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Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi Kurds Dismiss Russian Claims Of ISIL Oil Sales by Appleyard(m): 9:09pm On Dec 05, 2015
Missy89:
Russia and lies be like Ying Yang
The same kurds that are against the Syrian/Turkish border closure? Am not surprise... grin i laf in Swahili..
Foreign Affairs › Re: Thousands Of Russian Troops Head To Turkish Border As U.S. Planes Flee Syria Air by Appleyard(m): 8:32pm On Dec 05, 2015
Missy89:
@ Appleyard
I never said if Russians stop going to Turkey, it would kill the Tourism sector there, but would have significant impact on it's overall output and input into the economy, on the ground that it accounts for over 2.1 million jobs. Moreover, this is never going to be limited to the Russians alone. If the Turkey resentment fever is so high down here in Africa, (primarily because of the Russian anti ISIS campaign), i wonder how it would be even among Europeans who are still suffocating under the influx of Syrian refugees, and are increasingly seeing Turkey as part of the wider problem. On this note, i am not wrong. The Turks have much to lose here than whatever additional cost individual Russians will have to pay for alternative tours. Infact, Isreal is already courting Russian tourist, and just as some Russians have put it, '' there are certain things more important than open beaches and and sun-baking ''. Thats the Russian strong will and collectivism for you. This is further underlined by the peoples reaction at home, following the downing, and no amount of additional cost (if any) would stop them.

Yeah, they eventually found market for their products, yet the likes of slovenia, Greece, Italy, and German industrial lobbyist now holding Merkel on the neck, wants an end to the tit for tat sanction wars. Even some of the markets they have discovered are proving insufficient to offset the loss incurred by absence of the Russian market, due to serious competition and government policies of the host markets. For instance, Nigeria, a large importer of such EU goods especially after the Russian embargo, have ban the importation of some of those goods, eliciting anger from the EU: and as if that is not enough, Russia have added 7 additional countries to the sanction list, further increasing cost on the bloc whose aid package of more than 500 million Euros has been criticize for being inadequate to offset losses.

http://epthinktank.eu/2015/11/20/russian-measures-against-european-union-agricultural-products-one-year-on/

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Policy/Russian-embargo-21-states-urge-Commission-to-keep-agri-reserve-funds

http://www.freshfruitportal.com/news/2015/09/16/eu-e500-million-aid-package-is-not-enough-says-copa-cogeca/?country=unknown

http://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/juncker-we-cant-let-eu-relations-russia-be-dictated-us-318364
It was barely 3 months that 1500 tractors took to the streets in France, and protest sparked up in Spain partly due to this same issue. If they had actually exported more and made more gain after Russian sanction, i wonder why the rebellion then, and why the EU is preparing more aid packages now.

Concerning the issue of Russia propaganda, i dont watch Russian tvs, cause i dont have them listed in my subscription bouguet, not even the popular RT. But you dont need propaganda to see that Turkey is involve in shady deals with ISIS. Even the Iranians have been saying it long before the Russians came out with it. The motive is there for all to see. Journalist were being harassed and jailed for exposing the truth. Footage of IS tankers lined up with crude is readily made available, even by the US. Now let common sense do the thinking here: where else could those tankers pass through in the northern plain, if not through Turkey? Even among the US house of congress, some members knew that Turkey is in bed with IS, and the Turkish opposition is compiling evidence to prove their points. Even some die hard western anti Putin media bodies are chanting the same mantra here. The fact is, there are some truth you cant keep under the carpet no matter how you try, and this is just one of them.
I dont think Russia was indifferently sitting on evidence until their plane got shot. In fact, Putin have said before now that 40 countries are involved in the dealing, and that some of the G20 members are involved. Well, now we have gotten to know one. If Putin have said earlier that so and so are dealing with ISIS, who would have believe him? Be truthful. Not forgeting that Russia was enjoying good relations with Turkey before now. But the evidence dont lie! The evidence based on ascertained motive will always bring out the truth, and it has been proved over and over again, Turkey is ISIS Partner in crime as far as oil is involve.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Thousands Of Russian Troops Head To Turkish Border As U.S. Planes Flee Syria Air by Appleyard(m):
@Missy89, Russia is already responding,(unless you are like them kids down here expecting Kremlin rain of missiles on Ankara, which i doubt you are) and contrary to your views, Erdogan has a whole lot to lose out on, both personally and nationally. His popularity back home is already dwindly. The death of one journalist and the arrest of two others charged for espionage for revealing the truth about the ISIS and Turkey shady oil deals, further create resentment both from home and abroad. Also, the arrest and prosecution for treason of two generals who dare to intercept a convoy of Erdogan's '' goodwill '' bound for Syria, is a clear indication of visible cracks now appearing even in his inner circle. All these happening in the afthermath of the downed Su24.
And now that Syria and Russia, with the blessing of France, is moving to seal off the Syrian side of the border with Turkey, his Turkmen and other proxies will now have to be at the mercy of Syrian ground troops and Russian air power: and to make matters worse, he cant even fly his planes anymore for obvious reasons. So tell me, is all these not amounting to a collosal loss?

Again, on the national side, contrary to your view, the Russian response will definitly slow down the Tourism sector, but it may also likely affect the overall performance of the Turkish economy. Yes, it will have considerable impact. This is because, tourism accounts for over 2.1 million jobs in Turkey, employing more than other sectors like the chemical. Authomobile, manufacturing industries. Russian tourist alone accounts for 12-18% of this, with over 3.4 million visits last year. But the real danger here is that, where ever exist an atmosphere of uncertainty and fear, people tends to avoid such places for fear of the unknown, like the last month blast that killed over a hundred in a rally in the same Turkey: and now that the notion of Russia's unpredictability have join the queue of the unknown tomorow, coupled with the glaring fact that alot of people accross the globe (europe in particular) are emotionally and naturally supporting the Russian anti-IS mission in Syria, it is vividly clear that it will never be the Russians alone that would stop coming to Turkey for holidays. This is the point some people seem to negate in their lobsided analysis. One only need to see what is happening to Egypt now, not to mention that Erdogan's highhandedness and staunch posture as an islamic overlord, is further killing Turkey's image. The lira has already taken a dive, amidst growing anti-Erdogan's sentiments back home, and if over 3.4 million doesnt mean anything to the man, he probably have to see a psychiatrist, because it meant a whole lot to the economy. Now you can understand why the man wants to get things right with Putin, but his '' strongman ego '' wont let him do the right thing--apologise and move forward.

Additional cost as in how? The sanctions didnt affect gas supply and other contractual obligations for obvious reasons like you rightly noted: Egypt is already lining up to replace Turkey for Russia's fruites and vegetable needs, and Greece would easily fill the destination void left by Turkey, and that is if the option of Cuba and China is not prefered readily. As for Turkey, finding a market for their products would prove to be a difficult task. It is easy to find sellers, but its not always easy to find buyers. They can ask the Irish, French and Polish farmers who could not find buyers for their products following a similar case.

Which propaganda? That Turkey is accessory to ISIS oil theft or what? Even Steven Wonders knew Turkey is aiding and abeting ISIS oil criminality. Even the US is increasingly finding it hard to cover. Where is the inflamatory propaganda in all this?

The reality is that, Erdogan had fired an air to air missile against himself in toto, and against Turkey in considerable terms. He has started a battle he can not win nor afford to lose. He is caught in the middle!


And no! I don't believe that Uncle Sam has fled the Syrian Skies, nor in thousands of troops being moved to the border. But one thing i do believe in is that, the Syrian airspace is now a forbidden taboo for Turkey, unless they reach certain compromise with the Russians and Syrian government.
Foreign Affairs › Re: US Informs ISIS Before Striking Them by Appleyard(m): 8:39am On Dec 04, 2015
ValerianSteel:
Appleyard don come again oh.

Too much conspiracy theories and propaganda trailing the war against ISIS.
There is the problem. When truth stares reality on the face based on facts on the ground, we call it conspiracy thories and propaganda. But the truth has always been, and will always be treason in the empire of lies.
Foreign Affairs › Re: US Military Delivers "Recyclable Junk" To Ukrainian Military by Appleyard(m): 2:25pm On Dec 02, 2015
American wonder
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey’s Ops Not Directed At Islamic State – Pentagon Head To US Congress by Appleyard(m): 12:36pm On Dec 02, 2015
Turkey is increasingly exposing itself to the world to see that she is a terrorist sponsoring state than a partner against terrorism.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Thousands Of Russian Troops Head To Turkish Border As U.S. Planes Flee Syria Air by Appleyard(m): 12:11pm On Dec 02, 2015
Missy89:
Dont tell me you believe this nonsense. Come on now
Minus the US and France that are coordinating their flights with the Russians, the Syrian airspace is practically over for Turkey, and that is no nonesense. If you understand the Russians like i suppose you do, then you should know that they are, like the hyena, perfectly waiting for the opportunity to present itself, but the Turks must have anticipated this, hence, the complete grounding of all their flights into Syria, following the S400 deployment.
The truth is, as far as Syria is concerned, Erdogan has more to lose than any other side in the conflict. It's shipments of weapons and men to it's proxies in Syria, continued to be bombed, the Turkmen are now under heavy bombardment both from Syrian ground and Russian airforces, and it can no longer fly missions into Syria, while back home, trouble is blewing even among his own military ranks: the recent treatment meted out to journalist further create more resentment and excuses for some European nations like France, Germany and Greece, that opposes Turkey's acession into the EU.
The downing of the Su24 has completely exposed and undone Erdogan, not withstanding the NATO rhetorical stance (which is more of a feigned show of solidarity), little wonder the man is so desperate to sort things out with Putin.

As far as Europe is concerned, the man has shot himself on the foot big time.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Thousands Of Russian Troops Head To Turkish Border As U.S. Planes Flee Syria Air by Appleyard(m): 10:23pm On Dec 01, 2015
Turkey have started a fight it must now have to finish. This is a really tense moment.
Foreign Affairs › Re: New Video Of Russian Aerospace Forces Airstrikes @terrorists Positions In Syria by Appleyard(m): 10:09pm On Dec 01, 2015
France, Russia and Syria have already concluded the need to take control of that border with Turkey, which will significantly impact against IS.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Is Russia Building Up Air Defense Shield All Over Syria? by Appleyard(m): 9:56pm On Dec 01, 2015
NairaMinted:
I'm sure that my by now, some Nairalanders would be fed up with my constant and unrelentless propaganda.

Make una no vex o. Oga Putin pays well and I have a weekly quota to achieve.
grin grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Building New Military Bases On Islands Claimed By Japan by Appleyard(m): 9:51pm On Dec 01, 2015
Idrismusty97:
Similar to what the US does to Islands claimed by China.

So Russia 1:1 USA smiley
Power play every where, end time things.
Foreign Affairs › Erdogan's House Of Cards by Appleyard(op): 12:23pm On Dec 01, 2015
'' Conscience is an open wound, only truth can heal it ''.


Turkey Arrests Generals for Stopping Syria- Bound Trucks 'Filled With Arms

By: Stacy Vassman
TURKEY

Two Turkish generals and a colonel were detained on Saturday for intercepting Syria-bound trucks that belonged to Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization (MIT), the newspaper Today’s Zaman reported... Last Tuesday, Erdogan answered claims previously made by critics, who said the trucks were filled with weapons, by sarcastically asking them: "What if the MIT trucks were filled with weapons?" Then on Saturday, contrary to his earlier claims that the MIT trucks were carrying humanitarian aid to Turkmen, Erdogan said the trucks were actually heading on their way to help the Free Syrian Army (FSA). Just make up your mind, Mr. Erdogan. Where the trucks were heading and what were they carrying after all? Meanwhile, some very high-ranking Turkish officials, including then-president Abdullah Gul, revealed that the Syria-bound trucks were a "state-secret," (when did humanitarian aids started becoming state secrets?) grin leading to more speculations that the trucks were indeed filled with weapons.
Well, it appears that not all generals are terrorists accomplice, or having the mens rea to associate with crimes against humanity. So, these generals did what was right, but by so doing, dares the status quo, and for such, got arrested. But what does this implied? Simple: the cracks are appearing among the top ranks in the Erdogan's house of terror. And another situation that further unerlined this possibility, was the contradicting statements by Erdogan and his military chiefs, following the downing of the Su24. Erdogan, after talking from both side of his mouth, have stated that his army didn't know the plane was a Russian one. That statement infuriated the army chiefs who said the politicians were contradicting and making things much difficult for them to handle, saying they would have resolve the issue with their Russian counterparts.

You can imagine that..

Meanwhile, Erdogan's ISIS and Al Nusra are butchering themselves in Syria, even as the Syrian army who can now strike deeper (many thanks to Russian air power) have, on Monday, bombarded and inflicted heavy casualties on the crazy Takfiris near the border with criminal manager, Turkey, with as many of them surrendering for pardon.

And as the evil house tries hard to cloak it's illicit and criminal acts in Syria, adrenaline is taking a toll on it's desperation to maintain his own narative by taking on the media - one journalist is now dead, and two others already arrested and charged for revealing Turkey's involvement with ISiS and its oil deals - further getting itself despised and loathed by many. All these revealing more cracks in the house of cards, and some are cueing up for the fall in the crumbling ladder.

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940909001354

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940908001473

http://www.prisonplanet.com/russia-syrian-army-plan-to-block-turkish-border.html
Foreign Affairs › Re: Is Russia Building Up Air Defense Shield All Over Syria? by Appleyard(m): 11:17pm On Nov 30, 2015
NairaMinted:
Right on!
grin And the latest was the '' almighty '' US Airforce running out of ammo in the purported act of destroying IS trucks. Can you imagine that? Yet some gullible trollers down here will still fall for such craps.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Putin Snubs Erdogan In Paris As Pilot’s Body Returns To Russia by Appleyard(m): 4:10pm On Nov 30, 2015
Khd95:
Baddest guy of d 21st centruy.
All hail lord putingrin
grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Situation In Syria - Nairaminted's Views by Appleyard(m): 3:49pm On Nov 30, 2015
NairaMinted:
Haven't you learnt anything yet, brother? This is a lie. You have failed to provide any shred of evidence hence this is a big fat lie. Another piece of Russian propaganda!!

https://russia-insider.com/sites/insider/files/1414518009785_wps_56_Alleged_ISIS_fighters_cas.jpg


Wait a minute! A Russian site reported this thus it must surely be another piece of Russian garbage.

So let's try Western news media; preferably the most anti-Russian of them and let's see what they have to say about the cooperation between ISIS & Turkey.

Here is Business Insider:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/isis-just-lost-its-back-door-2015-6

"Pipes, ammonium nitrate, and other bomb-making materials were being transported across Turkey’s border into Tal Abyad by agents of the Islamic State (aka ISIS, ISIL, Daesh) while Turkish border guards looked the other way, Jamie Dettmer of The Daily Beast reported."

Hmmm........

What about The Daily Beast, another morbidly anti- Russian news outlet? What do they have to report:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/22/where-isis-gets-its-bombs.html


“They are very tough with the Kurds and the areas controlled by the Free Syrian Army, but with areas across from ISIS not so much,” he explains over a cup of tea in the sitting room of his apartment a short walk from the border.


All these (and more) were reported several months before the Russians decided to toss their hats in the ring. Perhaps these news media didn't anticipate that Russia would soon be a partaker in the Syrian imbroglio.

Anyway, people, it is very obvious by now to the least geopolitics savvy of humans and even to the dumb.est of the dumb.est that Turkey is the major conduit through which arms and ammunition, money, fighters, equipment etc flows to The Islamic State.

Turkey is the very lifeline through which all the other facilitators of ISIS in the Middle East sustains terror in Syria and Iraq.
grin grin grin The whole is seeing who is the real evil all along. There is always a breaking point in everything, and that is what is happening to some of this western media bodies. Many are no longer buying the hate mantra and derogatory propaganda misinformation. Thus, they have no option but to see things the way they are. You need to see what is happening in the BBSin comment section. No one is buying the crap misinformation anymore, and so, they resulted to closing one comment section after the other.

Though it will tarry a wgile, the forces of good will surely carry the day.

Brother, we must continue the good work, and let those who chose to sympathize with terrorists and applaud criminality, continue. We all shall have our rewards at the end of days.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Is Russia Building Up Air Defense Shield All Over Syria? by Appleyard(m): 2:58pm On Nov 30, 2015
Missy89:
how is it bad news for IS when they do not have an airforce?
Who told you they don't have an enforce? How should we call the Uncle Sam and Turkish airforces striking targets contrary to IS?
Affiliates or allies? grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Situation In Syria - Nairaminted's Views by Appleyard(m): 11:21am On Nov 30, 2015
Foreign Affairs › Re: Situation In Syria - Nairaminted's Views by Appleyard(m):
I LOVE YOU, YOU LOVE ME...

Video Shows ISIS Militants Having Friendly Chat With Turkish Border Guards

Turkey: shooting down Russian planes while gossiping with takfiri terrorists
Rudy Panko Sat, Nov 28| 15,042 31

An ISIS-Turkish shindig. Nothing out of the ordinary.
Don't file this one under “surprising”, but a video has emerged of ISIS jihadists having a lovely chit-chat with Turkish border guards. The video is allegedly from October, so this is not a new Turkish tourism campaign launched in the wake of losing hundreds of thousands of Russian tourists. No, Turkey just sort of “likes” ISIS. They go together like peas and carrots. This is precious:
The clip begins with the two apparent jihadists lighting fires near a group of cars, which are believed to have been abandoned by desperate Kurdish families who fled Kobane in recent weeks when ISIS militants stepped up their attacks on the city.
After appearing to realise they are being filmed from inside Turkey, the pair start walking towards the border fence, stopping only to mockingly wave at the amateur filmmaker.
As they reach the border fence, an armoured military vehicle belonging to Turkish border guards speeds up to meet them. Heavily armed officials jump out the back of the car and - after briefly talking on their radios, simply engage the men in conversation.
At one point the situation appears tense and a border guard scampers towards the militants with his gun briefly raised, but he stops seconds later and also begins talking to the men.
After several minutes chatting, the militants wander off, defiantly raising their index finger to the sky to represent jihadism while chanting 'Allahu Akbar' - a phrase that translates as 'God is the greatest'.
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/video-shows-isis-militants-having-friendly-chat-turkish-border-officers/ri11511
Foreign Affairs › Re: Is Russia Building Up Air Defense Shield All Over Syria? by Appleyard(m): 9:03am On Nov 30, 2015
Bad news for IS and Turkey.
Foreign Affairs › Re: US Planes Left ISIS Fuel Tankers Unharmed Cos 'they Ran Out Of Ammunition' by Appleyard(m): 8:57am On Nov 30, 2015
Lies with passion. You bombed 250 tankers, and you can still peacefully cross from Turkey to your mock targets in Syria, lol?
The real bombing was done by the Russians, and that is why Turkey, so furious, have to stab Russia on the back, as they are no longer benefiting as such from the illiicit oil dealings.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Continues To Blow Up DAESH This Sunday, Reuters by Appleyard(m): 1:59am On Nov 30, 2015
nnachukz:
This Putin no dey smile o. If only Russia can lend us their president for two days boko boys for confirm that there is no virgin in stock for them anywhere at all.
gringringrin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Reveals Russian Warplane ‘crossed’ Into Its Airspace From Syria .. by Appleyard(m): 1:45am On Nov 30, 2015
Missy89:
Hahahaha grin.

Really Appleyard? Like seriously? Stop it.
But is true na. Abi na wetin again? Na fear? grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Reveals Russian Warplane ‘crossed’ Into Its Airspace From Syria .. by Appleyard(m):
MathsChic:
And you wonder why Erdogan keeps denying Turkey or some part of Turkey trades in oil with IS. Even that is public knowledge. Obama knows quite well.
Exactly. You can't hide such heavy trucks from camera or satellite views for long. One only need to see the long train of crude oil tankers destroyed so far by the Russian air force, particularly last wednesday. Like you said, the US knew, but what can it do? Birds of the same feather they say, flocks together.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Reveals Russian Warplane ‘crossed’ Into Its Airspace From Syria .. by Appleyard(m): 1:31am On Nov 30, 2015
Missy89:
So you agreed that Israel is a responsible nation? shocked
In international relations, you judge a nation by every single act of commission or omission in line with the degree of responsiveness based on acceptable standards and norms guiding international relations and diplomacy. The fact Isreal behaved in a manner that reflect the expected pattern of behavior acceptable in the international community, does not necessarily mean she is consistently responsible. You have to gauge that based on previous behavior in similar situations or other scenarios. For instance, one can hardly say Isreal has been behaving responsibly towards Palestine and the West Bank, and we all know why. But as far as this case is concern, one can say she acted responsibly.
Or do you want me to say it was because of the S400?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Deploys S-400 Air Defense System To Syrian Base (Pictures) - Mod Russia by Appleyard(m): 9:58pm On Nov 29, 2015
mazeltov:
I thought Russia would have burnt down Turkey by now. Most of these Russian's midgets on Nairaland are just dumb!!
You honestly expect Russia to declare war on Turkey because of one fighter jet? When Isreal did a bigger one by attacking an American war ship, the Liberty, that killed dozens and wounded many more, what did the US do? They didnt go to war. Rather, they tried to cover it.

Regarding Syria, the way Putin has handled the issue so far, is commendable, though it hasnt ruled out a retaliation in kind, and This much Turkey understands hence the suspention of all flights into Syria.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Deploys S-400 Air Defense System To Syrian Base (Pictures) - Mod Russia by Appleyard(m): 8:43pm On Nov 29, 2015
Shymm3x:
Loool.

I heard Erdogan has grounded all Turkish jets. grin grin grin grin
Grounding is an understatement. The Turkish military is now shifting intention by saying that they never knew the plane was Russian. Why are they now changing seats? The fear of S400 is the begining of wisdom to Turkey. Their free forey into the Syrian airspace is practically over, hence, the grounding.

More shite is coming.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Deploys S-400 Air Defense System To Syrian Base (Pictures) - Mod Russia by Appleyard(m): 7:06pm On Nov 29, 2015
fineguy11:
how was their country almost annihilated in ww2?..this is just the kind of premise u arrive at when u watch history from TRACE tv..
grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Deploys S-400 Air Defense System To Syrian Base (Pictures) - Mod Russia by Appleyard(m): 7:00pm On Nov 29, 2015
Aguntasolo1:
It doesn't make sense. What would he deploy if Russia territory is attacked? S-300 is more than enough for Syria. I still believe the S-400 thing is just a piece of news for local consumption of Russians.
Don't worr, there are others of it back home
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Announces Turkey Sanctions by Appleyard(m): 6:49pm On Nov 29, 2015
saxywale:
Russia cant be at the receiving end. How is that possiblehuh
Russians visit turkey for holidays (a warmer climate). That's one of the purpose of the sanctions, no more foreign exchange income from the over 3 million Russian tourist that visits turkey yearly.
Greek tour operators and the greeks would just fill in the gap created by the turkey government and smile to the bank.
Correct.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Announces Turkey Sanctions by Appleyard(m): 6:47pm On Nov 29, 2015
OBAGADAFFI:
Russia will be at the receiving end of this action.

Their are more Russian going to Turkey, than Turkish coming to Russia.
And the Russians that are going to Turkey, what were they going there for? Tourism. And if such 3 million tourists stop going to such places, who stands at a loss? Again, how many Russians are working in Turkey?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Reveals Russian Warplane ‘crossed’ Into Its Airspace From Syria .. by Appleyard(m): 6:36pm On Nov 29, 2015
MathsChic:
I'm still trying to understand why Turkey didn't just escort the plane out of its territory and later issue a stern warning. Erdogan just loved to stir the hornet's nest.
The man is a lunatic. He did what he did because of the Russian pounding of his son's illicit oil dealings with ISIS in that part of Syria. The IS free oil movement to Turkey has come to a considerable halt since the Russian air campaign. You can now see why they are furious.

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