might be the only man with the last laugh.

fineguy11:
America invaded iraq,millions killed.Nato practically destroyed lybia.thousand of civilians died as a result of the unrest,where was amnesty international?the US claimed they have used an estimate of 20,000 missiles since the begining of their campaign,yet the only major city the iraqi army have retaken is RAMMADI..yet they're screeming,russia is killing civilians,very pathetic of the west.@least we know russian bombs works.The west and hypocrisy is like rice and beans..initially,the west was like ASSAD MUST GO.,now they're shamelessly singing a different tune..,the current ringtone is ASSAD can stay for now but,.......!I call on all western BUTT lickers on this thread,and mr Erdogan who is hidding under the moniker(vedaxcool)to bury u'r heads in shame,like ur leaders are doing below..

It seems to me that the only bombs that are actually working against Isis, are those made and supplied by Russia. Little wonder the Iraqi govt is considering switching to weapons made from the East, and since the Russians are hitting their terrorist pet project so hard, all they can do to help their masters is holla '' Russia is killing civillians''. The cry is so pathetic that you have to feel sorry for them. Just as they have sadly forgotten Kunduz hospital so quick. No, they didnt remember one of their vassals, Satan Arabia, that twice exterminated two Yemenis wedding parties. The hypocritical Amnesty International was on ground and dutifully 'granted amnesty'' to Bush and NATO for the false-based invasion of Iraq, where the they killed millions of Women, children, and the the elderlies. Even dogs and cats were not left out. Neither these Anglo Zionist chanters remembered their terrorist master anahilating whole villagers lives and settlements in Vietnam with herbicides and other criminal chemical substances. But when the Russians hit a place, they all chorus like the Russians have just nuked somewhere, while shamefully negating the fact that their so called coalition airstrikes are busy targeting Syrian and Iraqi government ground forces: and that is, if the bombs are not falling on the deserts or they running out of ammos. You can immagine that.

How some people could still degenerate to supporting such blatant evil and sheer terror, is simply beyond my mental comprehension.

Man is in deed, an enemy of itself.

Wealthyonos:
My guy, mind your mouth before you pass judgement as if you were God. Jesus owns January, February,...December. He is the owner of all the days and all the years. Even the Shepherds worshipped God after seeing the born child. The host of the heavenly angels worshipped God when Christ was born. 25th may not be the actual day Christ was born. But for a man that owns all the days, months and years, it won't be inappropriate to pick any day to celebrate his birth. We celebrate our individual birthdays but it becomes sin when the birth of Christ is celebrated. I don't condemn people who do not celebrate the birth of Christ, henceforth, let no man trouble me for celebrating the birth of my Saviour because I bear in me the mark of Christ.
What ever we do, in words and in deed, we do it in the name of Jesus Christ as instructed by the Bible. Lastly, if you find it unholy to celebrate the birth of the Saviour, then shut up and mind your own business. Thank You. (Onos JP)

I have heard you. If justifying a lie based on the notion of ''all days'', is an acceptable norm to thee, then you can go ahead. After all, we all are free moral agents. But one thing is clear, and that is the scriptures: a lie is a lie, no matter sugar coated. Just as you alluded about us humans celebrating our birth days, but you didn't remember that ONOS JP dont celebrate his birthday premised on a lie by adopting a completely false date, rather than the original known to him.

But like we said, the choice is yours to live either the truth or the lie. Whichever way, God and His word remain unchanged.

Yeah. India had already placed an order, 4.5 billion. Russia is selling because it will soon recieve the first set of a more advance type, the S-500, early next year.

cyprus000:
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Apple of jah. The one babylonians can't defeat & dem coulda never clone. keep on de-schematizing their maisma under all mantra.

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Sincerely speaking. I have tried not to sound myopic, but one can't suppress the truth in the bide not to sound myopic.

I followed this MH17 saga for quit a long time, and after accessing, compiling and looking at things objectively.
I asked myself. What will russia and the seperatist gain by downing a civilian aircraft,when this will sabotage their effort..nothing.
What about NATO and it ukrianian allies in a war they are already losing..they have everything to gain. cos by doing so. They can distort fact and indict russia and the seperatist in the court of public opinion. with the use of legal
maneuvering and its well-oiled press to turn the investigation of the disaster into a witchhunt with an inevitable outcome already eagerly determined to implicate Russia. There by inciting international community against russia and the seperatist. Which is what they did pre-emptively.
The Western media intentionally twisted the words of investigators to misrepresent evidence and preliminary and very cautious statements to portray them as definitive conclusions to establish Russia’s guilt. Just lyk the chemical weapons attack in Syria, where a UN report’s ambiguous conclusions were transformed into an
indictment of guilt by the Western media.
I was watching with awe when the so called investigators dished out lies and fallacy has investigative report(quick to point russia/seperatist as the culprit without proof), which is obvious to even a layman,albiet a sharp one. It took a concerned french citizen(Thierry andre)>>
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hhmi-f-UbE
who was fed up of digesting lies, to conduct his own independent investigation, covering pretty much all incongruities and lies in the official pre-reports and the investigation in general. Same with the australian's who just de-schematize their lies and a sincere whistle-blower who came out with information that a Ukraine airforce pilot Captain Voloshin returned distraught
from a flight around the time of the tragedy,(this corroborrate with russian radar signature),
confessing that he ‘shot down the wrong plane.’ Captain Voloshin disappeared later,so did the Spanish air traffic controller who was responsible for re-directing the Malaysia
Airlaines plane into the dangerous war zone, and who
tried to expose the truth about MH17 in his tweets.>>https://futuristrendcast./2014/12/29/ukraines-snowden-whistleblower-confirms-mh17-was-shot-down-by-ukraine/



This world is full of web of lies. it takes a cautious one not to be inebriated by it. If fact points to russia and the seperatist has the guilty once. I will be the first to call for their head in the court of public opinion. This is human life we are talking. But all fact and proof is pointing to one particular direction and this same people wants us to indict a different people, bcs they have monopoly over the mainstream media. That's height of media pillage on our common sense.
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You have said it all, O gallant soulja. We are now living in times where lies are fast becoming the truth. Mass media, especially from the west, are now taking over from Satan as the father of lies, and some of us are following, line, hook and sinker.

hadukwu1007:
I hope all parties involved in Syria will play along in relation to the UNSC resolution.. d power tussle as to stop cos itz d ordinary pple dat are bearing most of d sufferings. Erdogan shud calm his resolve towards syria n also to d Kurds..I don't knw y d truce was vitiated btw dem n d Kurds.
UKRAINE: Russia, US, NATO should come to a compromise (d Minsk agreement should b able 2tk care of dt)....cos in d advent of resumption of hostilities, it will only lead to more destruction.
CONCLUSION
Dislodging presidents in countries dt r not in supot of ur foreign policy(especially militarily) create haven for all kinds of atrocities e.g. Libya, Iraq. I opine dt doz behind dz type of ideas shud jettison it as it has brought about an unsafe world n untold hardship.
APPRECIATION
i've bn an ardent reader on dz foreign politics forum 4about roughly 3-4yrs(meaning m d silent observer secretary general) bt I must say, u guyz r too good..I luv ur in-depth analysis n I envy u guyzz pool of knowledge on international relations/history. Plz kip up d good work.
Appleyard
Missy
Tkesker
Mazeltov
Valiencesteel
Nairamint
..and others I cnt quite recall der names...I DOFF MY HAT 4U GUYZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!! #respect

Thanks alot. We can do nothing but for the truth.

Akathriel:
Vladimirovich Putin has disappointed me but first, let me call the Kremlin & hear from the horse's mouth.

@appleyard - Your silence is deafening!

Sorry. I have been busy. Well, if you have been following events as i believe you are, you would notice that the deployment of the S-400 was only to safegaurd Russian military assets in the air in Syria, following the downing of the Su24 by Turkey meat Erdogan. It was never meant to unilaterally shoot down western planes, even when targeting allies like Hezbollah (with the exception of Turkey), unless Russia's military assets are directly threatened. Besides, there appears to be an ''understanding'' between Russia and Isreal regarding ''targets'' over Syria. This is apparent if one consider the fact that the very first time the Bear started its overt intervention in Syria, some of its planes confronted some Isreali F16s in Syrian airspace, which caused the Jews to make a U-turn and fled their original course. Immediately after that incident, NetanYAHOO, the Isreali Prime Minister, quickly travelled to Russia and met with hs counterpert, Vladimir Put-the-hegemon down, to discuss their varied but vital interests that are strategic to both sides as far as Syria is concerned. Since that time, Russia has been looking the other way whenever the Isreal strikes at his target-Hezbollah, while Isreal, on the other hand, didnt raise any dust when Russian planes cross into its airspace. Not even a single complain, let alone threats.

So, as you can see, in business like these, you can't hold all the aces to yourself all the time. There will always come the time and point where you must make certain concessions in order to further your course; and this much is understood by the intelligent minds that governs both nations - Isreal and Russia. Isreal's primary concern in Syria is Hezbollah, (for reasons well understood), while those of Russia is ensuring that the Hegemon don't succeed in yet another toppling like Libya, but the real GOAL is to prevent the materializtion of that Qatari/Saudi and US backed gas pipeline from there into Europe (which would greatly undermine the Russian gas leverage over the EU), hence, the quest to keep the Assad regime floating till God-knows when, apart from the fact that Syria had been a Russian long time ally. Thus, on this note, Russia may allow Hezbollah (or even more) to burn for some time, though it doesnt sound good to the ear, especially when you consider that they are on the same side battling ISIS, but like i said, some concessions have to be made for the greater good which is long term. But make no mistake about it: if Russia's military assets in Syria are directly threatened, even by Isreal, (unlike the Turkish ambush), all hell would break lose. But i doubt if any such thing would ever happen. Thanks to a concensus ad idem between Putin and Netanyaho.

However, as it has always been; war is in deed, a dirty business, and this one is no exception.

NairaMinted:
Like I have been saying from the very beginning, MH17 looks like a false flag operation - or at the very best like a mistake from the Ukies which they have tried to pin on the Russians.

As the months pass by, all shall be unraveled.

Its already unravelling.

cyprus000:
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What else do you expect from western media,which specialize in pillaging on the collective "common sense" of feeble minds.

An emotive media kind of maneuvering, designed to incite further indignation
and reinforce the image of Russia as being the enemy(bad guy).
They distorted fact on crimes committed by Ukrainian militias or the Neo-Nazi Ukrainian battalions, in attempt to manipulate their zombies.

this is a region closely monitored by the US, NATO and Russia by satellite and radar throughout the entire conflict. If a missile had been fired at MH17,
why not provide satellite data and radar
signatures to corroborated their
story. The US, NATO and Ukraine all
declined thus far to produce any such
evidence: all they did is provide
magically recovered passports with no burn-damage, the discernible,as evidence (and immediately pursued) Geo-Political agenda, even the citing of Social Media reports and You tube footage as ‘proof’. Same way western military agencies faked hundreds (if not thousands) of twitter and social-media accounts and passed them off as being the accounts of civilian ‘protesters’, as well as putting out hundreds of clearly fake You Tube videos allegedly showing ‘crimes’ of the then Libyan government forces. These fake accounts, videos and posts were then cited frequently by mainstream/corporate media outlets as ‘proof’ that the late Gaddafi and the Libyan government was attacking its own people.(No actual proof provided)..*spit*.

Even when russia provided a detailed account of the final movement of MH-17, which Russian radar, spotted a second aircraft in the vicinity shortly before the crash and the satellite imagery showing Ukraine had moved missile systems into the
area before the incident. Western media
commentators dismissed this Russian data as faked. Despite the fact that russia demanded that the black box recording which is in possession of US, be released. We haven't seen black box recording,nor did US/ukrian provide any sattellite or radar proof.

Thank God for few sincere australian's who where sincere enough to release a footage which corroborate with russian proof on how a Ukrainian SU-2t5 fighter jet equipped with air-to-air R-60 missiles was detected within 5-10 km of the
Malaysian passenger plane, and was moving within an air-corridor usually reserved for commercial aircraft.

To think that dutch in collaborration with it imperial master's will distort and implant foreign debris, just to dish out fallacy and lies for the insatiable apetite of her zombies. Is unsurprising to me. I was watching CNN in a stolid mode,when it bastardize and discredited factual report from russia and the manufacturer, and I begin to wonder. How hard it is for all this western zombies to read between lines. Why can't they see that the mainstream media are dishing out what they want them to believe(mind control).

There is no doubt that the smear on russian reputation on this matter, is a false flag operation from the west.

The only thing I believe from the west is "goodmorning","goodafternoon" and "goodevening". Even at that. I still research to ascertain wether it is true or not.

I personally feel sorry for all this western zombies costituting nuisance in this corner of our cyber space.
The way they exibit ignorance and consummate lunacy. Is a pity to them and a threat to sane minds.

I have tried to engage some of them,but I dont want to wallow in their paradise of illusion and groose ignorance. I'm not tolerant when dealing with their type. I will go ballistic, trying to open their sixth sense. so as to allow the wave of common sense to penetrate their zombiedized skull.
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;DThats my homie, Cyprus000, who takes no prisoner of war against the Anglo Zionist Empire of death and their zombiefied cronies across the world wide web. It is even more pathetic that the DSB relied on as evidence, information provided by the Ukie junta, from ''the secondary radar'', and not from the ''primary radar''-- reason; because it was not active as at that time, sayeth the Junta. and some gullible minds fell for this.

Pathetic.

Zoharariel:
Shut up! For every good reason there is to lie, there is a better reason to tell the truth.

Vladimirovich Putin; sit at my right hand, till I make the AngloZionist vampires & their sympathizers your footstool.

thou shall have them in derision, and no weapon faction against thee shall prosper, thou servant of the most high. Vladimir Muhammadu Putin. Slayer of the empire of chaos and death, and lies.

ValerianSteel:
I don't see how this exonerates Russia.From the looks of things,the investigations are still inconclusive.In the light of more evidence,acquisition of more debris and further test would determine if Russia is truly guilty or not.Till then Russia appears to be favoured currently by lack of evidence and a dwindling opinion of it being guilty due to lack of substantial evidence.

Australia just dismantled the popular mantra ''Russia did it''. yeah, you cant see it, because you still cant comprehend the fact that most of the DSB report and facts relied on, including the constitution of the panel from the word go, was a complete bull-shi*t. Neither did you see how the DSB tampered with the fuselages evidence as seen in the pics provided above. Brother, never cross the bridge until you get to it.

ValerianSteel:
Saw this on RT earlier on and the case is a rather dicey one.

Erdem claims that materials for manufacturing Sarin gas were brought to Turkey and transported to IS and developed in IS camps when then the Islamic group was still known as Iraqi-Alqaeda.

This is a period before ISIS gained prominence as a global terror network.Much of what ISIS is today was not yet known to world governments.

Erdem's claims comes at a time when Turkey needs to exonerates itself of Russia's claims of its involvement with ISIS.Here we have a MP giving such details to RT,the chief propaganda arm of Russia's attacks on Turkish integrity and the claims do not accuse the Turkish government knew of the movement of chemical weapons but somehow it suggests the Turkish government allowed it or inaction to knowing about it aided ISIS,hence the treason charges.

Erdem's claim is based on facts, rather than insinuations, and his claims so far, are[i] in pari material[/i] with what others of his kind in Turkey have been saying before now. Even blind Steven wonders knew that the Turkish authorities are, passively or actively, aiding and abetting terror acts in Syrian territory. and talking to RT does not change the fact that Erdem's charges only re-enstate what others (some of whom are now dropping dead or being jailed) have been saying all along. if RT is the chief propaganda arm of the Russian government, simply for airing a narative that doesnt fit the dictats of your western CIA controlled MSM ensslave houses, i wonder what CNN, Fox news or BB-Sin is to you and their respective governments.

The truth is treason in the empire of lies. Little wonder the man had to face treason charges, as if he wanted to overthrow the government.

pathetic.

For the Russophobes, to the Putin haters, Ukie Junta apologists, and to the honest and innocent doubter, know ye that '' the Truth is always a treasonable felony in the empire of lies: a revolutionary act in a time of global deciet.''

MH17: Australia Say Russia Not To Blame, Evidence Tampered With
Submitted by IWB, on December 16th, 2015

by Sean Adl-Tabataba i


The official Australian investigation into the cause of the crash of Malaysian Airlines MH17 have accused the Dutch Safety Board (DSB) of failing to provide “conclusive evidence” of what exactly destroyed the aircraft, and say that Russia did not shoot down the plane despite accusations to the contrary from DSB.
The senior Australian policeman investigating the MH17 crash, Detective Superintendent Andrew Donoghue, testified in an international court recently saying that a “tougher standard than the DSB report” is required before the criminal investigation can identify the weapon that caused the crash.
Donoghue also testified that ten months after the crash, only half of the planes fuselage fragments were handed over for inspection and that “some fragments were not consistent with debris of the aircraft”.
www.Johnhelmer.net reports:
Their criminal investigation will continue into 2016, Donoghue told the Victorian Coroners Court (lead image) on Tuesday morning. He and other international investigators are unconvinced by reports from the US and Ukrainian governments, and by the DSB, of a Buk missile firing. “Dutch prosecutors require conclusive evidence on other types of missile,” Donoghue said, intimating that “initial information that the aircraft was shot down by a [Buk] surface to air missile” did not meet the Australian or international standard of evidence.

The Coroners Court in Melbourne is the first in the world to hold an inquest into the MH17 crash on July 17, 2014, and the cause of death of those on board. Iain West , the deputy state coroner presided, after the state coroner, Judge Ian Gray, withdrew at the last minute. The inquest opened for a single hour of hearing on Tuesday. A second hearing is scheduled for Wednesday, when West will announce his findings. In the UK, where an investigation into the death of 10 British nationals, is being supervised by Leicestershire coroner, Catherine Mason, all court proceedings have been suspended without a date being set for inquest. It was reported in the Melbourne court that British post-mortem experts participated in the Dutch investigations, alongside Australian, Dutch, and German teams, plus a joint Indonesian-Malaysian group.

In the Melbourne courtroom, press reporters outnumbered representatives of the families of several of the victims. Of the 28 Australian citizens killed, 11 were from Victoria state; 10 were permanent residents of Australia; and 3 had close ties to Australia. A local newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch reported from the courtroom “the Kuala Lumpur-bound Malaysia Airlines flight… was hit by a Russian-made surface-to-air missile over eastern Ukraine”. In fact, Donoghue of the AFP said this was an unverified claim by the DSB for “a missile of a type previously provided to Ukraine.”
In court, in addition to members of the Coroner’s staff, there was one government intelligence agent who kept his official identification tag inside his coat, and refused to say whether he was an Australian or American national.
Donoghue was the lead witness. He continues to direct a team of 22 Australian police, forensic specialists and intelligent agents stationed in The Netherlands and Ukraine. He was followed by Dr David Ranson (right), a Victorian pathologist who led a team of 4; they worked at the Dutch military base at Hilversum in July and August of 2014, after the bodies of the MH17 victims were taken there for identification and forensic analysis. Donoghue said a full report by the AFP had been included in the coroner’s evidence. Ranson has filed two reports with the coroner – one of August 25, 2014, and one on December 16, 2014. So far the Coroner has classified these documents as secret.

Testifying on oath, Donoghue revealed for the first time that the Australian government had quietly negotiated two agreements to investigate the crash site in eastern Ukraine. The first, he said, was with the Ukrainian government in Kiev for security around the crash site. The second was with Novorussian leaders in order for the Australians to carry out their searches for victims’ bodies, personal property and other evidence, as well as to run a command post in Donetsk city. Political recognition by the Australians of the separatists has never been acknowledged before. Donoghue refused to say who signed the agreement for the Novorussians.

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