₦airaland Forum

pazienza:
Croatia exit was very much more significant.
Either way,, doesn't matter who first left.
What matters is that once one left, the rest couldn't envisage Co existing with Serbs anymore .

Substitute Serbs with Hausa-Fulani, and you will see where Nigeria will head to post Biafra.

In fact, the greatest fear of Biafran exit for the Caliphate and her defenders, is not actually Biafra exit, but the chain reactions such exit will trigger down south, and the big sacrifice( Total resource control and autonomy) they would have to sacrifice to stop the cascade.

Get your Biafra first before postulating about things you ain't sure about.

pazienza:
Croatia exit was very much more significant.
Either way,, doesn't matter who first left.
What matters is that once one left, the rest couldn't envisage Co existing with Serbs anymore .

Substitute Serbs with Hausa-Fulani, and you will see where Nigeria will head to post Biafra.

In fact, the greatest fear of Biafran exit for the Caliphate and her defenders, is not actually Biafra exit, but the chain reactions such exit will trigger down south, and the big sacrifice( Total resource control and autonomy) they would have to sacrifice to stop the cascade.

Go read about the disintegration of Yugoslavia to know where the problem started and how and why it finally dissolved.

pazienza:
You are the one who needs to read.
The Exit of Croatia made Yugoslavia unstable and the rest were all rushing on their way out of the grip of the greedy Serbians.
That Those Minorities don't want Biafra does not mean they want to remain with Arewa-Odua.

They crave for total independence themselves and would not entertain union with you post Biafra, unless you are guaranteeing total resource control and autonomy for them, which would ruin the whole sweetness of one Nigeria for you now, wouldn't it?

Good luck getting them turn their region to theatre of war with independent Biafra, so that your hateful economic strangulation of Biafra will stand, while you enjoy peace in Lagos and Abuja.
You must think they are dimwitted, no?

Slovenia left first after a war in 1990 before Croatia.

You're still fixated on the SS minorities going their way even after not joining your Biafra, why not wait till then and stop banking your luck on something you ain't sure of for now.

pazienza:
Either way, like I said in the past, there will be no Nigeria as presently constituted post Biafra.

Biafra exit from Nigeria will be akin to Croatia exit from Yugoslavia. It will lead to a chain of reactions that will result in emergence of independent Ijaw, Urhobo, Akwacross Republics down south.

This is because the exit of Igbo from Nigeria will so tip the religious dynamics of Nigeria to 80-30 in favour of Muslims. It will also mean that Muslim Yorubas and North will rule Nigeria forever. It will unbalance the political demographic of Nigeria.

The only way Minorities will accept to stay with Yorubas and North in Nigeria post Biafra will be if Nigeria grants them resource control and
great deal of autonomy.
Such an autonomous SS will not be controlled by hateful beings from Lagos and Abuja. They would also seek to break the Lagos-Ibadan economic (Port) monopoly on Nigeria, they will know that cooperation with business minded Biafrans will be helpful in that regard.

But we know that a Nigeria with resource control for minorities is a useless one for Arewa-Odua, so my take is that they will not be much interested in such arrangement, making the earlier Yugoslavia like fission reactions I spoke of, the most likely scenario post Biafra seccession.

Go read about old Yugoslavia, USSR and Czechoslovakia and their agreements on separation. Continue hoping on others leaving Nigeria because you want to leave.

https://punchng.com/were-not-biafrans-ijaw-youths-tell-kanu-others/

https://thenationonlineng.net/just-in-ijaw-youths-stop-asari-dokubo-from-holding-biafran-meeting-in-bayelsa/

https://orientdailynews.com/news/isoko-urhobo-peoples-reject-inclusion-in-biafra/


https://www.rockcityfmradio.com/rivers-state-elders-reject-biafra-want-1963-constitution-adopted/

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/south-south-regional/235058-not-biafrans-akwa-ibom-group-says.html

They've all rejected Igbos and Biafra.

pazienza:
Any one thinking that Independent SE will accept Nigeria preventing her from having sea access in peace must be joking.

Biafra will only slowly stock up her military and fight her way to the sea coast, if Nigeria makes peaceful negotiations impossible.

Nigeria isn't the one to make negotiations, Biafra would.

The coast is owned by Nigeria, if you want war with no negotiations to use Nigerian waters, Nigeria gives it to you just like in 1967 and stock up enough weapons and food without making Ojukwu's mistake.

gidgiddy:
People like you are just plane ignorant. So ignorant that you dont even know that the international laws that gives Nigeria control of its water ways will also give Biafra control of it's own. It's not about being landlocked, it's about if you have access to the Sea via water channels.

I even used the example of London, a landlocked city, but it controls much of British shipping through the use of the River Thames and the River Lea.

Naturally, if there is Biafra, the use of the water ways will be discussed, however, it will never be the exclusive preserve of Nigeria to decide

Emphasis on your last paragraph,
You now agree that the use of water would be discussed, I thought you were saying earlier that it was Biafra's exclusive right irrespective of what Nigeria says.

FYI, Nigeria has exclusive right to 12 nautical miles to the Nigerian coast, see the map below.


How would Biafra navigate through that distance within Nigerian territorial waters waters without an agreement with the owner?

You are just fixated with waterways but what about the access to the ocean, you may navigate the whole of riversAzumiri, Niger etc to get to the sea but can you make use of it is the question.

Blue3k:
No that's why im laughing at your expense. Here's a source link. Admittedly I being hyperbolic but you get point. Real food inflation around 11%.

https://nairametrics.com/2019/11/03/nipc-to-generate-n1-46-billion-from-its-activities-in-2020/amp/

Check up your link very well because it doesn't fit into the discourse please.

You bandied 50%, I asked for link and you said 11% and and I read your link and it was saying something else.

MUMUdom:
The same way your ministers and officials were in Ghana begging and crying when shops belonging to nigerian traders were shut. Even on nairaland, it was a huge matter. For days, you Nigerians were talking about it.

Or you have forgotten how your foreign minister one Onyema or whatever shitty name, was in Accr@, begging for Ghana to open nigerian shops? They will soon be here again because starting from tomorrow, GUTA is closing shops of all Nigerians in Ghana I guess this time your president will come himself to beg

Close those shops, stop your police from reopening them and tell your ministers from cautioning your GUTA or GUTTER.
You closed down the shops and the Nigerian economy wasn't dented but just an ordinary border closure and your economy is taking a beating.
That's why your ministers have made Abuja your adopted nation's capital now.

vaxx2:
I am a national of both country, and Ghana being my motherland is my sweetheart.

This chat is becoming childish, let's talk or chat next time.
You can be from China, Japan, the US and Britain all together, makes no sense.

Go have your lunch and rest then you go outside and play.

vaxx2:
I don't hate Nigeria and Nigerians. how can I hate my fatherland ? I just hate the idealogy of the policy makers. and to your links. i am pretty sure you know the reasons the land border was closed . benin and other neighbouring countries are not allowed.

Your fatherland indeed, you think I've forgotten your post where you wrote "GHANA FIRST".
I'm a proud Nigerian and would defend her just as you're doing same for Ghana so stop the lies.

Land borders remain shut for now till those leeching countries sought themselves out.

Blue3k:
Stop talking nonsense. What contraband did they import. Reread the article slowly. The textile mills are down because the business environment bad for it.



Read the article if you want to know details on agreement. If you're not interested in fulfilling agreement just admit your government corrupt liars. You improvishing yourself isnt sending anyone a message. Your domestic companies are threating to leave and FDI still pitifully low compared to previous years.



Lol who's suffering you food prices jumped 50%. Nigerian can be a funny bunch. You really showed them by hurting your business.

Is it your suffering? You just go about spewing figures anyhow and if we ask for source or link, you'd run.

MUMUdom:
Who is crying and begging? Didn’t Nigeria cry and beg Ghana when shops belonging to nigerian traders were closed in Ghana recently? Your president sent delegations to Accra to cry and beg

Your ministers are all over Abuja like homeless destitutes begging and crying everywhere, how many Nigerian ministers have you seen or heard is in Accra begging since the closure?
I guess the Nigerian government should just ban any direct any direct flight between Nigeria and Ghana for now

vaxx2:
I just told you by this time tommrow you will be updated. Nigeria and Ghana custom are metting to work on the modalities of the agreement . but don't cry when it goes against your wish.

Ghana goods was allow for exhibition but benin product was stop on the road . have you think about that?

Your links to your last paragraph, why are you so interested in the Nigerian market yet you hate Nigeria and Nigerians so much? Tell me the secret

Japhet31:
and your own dear country...doesn't need to sort herself out?

That's what we're doing and these crying and beggarly countries especially Ghana won't allow us sort ourselves in peace

vaxx2:
I am surprised you also don't know the purpose of exhibition is also to trade.....and eventually by tommrow, you will be updated . I already told you Ghana case is diffrent ......

Has the corridor being opened yet?
You're making it sound as if it has been created, I'm sure that truck was just heading for the ongoing Lagos trade fair.
Ghana has been exhibiting in Nigeria for years yet we shut our borders.

After exhibiting and interested in exporting to Nigeria, our seaports and airports are available, land borders remain shut for now.

vaxx2:
source ....citinewsroom...

Ghana - Nigeria custom to hold joint meeting

""The meeting is expected to help the two countries set out modalities on how Ghanaian traders may easily cross the Nigerian-Benin border with their goods.

According to the Deputy Minister-in-charge of Trade and Industry, Mr Carlos Kingsley Ahenkorah, an announcement will be made after the meeting on Monday to that effect.

The Deputy Minister was hopeful the meeting would yield positive results considering the outcomes of all the meetings held between the two countries.

The Deputy Minister stated that following meetings with the Commissioner of Customs and the Minister of Foreign affairs of Nigeria last Wednesday, a Ghana Export Promotion Authority (GEPA) truck which was conveying products from Ghana to Nigeria for an exhibition was allowed into that country after several days of staying behind the Nigerian border.

This, the Minister said was a good sign and he was very optimistic the meeting on Monday would yield the needed results.

Speaking on Citi TV‘s The Big Issue, the Deputy Minister said the modalities would make it easier for both Ghanaian and Nigerian trucks to cross the border and improve transparency for Nigerian authorities.

According to him, the two sovereign states are hoping to among other things arrive at a decision that would make authorities know the quantity and type of products en route to each other’s country before the goods arrive.

“When we got to the commissioner of customs, the customs people who went with us also had a very hearty discussion with him and they were all on one side saying that it is important that they have a customs to customs cooperation where they will exchange information even about goods that are about leaving Ghana to Nigeria, so they can do same for us. That way they know what is coming into their country”.

“You heard me say that we are going to create a special window for these Ghana trucks to be able to move in, and the Foreign affairs Minister of Nigeria promised to do this with Ghana and to have that exchange. So the Commissioner of Customs for Ghana and that of Nigeria are supposed to sit down and come up with modalities on Monday."

"He went further to promise that on Monday we are having a crunch meeting and after that meeting, they are going to come out with a brilliant announcement and so we should all open our ears,” Mr Ahenkorah added.



Background

Nigeria closed its frontiers in what it says is to stop the smuggling of products from its neighbouring West African countries into Nigeria.

The action taken by Nigeria was to express its displeasure at the attitude of the Beninese authorities in order to elicit their cooperation.

The closure of the borders which started in August 2019 was expected to be in force for twenty-eight (28) days, however, it looks like the issues remain unresolved thus the continuous closure.

Many trucks have been stranded at the Seme border for several weeks now"".

Your bolded said goods going for exhibition and not for the markets, does that sound like a trade corridor that your president and ministers have been crying and begging for?

Just30:
you are crying too much

it is not your emotions that will prevent things from Ghana from entering your market because you know the consequences

What consequences if I may ask? Lol

Just30:
Benin will not be picking a fight with Ghana where they depend so much for a lot of things .

20% of the economy of Benin depends on Nigeria, give us that of Benin to Ghana

vaxx2:
Guy shout up, Ghana goods was allowed into Nigeria successfully yesterday and another meeting is expected to take up tomorrow where Nigeria customs and Ghana officials will work on the modalities of operation.

Links please

Just30:
you are making too much noise whiles your country economy is nose-diving into recession

how far with the astronomical increases in prices of commodities?

managing an economy is not the same as playing school

It is not your recession or is it?
Be thinking about the effect of the closure on your economy instead of focusing on Nigeria.
Just one company kasepreko had lost about $2.5 million since the closure and you're losing sleep over your phantom recession in Nigeria.

Gilgil:
Lol...you are not serious.
That's the whole issue with Nigeria, my friend...lol

If you were my employee and answer this way to not doing your job, I would fire you immediately without benefits.

See this one still looking for a job, by their posts you shall know smugglers anyway

lexy2014:
U still haven't answered d questions:

"Is it only smugglers that use d land borders? Do smugglers not also use air and sea ports?"

Why are you shouting? I told you already that the Nigerian government is trying to sought the land ports for now, make your personal investigation to know if only smugglers use land ports.

The land ports and borders remain shut for now

Just30:
dont be dumb
cameroon is not an ecowas member

and Ghanaian goods are not smuggled into your country
they pass through your borders and pay duties.

West Africa major problem are nigerians who smuggle basically everything from Chinese textiles to rice and cement across
the various countries in West Africa

I know Cameroon isn't an ECOWAS member, I only listed the countries that would be mostly affected just like crying and beggarly Ghana.

Kasapreko and other companies would soon leave Ghana to relocate to Nigeria because of this single move.

Just30:
ECOWAS without nigeria is a union bound for success


Afrter all, all the major treaties in ECOWAS are brought by Ghana

Go with your ECOWAS then, what do we even gain from you beggars? Presidents of Benin, Niger and Ghana have been begging since the closure.
We are waiting for the rest of ECOWAS and Cameroon before we'd say anything.

lexy2014:
All u have said has no relevance with d questions I asked which are:

"Is it only smugglers that use d land borders? Do smugglers not also use air and sea ports?"

The Nigerian government is trying to sought out the land borders for now, anyone interested in exporting to Nigeria for now should use other means, leeches can all do their worst.

Blue3k:
Lol says the poverty capital of world. You weirdos already agreed. If you guys are just liars just say so. Its the Nigerian economy that going to take the major hit not Ghana's due to border closure.



High growth economies without boko haram.

Allow the Nigerian economy to suffer and stop begging us to open our borders to your crappy goods, we know Ghana is the richest country in the world

Gilgil:
How about Customs effectively holding the land borders? That's what they are meant to do right? If they fail that one mission, then they should give the job to those who can handle it.

No one is talking about the inefficiencies and poor job they are doing. Rather they just close borders

We are taking our time, na small small.

Blue3k:
Lol when does Nigeria do anything with haste. You already agreed to do it so its just a matter of time. Its funny how you weidodforgotten how Nigeria went crying over deportation and shop closures it seems this border closue judt an ego trip.



Lol the corrupt Nigerian official lied to Ghana? To use any corridor you would need Ghanaian license they can't enter. Ghana also has to submit list of companies. Benin wouldn't be dumb enough to engage in tariff war with ghana. Maybe Nigeria would do something dumb like that without considering retaliatory tariff that makes their situation worse.





Lol hypocrites always exposes themselves. You want these same foreign companies to invest in Nigeria so you export products to ECOWAS nations. You think closing your land borders is how to attract foreign investors?

Story for the gods, tell us who signed for the corridor from both sides.

Very soon your factories will start relocating to Nigeria because Nigeria has been their target market, we've sent them a serious message already

SarkinYarki:
Have youths in Nigeria not been into poultry since ? Even as an 8 year old I ran my own poultry and sold chickens so stop this nonsense talk ..

More had moved into it as we speak

LabDNA:
At what cost? If I export wears from Aba to Cameroon which is just a few kilometers away from Aba after paying the required duties at the border post, how do I survive if I'd have to move the same goods from Aba to Lagos just to export it through sea or Air to next door Cameroun? Since the land borders are closed and the PH port is moribund. Does it sound like a sustainable idea to you?

Be realistic!

Calabar port is there and open for business, the closure is not permanent, let those leeching countries sought themselves out

lexy2014:
Who are d leeching countries and how are they leeching Nigeria?

They and even you know them.

Chubhie:
To imagine that customs went to town celebrating that they made 3 billion daily by shutting the border. Why not get smart scanners and search for arms and rice instead of shutting down the whole economy of West Africa?

This crude approach have no place in a modern society. This is counter productive both in the short, medium and long terms.

We now have scanners at our ports, we had to shut down their economies because they were proving stubborn.
Stick to ECOWAS protocols on trade and those stubborn leeches refused, what else do you want us to do again, must it continue?