₦airaland Forum

AntiWailer:
Your father lied to you.

They surrendered not cease fire.

If it was a cease fire, Biafra will stand after the war. There was no longer Biafra because it was a complete surrender.

And the war was already over as supplies was drastically impaired and hunger was becoming an epidemic in Biafra.

There is no joy in war and misinformation like this is the reason ignorants like Kanu will want to waste plenty lives while they broadcast from UK.

Go back to papa and insist on knowing the truth.


Biafra is dead and cease to exist according to those who bled for it to be a reality.

iPOB are just political jobbers still pained by election loss.

My decent, educated, highly skilled and informed Ibo brothers do denounce Biafra accordingly. Only the misguided miscreants still scream Biafra.

No, you got it wrong. Hardley any Biafran Soldier surrendered their weapon. What General Effiong announced was ceasefire. The terms of the ceasefire was Effiong went to discuss with Obasunjo which was he federal Government shamelessly misconstrued as surrender. Effiong said this in his book "Biafra: My story". Biafra never surrender to Nigeria.

As for this your postulation that Biafra is dead, you are far from the truth. If a referendum is held today in the SS/SE area, over 80% will vote leave because everybody is tired of Nigeria. Nigeria has always represented bondage right from when Lord Lugard created it. Does the Igbo/Yoruba/Hausa man even like each other? So where is the 'one Nigeria' we are talking about? It remains the inalianable right of any of the ethnic nationalties that were forced into the crazy union call Nigeria by the British to opt out if the so wish. If the Igbos want to go, no one has the right to tell them to stay. Nigeria is sham of a country and that's it has never and will never work. No 'forced' union ever works

In actual fact, Nigeria never really defeated Biafra. What General Philip Effiong agreed to was a ceasefire. The Nigerian Government then twisted it to mean surrender. My father is an ex-Biafran soldier and he told me that at the end of the war, there were still over 40,000 active Biafran soldiers and the fighting could have gone on for years on end if they had wanted.

This is the kind of news I like to hear coming out of Igboland.

Ioannes:
I strongly feel like yabbin you tonigh, But I won't.

He cleans up one community, a Fulani man. Tell me if Jonathan made an effort to clean up half community.

The clean up of Ogoni land will take 20years according to experts. PDP spent 16years since 1999.

If they had started in 1999, how many more years will it take to complete the clean up?

That's your assignment for tonight. Don't use calculator. Submit tomorrow morning.

I get where you are coming from. PDP didn't do Ogoni clean up in 16 years but Buhari came in and started it. How outstanding. Buhari inaugurates one project in the entire Niger-Delta after one year in office. At this rate, Buhari might just inaugurate four projects in the entire Nigeria by the end of his tenure.

Wow! So much vision! Buhari is the best thing to happen to Nigerians! I predict that at this pace, we shall be competing with Economic giants like Germany and China after four projects. Oh yeah, we are on the right track and Buhari is the best thing since the invention of electricity

Ioannes:
Ehya... Pele.

Your hatred of the president has truly blinded you.

Go and ask those living with in the potentially hazardous area how much they are grateful that their environment will be reclaimed.

I don't blame you as such after all you've abandoned your own home and are now living in the West or North with your family. So you won't know what's going on there.

Mention one thing Jonathan did for the people in the South south where he hails from. Just one.

Oh I see! Many of the communities in South of Nigeria have been suffering the effects of Oil exploration for 60 years and he flags the clean up of one community and voila! He has done wonders. Mediocrity is a Nigerian problem

Ioannes:
How about his inithating the clean up of Ogoni land

Is that the incredible thing Buhari did? A single project that is yet to be finished? I laugh

HungerBAD:
Obaino is a wise man.

Paying both the Community and the Herdsmen is commendable,and it is only those with hate in their hearts that will see your move as a problem.

Looking forward to the day you will formally decamp to the APC.

Ojukwu is dead,and many things modeled after him died too. Biafra,APGA,the Ikemba Title and many other things went with him.

So Obaino,it is time you embrace the progressive.

Why would Obiano join a party under whose regime things have got much worse than under PDP?

fombadi:
Who's land are the Igbos intending to use for their Biafra,what lands?
If there were tribes,how all of a sudden all the tribes in the south are Igbos,or are you telling me Ijaws,Urhobos,Bini,Itsekiri,Esan etc etc came out of Igbo language?

The thread is about the he 1903 map showing the area that the British identified as Igbo speaking area or Igbo land. Did the area add any Itsekiri, Esan, or Bini to the Igbo speaking area?

codemaniacs:
Delta is not igboland.

I meant were the incident happend, Asaba

I'm still wondering what it is that Buhari did in the Niger-Delta?

Hausas always coming to Igboland to cause problems

fombadi:
Igbos and land. Claiming innocent peoples land,communities,culture etc etc etc.....
we know this only ends on the internet. But when are you guys claiming Iraq and Pakistan?.

If this so called map of 1903 has any credibility,who created this map,was it not same colonial masters?
They joined Southern Nigeria to Northern Nigeria, also In this case they joined Niger Delta to the East.

For your information if Nigeria is ever going to breakup we Niger Deltans will 100% go on our own,
we have nothing in common with Igbo people same way Igbos have nothing in common with Hausas.
Stop adding yourselves to us,Niger Delta rebuke any association with Igbos in Jesus name Amen.
We are a unique people with the right to self determination.

This is a map of 1903 when there was nothing to join. There was no Nigeria, no Niger Delta and no East or West. All there was were tribes. In the event of Nigeria breaking up, who's lands are you going take into the so called Niger-Delta? Is it Ijaw land? Is it Ogoja land? Or is Efik lands? What even connects you to any of these people?

blackpanda:
Whats funny is that u agreed with my post. If my brothers of SE want biafra, it wont be gotten through violent protests. Rather speak through reps in the national assembly and cause a referendum. It is only a referendum that can change the constitution. Till then, the President's first job is to ensure peace and security and quash seccession. Nigeria will never be divided, whether u protest from now till kingdom come

Violent protests? The protests have only turned violent when the Nigerian security agencies start shooting at unarmed protesters. The video are over YouTube of this. You are talking about referedum and constitution. Which referendum and constitution made you a Nigerian? When Scotland agitated for freedom, the first thing the British Government did was to aknowledge their right to be free. Nobody went around shouting 'we must be one Britain!'. It started from there and the modalities for a referendum were discussed and agreed. The same Scotland is currently saying that they will have a second referedum because of the recent British vote to leave the EU. Nobody is shouting 'Britain will never divide!'. These are the very people who made you a Nigerian yet they are proudly and openly talking about their right to secede. But as an African, you are busy giving conditions for a people to leave a country we were all forced into against our will? Laughable. Nigeria may not divide, but I can assure you something, it will never be united and no progress will come from it. No happiness ever comes from holding people against their will.

MyGeneration:
Secondly in the case of Ipob, Niger deltans and other secessionist group;
its quite funny how all this secessionits groups popped up over night during Buhari's tenure, but I have one thing to say even if they had done all this during Jonathan's tenure they wud have still wasted there time as they did just now, Jonathan can't and wouldn't have broken the coutry same as Buhari.
As for the ipob people who have been complaining that the reason for the attack of them by military is out of hate by Buhari then what would the shiite muslims say, any reasonable person who knew what traspired in the shiite massacres would have known that this administration wasn't cut out for rubbish and behaved but they choose to fall a scape goat, my condolences to them but I plead again let go of this Biafra issue lives that have been lost to it is unbearable to Nigeria and Nigeria is not happy about this lives of its citizens been lost, Nigeria doesnt necessarily mean the comments u read on social media but all of us, most comments u see supporting it most of them in real lives are people who cant hurt even a fly.

You are a disgrace for writting this. Who is a Nigerian? A west African that Lord Lugard and the British came to make money off their lands? By calling your self a 'Nigerian', you call your self a slave of Lugard. What were your people called before Lugard came? Was there any historical connection between the Hausa/Yoruba/Igbo man? Lugard has come and now we are one nation and all brothers? This is the mental thinking of an African slave. It is a white man that is telling you what your country is? Can you go to Europe to tell the White man what his country is? The same Britain that shamefuly named you and your ancestors after a common River are the ones holding referendums, leaving the EU, giving Scotland a referendum and defining their destiny. But there you are still shouting 'one Nigeria' with other tribes, half of them you don't even know. When Igbos talk about defining their destiny in Biafra, people like you will come to tell them the stupid name and country that Lord Lugard brought from Europe is the best. When your Government that swore by the contitution to protect lives goes and slaughters hundreds of unarmed IPOB and Shia Muslims, you will congratulate the dictatorial tendencies of that Government. That's why African is still the only poor continent in the world. We still reason like our forefathers who were sold into slavery hundreds of years ago.

And yet after all that development, the Ibadan man will still be looking for the Igbo man to do 'one Nigeria' with.

blackpanda:
See morons everywia!

Biafra is a mirage and dead on arrival. If u really want to break off, violent protests is not the way. The best way is to speak through your leaders. Let them force NA to pass a bill breaking off biafra. But unfortunately, all your leaders prefer to remain in nigeria. Which means biafra is nothing but the idea of criminals, hoodlums and hateful devils.

Which NA did Lugard go to before he made you a Nigerian? A silly British man came to West Africa and bastardised you with the name 'Nigerian' and you have been running with that ever since like you have no right to choose your own name. The funniest part of it is that the same people that call themselves 'Nigerians' are the ones who are watching as their colonial master, Britain, is conducting referendums, leaving the EU, offering Scotland freedom. But as backward Africans, Nigerians are are still shouting 'Biafra is dead', 'Nigerian unity is not negotiable'. Laughing in Igbo

bolaino:
if the Easterners want Biafra, they should leave the East and go to Israel were they claim to come from, and set up shop there, but I know for a Fact that Biafra in Nigeria is a dead issue, dead on arrival. If Ojukwu in all his might and wisdom could not actualize the Biafran dream, and died a Nigerian, it is not Nnamdi Kanu who will soon be hanged for Treason that will achieve what the Great Late Ikemba Of Nnewi could not achieve. Be wise my Ibo people.

And if Nigerians want 'one Nigeria', they should pack their bags and follow Lord Lugard who created them and return wherever he came from. We the indigenous people of West Africa are not the pawns of the British imperialists. All the ethnic nationalities have the right to decide if we want to part of the 'British establishment' called Nigeria or not. That's why we must all support a referendum so that those who want to go can go while those who love Nigeria can continue

balosunky:
stop saying trash Balogun is a yoruba name meaning chief of defense yet u hear ppl from edo,delta even some fulanis bears the name does that mean they are yoruba

But there are Yoruba communities in Edo and even Delta, so what is the surprise there are people with the name Balogun? Even Emmanuel Adebayor is from Togo but he will tell you that his parents are Yoruba, he will never deny his Yoruba ancestry because he is in Togo.

This long write up was not necessary. If Britain that created Nigeria can hold 2 referendums in 2 years, one to allow Scotland to decide if they want to secede from Britain, and another to allow Britain secede from the EU. Then who is Nigeria to deny any of the ethnic nationalities the right of secession?

Oil is what Nigerian unity is about. A lot of people up North will beg as long the free flow of Oil continues. In a way, I don't blame them. If the Governor of Oil rich Delta state can actually complain that the activities of the Avengers is starting to hit his pocket, only God knows how it is hitting the Governor of any state in the North

ATERI:
I`m all for confederation, but tell me how united are the people of your wards before we get to your local governments, then the states. The truth is that, if anyone is going to do well out of confederation, we would know through what is happening in the states today. Who is stopping the South-West from continuing with their free education policy? Lack of political will is the answer. Is Buhari stopping Enugu State governor from putting a welfare package in place for the people of Enugu? Is there anything in the constitution that makes that impossible?
My brother, do you know it`s illegal to conduct a referendum in Germany? Or is Germany also a zoo? After German re-unification billions were pumped into East Germany in order to equalize things. In other words, regions need each other to prosper, that is not going to change under federation or confederation
The South-East does not have any reason to be causing any confusion right now. A politically savvy Igbo would be the most quiet in Nigeria today because everybody knows that it is the turn of Igboland to produce the President of this country. Whatever you want can then be pursued then and you would see the outcome. What is the rationale for creating distractions when you should be concentrating minds on Igbo`s marginalisation? How is the current situation going to boost your chances?
If we have confederation today, opposition party in Igboland would reach out to the centre in their quest for power and as a way of gaining that power in their region, leading to the type of chaos that happened in the South-West during the 1st republic. That can`t be an ideal scenario

You are still living in dreamland. The office of president of Nigeria is a worthless position. What will such a position do for Igbos? What did it do for the Northerners who held it for more than 30 years? Did it help Yorubas when OBJ was there for 8 years? Ask anyone in the Niger-Delta if GEJ's presidency helped them. The office of the president is worthless and every individual who ever had it messed up big time because Nigeria does not work as a nation. It's like giving someone the keys to a messed up car with a bad engine and telling the person that they should be happy to be the driver. Igbos must aspire to be independent and self Governing. We should not be in Nigeria fighting for political positions that never helped anyone. It maybe illegal to conduct a referendum in Germany, but Germans are one tribe, which is totally different from Nigeria. Maybe it is true that we all need each other, but it is not a must we must all be in one country to help each other. We can trade and do so many beneficial things without having be under the banner of 'one Nigeria' which failed a long time ago. One last thing, you talked about what is stoping the Western region from implementing free education like Awolowo did or what is stoping a Governor from introducing welfare packages like Dr Okpara did? Awolowo did that in a time when Nigeria was still a true federation and Awo was in control of Western resources. Now things are reversed, the federal Government control everything and the states have to go every month to beg for monthly allocation.

Chessco:
What shall it profit Nigeria for her president to recover N20billion from one sided fight against corruption but looses more than N100billion from poor economic policies?

We have capable hands that can set our economy aright but Mr. President have failed to use them.

That's the thing. Buhari is disaster as a leader. The Naira has shed untold Billions in value since Buhari came in, Nigeria has lost trillions in revenue since the militants returned to the creeks largely due Buhari's cluelessness, Buhari has plunged the nation into bigger debt with his massive borrowing to finance his budget, capital flight in the millions of Dollars in the one year of Buhari. But despite all this, the only thing the 'Sai zombies' care about is the next big name to be arraigned by EFCC. This is their ultimate sign that Buhari is working. They are watching a Soap Opera while Buhari runs the country into the ground.

ATERI:
Op started well only to devalue the piece towards the end. North may have all those resources, but the fact is that the Niger Delta region has been sustaining Nigeria since the 70s. From 1979 till 1999 Northerners were in total control of Nigeria, and they looted the treasury to such an extent that Nigeria becomes a failed state.

Let me tell Biafrans that none of them can be more intelligent than Ojukwu. What that means is that they need to pursue their reforming ambitions differently. In a democratic system, a referendum is an inferior decision-making process, that is why elections are relied upon. As the Op has pointed out, you never know what secession would give you in the final analysis. There is no evidence to support the view that a nation can only do well by becoming smaller. Granted, Norway and Sweden were one and the same country before ditto Belgium and the Netherlands, but I don`t think their separation was the main reason why they are doing fine today. The unification of East and West Germany has contributed enormously to making Germany the king of Europe. And it was after Hong Kong was added to China that China becomes an economic super power. It`s said that a pessimist would see difficulty in every opportunity and an optimist would see opportunity in every difficulty.The size and population of our country should not be blamed for our backwardness, let`s blame our leaders. Why was South-West region able to provide free education to university level between 1979 and 1983 and South-East couldn`t? Who should one blame for this, the North?
Secession may and may not lead to a better Igboland

Your analysis isn't bad in my view but it misses out on certain salient points. Ojukwu once believed in Nigeria. He believed in it so much that he fought for Nigeria in the Congo. What changed his mind? Nigeria started unraveling as soon as the British left in 1960. Sectional interests took over which culminated in 1966 coup, counter-coup and eventual mass slaughter of Easterners, the declaration of Biafra and the war that followed. We have had 50 years of trials and tribulations to see that Nigeria does not work as a nation. The brief period of prosperity we had 1960-64 was when we were loosely connected under the regional system. Since Gowon dissolved the regions and created States to encourage the unitary system, we have been fighting each other. When people have been fighting themselves for 50 years, a times comes to say enough is enough. What might have saved Nigeria is if it was run under a confederal structure with a very weak centre and powerful federating units just like Ojukwu and Gowon signed in Ghana. Sadly, this does not sit well with the Norths "born to rule" ideology. Therefore, the only rational thing to do is to dismantle this house of Lord Lugard and let the indigenous of the land choose their destiny via a referendum. This talk about ISIS or Boko Haram is story for the beds in the sky. Let everyone go and protect themselves, let everyone institute their on Governments and administer themselves. Nigeria is a failed enterprise and no amount of 'dilly-dallying' will change that fact

It's only natural that the dictatorial regime of Buhari will carry on a programm of persecution of IPOB but it is them that be tired.

Etere Ofe, Etere Ugba, Biafra ga abia!

Tokety7:

Why don't u dig up ur fathers from their grave and asked them if they ever protested or told Lord lugard they they never wanted to be part of the contraption. Ask them to also release all the goodies, gift and benefit they got from the colonial masters also. Oponu, ur fathers were OK with it. Who the Ffuck are u?

Brush up on your Nigerian history. Google the Ekumeku war, Bende war and Arochukwu wars. Maybe you might just realise that we fought Lugard on three fronts so as not to be part of your useless 'one Nigeria'. The same history tells us how you guys fell to pieces and surrendered almost as soon the British got off the boat in West Africa. Since then, you guys have totally surrendered to whoever came after the British, be it Igbo or Hausa. You guys are so weak, there isn't even a link any more.

I will never know how this gworo chewing dullard became president of the largest Black Country.

Buhari is not welcome to Igbo land.

Abagworo:
There was equally no people called Igbos until lumping of Igbo speaking people together as a single ethnic group. This includes also the Yoruba. Usually when such thing is done some people opt out because they think their heritage should not be tampered with. We should just make do with "Igbo bu Igbo" and leave "Igbo abughi Igbo" to their fate.

Don't you actually see the flaw in that argument of yours? A people speak Igbo (or a dialect closely related to Igbo) as their ancestral language and have Igbo surnames. Surely this must tell you these are people who descended from a common ancestry. Our surnames are like DNA handed down by our ancestors. There maybe Ijoid tribes that adopted European names but that is a different matter. So how can someone have the surname Wike ( Nwa-Ike), Wanjoku (Nwanjoku) and Wanny (Nwa-Ani) and there is still any argument about their ancestry? Because they didn't add the 'N'? If Ikwerre like, they can claim to be descendants of the American Red Indians. If Ogba likes, they can claim to be from Soweto. Anyone can make any claim they like and be whatever they want to be but no one should make up stories or lies in the process. Igbo n'abughi Igbo is as stupid as it sounds.

pipeewa:
If Niger deltans refuse Igbo ethnicity so be it. Why not leave them alone? Since when do rich pple look for poor family members to embrace. It's only poor pple dat call rich fellows their family member. Don't know where Ibos are going with all this big brother thing. I am sure they should be able to develop a better country Biafra without the Niger deltans. Fulanis don't want to be called Hausas. The Birom pple in Jos speak Hausa and same time their language but yet they don't claim Hausas. There are so many Yorubas in Benin and edo state and some still don't claim Yoruba. Don't know where we are going with all these and how it all started . Can't we just live together in peace?

There no people called Niger-Deltans. They certainly didn't exist when this map was drawn. So you have to mention what tribe(s) you are talking about.

loopman:
Shut the Fucck up!
You didn't fight anything. You provoked the northerners and they started killing you all, you then ran off to your enclaves and they still chased you down there and killed over 3M of you flatinooos!
Stop bragging about the darkest spot in your history as a tribe.
Nnamdi Kanu will rot in jail like Ojukwu is rotting away in hell
Deal with it fllatiee

Oh we didn't fight? So the Nigerian/Biafran war was a made up story? Ahhh..... They must have told that it was fiction. They lied to you, it was a full fledged war and the Biafran soldiers actually gave a good account of themselves, they killed far more Nigerian Soldiers than the Nigerian did to them. Most of the 3 million were civilians. But don't you see the difference between being brave and being cowardly? As you said, we provoked them and we fought them for 3 years. You guys on the other hand, they came to Illorin, killed your Oba and installed an Emir, you guys did nothing. They moved down to Lagos in the 60's and held you guys ransome in your own land while they ran Nigeria into ground for 30 years. Then they got tired and now moved the capital up north. To thank you guys for all your effort at hosting them while they were in your land, they kidnapped MKO and snuffed the life out of him in detention. They provoked you guys many times but you were to scared to do anything. I would rather be us who did something than you guys that can never do anything except blow hot air and remain docile.

Tokety7:
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Bunkum.
Again follow due process by asking ur representatives to table ur request at the NASS and stop boring me with much stupidity.

Before we do that, you have to go and fetch Lord Lugard and ask when and where we agreed to part of his colonial contraption called Nigeria. You are like someone who is asking that who ever wants to divorce you must go through the legal channel even though you never had a wedding in the first place. Laughable