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Foreign Affairs › Re: Defense Contractors Cite “benefits” Of Escalating Conflicts In The Middle East by Appleyard(m): 9:41am On Dec 15, 2015
Of course, they ''fared very well'', and thats the more reason why crisis will never live the middle east. They kept opening one front after the other.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Week Ten Of The Russian Intervention In Syria: The “assad Must Go” Policy... by Appleyard(m): 6:52pm On Dec 14, 2015
Spot on analysis. The real goal of the empire is to remove Assad to pave the way for those pipeline to Europe. They were almost getting there until the ''damn'' Russians intervened. On this note, Russia must expect more provocations, as neither side is ready to back down regarding Syria. More chaotic days ahead.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Newest U.S. Warship Breaks Down, Has To Be Towed 45 Miles To Shore by Appleyard(m): 5:24pm On Dec 14, 2015
The problem with all these big machines is that, just as they come big in size, so too their problems.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Syrian Army Backed With Russian Air-support liberates Latakia From Terrorists by Appleyard(m): 5:21pm On Dec 12, 2015
Good news. The goal now for Syria is to reach that side of the border with Turkey, and if it can secure that part of it's border, the stronghold of IS would be sverely loosened, as the free movement of militants and weapons from Turkey, as well as oil to that side, would be greatly affected, making IS all the more vulnerable.
Foreign Affairs › Re: (photos) Russia Submarine Bombs ISIS 1500 Miles Away by Appleyard(m): 1:59pm On Dec 12, 2015
fineguy11:
u this tarfiki,i can see the wahabbi virus is doing quite a number on u..,,they were informed as part of the agreements reached between the US and RUSSIA,as regarding military operations in syria and also as a mark of respect and not a request for permission..just like the russians informed the US abt its plans to start airstrikes in syria.www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11902275/Russian-general-tells-US-diplomats-We-launch-Syria-air-strikes-in-one-hour.-Stay-out-of-the-way.html. I find your
your mediterranean assertion quite funny.Russian subs have been sailing the mediterranean waters from its base in TARTUS(syria)since during the time of the USSR.are u also saying FRANCE wld seek isreal approval before sailing on the mediterranean?more than 20 countries have access to the mediterranean.saying isreal will fire on russian sub is degrading isreal to the level of Turkey in diplomatic relations...
Spot on!
Foreign Affairs › Re: (photos) Russia Submarine Bombs ISIS 1500 Miles Away by Appleyard(m): 1:06pm On Dec 12, 2015
ValerianSteel:
My point here is Russia wouldn't dear enter the Mediterranean on a high horse as RT would make us believe Russia has an invisible navy that can make mockery of any other Navy as they've been postulating when Russia sent it's naval fleet into the Caspian,nowhere in the news was it captured Russia informed or announced its intentions to other parties within the Caspian,hence the theory RT wants the world to believe,Almighty Russian navy is invisible.

You do Know Israel operates an underwater nuclear arsenal in the Mediterranean and would not risk a Russian sub going anywhere near it,Russia has to inform Israel else should the sub cruise anywhere near the silo,it would have been sunk by Israeli sub.Russia having knowledge of Israel's Mediterranean control won't risk loosing its sub to unprecedented aggression from Israel.

Clearly Russia wouldn't want a dispute in a territory far from its homeland hence the important announcement to Israel primarily and US,Israel's action is to allow the Russian sub's presence in the Med avoiding any anti-vessel confrontation with Israeli subs as well.

It is not necessarily seeking permission but making intentions known and avoiding confrontations in territorial waters Russia isn't party to.

Am sure my point is duely noted undecided
There is what we call '' international waters'' and '' territorial waters '' of a State. While the formal can't been claimed by any one State, the latter entails restricted waters, within certain internationally recognized nautical miles markings known as boundaries, that falls within the territorial integrity of a State, as governed by international law on maritime and sea. Contrary to what you want to believe, Russia, just like every other nations, are, by law, permitted to use any international waters, the Med inclusive, for any purpose sanctioned by international law, provided that it does not violate or stray into the territorial boundaries of other States. The reason why Russia notified Isreal, is purely out of standard practice and international norms governing military engagement at sea, even in peace time, let alone when hostilities are taken place nearby. That is why you see that even when NATO, Russia, etc, wants to carry out some kind of military drills, especially one on a large scale, involving live fire, it is usually made public. The reasons are very obvious.

Don't forget that it was not only Isreal that was notified. The US was also notified, even when the Med is not close to it's backyard.
And you are also wrong on the Russian Caspian sea fleet. The US and it's coalition were notified ahead before the Russians started their cruise missile lunch show. It was widely reported in the media.

Thus, Russia's all notification to parties concerned, is a normal process, not out of fear, as you are insinuating. Except they plan to stray deep and romance Isreali nuclear silos, which i doubt, because, it would be stupid and suicidal. But as long as that is not the case, the aforementioned practice is normal.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi Kurds Dismiss Russian Claims Of ISIL Oil Sales by Appleyard(m): 10:53am On Dec 12, 2015
ValerianSteel:
I've addressed and redressed a large part of your post recently,I wouldn't stress,my reply wouldn't do justice to an already conceived notion by you though I concur to some parts of this post,just not all.

We'll keep observing Turkey and I await Russia to present the world with a very viable evidence of the IS oil deals naming every single party involved and putting a stop to the incessant attacks on Turkey through the media,if Turkey is not the only one involved,name all the demons involved and stop making Turkey look like the devil,if clearly it is not the only party involved.
Turkey is the one that has made itself look like the devil, not anyone here. As far as IS is concern in Syria, Turkey is its back bone.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi PM: Daesh Oil Goes And Sold Through Turkey by Appleyard(op): 10:32pm On Dec 10, 2015
ValerianSteel:
I've never supported the US led invasion of Iraq.It was one of humanities gross misstep against a country and it's people.

The situation here is a different one.The Syrian Civil war arose out of canpaigns and protests in line with the Arab Spring that arose in the Middle-East.The Syrian crisis is an internal conflict between the citizens of Syria and the ruling power-The Govt-Bashir Al-Assad.

No Western power initiated Syrians against the govt..
I have already answered you on this Syrian uprising issue in a similar thread, so i won't go into details anymore. But one thing you have always failed to grasp, is the concept of the Arab Spring - so called ''democrative fever'' that swept the arab realm, and was chorusly echoed by the MSM as ''the Arab awakening''. Like i said, i won't go into details, cos i just don't have the power to. But i want you to sit down and ask yourself these mind buggling questions:

What was the purpose of the Arab spring?

My small head answer: to usher in democrasy. Right? Good.

Why democracy?
To bring about good governance and respect for fundamental human rights.

What was the expected end result of such a historic process? To have swept all accross the major arab realm and create an enabling process of transformation.

Now lets consider this: what has the arab spring brought five years after? What laws has it created, what new mentality has it aroused amongst the affected States and its people? Today, Tunisia is Tunisia, aside president Abidine, and was never even doing badly economically prior to the Spring. Egypt is still Egypt, with the exception of Mubarak, the country has remain unchanged, and has even taken a more hardened stance against such processes like protesting. Kuwait, Oman, Lebanon et al, saw some minor constitutional changes, but nothing more. The women still wear the sacred jihab, the old ways of life are still the same. The various economics are still mostly centred on natural resource production. So, what good has it brought in its wake? It, in deed, brought a whole lot of good called ''chaos'' - a long time strategy of the US led Anglo Zionist empire of death. The arab spring was meant to create a ''democratic commotion'' that appears in all entirety legit, appealing to the sympathy of the general public, and thus eliciting their support, and which consequently create the much needed impetus and perfect excuse for the dark knight hiding in the shadows to act. This is what is called ''colour coded revolutions'', making use of crowd formations and infiltration, the social medias, NGOs, and other wide varieties of ways. It is imperative to understand that this suffocating but however sophisticated tool for toppling regimes, fits in well against nations of core islamic origin, due to their islamic ways of life, its strong anthemic religious spirit of collectivism, its belief system and general consensus to act in mutuality; all of which makes it the more volatile and easy to sway - hence, the massive spread of the spring. But in all, the AS was meant to achieve mainly TWO DEFINED GOALS- topple and reshape - of the target States, using '' the strategy of divide and conquer'' which is the ultimate reason for the ''chaos''. That is why the only nations that saw outright intervention as the drama unfold was Libya, because they discovered that it wasnt going to plan (just like Syria now) and so they had to move in, under the ruse notion of ''humanity'' , and Ghadaffi was lynched. But many didnt take note of what was going on: how that Ghadafi switched from using the US Dollar to local currency usage in Libya's oil dealings with its buyers, a ''bad'' precedent set by Saddam Hussein, and we all knew how he suddenly got WMD that only existed in Satan's tongue of wonders. Neither did many knew that the Libyan rebels while fighting Ghadafi, had a quickly set up quasi-central Bank within their area. Nor did many consider that there was same reason of government killing of protesters in Cairo, but no NATO Intervention. Why? Its not part of the grand plan. Just as Qatar, and above all, Satan Arabia that still stone people to death, execute christians till date, was not even touch by the AS, let alone NATO interferance. Assad was already towing the same Hussein non-Dollar deals.
They couldnt achieve complete interferance in Syria because Russia threatens complete annihilation of Riyadh, if Assad falls. But the course is still on.

And to show that this was all part of the plan, it was carefully stated by this US General:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-going-to-take-out-7-countries-in-5-years-iraq-syria-lebanon-libya-somalia-sudan-iran/5166

That is the war Syria is facing now. Sudan broken up, Libya, destroyed, Ghadafi dead. Iraq, destroyed and still bleeding, Lebanon shakened, though Hezbollah stood gallantly against Isreal. Somalia is dying a natural death. Iran is for now mission impossible.
SYRIA....
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi PM: Daesh Oil Goes And Sold Through Turkey by Appleyard(op): 5:19pm On Dec 10, 2015
ValerianSteel:
The funny and interesting aspect of these claims by both Russia and the Iraqi PM is that they only felt the urge to speak up until they were agitated by actions from Turkey.

Russia knowing about the oil smuggling kept quiet until her jets were shot down by Turkey.Iraq on the other hand kept mute all these while until it could no longer entertain Turkish incursions in Iraq.

It all boils down to,it's either there's a bigger truth that both parties(Russia and Iraq) were scared of hence their failure in admitting the illegal oil deals earlier.
OR
Their claims are just attempts at bad mouthing their new found foe-Turkey.
Ask yourself: when did Russia get involve militarily in Syria? And what was the condition of relations between Ankara and Moscow prior to the shooting down of the fighter? And also between Iraq and Turkey, prior to the Turkish incursion into northern Iraq, notwithstanding the situation with IS on ground in Iraq? When you have answered these questions, then you should understand why such info and outcry is coming out at this time now, never minding the sensitive nature of such infos, as it relates to bilateral relationships, especially one on a larger scale. And be it known to you that even before the ugly incident of the down plane occurred, Moscow, during the G-20 meeting, had said earlier that, '' 40 nations are sponsoring ISIS, by having direct and indirect dealings with it, and that ''some members of the G20 (Turkey is a member) are involved in its illicit oil.''
That was wayback before the crisis started between the two. And it didnt take long for Turkey to expose it self, just as they are currently exposing themselves now over in Syria. Fighting ISIS is the litmus test, and anyone that signed up to fight and defeat ISIS only to turn around and do the opposite, is prima facie, in bed with ISIS. There are no two ways to it.

Again, the likes of Iran have also been complaining about Turkey - IS dealing, way before the Russian intervention: and even the US vice president in 2014, have lambasted Turkey for supporting and aiding ISIS. How best can one aid and support ISIS order than in weaponry and trading their oil? By Marrying their wives or what?

No matter how one try to spin it, Turkey is in bed with ISIS. Its no longer secret.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi Kurds Dismiss Russian Claims Of ISIL Oil Sales by Appleyard(m): 4:03pm On Dec 10, 2015
seagulsntrawler:
well done for lecturing those western apologists. No objective and rational mind would fall for the lies and misinformation of the main stream media controlled by the US and her allies.
One even believed that Assad created ISIS.gringrin
Keep up the good work bro. More grease to your elbow.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi Kurds Dismiss Russian Claims Of ISIL Oil Sales by Appleyard(m): 4:00pm On Dec 10, 2015
NairaMinted:
I can't help but think that perhaps if Uncle Sam wasn't on Turkey's side and protecting her, Uncle Sam would have used its formidable international clout and surveillance network to release the accounts through which these sales are laundered.

Unfortunately this won't happen.


I'm back guys! And back in full force cos Oga Putin was worried I wasn't meeting my propaganda quota.
grin grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: (photos) Russia Submarine Bombs ISIS 1500 Miles Away by Appleyard(m): 3:27pm On Dec 10, 2015
ValerianSteel:
The internet always making a buzz whenever Russia presses a button undecided Anyways as long as they take out ISIS,all good.

Oh,let's not forget,Almighty Russia took Permission from Israel and informed US before entering the Mediterranean.



www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35041656
Since when does ''inform'' translate to ''taking permission''?

When Russia was to commence hostilities in Syria, it gave the US 1hr notice, which means, informing the US of its military intensions. It is standard practice done to avoid unintended consequencies/incidence. It is not ''seeking permission''.
Foreign Affairs › Re: (photos) Russia Submarine Bombs ISIS 1500 Miles Away by Appleyard(m): 3:12pm On Dec 10, 2015
fineguy11:
That's a warning to NATO,.Russia will see this war to the finish..300 air sorties between saturday and today, hiting over 600 targets..currently,the ASSAD govt has taken over the the de-facto capital of the rebels(HOMS)after reaching a cease fire with them..meanwhile,Turkey is seriously crying,their investment(The Turkmen) are being bathed left,right and centre with balistic missiles.http://www.ibtimes.com.au/russia-goes-ballistic-syria-turkey-issues-warning-1490498
Of all the external parties involved in the syrian war,only one happens to be achieving its Objectives,he's the leader of the country below,,.
Well said. But i think what is happening now, is more than just revenge for the downing of the plane: that is, relating to the heavy Russian bombardment of the Turkmen area. Apart from the fact that Russia is testing new and existing capabilities (following the deployment of some of its state of the art capabilities,) i believe they are goading Turkey into committing an insane act once again, the reasons best known to them. Russia and Syria have already killed more Turkmen that should more than compensate for the downed Su24, talking about blood for blood in relative terms. They have also ensured that Turkish aid convoys are repeatedly hit to the ires of Turkish authorities. Since Turkey can no longer fly missions into Syria for obvious reasons, ground forays is now the only most viable options for it's forces to realise it's interest in Syria; but this too is increasingly becoming costly as they are repeatedly attacked by Russian air forces, plus the fact that, once Syria (now moving towards that direction) is able to close that part of it's border with Turkey, it would be game over for Turkey. Erdogan actually fired an air to air missile against himself when he downed that plane. Currently the Russians are living to their words, '' we will make them remember over and over again''.

As regarding ISIS, though they have been seriously hit and shakened by the Russian bombardment, victory is far from over, especially now that coalition air planes has, openly for the first time, hitted the SAA, (though they denied it was deliberate,) immediately after which ISIS attacked that location, entails that alot of mayhem is still ahead of us, most especially when planes starts falling from the skies.
But in all these, the mist around one particular picture is now getting clearer. The ruse notion of fighting ISIS in Syria, is gradually unmasking the true financiers and major supporters of that evil body. The fact that this can still lead to a major conflagaration, is still very much real.
Foreign Affairs › Re: (photos) Russia Submarine Bombs ISIS 1500 Miles Away by Appleyard(m): 12:33pm On Dec 10, 2015
scully95:
Daesh says that the Russian Kalibr cruise missiles were not that effective because only 32 of the 33 terrorists hit were evaporated on impact. The last one only lost his left arm and righ leg. That is all. Other than that, they thank Allah for his protection.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi Kurds Dismiss Russian Claims Of ISIL Oil Sales by Appleyard(m): 12:03pm On Dec 10, 2015
ValerianSteel:
Oh God,just stop it.

Assad turned his country into rubles,cause the Syrian civil war started in 2011,while ISIL became fully operational in 2014,though they emerged in 2013.

ISIS is just an excuse to keep Assad in power,cause his country was already torn apart prior to ISIS activities.

You keep accusing Turkey of this and that,yet there's no substantial evidence to point accusing fingers.Mind you I've never called Turkey a saint in the war against ISIS,I wouldn't call Russia a savior either,am just saying let there be evidence that clearly shows that Turkey is in bed with ISIS and other terrorist element.

As you said yourself :It has more to do with a whole lot of concentrated governmental administrative machinery.

And I add- not limited to Turkey alone,but cut across those claiming to be fighting ISIS as well.
Thank you. But it seem you are still understanding this whole terrorism setup. The foundation for the emergence of IS terrorism was laid as far back as in 2003, following the planned invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan for no sin of theirs, which was only a taste of what is to come; for most of the now jobless Iraqi soldiers together with dissindents created by the wars in the region, became a time bome only waiting to be employed. The Arab Spring, which was just another ''colour coded revolution'' in ''democratic cloak'', emerged in 2010-2012, successfully removing and destroying long established and firmly rooted though dictatorial but stabled regimes that would have been an obstacle to any emergence of a centralize and territorially strong terrorists organisations like ISIS. Thus, with such regimes taken out of the equation, the destablization and violence that followed in it's wake, coupled with the already available waiting hands and mayhem created in the aftermath of the Iraqi and Afghan ruse wars, the current child of global terrorism calleo ISIS was born - the topling and destruction of Libya being the icing on the cake. This whole thing was pre-planned and completely interwoven with the current reality of events. See the confession of formal US five-star General and supreme allied NATO commander, Gen. Wesley Clark, here:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-going-to-take-out-7-countries-in-5-years-iraq-syria-lebanon-libya-somalia-sudan-iran/5166



and you would understand that Assad never destroyed his own country.

ISIS was a means to an end, and Syria is currently the major stumbling block to a realisation of a part of that goal, having resolved to fight for its destiney.
Don't be fooled. There is nothing like moderate rebels. They are the same terrorist acronymized tools employed by the CIA to pave the way for the necessary funds to topple yet another Washington led Anglo Neo con disliked regime.


As for Turkey, what else do you need to accept the obvious? Even the US can't hide it any more, though it doesn't formally accept that fact, which is expected. It has said Turkey's efforts has not been directed against IS, and the need to close the border. Top politicians in both US law making chambers are going on air indicting Turkey for same thing, including formal army and intelligence officers - all chorusing the same mantra in the States. So, this people have no evidence, they just speak base on assumptions, or what? Turkish forces has been filmed fraternizing with ISIS accross the border, some Turkish generals have been jailed for daring to intercept shipments of militants and armoury to Erdogan's goals in Syria; journalists are not spared either: one have been killed, and two others imprisoned for the same thing. Some opposition leaders who claimed to have damning evidence regarding Erdogan's family dealings with IS oil, are suddenly fallen down dead. The testimony of the wahabi nurse working in a covert hospital run by Erdogan's daughter, caring for IS wounded men, is no longer news, and has even been reported by the most critic and anti-Russian western medias like the dailymail and co.
It is no secret that ISIS oil goes to Turkey enmass. Now, lets use basic common sense here: if hundreds of IS truck load of crude oil are crossing the border into Turkey, which claimed to have about 50,000 troops stationed there, doesnt that tells you they are complicit? Or should we say those long convoys of tankers have some ''invisible cloak'' that makes them undetected while crossing the Syrian-Turkish border, which is the only possible route they can use from the northern part of the territory they control, eh?
Their underground tunnel has been bombed by the Russians, and the only other possible way to move its oil from Syria, is through Turkey, and this can never be possible without the full complicity of the Turkish army, which in turn, entails a wide range of administrative machinery as grandeur of government involvement. The whole world knew IS oil goes to Turkey, and tankers load of oil is not a gun you can hide under the ampit.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi Kurds Dismiss Russian Claims Of ISIL Oil Sales by Appleyard(m): 9:48pm On Dec 08, 2015
Missy89:
Lol is this the best you can do? Ehen Appleyard? shocked
What do want me to say na....H6w can a man fighting for his life at the same time be in bed with the same people that wants to kill him? Am short of words.....
Well, i will come back to this later.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi Kurds Dismiss Russian Claims Of ISIL Oil Sales by Appleyard(m): 9:29pm On Dec 08, 2015
Missy89:
Appleyard : Which of the Russian bank and businessmen? Roll them out.
grin grin Laugh wan finish me o, Missy. Now, i did say and still maintain that alot of group/factional and individual interest are very much involve in all these takfiris oil hullabaloo, and if Haswani (who is not even a Russian per se, though a citizen nonetheless) is fingered as one of such individuals, it only confirms my fears. But saying that Assad is in bed with ISIS, the same terrorist organization that has turn his country into a heap of rubble, and want his head on a plate of grenades, is outright rubbish, senseless, and totally baseless. So, Assad brought in Russia to fight and defeat in the open the same people he is in bed with? Common, Turkey can do better. And the worst part is that, Russia as a state is supposely complicit in this, when it is no secret that oil prices as they are1. Is hurting the Russians so much, and this ISIS illegal oil trading is another contributive factor to that effect, for which, coupled with the ''pipeline tussle'', forms the onion that dictated the always unavoidable Russian intervention? This , save for the individual. part, renders this dailybeast or mail theorem useless.

We are talking of state sponsoring terrorism here, and the most outstanding one so far is Turkey. Even the Iraqi Prime Minister just said the same thing. This ISIS dealing go far beyond any single individual. It has more to do with a whole lot of concentrated governmental administrative machinery.

I will check that second link soon and reply later on.

And that lluyazhadenov side rolling with UFOs is a rib cracker. Maybe the man wants to sell crude oil to aliens afterall.,
grin grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi Kurds Dismiss Russian Claims Of ISIL Oil Sales by Appleyard(m): 8:10pm On Dec 08, 2015
mazeltov:
what evidence do we need again? There are so many proofs which have been publicised as regards to this isis and their funder. I have never for once argue about the romantic relationship between Turkey/west and IsIs. My posts are there for confirmation. Even America has divided over this same issue of the Islamist - but in all fairness of truth and modesty, these people won't stop using Isis as their remoted military puppet to pave ways for their interest in the gulf states and middle east until they strike back. Sometime, a dog could bite its owner - and that's why I hardly engage myself in that section of conversation ; and the way I am seeing it, it seems Turkey's interest in this isis is wider than that of America, Turkey have gone a long way in flaunting that interest to world. I am waiting for the day Isis will attack America and that's when you will see that the war is nearer than before.
So much sense, so much sense, so much sense. Infact, i am seriously considering leaving this section for a while because the way some people show lack of common sense, is very sad and pathetic to behold. Can you immagine that somebody here was rejoicing when people got killed in that terrorist attack over the skies of Egypt, simply because he hate their president? Man is in deed, a wonderful creature. As touching the use of ISIS as a front by some states to achieve their selfish objectives and personal interest, when that process will backfire, then they would remember that what goes around, always come round. Just that we might not have an opportunity to regret it all, because, as more and more major powers continue to converge over the Syrian skies, unintended miscalculation may occur, which may further lead to intended consequencies, reactions against reactions, and then BOOM!!...a major conflagaration erupt, and the only winners (even though they won't be around to sun their murderous teeth) would be the likes of ISIS and the rest of the Satanist, because they never care much about this life, so to speak. For we are gradually playing into the hands of Alois Irlmaier's prophecy.. Pls, check it out and watch Syria, Turkey, Iraq, etc, and the Balkans..

Man is a failed project.


http://www.messagetoeagle.com/alois-irlmaiers-scary-prophecy-about-world-war-iii/
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi PM: Daesh Oil Goes And Sold Through Turkey by Appleyard(op): 7:26pm On Dec 08, 2015
So, hundreds of truckload of crude can cross your border without the complicit of the authorities that matters? Maybe they have some invisible cloak that streches hundreds of kilometres, shey?

This exactly what some gentlemen gagged up in their kiddie blindman defence of a terrorist sponsoring government like Erdogan's want us to believe and accept. Now that the people that matters are confirming the say thing, what says you gringoos? Another Russian lie? This ain't Russia talking, so?
Foreign Affairs › Iraqi PM: Daesh Oil Goes And Sold Through Turkey by Appleyard(op): 7:09pm On Dec 08, 2015
For those terrorist apologist and boko sympathisers:

Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi says Daesh Takfiri terrorist group carries out the majority of its oil smuggling through Turkey.

Abadi made the remarks in a meeting with German Foreign Minister Frank Walter Steinmeier in Baghdad on Monday, during which he highlighted the “importance of stopping oil smuggling by [Daesh] terrorist gangs, the majority of which is smuggled via Turkey,” his office said in a statement.
The remarks came as tensions have been on the rise in Baghdad-Ankara relations over Turkey’s deployment of troops to northern Iraq and Daesh oil smuggling via Turkish territory.

On Saturday, Abadi urged Turkey to withdraw its several hundred forces immediately from Iraq’s northern Nineveh Province and called Ankara’s move “an incursion”.
Turkey, accused of supporting Daesh terror group, claims the deployment is a routine rotation to train Iraqis to retake Mosul from Daesh, which captured Iraq’s second-largest city in 2014.

Accusations over Turkey’s role in Daesh oil smuggling were also raised by Russia. On November 30, Russian President Vladimir Putin said he received additional information confirming that Daesh had been conducting its oil sales via Turkey.
A screen grab from a video released by the Russian Defense Ministry shows Russian jets targeting a convoy of Daesh tankers transporting oil.
Russia has on several occasions accused Turkey of buying illegal oil from Daesh. The terrorist group is smuggling oil from the areas which it has overrun in Iraq and Syria, selling it to middlemen in the region. Russian military planes, which are used for an aerial campaign against Daesh and other militant groups, have repeatedly targeted trucks used by Daesh to smuggle oil.

On November 29, Iraqi MP Mowaffak al-Rubaie said Daesh had made more than USD 800 million in black market oil sales in Turkey over the last eight months.
“This is Iraqi oil and Syrian oil, carried by trucks from Iraq, from Syria through the borders to Turkey and sold … [at] less than 50 percent of the international oil price
,” Rubaie added.
He further noted that the oil is either refined and used in Turkey or sold on the international market.
Turkey has rejected oil trade with Daesh with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan saying that he will step down if the accusation is proven to be true
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/12/55514/
Foreign Affairs › Re: Is Overthrowing The Syrian Government Worth Risking A Nuclear War With Russia? by Appleyard(m): 3:12pm On Dec 08, 2015
NairaMinted2:
I don't know whats up with the spambot and this thread!
It appears that even the spambots don't love the Truth. grin but not like those bunch of terrorists sympathizers we have down here who rejoice when ever ISIS scores a point against those truely fighting it.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Is Overthrowing The Syrian Government Worth Risking A Nuclear War With Russia? by Appleyard(m): 3:00pm On Dec 08, 2015
OutThere:
This woman had better watch her back. Thats all I can say. JFK also sang a similar tune. See what happened to him and his family - many generations down...
Yeah. They killed JFK, simply for refusing to be controlled. But this woman is not alone. Some other prominent figures are now speaking out. People like Senator Richard Black, congress man, Austin Scott, and his counterpart, Rebekkah, are all voicing out their anger and fear to the public, even making it clear that Turkey has been in bed with ISIS all along.
But to some gentlemen parotting down here on Nairaland, they are just Russian lovers and propagandists; not until when all patience and tolerance runs out, and those nuclear pins starts flying, even as we move closer to fulfilling of Alois Irlmair's prophecy, such and many more will continue to hail and dance for the only true terrorist nation that has invaded and killed more people than anyone else in history-the United States of Anarchy. May God help this generation.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Basurin: Kiev Has Amassed 238 Tanks, 101 Ceasefire Violations Over The Past Wee by Appleyard(m): 2:31pm On Dec 08, 2015
I feel alot sorry for the Ukraine and it's puppet regime. Any where the US touch in the name of democracy, goes up in flames. They still have not learned, and it appears they will never learn. Another build up, another Debacelvo looming. Since the Ukrainian junta seem to fancy being in the middle of a caudrome, i wish them God speed..
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi Kurds Dismiss Russian Claims Of ISIL Oil Sales by Appleyard(m): 2:05pm On Dec 08, 2015
NairaMinted2:
Turkish planes violate Greek and Syrian airspace with abandon.

Turkish troops are presently in Iraqi territory uninvited.

Not a word from the pro-Turkish bandwagon!


Fact is, Russia has provided satellite imagery of the massive oil smuggling exercise from stolen Syrian and Iraqi crude oil overseen and enabled by member of the Turkish government, yet these images have been waved aside as "fabrications"


Members of the Turkish press, parliament and military are being jailed or silenced for outing the complicity of the Turkish government and/or refusing to follow orders and yet these are waved aside also as irrelevant events. These arrested individuals we must accept are paid Russian trolls or bots just like the rest of the hope.less bots we find aplenty here on Nairaland. They are just "making mouth" with no shred of evidence that Turkish goverment is complict in this conspiracy.

Several Western (British, American, German, etc) news media have carried these reports of the massive oil trade being carried out across the Turkish border and how the Turkish border guards look away or allow their posts to be thinly manned but these are disregard as unfounded rumours and Russian propaganda. As a matter of fact, Turkish soldiers have been videod at the border fratenizing with ISIS foot soldiers but we gotta assume that these must be some sorta Russian voodoo trick.

A reporter, Serena Shim has mysteriously died while reporting on the illict trade between ISIS and the Turkish government. What's more, the investigation (or lack thereof) of her death has been beset by secrecy and intimidation but hey, who gives a hoot! This is the Turkish government we are talking about here; vetted and protected by NATO enagaged in a noble war against the "Russian aggressor"

The US VIce president himself has accused the Turkish government has far back as 2014 of aiding and abetting Islamic fundamentalists but hey, we should pay
no attention to that raging lun.a.tic who undoubtedly suffers bouts of dementia.

At the end of the day:

TURKEY = GOOD

RUSSIA = BAD


No matter what!

Ok na!
Yeah, just as US congressional woman, Tulsi Gabbard, her counterpart, Austin Scot, and Senator Richard Black, that went publicly on air with CNN and lambasted Turkey and the CIA on the same issue, are all ''Russian trolls'' and ''propagandist,'' so says some hypnotized gentlemen of nairaland, whom, with the exemption of the likes of Mazeltov, Miss89 et tal, cant sieve facts from fallacy, using basic common sense in a given situation. And when they start a discourse, you see the kiddie in them by their use of gutter language, while basking in their warped deusional euphorial of ''authenticity,'' because to them,there ''Must'' be no cross-examination, even if it is coming from their own section of the stands, like the lofty examples you have cited. Such is the nature of those with an ''absolute'' mindset.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi Kurds Dismiss Russian Claims Of ISIL Oil Sales by Appleyard(m): 12:24pm On Dec 08, 2015
Missy89:
What is your take on the Russian bank and business men helping Syria to trade IS oil?
Which of the Russian bank and businessmen? Roll them out.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi Kurds Dismiss Russian Claims Of ISIL Oil Sales by Appleyard(m): 3:26pm On Dec 07, 2015
Exactly my point.. Whole lot of groups selfish interest.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Breaking:several Syrian Army Soldiers Dead,after Western Coalition Strikes. by Appleyard(m): 2:39pm On Dec 07, 2015
This whole thing is gradually spreading like hamattan fire. We are gradually reaching a point of no return.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Germany Warns Saudi Arabia Over Islamist Funding. by Appleyard(m): 2:28pm On Dec 07, 2015
smsomega:
grin grin Funny if you ask me, how will you stop them from funding the fundamental doctrine on which their religion is based. angry
If you ask me, na who i go ask? It seem Germany has forgotten that Satan Arabia was founded on the principle of wahabism.
Foreign Affairs › Re: U.S. Air Force Admits It's Running Out Of Bombs To Drop On ISIS Targets In Syria by Appleyard(m): 1:44pm On Dec 07, 2015
Underground:
- Not enough bombs to bomb Daesh but apparently enough to bomb Syrian government forces and Syrian infrastructure.
- Flatly refusing to acknowledge that Turkey is a major smuggler and financier of stolen Iraqi and Syrian oil despite the overwhelming evidence.
- Announcing 15/16 months ago that that their aim is to degrade and ultimately defeat ISIS but yet within those months, ISIS has seized more territory such as Palmyra. Those territorial gains were rolled back ONLY when Russia intervened.

And so on and on.....

We know who is really fighting terror and we can't be deceived any longer...
grin The excuse is so funny that if not for it seriousness regarding the position of the US as a super power, it would have pass for a Mr Bean comic series. How on earth can the US with largest arsenal of all forms of conventional capabilities, a country that fought two wars at the same time, say they have ran out of bombs against a non national personality like ISIS? 20,000 bombs: practically they are saying that there is virtually not enough bombsh say upto 20,000 remaining in store back home...huh? I know that the US, like all other governments, tell certain lies, but this really embarrasing and absurd. The lying general and Mr. Warren should just say the MIC complex needs more money by increasing funds to the military, instead of this silly trick.
Foreign Affairs › Re: U.S. Air Force Admits It's Running Out Of Bombs To Drop On ISIS Targets In Syria by Appleyard(m): 1:02pm On Dec 07, 2015
fineguy11:
20,000 BOMBS AND MISSILES and yet ISIS still remains as strong as ever..let it be noted,that non of that 20,000 b0mbs were dropped on ISIS oil facilities(daesh main source of income)at least not until Russia started targeting these facilities.so the question remains,WHAT HAVE THEY BEING BOMBING WITH 20,000 BOMBS.ans=SYRIAN INFRASTRUCTURES.
Plus the numerous air dropped weapons to ISIS and so-called moderate rebels.
Foreign Affairs › Re: U.S. Air Force Admits It's Running Out Of Bombs To Drop On ISIS Targets In Syria by Appleyard(m): 12:57pm On Dec 07, 2015
orlando5:
Ahh US can lie o shocked
na wetin dey vex Satan pass be dat. Somebody lie pass am. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iraqi Kurds Dismiss Russian Claims Of ISIL Oil Sales by Appleyard(m): 12:47pm On Dec 07, 2015
Missy89:
Are you saying the Kurds are in bed with Turkey?
Not really. But one thing i have come to realize is that, there seem to be be alot of personal, factional/group interests dictating much of the play in this whole scenario, rather than much of the collective interest in realizing generally stated objectives. If not, how on earth should the same kurds who have been pumelled right, left and centre both by ISIS and majorly by Turkish proxies via the influx of huge amount of weaponry and personel through the Turkish-Syrian corridor, now been presented with an opportunity to hieve a sigh of relief and possibly turn the tide a bit in their favour, suddenly are the ones that are against it closure? Why? Something is definitly not right somewhere: and like they say, war, however dirty, is really a profitable business. This is the largest ethnic group (if am not mistaken) in the world, yet with no country of their own (lips sealed: not insinuating anything..).
The Russians have dealt a massive blow to ISIS and to its partners in crime in illicit oil dealings, and no amount of propaganda or rhetorical excupatory stance base on group, factional or a certain nation's interest and ideology, can change that. This much is true, base on the insane reaction we have seen from the other side of the fence, struck with frustration and excruciating pain from the Bear's wrath of Jah aerial bombardment, which have been so successful that he Government of Afghanistan is now begging Russia to come and help fight the Talibans -- just another example of American epic failure in foreign policy.

If this rebuttal was coming from Bagdad itself, it would have been substantial and considerable enough. But coming from the KRG is like Eric Donaldson's '' coming in from the cold.'' And it will interest you to know that the same kurds who once admitted that some US special Ops are fighting alongside them against ISIS, have said that the US is hindering their success against ISIS, and they have vowed to attack US forces if the US deploy ground troops to Iraq.

So far, the only people i know that are overwhelmingly and passionately figting this bunch of Takfiris, hell-bound sons of Cain, are those in Bagdad, Damascus, and Moscow.

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