Politics › Re: For Development, Are We Ready To Let The Past Go? by asha80(m): 10:41am On Jan 28, 2010 |
Ikengawo: a people's culture is basically formed by how those ppl attain food. simple as that.
i can go into examples if anyone needs it but the culture africans use is one built for and in the feudal era. i dont believe in totally destroying what's ours but i do believe in evolving it with time appropriately and uniquely if need be.
another aspect of our culture that stunts growth is our attitude towards land. africans are extremely reluctant to sell land because they attach cultural significance to it. even though capitalism is based on the selling of property.
these leaves every village, and everyone has seen this, with random patches of grassy undeveloped land that companies might be lining up to buy and do something with, but the owner doesn't want to sell it cause of the cultural significance even though he's poor and can use the money. Not all former or present ethnic groups in africa practiced Feudalism. |
Politics › Re: For Development, Are We Ready To Let The Past Go? by asha80(m): 10:38am On Jan 28, 2010 |
Ikengawo: People speak of development while ignoring some important things we will inevitably have to give up that make nigeria nigeria.
when Japan decided to modernize in the Meiji Restoration, the personally turned their own culture upside down to make a culture capable of supporting development
Japan, the country with the highest concentration of warriors in the ancient world got rid of the samurais that defined it's culture it ban ways of conduct that were considered culture and took power away from feudal lords that had upheld the nation for ages.
Turkey did a similar thing with attaturk which is why today Turk seems more westernized then the other muslim countries around it.
so my question is are africans willing to give up parts of our own culture that dont make sense in a modern world in order to develop.
my first example is the african market
in the days of substance agriculture, the ancient days, people would grow their own produce, eat, and sell the extra in the market. these markets came to become a lot of our ancient cities and as they grew they became staples of african culture.
[b]the problem? we are using the same market system we used in 1300 in 2010. the consequence? modern things like intellectual property can be EASILY duplicated and pirated markets cannot be regulated or taxed properly markets promote inferior products like fake medicine, fake electronics, fake clothes, and fake food again because they can't be regulated markets promote substance agriculture which keeps communities and countries poor in comparison to commercial agriculture markets make city planning impossible markets encourage shanty developments and this can be seen in the fact that shanty developments are always by a market markets allow for child labor and make it impossible to focus on consumer or employee rights markets discourage fiance and capital investment and most markets are stagnate entities which their owner doesn't expect to grow beyond the basic level markets aren't making anyone rich in simple terms.
so we're left with an economy that can't be regulated, can't be taxed, can't be improved easily, and is a breeding ground for pirating, inferior goods, dangerous goods, and manipulation of owners and consumers. [/b]
as other countries have realized elements of their cultures that must go in order for development to happen, the africa belief in pan africanism or the overtly romantic view of our past as perfect sometimes gets in the way of us making important sacrifices Are you saying we should eradicate markets in africa or modernize them? |
Politics › Re: Chinua Achebe - What Nigeria Means To Me by asha80(m): 10:31am On Jan 28, 2010 |
Instead of Babapupa of saying lagos is moving ahead which every one knows he chips in 'yorubas' are moving ahead because lagos is geographically a yoruba region.
I can see how ekiti,OGD daniels ogun and Akala's oyo is moving ahead.lwkmd |
Politics › Re: Chinua Achebe - What Nigeria Means To Me by asha80(m): 9:27am On Jan 28, 2010 |
any person that says eastern region was not developing under micheal okpara is either trying to be mischievous or plain ignorant. |
Politics › Re: Judge Awards ₦100m Damages To Uzoma Okere by asha80(op): 11:09pm On Jan 27, 2010 |
Mekus to be honest you go over the board at times. |
Politics › Re: Judge Awards ₦100m Damages To Uzoma Okere by asha80(op): 7:23pm On Jan 27, 2010 |
mikeansy: The girl don hammer oh!!!!!!!!
Nigerian chicks go begin find who go beat them make dem for go court  |
Politics › Re: Moderator Please Move To The Right Section, Not Sure Where To Post This. by asha80(m): 7:22pm On Jan 27, 2010 |
Guy there is nothing funny about the first pic. |
Politics › Re: Judge Awards ₦100m Damages To Uzoma Okere by asha80(op): 7:19pm On Jan 27, 2010 |
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Politics › Judge Awards ₦100m Damages To Uzoma Okere by asha80(op): 7:18pm On Jan 27, 2010 |
Judge awards ₦100m damages to Uzoma Okere
Justice Opeyemi Oke of the Lagos High Court sitting in Igbosere has awarded ₦100 million in damages to Uzoma Okere who was assaulted by four officers of the Nigerian Navy on November 3, 2008.
Ms. Okere sued Rear-Admiral Harry Arogundade, the four naval ratings in his convoy whom she said beat and stripped her on the stated date, when she refused to leave the road for the convoy.
As part of the judgement, the court also asked the respondents to write a letter of apology to the claimants, which must be published in at least four newspapers within one month of the judgement. http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5518438-146/story.csp |
Politics › Re: Gov Obi Takes Anambra Into Global ICT Reckoning by asha80(m): 7:15pm On Jan 27, 2010 |
ziga: @post
Mr. Governor is only trying to use makeup to cover wrinkles.
Instead of providing 108 30kva generators, why not work at improving electricity supply. Are you a nigerian?  |
Politics › Re: Watch Ojo Mmaduekwe Talking Trash On Bbc Hard Talk. by asha80(m): 6:44pm On Jan 27, 2010 |
OPCman: Thank you for your civilized and mildly put thought. Compared with those who are ashamed of being known as Ibo and always bring tribalism into everything being said about their people and their nation as if there is no Ibo people and no Ibo nation in Nigeria. Even Ojo Maduekwe said in the interview that he is a Nigerian Ibo who represent Abia state not a Yoruba Nigerian who represent Ogun or Lagos in FEC.
Yoruba will say 'ti oju ba nse pin ka'fi han oju' (If any part of your body is causing or giving you problem say it and let it be know in order to know the medicine to apply to cure it). Nigeria mismanagement and mal-administraion will stop if the Ndigbo elites stop playing the Ostrich games to spite the Yoruba by teaming up with the Northerners. If the Ibo educated elites should stop worshipping power and money from the federal government , Hausa Fulani Nigerian will stop using them for all the dirty jobs, then, we would all have a decent and civilized country. Ibo people should stop defending indefensible, they should be ready to call a pade a spade at all time.
In the Yoruba nation we Yoruba know how to deal with the traitors and political jobbers in our midst i.e Obasanjo, Shonekan, Akinjide & co, the reason these Yoruba bastards will never allow Nigeria to break because they know they would have to leave the Yorubaland for the Yoruba people. Ibo nation should do the same for those disgracing and devalueing their value in Nigeria context. So igbos are the people that are preventing nigeria from becoming a country to envy?Get the Bleep out here! |
Politics › Re: Gov Obi Takes Anambra Into Global ICT Reckoning by asha80(m): 5:21pm On Jan 27, 2010 |
no comment |
Politics › Re: Fashola Speaking Almost Like Our President(video) by asha80(m): 8:40pm On Jan 26, 2010 |
PapaBrowne: Yeah! Kano and Kaduna do have a pretty sizey economy, but the question is- How do you get natural gas from the Niger Delta all the way to the north? The cost of building gas pipelines all the way to the north will scare away the richest Arab sheik!!
The only other options would have been alternative sources like solar energy, however this is too expensive for Northern State Governments and not profitable at all for any private investor! What about wind power? |
TV/Movies › Re: 24 Season 8 Begins 17th Jan by asha80(m): 8:23pm On Jan 26, 2010 |
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=378953.msg5391670#msg5391670 date=1264528310]Just saw episode 5 and Renee is in trouble already. . . . She was 10 seconds away from being shot by a bad guy but her tears saved her life. . . .
Jack Bauer also got outfoxed by the hoodlums. . . . . This is getting interesting.[/quote]Guy abeg throw link now? |
Politics › Re: Fashola Speaking Almost Like Our President(video) by asha80(m): 8:12pm On Jan 26, 2010 |
PapaBrowne: Yes you are right that we need a national grid. However, under normal circumstances, it should not be compulsory to turn in all the power you generate into the national grid! You should only turn in power you don't need so that others can pay for it and make use of it. Allow states and other private organs generate and distribute electricity and our power problems would be solved in less than 5 years. Just look at what happened in the telecoms sector.
The reason the government is not willing to review this policy boils down again to the northern hegemony. If the power sector is privatised, almost all investments in the sector would go down south both because of the proximity to Natural Gas in the Niger Delta and the fact that the largest market for energy use is in the south, Almost no investments will go to up north because the cost of transporting gas coupled with the relatively small economy in the north would naturally discourage any investor. Are you sure about that?I thought that Kano has a big economy?Also adding the likes of Kaduna and maybe Maidugiri.I think if power becomes stable in the north a whole lot of their economy will kick back into action provided that the religiuos disturbances there can be solved. Sometimes i wonder what the economy of lagos,ibadan,nnewi,aba,onitsha will be like with constant power. |
Politics › Re: Fashola Speaking Almost Like Our President(video) by asha80(m): 7:11pm On Jan 26, 2010 |
On power generation as far we have this issue of national grid no state can achieve stable power. |
Politics › Re: Chinua Achebe - What Nigeria Means To Me by asha80(m): 6:53pm On Jan 26, 2010 |
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Politics › Re: Chinua Achebe - What Nigeria Means To Me by asha80(m): 5:50pm On Jan 26, 2010 |
akigbemaru: I may put Lagos foo.l, you can't match me because words are not sweet in your mouth. Your mild is bitter like a bile I know that's right fo.ol. We Yorubas never claimed we have (Abia--the Japan of Africa), (Onitsha--the London of Africa), (Enugu--the Dubai of Africa), (Makurdi--the USA of Africa), but at the end of the day, none of these generated 10 billion nairas for government in 2008. Lagos State single-handedly generated 160 billion nairas and gave back 80 billion nairas to Government, so that government can use it to sustain all your USA, Japan, Dubai of Africa. Bullsh, ts!! Ignorance is a disease. |
Sports › Re: Nigeria Vs Zambia: Super Eagles Win On Penalties (Nations Cup) by asha80(m): 9:43pm On Jan 25, 2010 |
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Politics › Re: What Is Nigeria's Most Worrisome Problem by asha80(m): 4:13pm On Jan 25, 2010 |
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Romance › Re: Ladies Of High Taste by asha80(m): 1:31pm On Jan 25, 2010 |
Sagamite: Get her whatever she wants and ask for no matter how expensive.
Try and understand what her friends' boyfriends by the friends and try and top it with whatever funds you can lay your hands on. Visit the best designer shops and blow your funds or max out credit cards to get her the top gears.
She deserves it since you seem like the type that cannot lay it bluntly and have to come online for help.
No woman that knows me would come and lay that kinda of crap on my doorstep. Such conversations would even struggle to come out from her mouth as she would be stammering so hard because she is visualising the look I would give her before the cutting words come from my mouth.  |
Crime › Re: Rev Imasuen Kidnapped For N50m Ransom by asha80(m): 1:15pm On Jan 25, 2010 |
Pay day is near. |
Politics › Re: Mysterious’ Lion Causes Panic In Delta Community by asha80(m): 12:52pm On Jan 25, 2010 |
Lions do not exist naturally in the terrain delta state is situated in unless it eascaped from the zoo there. |
Politics › Re: Chinua Achebe - What Nigeria Means To Me by asha80(m): 11:21am On Jan 25, 2010 |
You guys have derailed from the thread. |
Politics › Re: Ex-abia Gov Sets Up Varsity by asha80(m): 10:59am On Jan 25, 2010 |
Looted Money  |
Politics › Re: Decay In Nigeria Today. Who's To Blame? Colonial Master Or Nigerians? by asha80(m): 11:38pm On Jan 24, 2010 |
[quote author=tpia. link=topic=386965.msg5379098#msg5379098 date=1264372223]we simply do not have a maintenance culture.
That's a pressing area we have to work on.
The tropical climate may also have something to do with this.[/quote]If i am not mistaken the American state of Florida is in the tropics. |
Politics › Re: Violence In Sokoto? Not Religious/Political Says Police by asha80(m): 9:13pm On Jan 24, 2010 |
Bluetooth google is your friend. |
Politics › Re: Chinua Achebe - What Nigeria Means To Me by asha80(m): 2:47am On Jan 24, 2010 |
akigbemaru: Aloy.Emeka and Onlytruth. Don’t get it twisted, if you look at the history or archive of pre-Nigeria era, you shall find out that no other tribe in Nigeria of today had fought more wars or as powerful as Oyo Empire. Go and check British archives, when wars were fought with foot – which they called infantry soldiers; you will definitely give it to Yoruba. When wars were fought with horses – which they called cavalry soldiers – In fact, this gave Yoruba warriors hegemony and commanding leads when it comes to war back then. You go to National Theater in Iganmu or TBS in Race-course and you see horse statues, you might not know what they meant, but they are a commemoration to immortalize our lost cavalry soldiers. It took all the world powers of then to defeat Oyo Empire. Portugal came through port novo, France digging from Seme, Germany from Calabar, British from Ibo land. They all came hard with one mission to collapse Oyo Empire. It’s Ibos that are coward and Backstabbers. If Yorubas never like Ibos, we would not help you codify your language If Yorubas never like Ibos, we would not bring Christianity to your domain and build the first ever to be known in Ibos’ history If Yorubas never like Ibos, we would not allow you to continuing mooching us. But you people didn't have good advisers, when you left East and coming to invade West, it means you have climbed your trees more than leaves. I have said it many times, if Ibos want Biafran country, you have Bakassi and kidnappers, let them bomb Niger and Benue bridge and continue to govern yourselves. But one warning though, Nigeria is 921,000 square kilometers, you only have 27,000 square kilometers to govern, which I called Ibo land, if you people take a step further that 27,000 square kilometers. Then, you are looking for trouble. What do you by this? |
Politics › Re: Chinua Achebe - What Nigeria Means To Me by asha80(m): 2:33am On Jan 24, 2010 |
Katsumoto: I agree with both you posts; and that is why I lay the blame for the mess called Nigeria at the feet of our leaders and the British who ignored the obvious differences in the make-up of the country but created the country for selfish reasons. Asha_80, I particularly agree with your point about Ndigbo and Southern Cameroun. They are so similar in many instances that it would have made sense to merge those two regions.
I only emphasised size because it is an advantage today and it is increasingly showing signs of being important in the future, otherwise, why would China and India join BRIC. That is Onlytruth's point not mine. |
Politics › Re: Chinua Achebe - What Nigeria Means To Me by asha80(m): 2:19am On Jan 24, 2010 |
Katsumoto: Thank you for that. The strength of America today lies in it diversity. It embraces the unique skill-sets of every American, it does not value one section more than another because they are different. What America seeks is the best in every sphere of life. I believe that our leaders in Nigeria have failed because they lacked and still lack the vision to truly harness the gifts of all indigenous people of Nigeria. If, and when, Nigeria breaks up, we will all be the loser for it. All over the world, countries are forming alliances because their is strength in numbers. The strength and bargaining power of the Chinese today is the size of their market. The Chinese are not particularly innovative.
The European Union was formed to counter the strength of the US. The BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, and China) union was formed by the largest countries to counter the strengths of the EU and US. Incidentally the BRIC countries are all developing nations. Our visionless leaders should have been working to be included in such a bloc. Afterall, Nigeria is the largest black nation in the world. Instead, we are forced to keep debating break up. If and when we do break up, we would have lost that advantage. The constituent and emerging republics would be smaller than Ghana, Congo, SA, etc i am more interested in a working country that a large sleeping burden naija is now.If you ask me to choose btw been from luxermburg or naija the answer is obvious.Why did you even include congo here  Seriously congo?of what use is the size or whatever you are using to compare to the eventual break up of naija? Note countries forming unions are already independent nations entering into a union for there own benefits in which they can pull out anytime they want if they feel thge union is no longer working for them.You cannot use them to compare to the situation in nigeria. Mind you slovenia that broke out of the then yugoslavia has an economy that is regarded better than that of greece before they even entered EU(ie if they have entered because i heard they applied for it) |
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Politics › Re: Chinua Achebe - What Nigeria Means To Me by asha80(m): 12:51am On Jan 24, 2010 |
@katsumoto
Murtala mohammed might have been a murderous but he was definitly not a strategist as shown when his troops were roundly trounced in Onitsha. |