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Foreign Affairs › Re: Breaking News: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet For Violating Its Airspace by Appleyard(m): 11:49pm On Nov 24, 2015
cyprus000:
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By my on calculation. I don't think russia will want a direct confrontation at the moment.
www.nairaland.com/2760086/russia-deploys-missile-cruiser-off Considering the fact that NATO is conscious of possible russian retaliation.
By going through putin's statement. You will deduce russian stand on this saga.www.nairaland.com/2759443/russian-president-vladmir-putin-speaks russia will get her own pound of flesh,but it will not be now. It will strike militarily when the storm is calm and NATO is less consciouse. At the moment,it will thread the part of economic sanction,while it lay trap militarily. I foresee assad declearing no fly zone in turkish syrian border. This will give russia leverage to toast any turkish plane on sight conducting strike against kurdish YPG or her sabotaging bombing advanture against ISIL.

The tactical nuke team, is heading syria just incase.
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Well noted and resoundly analysed, soulja.smiley i think Russia would go for the second option-let the storm calm down a bit. Keep them in suspense, and just as Ankara thinks it has had its way, then gboooom......the sucker punch. I tell ya, sleepless nights will increase right now in Turkey. I dont expect a Russian direct retaliation against Turkey, plus the fact that this might just open up options like a Syrian government issuance of a no fly zone in Syria to be enforced by the Russians in bed with France who have not hidden its loathing of Turkey at anytime. The Russian retaliation may most likely be covert, but make no mistake about it, this will mark the end of Turkish air violations of Syrian airspace, cause anytime they will enter from now, it would be suicide. They wont even recieve a warning.
Erdogan fvcked up big time. He just started a game he can not finish.

I only hope that this should not lead to something more sinister.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 11:30pm On Nov 24, 2015
Shymm3x:
Turkey is on its own. Endogan was basically just mad they destroyed his oil smuggling facilities and decided to attack cos of a non- existent NATO cover.

He will start begging in the coming weeks. Nobody wants that drama in Europe.
You are correct. The man committed a fatal mistake that he would regret shortly. Thinking that Nato would fight for him when things starts boiling, is an indication that the man is strategically flawed from head to toe. Europe doesnt have the stomach for another major war, and certainly not one against Moscow. They will just abardone him to face his own peril, other than talking tough and sabre-rattling. Nothing would come from Nato, not at a time when the EU is facing an economic downhill, bringing in an issue that would further worsen the situation, is not something most EU bigwigs fancied right now. Erdogan erred big time on this, except he had something up his sleeves, especially now that it is becoming clear that the plane wasnt downed in Turkish territory.

Sir, i am not a war monger, nor one that delights in evil like some happy '' downed Russian plane '' zombies down here, but something tells me that sh*t is about to hit that cursed mideast, and that nations like Nigeria may just be the unintended winner afterall, ditto the international price of oil.

God help the souls of the innocents. Erdogan just rolled the Mideast into a point of no return.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 11:05pm On Nov 24, 2015
Shymm3x:
Lool.

But is there even anything called "5th gen jets" since they were/are all utter failures and nothing stealthy about the ones produced?

F-22 is a fancy 4.5th gen jets with oxygen problems and it has never been tested in combat. Waste of money.

If an obsolete SAM could shoot down US' F-117 Nighthawk stealth bomber over Serbia, the s400 will destroy F-22 before it leaves its base. And that's if the oxygen problem doesn't kill the pilot. grin
Some people just holla when they hear the term '' stealth '' as if it makes you totally invisible to the enemy. If Iran could shoot down am Isreali stealth drone and also commandeered and captured a US stealth drone, i wonder how the F-22 can survive against the S400 that is also meant to defend against stealthyness. Not to mention that the Russians are far superior to Iran in terms of cyber and missile capability.

But not to digress, alarm bells are now ringing in Turkey for obvious reasons. I just hope Russia doesnt take things too high for the sake of peace.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 10:45pm On Nov 24, 2015
Shymm3x:
F-22? - don't let me laugh. grin
The same plane that cost a prime minister his job.......gringrin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 10:08pm On Nov 24, 2015
RevDesmondJuju:
A supersonic jet travelling at 1800kmph can easily cover 3km in 3 secs.

The jet turned back and headed into Syria.

Or how are the Turks going to explain how come the Russian jet ended up back in Syria?

The Turks are Fcked over this.


There is no way Erdogan can defend this open act of foolish brazen aggression.
Pls tell that to the zombies brazenly celebrating the criminal act of terrorist sympathizers. By the time the repercussions starts kicking off, you wont see them here again.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 10:00pm On Nov 24, 2015
belabela:
You are a joker who try to claim he knows but knows nothing.

Can you even comprehend a simple statement. Every nation vilolates each other's airspace...but shooting down aircraft is war. The standard of violation is protest...have you ever heard of nations scrambling aircarft for violation of their airspace. If every nation shoot down jets that vilate their airspace then there may be no more civilised world. Hence Turkey is escalating things to a new level

What triggers a nuclear war?

There has never been a nuclear war in human history. The only time nuclear weapon was used it was only one nation that had it - the US.

Now there are a few nations with nuclear weapons.

When war starts nations are free to use the weapons in their arsenal so you never know when there will be a nuclear war. That is why the world avoids war with nuclear armed nations. A good example is North Korea. Nobody wants to see nuclear war.

NATO's only response so far is that they are monitoring the situation and have called an emergency meeting. Those who understand the situation know that it is very serious.

Nobody knows how things will turn out but NATO knows that Russia will respond - not sure what the response will be.
Once again, matured response with facts and prevailing common sense. Ride on.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 9:52pm On Nov 24, 2015
RevDesmondJuju:
This is what the Russians are saying:

The Russians where targeting a convoy of ISIS militants near the Turkish border.

They dispatched fighters to engage them

One jet strayed 3km into Turkish airspace which translates to 3 seconds of flight time.

The jet was shut down in Syrian airspace by 3 Turkish F-16s from within the Turkish Airspace.

The Turks can not send 10 warnings in 3 seconds.

The pilot jettisoned his aircraft and was lynched to death by ISIS members on ground.


Turkey is in deep sh1t¡ this was a deliberate aggressive strike and an open declaration of war with Russia

Already sirens are blurring all over turkey and everyone has been advised to stay in doors.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 9:44pm On Nov 24, 2015
RevDesmondJuju:
Putin can not afford to let this slide because he already warned any nation that stands in the way of Russia will suffer the consequences.

And if you follow the man, Putin you will find out that he likes proving his adversaries wrong just as he did to that bastard in the white house who said Russia was a mere regional player. Less than a month after that statement Putin declared Russia's presence in Syria.

Putin will react and it will be viscous.

Thank you roasted Turkey for ending the world.


Daft turks
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 9:36pm On Nov 24, 2015
Shymm3x:
Anyway, one country was predicted to get a tactical nuclear bomb as Xmas gift from Santa this year.

It looks like Turkey and crazed Erdogan are topping the list for Santa's gift. grin
gringrin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 9:35pm On Nov 24, 2015
Shymm3x:
Anyway, one country was predicted to get a tactical nuclear bomb as Xmas gift from Santa this year.

It looks like Turkey and crazed Erdogan are topping the list for Santa's gift. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 9:25pm On Nov 24, 2015
belabela:
You talk like a kid.

In the military shooting down an enemy aircarft/satellite/helicopter is equal to declaration of war. The fact now is that this said plane was downed in Syria. It crashed in Syria not Turkey.

NATO is currently drafting a response because it is a very serious issue.

Russia has called security meeting and called it a very serious "incident"

A pilot is reported dead and the other captured.

Just to lecture you NATO though big is not a country and need parliamentary approval from member nations. It will be most difficult to sell a war with Russia to people of Europe who largely support Russian war on ISIS. This aircraft was in comabt mission againt alnusura ( alqueda in Syria), did not shoot at Turkey. Now Turkey destroyed the aircarft and "killed" a pilot.

Violation of airsapce happen all the time. Turkey violated Grecce airpace twice last month. You scramble aircarft to protest...but shooting a plane down leading to death...wake up kid...that's how major wars start...from killing some unkown politican...to shotting down a military jet
Thank God we still have people with critical thinking and common sense. I they follow you.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 9:16pm On Nov 24, 2015
Shymm3x:
I knew the whole Paris false flag was basically a plan by NATO to move assets to the mediterranean.

Now that they have got a lot of assets there - they gave Turkey the green light to instigate shiit. grin

These folks are crazy, I tell ya.
And by the time the consequencies starts taking its toll, Turkey will realise that indoor politics in NATO is mostly centered on self interest and aggradisement. The way they rushed to NATO immediately after the crash, speaks volume of what is at stake, lending credence to your theory. When shit will start to fly, many will realize that article 5 of NATO only exist against weak states, if not only on paper.

Brother, sh1t is about to hit the fan, just that i dont know which direction.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 9:07pm On Nov 24, 2015
RevDesmondJuju:
I see some boko bastards are rejoicing over this....

Well, this has already backfired on the Turks as their currency took a major hit.

I know Erdogan has a hard on for ISIS and is having wet dreams of becoming the new Sultan, but what he doesn't know is that Russia fights dirty.

The illegal oil trade between Turkey and the Islamic State is why Turkey of all people dared to shoot a Russian jet. And I also know for a fact that the Turkish president is a confirmed boko.

Putin will react viciously and when he does I don't want to hear any boko complain
Now you can understand why the likes of boko haram is still excelling, when you have people rejoicing like this, know that terrorism thrives big time among commoners like this. That is the sinful human nature for you-rejoicing in evil against the better good.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 9:01pm On Nov 24, 2015
Shymm3x:
Lol.

How can a plane allegedly "violating" Turkish airspace crash in Syria? grin

These folks just want a big war. The Russians will send a missile to Turkey soon. grin
I did raise the same issue with this outrageous scenario. A plane alledged to have been shot over Syrian air space crashed 4km from the border into Syria. How is that possible? Some of us just lack basic sense of reasoning. Like you rightly noted, they want a broader war and draw Russia attention from the main goal at hand, and believe me, Turkey will get just that. I only hope that the Russian response in whatever way should be fairly proportional, not go beyond. Otherwise, we will be gradually paving the way for a larger crisis of global proportion.

The middle eas is about to see hell . God help us all.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 8:43pm On Nov 24, 2015
Idrismusty97:
What would Russia do? Nuke Turkey? Turkey is a NATO member, An attack on them would draw all the other NATO members. Russia would be careful with their approach, this isn't the time to escalate matter. Putin should just focus on ISIS and Syria, thats more important. The West are just trying to draw away his attention, Russia shouldn't take the bait. Turkey is in a delicate position now, A civil war could erupt any time. They would regret this action in time, Russia would greatly fund and armed any rebel group that may rise against Erdogan and Turkey(The Kurds comes to mind). It would be a proxy war. And Turkey should kiss goodbye to ever violating Syria airspace again, They are use to that. Even if Turkey violate Syria airspace by an inch, Kaboom! cheesy

Well judging from this Putin speech it seems this would escalate. Putin decides to take the bait, Turkey is in for real shît!


Such insult! They down a Russian jet and turn to NATO to discuss the incident? Screw proxy war and NATO, Russia should completely obliterate that terrorist country! Damn the consequences.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3113695_turkey_jpeg474a0d9a6941e348fb23a1c016451847
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 8:30pm On Nov 24, 2015
bonechamberlain:
why would he step down, who instigated the crisis in his country, was it not the west because the dint want him. Assad has always said he would step down if Syrians don't need him again and not some rag rag rebels and terrorist sponsored by America and its allies.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet Near Syrian Border by Appleyard(m): 8:28pm On Nov 24, 2015
Rich4god:
End time seems to be much more closer than the nairaland crew makes it seem......

If not for the politics that all these world leaders play... How will someone shoot down a plane that is on a mission to attack terrorist...

Anyhw they want to bomb, let them bomb.... As long as Africa is kept out of the equation...
Foreign Affairs › Re: Breaking News: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet For Violating Its Airspace by Appleyard(m): 2:00pm On Nov 24, 2015
Underground:
The next hours and days may unfortunately be memorable in the worst possible way. May cool heads prevail.......
Foreign Affairs › Re: Breaking News: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet For Violating Its Airspace by Appleyard(m): 1:58pm On Nov 24, 2015
Underground:
Turkey knows perfectly well that that aircraft presented no threat to Turkey. It was shot down because it was attacking ISIL terrorists operating in Syria and near to the Turkish border. Turkey shows which side it is on.
And somebody believe this will just go under the carpet? I hope it does, but the Russians might other things in mind. Honestly, i pity the Mideast. That place is about erupting in flames
Foreign Affairs › Re: Breaking News: Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet For Violating Its Airspace by Appleyard(m): 1:46pm On Nov 24, 2015
cyprus000:
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Yes, a country need to protect her territorial integrity,but wisdom need to be applied when doing that.

This is a total senseless act from turkey. When things go south. NATO that is cheering her,will not be their to save her ass.

This ferosity of stupidity that the turkey government is exibiting. Will soon plunge her into reality of regret. They are diplomatic means to settle this issue,but the megalomoniac of a president have choosen rascibility over common sense.

This is the same turkey that constantly violates syrian air space on her quest of bombing kurds. They'd better prepare for karma.

On the flipside: it may that the plane was downed by by shoulder fired surface to air missiles provided to Al Nusra Front by the CIA. Same scenerio with how CIA armed mujahideen in Afghanistan to down russian jets.
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Well noted. With NATO rushing to hold an extraordinary meeting, and unconfirm talks of a Russian tactical nuke team heading to Syria, War storms are building in the horizon. God help us all.
Nairaland General › Re: Turkey Downs Russian Jet Fighter by Appleyard(m): 1:31pm On Nov 24, 2015
ValerianSteel:
The SU's are already roasting grin grin grin

AppleYard come defend your Lord Putin and his invisible airforce grin grin

R.I.P to the fighter pilot on board.
Atleast, you didnt becomne inhuman and mock the dead this time around, unlike on the Airbus crash. Thats a pass for you.
Regarding the downed plane, possible reactions and consequences would be determine by establishing if the Russian Su 24 actually violated the airspace of Turkey or not. If it does, wish it appears to be, the Russians can hardly complain, since they would have done the same thing to Turkey if it has violated it borders as well. The bitter truth is, the Russians just have to swallow the repercussions and refrain from further violations, except they can prove otherwise, which in turn would definitly lead to certain retaliations.

But one thing is now certain; activities in the Mideast is getting to a breaking point where all caution could be thrown to the wind. That place is about to erupt.
Culture › Re: The Sacred Iguanas Of Orogun Community In Delta State (photos) by Appleyard(m): 6:32pm On Nov 21, 2015
Chanchit:
No P, sebi we weh no come from urhobo fit eat Iguana?
Be it known to you that it is only the Orogun people that doesn's eat the iguana. All other Urhobos like me from Ughelli does not joke with that meat. We eat it big time.
One of the interesting thing about the animal is that, when it sees an indigene of Orogun land, it will not run, but once it sees a non-indigene like me, it starts running like hell. How the creature is able to identify both indegenes and non indegenes, is a mystery.
Culture › Re: If You Don't Have 500,000naira, You CANT Marry From Nsukka (pic Proof) by Appleyard(m): 3:47pm On Nov 21, 2015
dubemnaija:
grin grin grin grin grin

But on a more serious note, Igbo law-makers and their governors should start passing laws that will criminalize any expenditure demanded from a bride-to-be's parent above 100k.
I concur. Because with the way things are going now, most of their girls will have to marry themselves. Most of the igbo guys i know in my area here in Delta are now getting married to the locals down here, becos to them, they would rather invest such money in their business than spending it on some long throat family accross the bridge.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russian Cruise Missiles Hit ISIS ; 600 Killed In One Strike by Appleyard(m): 2:57pm On Nov 21, 2015
bonechamberlain:
. exactly, "zombies" is the name for Europeans.

they supported the u.s in causing refugee problems in Syria because of trying to oust Assad, now they are taking in the refugees, while the same u.s that they joined to fight has rejected any Syrian refugee.

Europeans are just bring foolish they need to wise up. Russia is not and can never be their problem.
Yeah. Until they stop seeing Russia as a foe instead of a partner, they will continue making the same mistake over and over. God help Europe and others that are suffocating under IS terrorism.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russian Cruise Missiles Hit ISIS ; 600 Killed In One Strike by Appleyard(m): 2:45am On Nov 21, 2015
So Hollande was waiting for people to die first in France befor he could deem it fit to coordinate with the Russians regarding terrorism? Well, it is good that the zombies in Europe are waking up to the reality that terrorism is real, and that you cant politicise the war against it and expect the status quo to remain.. Its pathetic that their innocent citizens have to die first. As for Russia, may God continue to aid them in the war against sheer terror. The US on the other hand is increasingly becoming the lone anti-Russian voice regarding Syria, especially now that it appears France has given her the middle finger, while the rest are gradually coming to reality.
It is always a win win for the Russian/Syrian camp ditto IS and it's sponsorers.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Muslim World React To Obama's Declaration by Appleyard(m): 1:58am On Nov 21, 2015
Whats the fuse all about?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Erdogan Urges United Muslim Front Against Terror by Appleyard(m): 1:50am On Nov 21, 2015
I see. But i don't think erdogan is ready yet to fight extremism and terrorism. You cant be calling for a united front against terrorism and islamic extremism while openly aiding and abeting the same group of people in Syria, under the guise of moderate rebels. You cant eat ur cake and have it. It is either you bend or you break.
Nevertheless, ther is every need for all hands to be on in tackling the menace of islamic extremism.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Strikes ISIL Targets In Syria With 34 Cruise Missiles (VIDEO) by Appleyard(m): 4:04pm On Nov 19, 2015
Lucasbalo:
Good for Russia then. I know right wing politicians in US like George W, Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, McCain and their enablers shouting the same mantra here. When the terrorists gets to do damages in US cities, people turn against them. I am all for Russia in Syria as long as America gets out of that junk hole.
I see. But America is still involve in the region till date.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Strikes ISIL Targets In Syria With 34 Cruise Missiles (VIDEO) by Appleyard(m): 3:50pm On Nov 19, 2015
NairaMinted:
AMEN!!

What are your thoughts on this video by the way:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=lnAeM73hIpU
Am still trying to load the video. May just be my browser fault.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Strikes ISIL Targets In Syria With 34 Cruise Missiles (VIDEO) by Appleyard(m): 3:02pm On Nov 19, 2015
Lucasbalo:
One thing people don't understand about Middle East is that Russia will eventually regret getting in the middle of civil war between Sunnis and Shiites. Russia don't have the economic power to see this to a conclusion. When bombs start going off in Moscow, St. petersburg and other Russian cities, putin will find out that you break it, you own it. As for me, i want America to withdraw all her troops and bases from the Middle East. I do not want another 911 on American soil. I could care less if they wipe each other out in that part of the world. Putin will soon collapse the struggling economy of Russia with his adventure. I love America out of that hell hole and Russia in that God forgotten hell on earth.
Russia is doing what is necessary, knowing that if it doesnt confront them in Syria now, it will have to fight them back home later. Putin got the backing of his people. Knowing what IS is, and having declare war on Russia. Russia is more than capable to take on isis and i dont see anything keeping it bogged down.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Strikes ISIL Targets In Syria With 34 Cruise Missiles (VIDEO) by Appleyard(m): 3:28pm On Nov 18, 2015
The Russian s have come, the Syrians have seen, and behold they are conquering now and gradually coasting towards victory. No matter how long the journey maybe, the forces of good will eventually prevail over those of evil. Putin and Syria will surely win the battle.

Go Russia! Go Syria!
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran And Saudi Arabia Clash Inside Syria Talks by Appleyard(m): 12:04am On Nov 14, 2015
@scully95. Your wahhabist and takfirist/Zionist theory in connection to the Afghanistan, Yugoslavic wars, the attack on independent and resource rich nations, and the boko haram connection ditto nigeria, is indeed one that falls within reality. But be it known to you that such expositions of the truth are being dubbed as '' conspiracy theory, '' which is only a false tag employed to discredit the integrity of the critical thinker. I just dont have the time to delve into history, but some facts should suffice. We all know what happened to Iraq and Libya-but not quite long ago, a retired US 5star general spill the beans that the US had planned to invade 7nations of which are Libya, Iraq, and Syria. What this meant is that these nations have long been on the hit list of the hegemon and excuses under false pretext and coded colour revolutions have to be created to warrant the invasions.
Today, we now know that Iraq have no WMD. Ghadafi died, and Syria is today bleeding like hell. What was their crimes? For daring the dollar - apart from the greed of the elites. We all know how the US predicted the break up of Nigeria in 2015, ditto the birth of Boko Haram, and how the violence intensified immediately Nigeria announced plans to switch from the dollar to the Chinese Yuan as reserve currency.
The fact that boko haram is a foreign sponsored insurgency tied to wahhabism, was underlined by the attempted visit by one of it's leader from the mideast to Nigeria, and the visa crisis that follows. Coupled with the fact that villagers in the north have seen foreign men on copter dropping cash and weapons for boko haram.

The wahabisim link is real.

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