₦airaland Forum

ezeagu:
They can still be classified as one language. It's also useful to note that some languages are being replaced by languages that have a high amount of people who prefer it like Hausa and Kanuri.

df2006:
jonathan,s greatest strength lies in his perception of being weak. rivals and foes keep underrating him, of cause at their own peril.

ilugunboy:
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The one with the problem is you and your people that believed the civil war has not ended until you recovered all that you lost as a result of the war.

If you believe that helping to stop Jonathan will help your quest to recover from the aftermath of the civil war, all I can wish you is Goodluck.

ezeagu:
The official census of Nigeria puts the Igbo population (rounding up the 5 Igbo states) at 24 million, and some people are even contesting this. From my own estimate, I would say the population of Alaigbo is around 35 million, and oversees Igbo are around maybe 1-3 million, that's obviously without people of Igbo descent through slavery.

I agree with you, but I think if there was an Igbo State/Province, Nnewi is important enough to have it's own division because of it's industry, I know you didn't say it wasn't but I'm just stating.

Onlytruth:
So how logical is the "group" thing? Let's have towns then. There is no town called Idemili.

If we do this by towns, then, in Anambra state, only Onicha can generate more internal revenue than Nnewi, even today. And that will likely change as the industries in Nnewi finally take shape.

Onlytruth:
You are wrong.

I'm not looking at it from the perspective of residence. I'm looking at it from indigeneship angle, which is what "groups" represent . You need to visit Onitsha and Nnewi on a Christmas day to understand. If we are talking about the population of indigenes, Nnewi is bigger. We are looking at groups, eg, Idemili has many towns: Obosi, Alor, Nkpor, Ogidi, Abatete, Nnobi, etc.
Nnewi (Anaedo) has many towns too: Nnewi, Orifite, Ozubulu, ukpor, Amichi, Ezinifite, Ichi, etc. These are all Nnewi group.

Onitsha is very small really.
Even if we do this by town only counting indigenes only, Nnewi is bigger in population than Onitsha.
The same flaw applies to all the other groups listed before.


[quote author=Onlytruth link=topic=500126.msg6733161#msg6733161 date=1284156001]I see there is really a lot of ignorance about Nnewi on this thread. It seems as if industry and commerce has overshadowed everything else about Nnewi.

Onlytruth:
Population wise and land wise.

Onicha is really small. I grew up there so I know.

Onlytruth:
The map is awesome!

Now that the thread is no longer in politics section, I can say these:

Only thing I don't understand is where Nnewi falls into. I know that Nnewi (or Anaedo) is bigger than some groups represented on this map, and you cannot subsume it under Idemili or Onicha.The tail does not wag the dog. It is bigger than Onicha. Anaedo is made up of at least 4 towns. If you add those towns in the south , it goes up to about 10 towns. So Nnewi or Anaedo should be delineated.

ezeagu:
I can't find the article, but they regularly link with their people in Orlu.

Contentious? So Rumuibekwe, Diobu, Ogbunabali and Rumuigbo are contentious?

chyz:
[img]http://www.spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de/LangDoc/EGA/Proposals/Ega-proposal2/sv019026.jpg[/img]

ezeagu:
The map is rough.

To complete the divisions, each province should have divisions called wards like in Monaco and Japan so that smaller groups can have their own little autonomy. So for example there can be an Nnewi ward or Ibeku ward, Ikwerre ward, etc, these would be the final major divisions before town/villages and districts.

No one will be kicked out of nowhere, there's no plan for a 100% Igbo country, just a 100% Igbo cultured country. People all over the world have to conform to the countries that they are in, and it should be no different with Alaigbo. I can bet you the majority of Igbo people would vote a non-Igbo even in their country as Prime-Minister, etc., as long as they have the peoples interest at heart. Bonny and Opobo have as their founders Igbo people, so that should be considered when people start claiming. Opobo has reached out to the Igbo and they have close relationships with Igbo groups especially in Imo. Port Harcourt was created for Enugwu and was positioned on the edge of Alaigbo, so I don't know why anyone else should claim it. The map is still rough and it's just a start so anything can change, although the divisions aren't solely based on dialect, but considers geography and interconnection as well.

You are free to waste your resources if you want to contest outside your region. For a people to vote for a foreigner, that foreigner must make the indigenes feel he is a part of them. He must also make them feel that he is a better candidate than indigenous candidates and that he will serve their interests better than anyone else.

If I was from Oyo state and Akala was competing against Donald Duke, I will not think twice about voting for Donald Duke. I hope you get the point I am making now. At the time Zik wanted to be premier, there were numerous Yoruba candidates who were just as educated and qualified as Zik.

Well i am following the arguments in this thread. I think i have answered your questions anyways. And please, Lagos Yoruba is different from other Yoruba dialects. Even if he wanted to rule over Yoruba's will he understand our very respectful nature? Will he recognize the powers of the Aalafin? Will he understand our festivals and rites? i dont think so. Its not possiple abeg, we cannot let someone come and throw our centuries old traditions into the air. All in the name of civilization and ziks made up words.lol. He simply was not fit to rule the whole western region, sorry.

Am I missing something? Is a Hausa man barred from competing in Ogun or is an Igbo woman barred from competing in Gombe?

Had to the mix the constant boasting from Igbo sons such as Onlytruth, Mekus, and EzeUche about Igbo people buying up Lagos. There are many Lagos sons who frequent this forum and are getting riled at such comments. That will certainly get their tails up against any moves being made in the future by Igbo sons with regards to political positions.

Posted by: Onlytruth  
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Well, now the thread has been moved. Maybe the clannishness will stop. Sighs.

well hes wrong, Mbaise is no way northern igbo at all! lol

I believe mbaise is southern Igbo

Abagworo  
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Some of us here have not really interacted with the various Igbo clans but have drawn our maps adding them to a proposed Igbo country.There is no need to attack chinenyen because he is frank in his approach to issues.when I wrote northern and eastern igbos I meant the entire anambra,orlu,mbaise,etiti and mbano area of imo,arochukwu,bende,ohafia,igbere,abiriba,nkporo,alayi,ozuitem etc.