₦airaland Forum

what if kano people like him?

Akhenaten:
I am done with this topic.

Some people cannot have a discussion without resort to insults.

then you should be coherent and precise when you open a topic

Akhenaten:
Because the main reason why this nation is together is due to oil.

that means that you are actually for the division of this country because if oil is what keeps the country together then it means that the country is artificial and has break up abi?

so again why the title?

Akhenaten:
Mehn some of you Igbo people. This thread is not even suppose to be about the Igbo, but some of you had to bring attention to us. One comment about Ijo fears of domination from a majority group, is enough to make some of you people act crazy.  

Even to the point for people to say I am not Igbo which is preposterous.

This thread is about exploitation of the Niger Delta.

how does 'this thread is about explanation of the niger delta' relate with 'to keep nigeria one is a task that must be done'?

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=586376.msg7550896#msg7550896 date=1295290178]
Zik, simply an asshat. F him.[/quote]well you should begin to understand why some igbos do not respect zik unlike ojukwu.

fstranger1:
Where are all my Igbo internet warriors

They've all suddenly grown wings!

actually a lot of igbos are not really in the habit of defending the likes of zik and ironsi.

i do not know the reason why i have the feeling that ahkenaten is ezeuche.

[quote author=aloy/emeka link=topic=585354.msg7545982#msg7545982 date=1295224012]How will you get tomatoes, garlic, ginger, yam, potatoes, beef, milk, etc?[/quote]yam is grown in large quantities in ohaji/egbema/oguta axis.why is new yam festival a popular festival in the east?

Obiagu1:
It was their initial deal with CPC which collapsed as far as I know. You have to ask yourself, why are they so bent on fielding a northener as their candidate? Are there no credible person in the SW?
It's an avenue to broaden their coverage which if it succeeds, will enhance the prospects of the VP.

well let us see how successful it would be,

Abeem:
We may not agree with their politics and everything the party stands for, but the truth remains PDP holds the ace, at least for now, in Nigerian politics. We can rightly say that when PDP sneezes, the other parties catches cold. Which is the reason why the other parties fixes their primaries right after PDP has concluded theirs. The rush to adopt Northern candidates as their flag bearer in the presidential election is not because other parties tacitly endorse zoning but I think it has to do with political expediency. And now that PDP has jetissoned zoning, it presents other parties the opportunity on a platter of gold to wrestle power from the PDP especially because of the flood of protest votes that are likely to swing to other parties from the North[b].The politicians are not docile; they have committees that are brainstoming on scenarios that will give them victory. That is why they have been talking about alliances and if it works, they stand a better chance of snatching victory from PDP[/b].

it is either they ally or they have their votes split.let me see which one of hem will blink stepdown for the other.

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=586897.msg7545910#msg7545910 date=1295222716]Thank you very much. In the likes of the present Govs. under the chairmanship of Peter Obi, and Uwechue's tenure, we're getting somewhere.[/quote]enyi peter obi is apga.

Obiagu1:
What I mean by soonest is that a SW man can't be nominated in PDP if the zoning had not gone round the whole zones, so they have nothing to lose if they scuffle that zoning now so that it will be free for all.

Their other plan is to use ACN, fielding a northerner and a[b] SW as vp, if that succeeds, then the VP has a better chance in the next 8 yrs[/b].

have they chosen a vp?who is the vp?when was he named?are you privy to what is going on in there

if they succeed in entering aso rock abi?when their structures in limited to sw and edo abi?

Obiagu1:
You're the one that's not making sense at all. SS have the presidency already in their hands, SW have been president and can only get is again soonest thru the back door, ACN; so they have nothing to lose. We the SE, what do we have? Insincerity, self deceit. Lets be real, mehn.

explain that?what do you mean soonest?does acn has ground in other states apart from sw and edo?get real.

Obiagu1:
If Igbo governors had not supported GEJ and rally for support of a northern candidate from northern governors, it would have changed a lot. But the scenerio was few governors in their forum opposing GEj which did not carry enough weight.

it is still not enough to say igbos did it themselves.bottomline is that those northern governors or western governors or delegates are looking out for themselves and not  igbo presidency 2015.they could care less about that because they are very likely not going to contest in that election.nothing on earth is going to make them care less about their ambition than a supposed easier igbo presidecncy 2015.i can understand if you are not happy about the outcome but blaming it igbo governors seems wishy washy for me because those other guys interests are not our interests.

like they say politics is all about interets.was the igbo rallying for a northern candidate protect the interest of a sitting northern governor that wants to run again and knows he has the backing of the incumbent president?

bashr4:
enugu state has the biggest poultry farm in nigeria ,it is located in ngwo , also anambra and imo are know for fishing farming especially cat fish(point and kill fish) why do u think its most popular in igbo land . the whole southern states produces palm oil and groundnut oil, salt, beef(igbo goatee is genetically different from nothern goatee) and the earterners prefer the southern goat as the meat is more tasty , honestly the south can do without the north, turkey,garri, cassava,rice, tomatoe ,vegetables, i can go on and on, every region can survive on its own , biafran hunger did not affect everybody the war did not reach my village in aguata anambra and they wer just fine also parts of ogbaru,imo state were ok.

guy do you know the name of the poultry?

Obiagu1:
If we had championed the campaign for a northern presidency without being divided between Ohaneze and governors on one side, and Ekweme group on the other side. I think a strong opposition to GEJ from both North and East would have produced a different result with everyone in country seeing the reason why the zoning should be preserved.
We failed on our side, so we defeated our chance by ourselves.

even if all igbos championed northern presidency to all and sundry what makes you think that the adamawa governor for eg would have supported that when the delegates (which the governors control anyway) would stll vote for goodluck so as to make sure that the chance of him coming back as a governor for second term is most likely guruanteed?

where do you think the interest of the governors the sent those delegates to vote lies more,a chance to hold on to power via endorsing of goodluck or a supposed presidency for a zone they really do not care about in 2015?

Obiagu1:
We defeated it ourselves. Like I said before, you can't eat your cake and still have it. I'm a realist. If the Igbo get the presidency after GEJ, I swear I'll never touch a computer ever again not to talk of browsing.

let me get this now.if all the igbo delegates voted for atiku and other states delegates vote remained the same would atiku had picked the ticket?If no then why say igbos defeated themselves?are the igbos reponsible for how other sections of the country voted?

Obiagu1:
You can't eat your cake and still have it. We gave 2015 away to GEJ, so we should stick with him. Anybody that tells you that GEJ will no contest in 2015 is just being ignorant. OBJ even wanted to amend the constitution to run for the 3rd time not to take of GEJ trying to complete is 2nd term which is his right and constitutionally permitted. Who's going to stop him?   You?

sorry just asking.were you supporting atiku with the belief he will handover to the igbo?

hmmm

Gbawe:
I am not saying that . I am suggesting that deliberately selfish actions may put Nigeria in a situation we may all regret . That is is cold reality.  What may happen because of selfish ambition may cause problems . Looking at what all the political Parties are doing shows, as I have argued , that the political establishment tacitly endorses zoning. Democracy is a Journey . absolutism will not work sometime . If zoning had held sway before perhaps opportunism that aggrieves a very clannish region(Yar Adua's death) may not be the best way to truncate zoning. We will no doubt be free of zoning in future because Nigeria cannot exist in a vacuum. Nonetheless , our leaders must be selfless if they want our nation to get where it needs to.

As it is many indolent misrulers have made it back as Governors and legislators because of their deal with GEJ . Are we really better off ? What Jonathan should have done to make him the father of modern Nigeria is to eschew selfishness by standing down to conduct a free and fair election. Believe me that if Jonathan is not contesting then every Party would produce a Northern presidential candidate just like in 2007. Jonathan , through free and fair elections , could ensure that , as much as possible, Nigeria gained the best leaders everywhere. that would be [b]far more transformational , less rancourous, more peaceful, than a situation where he opportunistically induces everyone so he remains in power with the same thieves who have underdeveloped Nigeria for the past couple of years while presenting a headache for Nigeria over the possible fallout his win may cost after May. long and short? Jonathan's win may cost us plenty yet gain Nigeria very little since we are stuck with the same looting misrulers like Alao Akala and the indolent legislators who refuse to pass any law that will move Nigeria forward.

ok

Gbawe:
April is beset with unpredictable scenarios . I have stated it many time that abolishing zoning , with a GEJ win , may not happen , without serious reppercussion, when it is the most clannish region in Nigeria that loses out. The ACN , CPC and ANPP are all showing tacit acquiescence with zoning with how they are all fielding Northern candidates in their Presidential slot. Some of us educated folks , in our high-handedness, simply do not understand the sheer number of malleable illiterates running around joblessly and aimlessly. We think things can happen and consequences be damned , simply because we want it to , when in reality our Nation may not be ready for such events.

IMO,  Jonathan will find it difficult to lead Nigeria if indeed , like many claim , he signed up for zoning only to now dump it for his own gain. Part of being a good and effective Politician is knowing the limit you can push the populace to with actions that may be irresponsible. You must understand those you lead very well also . I hope the Nigerian polity , in general , is mature enough for a Jonathan win in April given the prevailing scenario of bitter rancour caused by the zoning issue.

so because of the fear that the large no of illiterate northern may unleash mayhem on the country if a jonathan wins the other parts of the country should soji now?

by the way with the emergence of ribadu,shekarau and buhari wouldn't the votes in the north be split?

Ermm ndu chuks now that shekarau (ANPP) has joined the race does that mean more problems for ribadu vis a vis splitting of votes inj the north?

naijaspeak:
The Pain Dr Nwodo is going through is the work of his own people the Igbos (Easterners )
President Goodluck Jonathan gave Dr Nwodo this appointment to serve but his own people are making life difficult for him.
The easterners are fighting him in all front.

And it is coming at a time the Igbos are looking forward to becoming President.

Having failed to get this position since the time of Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe.

If the igbos are serious about getting the office of the President of Nigeria. They must be united themselves.

They must not blame Dr E. K Clarke as the person that is blocking their way. ( check Clarke response to their accusation in this week vanguard newspaper )

In a nutshell, I think what will deny the igbos or ibo ( easterner ) the presidency of this country is their lack of unity, greed for money and greed for position.

They do all this by fighting themselves.

I am from the south south region of this country. I think Dr. Jonathan is looking towards the east. But the way the igbos are fighting themselves will make them loose the opportunity to rule Nigeria.

SO IGBO UNITE IF YOU WANT THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT

Thank you

load of rubbish.why was nwodo interested in removing chime or making it difficult for chime to come back as governor of enugu under pdp?

and pls throw into the gutter this igbo 2015 presidency.nobody is interested in that angle as related nwodo.

,

kcjazz:
I think the Igbo threads sell more on this forum and yes some are entirely useless.

@topic, This is first a security problem and should be viewed as such. It could be Jos today and somewhere else tommorow. The government must be sincere in order to solve this problem.

keep waiting for government to be sincere when it has now become obvious that some elements in the military seem to be siding the northern muslims there.the igbo guys there should learn from the peers in kano on how to arm themselves instead of waiting for government whose sincerity hasa and will always be in question.

Onlytruth:
This thread is not useless.
You hardly see me opening Igbo threads because I agree with the fact that we not attract undue attention. However this topic is important. It could save the live of the next Igbo who is st00pidly thinking about buying that cheap piece of land and starting a business in those areas.
We need to warn our people to stay off those areas or arm up.
It doesn't mean I believe we can do it from these pages, but information is important for survival. I don't need to have killed any aboki to know that.

we are saying the same thing.i only used this thread to convey a message.how can i say this thread is useless?only a confirmed idiota will say that.

Abagworo:
There is nothing in Jos to make Igbos start fighting instead of coming back home to invest their little money.Heard a plot of land in GRA of Jos could go as low as 1million Naira.

the truth is that most of these guys that stay in the north have no homes in the east.the question now is that where will they stay if they want to relocate?

Onlytruth:
Yes, I agree that Igbos should not be opening unnecesary threads here. The question though is, is this thread necessary?
I say a resounding YES! I and other diasporans never even knew that Igbos are being killed in Jos. The thread brought that information to us.

I am more concerned about a pattern of indifference and withdrawal from Igbo sons on this forum.  If you don't have any recommendation to make about how we secure ourselves in Nigeria, then by all means move on.
But don't come here to make it seem as if those who are voicing opinion about how to secure our people are attracting attention unnecessarily.

This pattern of indifference and nonchalance is why Igbos are killed with impunity in Nigeria.
So, if you don't have any suggestions, please take your "indignance" elsewhere.

Ebulu ozu nwa onye ozo n'aga, o dika ebu ukwu nku!
Wait until it hits home.
Self-centered m0dafkcers.

your blood is too hot. remember i said 'off topic' and i put the post here because i know guys will more likely come here because of the sensitive nature o f this thread.

you think i am indifferent?have you hacked down a northerner before because of the nonsense that go on there?guy i have done things in my younger life spured by this sort of nonsense that go on there so never use indefference with me.if you feel there nothing wrong in opening a useless thread like the one i posted there then no wahala.

excanny:
Exactly my thoughts. It's really sickening to always see such topics littered all over the place and regretably started by professed Igbos.

man the thing tire me.i come to nairaland and open politics section immediately i will see up to 3 not just 1 but 3 igbo related topics. i am sorry to say this but afam4eva is highly guilty of this.

mens dept:
Great idea, though not original. Its mind boggling that our railways are deplorable when there's so[b] much money and development that can be achieved when railways are operating properly[/b]

nigerians politicians prefer flying.roads and railways are for poor men.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=586376.msg7540776#msg7540776 date=1295134196]I challenge anyone to provide information that will dispute the facts as I’ve laid them out.  I did not start the thread to insult Zik, Awo, or anyone else. The thread was started to educate some ignorant forumites about historical facts.  I believe that history is going to repeat itself once more.  What a shame![/quote][quote author=eku_bear link=topic=586376.msg7540600#msg7540600 date=1295131363]So nobody disagrees with what @ndu_chucks laid out?

If those are the facts, then how is Zik not an absolute jackass? Not trying to be disrespectful, but what he did seems absolutely selfish, shortsighted, and spiteful.[/quote]who are we really looking at now?  zik or buhari?

zik's case happened in 1979 right?it is past tense abi?

so that means the person we are focusing on is buhari so that he does not repeat the 'mistake' as zik?

ndu chuks from the post i guess you are against what buhari is trying to do right?

so why title the thread nnamdi azikiwe as shorsighted as buhar[/b]i when it should read [b]Buhari as shorsighted as Zik?

The selfish act of Zik’s is one of the main reasons Nigeria is in its current rotten position – Buhari is getting ready to make the same mistake.

so Zik is now the reason that nigeria is in a sorry state?

is buhari not independent minded enough not to make the 'mistake' zik made?

why must he allow zik's 'mistake' to guide him years later?

does it not mean he is a 'selfish' as zik?

off topic


on a more serious note guys can we for once stop attracting attention to oursleves?

i mean just open the politics forum and you immediately see up to 4 topics igbo related.i do not know about you guys but i find it distasteful.also can we also learn to ignore some comments that are obviuosly done to elicit response?i do not see all these as healthy especially when we open rather funny threads as below.


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-586478.0.html