₦airaland Forum

Lemon12:
how can you say we are all Nigerians when your God buhari said we're 5% ? Huh ? Why are Yoruba people against ibaka seaport and 2nd niger bridge if we are all Nigerians ?

Very dumb and unintelligent post..

Sunnynwa:
You call the UK telegraph crap outlet? Smh!

Is Metuh in detention locked up without charges? Yes Or No?

When you put out stories like Metuh locked up in detention without charges when in fact he is on trial faces criminal charges, it means you are either worthless, incompetent at news gathering, fabricating stories or just pulling rubbish from the moon.

Since Mr Buhari came to power last July, a number of prominent members of the former ruling People’s Democratic Party (PDP) have been arrested and imprisoned without charge. Among those detained was the party’s official spokesperson.

This is where you you should stop reading this trash and exit.


1. Metuh is not under any kind of detention without charges, in fact he's on trial based on specific charges that his lawyers are ready to defend with witnesses already giving testimonies..

2. You can tell by the lingos used in the article that this crap was typed in Nigeria and handed over to this fishwater crap outlet..


Nice try...FAIL

maupe:
Just to play the devil's advocate, the Governor is right. Any government that does not know how to lobby the legislature for a joint agreement on how to implement their programs is a useless government. Obama, is as we speak, trying fervently to lobby sympathetic Republican senators on accepting and confirming Merrick Garland for the supreme court

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In Wielding Rarely Used Veto, President Obama Puts Budget Heat on Republicans



WASHINGTON — President Obama on Thursday vetoed a $612 billion defense policy bill, rejecting a broadly supported measure that sets funding for military salaries and equipment, and intensifying his struggle with the Republican-led Congress over federal spending

Apples and oranges. There's a clear clear difference supreme court nomination and Budgets before congress.

American presidents and congress fight all the time over budgets and in fact, they shut down the government because of disagreement over the budgets all the time.

Obama threatened to veto the last budget over republicans budget shenanigans while the republicans also threatened budget shutdown, but Obama called their bluff and refused to sign the budget till the republicans backed down..


You know nothign about America so please find something else to support your flawed views with.

PMB so far is playing too nice with the NASS because at this stage in the game, he should be calling their bluff and even refusing to sign their rubbish till his objectives are met because when things go wrong, we blame the president and not the NASS because the buck stops with the president.

Per Fayose, what else is new? He's just being his usual shouting BINGO self..

ekenedilichukwu:
All the Executive branch has to do is submit a Supplementary Budget for separate funding for the project.

Now in hindsight 20/20 after seeing what National obstructionists are capable of doing, they presidency should have, but that doesn't mean the presidency did the wrong thing, they did the right thing while hoping the other side of the wheel of government were ready to do the right thing.

Sending the Minister to amend and restructure his ministry's budget to reflect the project was a legit move, but the other side is basically hiding under the fact that the item was not in the original budget which remains a bogus and unintelligent excuse to coner the money to their area of access, influence and control.

simple thing, don't make it complicated. Buhari does not need to veto the budget cause it doesn't contain one item.

No, he did the simple thing already by simply adding amending to add the project, but others are making it difficult so he should just veto the whole budget and redraw it to reflect his wishes and let the lawmakers again delete the project in front of Nigerians.

He should call their bluff by terminating and restructuring the budget and have them delete the project out in the open without any not in the budget cover to hide under.

He needs to sign and approve the budget so other matters already passed in the budget can get funding and commence work. Then he just need to submit a supplemental budget to the House floor, open it for debate and let the legislators vote up or down.

No he doesn't have to sign anything or set any blackmail precedent for them to keep exploiting. He must stand his ground because any sabotage of his agenda or bad results economically or socially is going to be his fault, he's going to shoulder the blame like Nigerians are doing today even though he did not create the problems the country is facing and rightfully so because the buck stops with the president regardless. We are very shallow when it comes to leadership and apportioning blames..

He needs to start playing hardball simply because we have too many crooked and dangerous elements in government even within his own party who are ready to let the country sink or swim.

Lemon12:
Yorubas will benefit more from this project than any other group ... But why must it always be Lagos ? Why not make it calabar to Asaba and see if we will not support it

Yoruba, Calabar and Asaba people are all Nigerians, we all gain. Must hate and bigotry determine what's best or not for you?

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Matthewbriggs:
[size=15pt]Lagos Calabar rail controversy : What everyone should know[/size]

There is an intense effort by some people to change the narrative regarding the controversial Lagos-Calabar rail project.

The current spin been sold is that SE&SS senators are against the progress of their people, so as to spite this administration, Also that the NASS is filled with bigoted northern senators who are out to disenfranchise the south with the southern senators doing nothing.

We can go on and debate what this controversy is all about, Spin doctors from both parties can continue to try to use this to further their political agenda, but in the midst of all this noise, it is important we put context to everything, look at the essence of this controversy and decide what the debate should really be about.

Let's start with the facts on the ground.

1. The presidency failed to submit this item in her original budget to the senate.
2. A minister tried to get the item in by approaching the senate
3. The Minster failed in doing so, given that at the end of the day, the executive discovered it wasn't added, hence all the controversy.

In between these 3 events, there are a lot of controversies, At this point it is important to put everything in context, focusing on the essence of what this controversy really represents.

The Fist Context is

1. We have an incompetent Executive - The current budget fiasco paints the executive as a bunch of confused people with no strong coordination internal and externally with Nigerians. Starting from a shoddy budget that went missing, the budget padding controversy and now the failure to adequately communicate what has really transpired in this Lagos - Calabar issue. Instead, she has chosen to throw blames as opposed to really taking responsibility and proposing a way to fix this situation. Committing gaffes upon gaffes for something very sensitive as the budget that powers the livelihood of over 200million Nigerians is a grouse sign of incompetence APC would never tolerate this from PDP if they were the opposition.

2. We have a disunited Ruling party - One of the key benefits of been the ruling party and also winning majority of seats in the House of assembly is that this helps the executive get things done. It aids easy communication and implementation of projects and visions of the executive because every member of the party understands that the success of the executive means the success of their party and them as well.

A dis-United APC is dangerous for Nigeria's progress, it's like APC is the ruling and opposing party. This is not what APC promised Nigerians. This should be the real subject of discussion, not the tribal bigoted crap that is trailing this debate.

APC should be tasked by Nigerians to get their house in other and deliver, as opposed to fighting themselves, allowing Nigerians that voted them in, to be the ground that suffers from their in-house shenanigans.

We need leadership yesterday, Nigeria must come first before party

3. SS & SE senators are not only to blame for their oversight and failure to speak up : The current spin by some Bigots is that the SS & SE senators in their bid to spite the Minister of Transport and the executive looked the other way as this project was omitted. This premise was established, Intentionally absolving the SW senators from any blame forgetting that this project will also benefit the SW. This is bigotry hiding under the facade of we are fight, for the interest of the SS and SE. While everyone know that you really don't care.

Ideally, all Southern senators are to be blamed for not standing and fighting for a project that will benefit their regions this is not a PDP or APC blame game this is the fact that our southern senators need to seat up and defend the interest of the people who put them there.

Your people must come first before the party.

4. Nigeria under the APC is becoming more disunited than ever: Truth be told the last election really did more harm to Nigeria's unity only topped by the civil war. The APC government instead of healing the wounds and uniting the nation is doing a much shoddy job that is further disuniting the nation, either through unchecked statements by the executive, the actions and inactions of the executive etc.

Allowing controversies like this to fester seems like the APC is comfortable been the party for the 95% as opposed to a party for all. The overall position and vibe of the Ruling party and her team of foot soldiers, tireless tries to drive home this fact.

That been said the real question is after the blame throwing where do we go from here as a nation. Will the APC seat up and truly provide the leadership this nation truly needs or will she continue to chase the wind for the next 3 years

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Matthewbriggs:
Dude I am Voting for GEJ

Your crooked, corrupt and incompetent stealing is not corruption GEJ lost is is very likely to end up in jail so stop boring us with your meaningless and corrupt sermon..

I was unusually going to commend you for this thread, but you as usual, you betrayed your own write up be excluding and failing to include and apportion blame to the local and national elected officials from the affected region and direct and primary beneficiaries of the $12 billion project and the largest public works in Nigeria.

As a public official, I'll do anything and twist every arm in sight to corner and inject $12 billion dollars , jobs and payroll taxes into my local economy even apart from the secondary benefits of the projects like opening up and developing my local communities.

Instead of standing up and fighting for this project, the officials from this region especially the now famous twitter based senator who camped out on twitter ranting rubbish everyday like a market woman instead of looking out for his people back home.

This is what you get when you apportioned to yourself the shouting and opposition leader position, attacking people everyday at the expense of your own people and primary responsibilities just like the other noisemaker in Ekiti.

What time do you exactly have left to your job after spending all your time on irrelevant and silly activities?

Where was this man when $12 billion and the largest public works project in sub saharan Africa was getting snatched from him and his people? He was of course not on the senate floor looking out for his people, he was as usual on twitter talking rubbish.

This man should have set politics aside and bipartisan with Amaechi to advance this project and make sure it sailed through the House and Senate. This is what great leaders are made of, this is how leaders bring home bacon to their local communities.

What is this man doing today? He's covering up his failure by attacking Amaechi and discrediting Amaechi who regardless of the short sighted and silly political bad feelings against him back home fought to send $12 billion and thousands of jobs to his people back home.

All the local leaders from distracted and goofy Wike down to Akpabio whose state and Uyo is going to be the Arrowhead of the project sat quietly, unconcerned and grossly ignorant. When this was going on, even if the project was not originally included in the budget should have arranged a meeting with Amaechi and other leaders from that region to make sure even errors were made, everything was done to correct the error and retain the project.

Sadly in this part of the country, politics comes before people and the electorates, hatred and bitterness comes before people and primary responsibilities.

This is what you don't see in other parts of the country, you don't see Northerners and SWners sitting on their hands and denying themselves major projects and opportunities and the North taking this money away to spend on other irrelevant and insignificant projects at the expense of the South.

The only PDP elected official from the South defending this project is from Lagos state/Originally from SE, regardless his tribal and political affiliation. Shows you that politics of hatred, bitterness, tribalism and do or die exist only in that part of the country/SE/SS. They don't mind detrimental ways and attitude against themselves and their own people all because of politics and hatred.

These useless leaders first and only priority remains progress and advancement of their own people back home, they should get together regardless of political affiliations to draw up agenda and federal projects and benefits to drag back home to their communities and reserve politics for elections.

It saddens that you are part of the same maladies your local leaders are suffering from, you don't hesitate to play the same destructive political game, you defend and promote the same ills and incompetent leaders.


The only portion of your write up I agreed with or even partially subscribe to is the part about the President not canceling the whole budget process and strictly insert and highlight his programs and objectives including this project and let the lawmakers play their shaddy game out in the open in front of Nigerians. The partially part is even if the presidency didn't include the project in the original budget, it is on record that the Minister not only inserted the project into his budget with funds the crooked lawmakers termed as floating funds when in fact we all know this is the same money set aside for the project, the same money they fraudulently diverted, but also debated in front of all the necessary committees.

The lawmakers are using the silly excuse that the project was not in the original budget to justify their shaddy desires when in fact it shouldn't be since it's on record that it was the other way around, the project and budget was credibly inserted and debated in front of the committees and lawmakers.

What we just witnessed means the battle for #Change has many obstacles, enemies, distractors and incompetent officials ready to make sure our country stay stagnant and buried like the same old ways of corruption and institutionalized incompetence..

A Quick diversion. The PDP chairmanship position was reserved and zoned to the SE, but after failed 4 SE PDP chairmanship because of infighting, backstabbing and resignations, the North took away the chairmanship position from them and zoned it to the North with the SE walking away quietly without objection.

This means the SS and the SE are still not ready for prime time. Cooperation and reaching out to attain common objectives delivers while communal hatred, bitterness and petty political fights and affiliations deprives as we just witnessed.



You reap what you sow.

odikimi:
I ask again, under our law who is empowered to submit supplementary budget, the minister can not bring up a supplementary budget on his own, it must be from the president.
Senator Ashafa submitted the supplementary budget which Amaechi included but it was removed by the Appropriation committee because it was against the law. If Buhari really want to include it, he should submit a supplementary budget. u guys should stop being deceived by ds people.
they are using your heard. what is d big deal here for submitting a supplementary budget if they really want to do it?

You are wrong, the minister and even government agencies can submit suplementals to the Congress directly. This is why he was there to defend his budget and supplemental instead of the president.

Stop quoting kabukabu law..

Chidinho10:
I am from the South East but will never shy away from the truth!

First of all, GEJ was not voted out for tribalism, he was voted out for his incompetence. I am from the South East but I will never shy away from the truth. Forget about the core North and South, look at results from the middle belt states where PDP previously controlled. PDP lost Benue States because GEJ kept quiet when the Fulanis butchered the Tivs in their homeland. GEJ lost because he kept quiet ad watch Suswam run the state like his personal possession. He lost out not because of tribalism but because of incompetence. In 2011, he defeated the same candidate with a wide margin, the same people that voted him in 2011, voted him out for his incompetence.

SO NEVER YOU PUT THE BLAME ON TRIBALISM, BLAME IT ON HIS INCOMPETENCE

Buhari has not made any significant impact since he became President, but you will agree with me that the level of power supply increased since he became President. Don't tell me GEJ owns the glory because power generation when he came in was a little above 4000 MW and he left us with less than 1000MW on May 29th.

ALSO NOTE THAT IT IS UNFAIR TO JUDGE A GOVT THAT INHERITED POWER WITH OIL PRICE THIS LOW. What was the performance of GEJ with oil price above $100 pb for five consecutive years? Is it fair to compare such a govt with another govt that has never witnessed oil price above $50 pb?

Its true we have fuel scarcity but is this the first time we are experiencing it in Nigeria. The last fuel scarcity occurred during GEJs era and we witnessed the closure of banks, airports, online portals and several other businesses for the first time in Nigeria's history. I guess you turned a blind eye then but now you are geared up to attack PMB for this setback. Fuel scarcities will always come and go, this isn't the first and will not be the last.

PMB has his flaws, just like every other human but he is very much better than GEJ. Nigeria made the right choice because I wonder how things would have been if GEJ had won the past elections.

The dude is correct in his assertions whether he is black, white, Igbo, non Igbo, South South or South West. Thank you

Unfortunately, these strays are too far gone to reach with your sane and thoughtful post because they function on pure hate, anger, bitterness, bigotry and unadulterated tribalism even when it's detrimental to their well being and way of life.

denko:
pleae say amen if.u trust pmb

Amennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Now what?

GudluckIBB:
How many times did his gej used commercial when ge was the president?

The same GEJ who enjoyed presidential jets so much that he tried to increase the presidential fleet with more jets..

Even the best and the most educated of the failed jonathanians is a dumb troll and common wailer with vacuous brain..

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engineerboat:
Alagba Tape Recorder, play what u have for us here now, that will put everything to rest once and for all, But for now.

Was it captured in the original budget YES/NO

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No time allocation for unintelligent and ignorant posters today, try later...

mandax:
Note:

Even the much-vaunted Calabar to Lagos standard gauge rail lines are exploitative, designed to ferry out the wealth of the SS and the South east to Lagos and upward to the north.

Tell, what returns to the South south and South east zones on the return route from Lagos?

See una and southern solidarity, since when?

1. How exactly is the free $12 billion they are going to put in your pocket going to take your wealth away..?

Do you mind explaining this to us?

2. The North that took away your $12 billion rail project to advance their rail project did it because of what? To exploit the wealth in the SW or exchange of goods, serviced, industrial and agric products?

3. Why is it that what's good for you is always termed to be bad and negative especially when others are using the same thing to develop and advance ahead of you?


It's like you people are eternally cursed to remain stagnant mentally and developmentally...

willibounce1:
So we should roll out drums and aso ebi and start dancing? We no dey pay tax abi na him papa money him use do the road?

The only poster here talking about rolling drums is you since that didn't come from me. Obviously a sad reflection of your own warped mentality and guilty conscience.

You unintelligent people really do bore me with your thoughtless, mindless and unintelligent posts..

1miccza:
My brotthherrr!!!It's'a soRry situation. But let me ask how can we eradicate ethnicism,bigotry,nepotism and tribalism from our populace or at least reduce it to the barest minimum??

Sad to say, you can not eradicate it anytime soon since it's inbuilt from birth. This is what you end up with when parents feed their children hate, bitterness and divisive sentiments from birth.


In their world, everything is seen and discussed based on bigotry, tribalism and hatred.

The same people sit around everyday bashing the northerners everyday, they throw tribal venom and bigoted rants at them , but today all of a sudden they are ok with the North taking away food and $12 billion and development away from their mouth just because they hate the same people who are fighting to put $12 billion and major trade and commerce route in their backyard.


They will wine and dine with the devil as long as the devil is the doing their bidding. This is how mentally twisted they are...

1miccza:
Read the post again bro

I read the post and in fact I was talking about the general attitude of the unintelligent noisemakers shouting and throwing venoms at the same people who are fighting to to have this project and thousands of jobs created in their backyard...

You must be stupid, crazy and insane not to want and fight for $12 billion thrown into your local economy. This is currently the largest public works project in Sub Saharan Africa.

Shows you how hate, tribalism, bitterness and ignorance have eaten into the rotten fabric of this shallow and hopeless generation, they are like badly damaged and irredeemable human waste..

Ok let's get this straight.

The most major project probably in the history of Nigeria costing $12billion in your backyard to develope your land and create job for your people was just taken away to develop other people's backyard at the expense of your people and these losers are happy just because they hate the president who is actualy looking out for them and Amaechi who's fighting to deliver on your behalf.....

Den swear for you people ni? Very soon you go begin shout marginalization and neglect left and right.

Seriously, you people don't deserve anything, you people are too insane, morally and socialiy immature to be part of any sane society..

Icecomrade:

Eyah
BUHARI want use Rail way project decieve Chinese people take collect loan wey them no go execute.

Amaechi dey one corner dey wait to recover money wey him expend for election.

Satan don catch them.

Una no dey carry last with insane and absurd rubbish..

oduastates:
Ibaka sea port.
You can ask Jonathan and friends to fund that.
$3 billion only. Just a tiny amount out of the over $150 billion they looted.
Lagos - calabar is inconsequential to us and will lead to a destruction of our coastal fiona and fauna.
We would rather have lagos -shagamu- ibadan - ife -akure - Benin to terminate at Warri.

Despite the yearly allocation of several billions of naira for the construction of a proposed greenfield deep seaport at Ibaka in Akwa Ibom State by both the State Government and the Nigeria Ports Authority (NPA) since 2011, the project has remained elusive, with no evidence of a port being built at the proposed site.

The project is missing in the National Integrated Infrastructure Master Plan and in the list of similar projects planned in partnership between the federal government and state government, with expectations of private investors collaborations, investigations by LEADERSHIP have revealed.

The Ibaka Deep Seaport, a project for which the federal ministry of transport, the NPA and the Akwa Ibom State Government have held several workshops and taken commendations at several events is also missing in a maritime and air transport report prepared by Steer Davies Gleave for the Infrastructure Consortium for Africa (ICA) hosted by

The African Development Bank.

The study, which was carried out to assess the potential for enhanced private participation in the maritime and air transport sectors in Africa however identified the Lekki Deep Seaport measuring 970m of container berths, 320m dry bulk berth, 1-2 oil berths and located 60km east of Lagos.

The Badagry greefield port, Koko Port and Olokola Port were also listed with their capacity and promoters.

The water at Ibaka is said to have a natural draft of 11 metres, without dredging, making it a huge potential for possible deep seaport construction.

Akwa Ibom State has continued to budget for the port, which Governor Godswill Akpabio said would create employment for 100,000 Nigerians.[/b]

The NPA had also told LEADERSHIP in Uyo at the PCC meeting that the deep seaport would be completed in 2015.

When LEADERSHIP visited the proposed site of the deep seaport at Ibaka, there was nothing to show that a seaport was being planned at coastal community.

[b]A lonely dilapidated narrow road, better described as a colonial road leads to Ibaka, from Oron. As early as 2011, the Akwa Ibom State Governor told a Nigeria Ports Consultative Council (PCC) meeting in Uyo that his government had concluded plans to dualise the road.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201312160580.html

Akpabio budgets billions every year for this invisible seaport.

1. Ibaka seaport is not in the FG gazette and there is zero FG budget for it.

Meaning the FG doesn't know anything about this seaport officially

2. Akpabio budgets billions for this bridge every year with not even bush clearing or fence erected.

Meaning Akpabio pockets free billions every year.

OgbeifunErom:
So there are still people that respect that comedian?

Na wa ooo

Me sef wonder ooo..

slimfit1:
Those are not trains they are tourist trains trains to make you think somebody did something. Hope they invest in fast trains where you can work in Lagos yet live in PH.

No major rail system in the world is mainly for tourists.

Trains are for passengers, goods and services so tourists and adventure seekers in Lagos can use it like any other passenger to Obudu or Tinapa..

Nothing wrong with fast or bullet trains, just give them the money, I'm sure they'll appreciate it..

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Who told u that? We dont need that project, we need deep seaport period.


If southwest need deep seaport will dey support railway to calabar? No!


They do that because lagos alone have about four deep seaport or more, this exclude those under construction.

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Going back and forth with ignorant people bore me..

Tokety7:

The next question the murrafucker will ask u will be.......why was it not in the original budget submitted by Buhari.........to them, since Buhari didnt submit it but his minister, it's null and void. These fools are senseless.

It's like NL went to the land of dummies and crazies to load up dummies and crazies and just dump them on NL...


Sometimes I just wonder...

TonyeBarcanista:
When did Amaechi add the Lagos-Calabar rail project? I still find it hard to believe.

We already have it on tape where Amaechi did in fact argued for and defended the project so in your mind, he was just running his mouth and defending what he never brought forward to the senate?



As usual, you reasoned like a primary school student...

bendovex:
This confirms what Jibrin said, that the Lagos-Calabar rail was not captured in the main budget. However, a supplementary document from the ministry of transport was submitted to that effect by the minister of transportation during his ministry's budget defense, which was later sent to the Senate committee on appropriation for proper appropriation.
But the lying government would want us to believe that Lagos-Calabar rail was captured in the original budget, useless government!
what a shame!

They never said it was in the original, they said it was in the amended or supplementary budget..


Learn how to read and comprehend simple English words..

ZombieNation:
SW governors are good at beating their flat dry chests.

Come to the ND and see silent revolution in action.

Useless plebs

We don't have to go to anywhere to see what's there. We know what's there and there is nothing and you can not show us anything beyond the few roads and flyover in uyo.

BTW, why always come to ND and never come to SE?


Useless attache by force..

henrydadon:
only in nigeria construction of road will be making news

It's not limited to Nigeria, they do it everywhere.

Find something else to hate on..

isan:
so i am suppose to prraising for doing his job ?

Learn how to read and comprehend.

This is why I didn't feel bad about this PDP nan when he won that seat in Lagos so I'm realy not duprised that he's fighting so hard for Lagos and lagosians.

Kudos and more power to him..

Stolen:
Dude dont destroy our sea front with rail track that will kill people in accident. Road accident is enough.

We need Deep Seaport, period.

See ignorance. Road accidents kill more people than rail? Rail accident is very very rare..


You people just open mouth with zero care what comes out of your mouth even if it makes you sound ignorant and infantile..