₦airaland Forum

NOETHNICITY:
U see ursef. Igbos re alws selfish. I m sure u ve carefully outlined the oil rich tribes like Ijaw and Itsekiri as part of the movement. Ibo will alws be ibo. But don't worry, u don't need to bother at all about any of the tribes in the Delta.

In a referendum, everyone will have the opportunity to vote in or out. So don't worry, nobody will force anyone into anything like Nigeria did to all of us. The days of 'I must be with you by force' is long gone.

NOETHNICITY:
Forcing ND into Biafra.

You have to mention what tribes you are talking about because not all the tribes in your so called ND are part of the movement.

StOla:
So why did Peter Obi of Anambra relocate destitutes from Ebonyi and Akwa Ibom back to their state of origin, and this happened before Fashola's action?

No state government likes to have destitutes on its streets. Like Peter Obi, like Fashola.

So what is good for the goose is not good for the gander?

When a market in Oshodi was recently demolished and the Yoruba owners of the shops moved on, their Igbo tenants were crying allover that they were being victimised for being Igbo, despite the market being populated by majority Yoruba. Several notices had also been given to the traders to relocate before the eventual demolition.

It has always been the curse of the immigrant to think that their host would suffer in the wake of their exit. Immigrants in USA, UK, France, Germany etc feel the same way, so it is no surprise Igbos feel the same about Lagos or Kano.

The mistake every immigrant tribe make is that once you leave, another ethnic grouping will fill the void. You do not contribute anything unique. You are there because you need to be there for greener pastures, not because you were implored to come render any help.

You will not be missed.

Misguided!
What Peter Obi did and what Fashola did are not the same thing. Peter laised with the Government of the indigenes state to take care of their wards on return. But Fashola just moved people to the middle of nowhere, dumped them there and moved on as if they are nothing. That was very bad of Fashola but I do accept the fact that he apologised.

It is very bad of you to call an Igbo man an immigrant in Nigeria. The concept of 'one Nigeria' is that I as an Igbo man must feel as comfortable in any part of Nigeria as I feel in Enugu. The concept of 'one Nigeria' is that there is no 'Yoruba land', Akure might as well be Aba. You cannot say 'my land' and be saying 'one Nigeria' at the same time. One must give way. If you don't like it then create Oduduwa Republic and proclaim your sovereignty just like Igbos once did with Biafra. But as long you guys still stand by one Nigeria, you must abide by its meaning. The 'SW' is an extension of Igbo land as far as I'm concerned and I'm backed up by the constitution to make that claim.

Hagm0nd:
you this young boy,if Igbo's with all their 'commercial grit' can't develop Onitsha and aba where they have higher population than Lagos to become Dubai, don't you think something is fundamentally wrong with them.

The way Nigeria is constituted and presently run, only God himself can turn any part of Nigeria into Dubai

NOETHNICITY:
So why re u gys trying to force us into a UNION with u guys?

Forcing who into what?

NOETHNICITY:
So why re u gys trying to force us into a UNION with u guys?

Force who into what?

Hagm0nd:
are ibos the only tribe in nigeria living in Lagos,why is that Yorubas do not complain of other tribes in their land except ibos.

They shouldnt be complaining because history tells us that the same Igbos left in 1967 for their new country. It was the same Yoruba man and his Nothern friends that came down to the East to fight for three years to bring Igbos back.

StOla:
If you remember the cries from the SE when Fashola relocated destitutes to Anambra, having already done same to other regions without similar reaction, then your question was already answered then.

When you take candy from a kid, you should expect tears.

Take Lagos away from Igbos that claim Lagos need them, expect all manner of wailing and begging.

How can you be deporting someone and be shouting 'one Nigeria' at the same time? That act of hypocrisy is what infuriated most Igbos such as myself. Yorubas have since turned that deportation saga into a sign that Igbos can't do without Lagos. I have no doubt in my mind that if all Igbos Lagos left, the place would be dead within a year because like it or lump it, Yorubas don't have the level of 'commercial grit' Igbos have.

Joe Yorubakwe is a man who has lost touch with moving times. The man thinks the world starts and stops with Lagos. Has Joe Yorubakwe ever bothered to ask Igbos why they are disenchanted with Government of the day? What he is more interested in is why Igbos didn't follow him and APC zombies to lick the a$$ of Buhari. Like most sychophants, Yorubakwe has a one track mind. When will he address the salient points on the ground such as true federalism, Fiscal responsibility, resource control, autonomy and Igbo sovereignty? Right before his eyes, a process of Northernising Government is happening and he is busy singing the praise of the bigoted Buhari. What has he said about herdsmen attacks? Where is the confab report? Can Yorubakwe tell us any single capital project that Buhari has commissioned after one year in office? Has the economy improved or gotten worse under Buhari? Yorubakwe should spare us his useless sermons and start confronting the faliure of his party and the faliure of the Nigerian project

The largest number of indigenous Nigerians in Britain and America are Yorubas. But you will never hear the British or Americans saying 'Yorubas are running away from their land to come here because there is nothing there'

OgundeleT:
and there are rules that guide it. you cant just be insulting and inciting people against each other

There are no rules that guide it because freedom is a right not a privilege, particularly when what you freeing your self from is something you were forced into against your will. As an Igbo man, if there were people that were insulting me because we are in the same country, I would even be the person chasing away those people to go

hrykanu231:
The same guy that said he was fighting for us, turned his back on the region and built his school somewhere else. He is not different from the "polithiefians"

He already said that the reason he built his School in another country is because he does not believe his investment will be safe in Nigeria

OgundeleT:
@bolded show u people are ignorant but u people don't know

There nothing ignorant about people wanting their freedom to administer themselves. It's called self determination

omenka:
iPod is nothing but an instrument, a terrorist organisation, created by PDP to distract, frustrate and sabotage any incoming government in an event Jonathan loses his bid for retention in Abuja.

This is evident in the fact that her most fervent supporters would kill and die for the likes of Fayose, Fani Kay ode, Saraki, Dasuki, Dopkesi, El Zakzaki, and the rest of those that bear no allegiance whatsoever to their fabled enclave.



It is nothing but a collection of indescribably gullible youths and a few grandpas who feel their misery in life is as a result of anyone else's action but theirs, and were sold a very stupid dummy to hate anyone who supports any party but PDP anyone but Jonathan.

Ask them what the map of their imaginary country looks like and you'd get as many divergent responses as the number of respondents!

Ask what their system of government would be and you get a similar answer as above.

All they do is stir up trouble online and offline, threaten to kill anyone who doesn't accept their stupid naratives even if they person is their blood brother, hold bishops to ransom in streets unless he pledges allegiance to their course, create a useless currency that can't buy even an office pin, etc.

I pray they receive sense someday.

With what you have written about IPOB and the Biafran movement, one would have thought you would actually be happy to see them go. As an Igbo man, God knows that I would not want to do 'one Nigeria' with people who are insulting and threatening me.

shukuokukobambi:
Ayaf hear you

Yeah, just remind your Northern brothers that next time we leave, none of you should come to the East looking for us like you guy's did last time.

martinslanre:
bro there's no Ill thought to this. It's not my problem if anyone cant comprehend the essence of this write up. Nothing good comes out of disunity

Nothing good comes out of 'enforced unity' either. If there are people who don't want be with you, then you have no business being with them

shukuokukobambi:
@martinslanre, check the bold and see the idiocy your post is making this revisionist engage in??

You can see the eternal victim twisting facts to enable him heap all his woes and failures in life on Yoruba all because of your stupid and ill-thought write up?

You can say whatever, but it won't change the fact that the bolded is true.

martinslanre:
There's Boko Haram and Fulani Herdsmen from the North, our brothers from the East are clamoring for Biafra while our kinsmen from South have Avengers. There seem to be one particular thing from each region from Nigeria that threatens it's peace and harmony except the Western region. We in the Western region have peace and harmony.

Our desire for peace and harmony runs through our vain and was passed to us by our great father's fathers down to us. But our unquenchable thirst for peace should not be misunderstood for weakness, instead it should be seen as a sign of strength; strength born out of wisdom and uncommon knowledge. Our great fathers before us know and we that are here now also know that the value of peace is of inestimable value and that is why we will always be ahead of them and that is why our land will be the point of convergence to all other region when they need neutral ground.

Our peaceful state makes it easy to think and reason "Omo Yoruba Ronu" and that makes us see what they are yet to see. The unity we clamor for is not for our sake alone but for the sake of everyone that is still within this nation as at this point in time.
The south wants to go, the east wants to go. May heaven and the universe punish and never forgive any Nigerian leader that will sanction that move, because it will be hard to see people we once call brothers to end up suffering and in disarray. South Sudan got it's independence 5 years ago and today there are over 1.6million South Sudanese that are displaced, more than 850 thousand registered south Sudanese refugees in other nations while more than 270 thousand are displaced inside Sudan itself. What baffles me is that the people that are suffering the most are those who don't know the genesis or the reasons for the disintegration. Those who called for it are in good conditions and leaving like kings and queens.

If you are Igbo(east) or from the Niger-delta (South) you should ask yourself some critical questions. Why fight a war you know nothing about, do you know the origin of the agitation apart from those your parents told you?
Will those who tell us to fight and protest on the street boldly come out with their wives and kids to demand for what we are demanding for?
Ojukwu ran when the going got tough, Tompolo is on the run as at now too, Asari Dokubo built his private university in another nation...Will those people telling you to do what you are doing run when the going gets tough again?

There are mechanisms to running a nation and those should be put in place first before going if it becomes compulsory and necessary to go. If any of the two regions leave Nigeria as at now it will be a successful suicidal attempt. The leaders that will be leading those nation will be the same leaders who have been and are still currently looting their allocations and eating what belongs to those regions. Those regions have governors, senators and representatives if they will lead them well in their future nation then we should see the signs without stressing our eyes now " Sunday to ba ma dara, ale Saturday lati mo"

We can and we will surely make it together as a Nation. No other black nation is arguably better than us even in our mess, now imagine us in our greatness or when we are operating at our rightful potential. Our population and diversity is in itself a blessing and I don't mean to be rude when I say a rightful working Nigeria will be rubbing shoulders with USA UK France, all we need are leaders who genuinely love us and splitting won't provide any region with the perfect leader.

You guys from the SW make me laugh. What was the point of this you write up? You have had Nigeria for 102 years, it is still a messed up place with 70% porverty rate. So what is the point of it? The last time there was Biafra, it was you guys that teamed up with your Northern friends to come to the East where people were enjoying their new found freedom to start a war. After fighting for 'one Nigeria', where is Nigeria today? Nigeria is even more divided now than the day Ojukwu declared Biafra. Have you ever seen a divided people who make progress? Why can't you go and manage your self in Oduduwa Republic and strive to rub shoulders with America? You are busy looking for who you will do 'one Nigeria' with even though the evidence is all around you that one Nigeria does not work.

I don't know who this Uduchukwu guy is but his write up is total nonsense.

He said that IPOB has not told Biafrans what system of Government Biafra will run on------ That is not the job of IPOB. Biafrans can always hold a constitutional conference and decide what mode of Government they want. IPOB is a freedom fighting outfit not a political outfit


He called Radio Biafra an underground Radio station that is poisoning the minds of the youth---------- Radio Biafra is registered in the UK, there is nothing underground about it. As for poisoning the minds of the youth, Radio Biafra does not have to do that. Just looking at the mess called Nigeria is enough to poison anyone's mind.

He talked about opinion poll in the Niger-Delta. What exactly does he mean by Niger-Delta? Is there any tribe that goes by that name? The Biafran secessionist have consistently stated they want a referendum and that anyone who does not like the issue of Biafra can vote not to be part of it and their decision will be respected. Biafra is about freedom, not the enforced unity characterised by Nigeria.

Uduchukwu said that Kanu only wants to cash in on sentiments following the loss of GEJ. What an ignoramus! Kanu was a member of MASSOB long before GEJ ever came to power before he fell out with Uwazuruike. Kanu has been broadcasting Radio Biafra since 2009.


He also said that the UN does not joke with the territorial integrity of member nations and that IPOB should be lobbying the UN. This is true and there are Biafran elements that have approached the UN in this regard. But I want to remind Mr Uduchukwu that neither Lord Lugard nor the British approached the UN when they forced us to be 'Nigerians' at Gun point

Mr Uduchukwu said that the May 30th massacre was caused when IPOB threw 2 Police men into the river. Is he aware that killing by the Nigerian Army actually started on the night of the 29th at St Edmunds Church Nkpor? What has Uduchukwu said about the many shootings of unarmed Biafran protesters before now? Has he watched the YouTube video of the Nigerian Army shooting Biafran protesters where they were praying at Ngwa high School Aba on the 9th of February this year? While there are pictures and videos on the Internet showing how Biafran protesters were murdered by the Nigerian Army, can Uduchukwu produce one evidence that Policemen were thrown into the River? Or is it hearsay?

Uduchukwu said that IPOB are insulting everyone and calling Nigeria a zoo. Under their right to free speech, IPOB and Nnamdi Kanu are free to insult anyone and call Nigeria anything. Insult is not a crime and no one is being forced to listen.

Finally, he said that Biafra is dead and buried and that Biafra under Nnamdi Kanu cannot rise. Biafra is dead and buried but it is giving people like Uduchukwu nightmare. As for Nnamdi Kanu, he has said it many times that he is a freedom fighter not a politician. His job is only to secure Biafra and not to lead it.

Anyone who knows this Uduchukwu guy should paste my above counter argument this on his Facebook wall

Marthaodion:
You see yourself, if there is true progress in the nation, it will affect all the states. So what are you trying to say? Also if I am right, I think the oil producing states gets the biggest allocation which is also a good thing, but what are their governor's and representatives doing with their money?
You see, some of the food crops you eat are from other parts of the nation. Most times, these agitations are based on selfish motions. All parts of the body is important.

Of course the agitation is for selfish reasons. Dokubo and his people in the Niger-Delta know they don't need Nigeria. With their Oil and Gas wealth, they can buy all the foreign rice in Japan and all the Tomatoes in Spain. They can afford to be selfish, Nigeria needs them much more than they need Nigeria

Marthaodion:
It's a pity that people like this Asari are still walking free and doing as he likes in this country. Someone that should be behind bars. He is among those that don't want this country to progress, cos if the country progresses then hunger will finish them. Continue your evil GOD is watching you, when you are done destroying your lands and increasing the sufferings of the average Niger deltans and the entire nation, let me know. GOD will make a way. NB: I am neither APC nor PDP.

Dokubo Asari is not against the progress of the Country. What he is against is the country progressing on the back his people's Oil.

Some of these APC Zombies have nothing better to do than compare the Government of GEJ and Buhari even though they all know that things have got worse under Buhari

onatisi:
It is so sad Nigerians don't know buhari .

Those of us in the SE/SS know him well. We knew he was going to be a disaster of a president just like he was in his first outing so we stayed clear of him.

While some people are congratulating Buhari for going after those who looted funds in the previous administrations, Nigeria is losing trillions of Naira in capital flight, weak Naira and militant activities due to the bad leadership qualities of the man.

Nwachukwu!! That's how it is done! Shame to Obiano who stood by and couldn't do anything while the muderous Nigerian Army and Police shot and killed unarmed protesters in his state!

chineduemmao:
i wish you knew what caused the nigeria-biafra war.

The average Nigerian youth does not know what caused the civil war. If you ask them, they will say it was because Ojukwu declared Biafra

LRNZH:
The United Nations under its Declaration of Rights of Indigenous People provided citizens of member states with the right to self-determination. This right empowers every citizen to agitate for the separation of his or her region from a recognized or sovereign nation that it belongs to. However, that right is not absolute as it comes with some conditions. One of those conditions is that any region that wants to enforce the provisions of the declaration must be able to prove that it is a victim of continuous persecution and established discrimination by the present state.

Tell me which discrimination the Igbos have peculiarly undergone that is enough to warrant this right of secession. I am waiting.....

First, it important to note that Lord Lugard did not go the United Nations when he was creating Nigeria. He just came to West Africa and forced everyone together and this makes the Union of Nigeria since ethnic nationalties never agreed to it in first place. When it comes to persecution, the Igbos can argue a long train of massacres since the creation of Nigeria such as:

The 1945 Jos riots
The 1953 Kano massacre
The 1966 massacre where 50,000 Igbos were massacred

The civil war that claimed over 3 million lives.

Igbos can argue that they have lost millions of lives because Lord Lugard put them in Nigeria.

When you talk about the right of secession, take Britain for example. Britain are our colonial masters yet the same Britain respected the right of the Scottish people to secede and granted them a referendum. Nigeria should respect the right of any of the indigenous people that were forced into the Union of Nigeria by Lord Lugard to ask for the return of their sovereignty and to exit Nigeria if they so wish

LRNZH:
[b]First, I appreciate your mature response. Thank you.

However, I disagree with you on the difference between Hausa, igbos and Yorubas. There are very few homogenous African countries in terms of tribe and culture (due to colonialism of course). We are not peculiar. The Igbo people are not suffering any peculiar discrimination that other tribes in Nigeria are not facing. If they were they would have clamoured for secession under GEJ. It smacks of hypocrisy that once GEJ lost the 2015 elections, all of a sudden the secession cockroaches came out of the woodwork.

Secondly secession has not conferred any advantage to a single African country. The history is clear for all to see.
None of Eritrea, South Sudan, Namibia are doing better than Ethiopia, Sudan or South Africa where they broke away from. Meanwhile we are enjoying a lot of advantages that we would lose if we splinter. For a big country like Nigeria, we get some advantage from our size. Big economy, big market, stronger military, we can easily be self sufficient in different type of agricultural products, diverse geography, the list is endless.

If the various parts of Nigeria secede today all those advantages will be lost for no other advantage. We have to use our reasoning and remove emotional reactions.

Do you (secessionists) realise that presidential power will still return to the South in the future? And when it does you have set another precedent for the rest of the country to raise up all sorts of storm make the country ungovernable? This game your likes are playing is very short-termist, not thinking about the implications of your actions when power returns to your axis.
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You completely missed the point. There has been a clamour for secession all along. MASSOB was there long before GEJ ever came to power. It does not matter if any of the ethnic nationalities in Nigeria such as Igbos want to secede because Buhari came to power or because it didn't rain in Madagascar yesterday, their right to leave superceeds anything else. Even if your wife or girlfriend decides to end the relationship because she doesn't like colour of your socks, you have no choice in the matter. If Igbios want to go, they have the right to go. When and why is not as important as their right to go. Nigeria is a creation of the White man, none of the indigenous ethnic nationalities ever formaly agreed to be part of it. You talked about advantage of Nigeria being a big nation. Nobody is interested in size when it counts for nothing. Nigeria is a country of 170 million people but has close a 70% porverty rate. Belgium is just about 10 million people but is richer than Nigeria. It is far better to be smaller and more effective than bigger but useless. The secessionist are not interested in the presidency of Nigeria. The presidency has not helped those that have held it before. Ask Yorubas what they gained from OBJ or as Ijaws what they gained from GEJ, nothing. Bottomline is that Nigeria has never worked as a nation and never will and no amount of grandstanding is going to change that. The sooner everone admits it, the better. Oil, water and milk do not mix and if anyone firces a mixture of all three, something nasty will be the end result

LRNZH:
I don't think you understand the history of South Sudan. If there is one country that should deserve independence, it is South Sudan. More than Erithrea, Somaliland, Namibia, Northern Mali, Biafra or Western Sahara.

The South Sudanese had nothing in common with the over 70% Arab population in present day Sudan, hence were heavily marginalized. They got independence 5 years ago, after 20 years of warfare only to be held hostage by power struggle between 2 men. Just 2 Men. President and former VP.

This is my fear for a lot of other African breakaway regions that want independence. In a big country like Nigeria, 2 people cannot hold the entire population to their whims. But if we splinter, then this becomes a reality in Biafra, Oodua Republic, Arewa federation etc.

We should think deep about what we wish for ourselves.

I get where you are coming from. Igbos have no historical connection whatsoever with Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba people but you hear a Yoruba and Hausa man talking about 'one Nigeria' as if that term means anything. When the Igbos declared their independence under the great Ojukwu, those two groups came down to the East to start a war and kill 3 million people because Lord Lugard told them we are one. At the end of the day, freedom and independence is a right, not a privilege. That's why those who agitate for Biafra will always morally better than those who want 'one Nigeria'.

At least they are free. South Sudan is an example to the "one Nigeria or we all die!" Crazies out there that no union is permanent

youngest85:
Obiano 4 president

He must first apologise to the Igbo nation for not speaking against the murder of peaceful Biafran protesters in his own state by the Nigerian Army

Tolexander:
the "professional" responsibility is to put an end to every nuisance being created!

In other words, if he had been waving a Nigerian flag, it wouldn't be nuisance but when he waves the the Biafran flag, it becomes nuisance.

The Saduana who was the political leader of the North clearly stated that Nigeria was to be the personal property of the North. No wonder Nzeogwu took him out, that kind of message might ride well with Yorubas but it doesnt ride well with us Igbos.

Unfortunately, a Sovereign national conference might be very difficult to convene because the outcome is most like not going to be in the interest of the North who don't want anything to change.