₦airaland Forum

HardMirror:
lol. na their intelligent contribution be that o

No be today we don dey hear such highly intelligent statements

Kingebukasblog: Diagoras of Melos was the founder of atheism

Science.watch: Krauss, Dawkins and Harris are the high priests of atheism

now we hear atheism has promises

What next?

HardMirror:
oh o! is that the angle you want to take? so where are these promises of atheism you speak about? lol

"Promises of atheism" haha wetin we no go hear for Nairaland?

Godpolymath:
We have lost our identity,it is such a shame.

I know a good education can fix the problem,imagine biology teacher saying the world was created in 7 days!!!

That he's a biology teacher doesn't mean he can't hold the belief in 7day creation, only if he makes that claim during class and shoehorns it into the subject does he deserve criticism

Intelligent people in one field can hold idiotic beliefs in another, infact many people we respect for their intelligence display cluelessness and idiocy in other fields

HardMirror:
there is nothing desirable in heaven. that is why no one wants to die, christians are not looking forward to the rapture. who wants an eternity of boredom and zombiesm

heaven only sounds nice when compared to the “eternal suffering” of hell. In a vacuum, heaven actually sounds pretty bleeping terrible. Of course, I’m dead wrong, because in order for heaven to be terrible it would actually have to exist.........

israelmao:
Though our prayers must be matched with actions for positive results but religion is not what brought hypocrisy it is the heart of man that is desperately wicked,the Bible says,Don't kill ,if you did you have carried out what is in your heart not what God says.

Right after he told the Israelites not to kill, he turned around and commanded them to kill the Canaanites, Amalekites, Midianites, Jericho etc

sarrki:
Spotted

Those people o always talk about

Oga nah curse bring go bring her back

what sort of daft thinking is this?

is curses the only alternative to praying?

was it prayers landed a man on the moon? if no, was it curses that did?

the person you quoted is advocating for empirical and practical solutions to insurgence and not advocating for curses or prayers

Martinez19:
Is he now your husband?

I'm the guy Luvmijeje is talking about, I'm at her cervix

Martinez19:
Have a talk with her, if she doesn't want to say a "yes" break the relationship. Life is too short for someone to do you anyhow.

Did you miss the part where OP said some spiritual Mumbo-Jumbo claimed she's the woman for him? so even if she refuses to say yes for a decade more, OP would be compelled to keep persisting as "Spiritual controls the physical"

This is what happens when one values spirituality, it overrides common sense

luvmijeje:
The guy I'm with now waited for 8 years for me to say yes. If she is truly worth it, please continue to preserve. Good thing is worth waiting for. Pele.

8 years, WTF!

Bayonle should've recognised its sarcasm if he knew who the posters are

HardMirror:
so i am an atheist because of christians or what are you saying? Cant you read? I am not an atheist becos of what christians are. I am an atheist because i decide to think for myself, while you christians have to appeal to authority for everything you believe. So dont come up with bullcrap telling asking me if i am an atheist because christians appeal to authority

Christianity is a textbook example of appeal to an authority called Yahweh, just that the authority being appealed to is imaginary

Christian: Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla

skeptic: How do you know this?

Christian: Yahweh said so in this book containing talking snakes, talking donkeys, virgin birth, dragons etc


Jack Schaap: I'm 55 and I have to marry my 17 year old church member

Skeptic: why?

Jack Schaap: Yahweh told me to do it

princfred:
Have you also learnt enough? It is not a fluke that all 57 islamic countries have anti Christian policies based on fundamentalism while it hard to mention a handful of Christian dominated countries with such. Unless you prefer to be naïve about such glaring facts.

Stop being dishonest or displaying ignorance, those Islamic countries don't have anti Christian policies, they have anti non Islamic policy so any non Muslim would find it tough. reducing it to anti Christian is being dishonest as even Buddhists, Taoists, Atheists (that's even worse) Hinduism etc are also frowned upon. Like I keep saying this is what happens when a particular religion or god idea is used to pass laws

57 Islamic countries filled with fundamentalist Muslims or controlled by them is bound to lead to "theocracy" (I've been wrongly calling it autocracy for sometime now)

PrecisionFx:
""but I am certainly happy he is taking the name of Christ to far away lands that never heard of him""


You are very mad, Samoans have been Christians since the 16th century. As we speak 98% of samoans are Christians.

Lienus Mohammed dem dem

a particular Christian told me people hardly convert to Christianity anymore, what's happening now is that people who are already "Christians" are changing denominations. infact a place like Nigeria is most notorious for this, you'll hardly see Christians going to evangelise in the north (a place overwhelmingly non Christian) but lots of evangelism is done in the south

He said its no longer "Evangelism" but "Snatching", basically, a deeper life member gets snatched from Christ embassy from Winners from redeemed and members move among these churches. a lot of people who visit redeem camp during their programmes belong to another Christian denomination

princfred:
Islam cant be reformed because their founder-Mohammed is the cause and source of their nature unlike Christianity where the killings were an aberration to what Christ preached and lived by. Am trying to point out to you the huge opposite difference between the two and for to stop viewing them as similar.

Whats happening in islamic countries is first doctrines than politics of autocracy. Quite opposite to Christian dominated states even before now .

Doctrines when taken to the extreme by the majority (aka fundamentalism) leads to theocracy

I think I've said enough already

kovah:
says u....If u can kill urself based on ur belief do it quietly in ur cervix... Don't engage me in ur misunderstanding of what right or wrong so I can enjoy myself in my own beliefs

I see you misunderstood my question

CAPSLOCKED:


TAKING ISLAMIC LAW (JUST THE SAME WAY CRK IS BEING FORCED ON STUDENTS) IS VERY NECESSARY.

KUDOS TO THE SCHOOL MANAGEMENT AND WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA.

this is so true, you're to pick one of CRK and IRK when in primary and secondary schools. you can't opt for none. You do assembly and they pray to Jesus from Monday to Thursday then allah only on Fridays. you have no choice than to be there and take part with them and if you're not partaking well enough you'd be flogged or punished through other means by prefects or teachers

princfred:
No, islam is the problem . Its always naturally fundamentalist. All 57 islamic states points to that. How many countries call themselves christian countries as a matter of state rule and impose anti muslim policies ?

I don't know if you're buttressing my point or countering it

Christianity also went through a period of killing who they perceive as outsiders, see: 30 year war amongst other wars fought on religious grounds

Islamic states employ theocratic rule and that's where the problem is, any nation that base their laws on what a particular god wants is always going to cause lots of troubles for people who don't buy into their god idea. If the developed nations adopt theocracy using any religion be it islam/Christianity/ifa worship it would turn bloody quickly too

When Fundamentalists far outweigh the liberals and the modernists it leads inevitably to theocracy and theocracy would leave destructions in its wake no matter the religion involved

I agree islam has its own doctrinal issues but what's happening in Islamic countries goes beyond doctrines

themanderon:
Many of the people here spewing blasphemies against the man of God will surely give account Of their words here someday.

Any proof of this? how do you know he's a man of God?

You are here criticizing a man that doesn't even know you exist.

so we shouldn't criticise any popular person then since they don't know we exist..... don't criticise footballers, don't criticise presidents, governors etc

I am not a rccg member but I am certainly happy he is taking the name of Christ to far away lands that never heard of him. Let God be the judge if he has other motives for doing so not you.

so we should let anybody do anything and get away with it all because they claim to be moG?

kovah:
having a strong belief in something dat outputs frantic opinions dat can lead to just one death is wrong...

Says who? who made you a judge of what makes how a religion is practiced right or wrong?

post=67796913:
Only a fool says in his/her heart THAT there is no God.......

HOLY BIBLE.

A wise person says it out loud!

bezimo:
Which obviously suggest that if Daddy Adeboye is only looking for tithe and money..he should have no business going to Samoa....I am sure the cost of fuelling his private jet to and fro that place is far more than any offering or tithe the poor people of that nation can give him.Which means you should be guided on how you criticise..

No! that's not how this works, that's not how any of these work!!

Poor people are easy to manipulate into parting with their monies in the name of religion than rich countries. The poorer a country is the more religious they become the more they expose themselves to religious brainwashing

Also it could be Adeboye is doing this to give an appearance of not really caring about money just like rich people do once in a while for PR

HigherEd:
Cast out religion from the Government, cast out religion from Law!

It is interesting to note that the people who fought for the separation of state and religion in the USA and in the west generally where fervent Christians. They knew and understood that while Christians should be involved in Politics it was dangerous for the Church to be enmeshed in politics. They also understood that it would be unfair to evolve a Christiano - centric government structure just to accommodate Atheists and people of other faith. Therefore it is not a coincidence that the "most christian" nations of the earth are the most tolerant.

It however seems that the Islamic mind is still very primitive, they evolve every cheapish and shameful behaviour to express dominance over the other. Every where they exist in great numbers they constitute a threat to every one else. From Saudi, Indonesia, Pakistan, Sudan, Egypt their repressive behaviour is well known to all.

Fundamentalism is the problem not the religion itself. Fundamentalist Christians in those "Most Christian" nations too are fighting against the liberalism view of others. It just becomes a problem when the fundamentalists far outweigh the liberals/modernists as is the case in Islamic countries and laws are made based on theocratic view. It also begs the question "Who are the true believers? the Fundies or Liberals"

While you claimed those that supported separation of church and state were Christians but you ignored the fact that those that fought against it were also comprised almost entirely of Christians. Look for any issue that divides humans generally and you're bound to find Christians fighting for each side of the divide. Christians were protesting against invasion of Iraq and Christians were also in support. Christians fight against abortion and Christians support it. Christians support Christian communism and Christians also argue against it. Christians fought for slavery and Christians fought for it's abolishment. Christians support Capitalism and Christians support socialism. Even LGBT rights are supported by Christians and argued against by Christians. its almost as if Christians are as human as the heathens too cuz these issues divide humans generally speaking so saying Christians supported separation of church and state is not wrong but its a very biased view stated with an agenda in mind

reducing everything down to the religion itself is not very wise

Pdizzle:
stop acting ignorant. people commit suicide everywhere mostly due to depression. the developed countries just keep records better, we are talking about here where we don't even know how many we are, talkless of knowing how many people commit suicides daily, or you think it's everything you see on nl frontpage?, even decent autopsy na wahala.
we are not morally better than europe, we are not even close. you're talking about the africa where we marry 9year olds, kill humans to sell their parts, embezzle funds and killing millions indirectly due to bad roads and unequipped hospitals, tribalism that is even worse than racism na our hobby. what nonsense moral is that?

Nice rebuttal to vaxx poor point

LordStranac:
lets manage and try he exists..so he is an atheist

He'd be an Autotheist

Christian God is not an atheist, its nonexistent

religion is not faith in God, its faith in what Men says about God so while its presented as faith in God, it's actually faith in men

Men since time immemorial have proven and are still proving to be untrustworthy, I'd take whatever faith they're trying to sell me about God with a pinch of salt till that all powerful God talks directly to me. I'd never put the cart before the horse like they're tying to have me do by telling me to believe something to be true first and evidence would come later. This makes no sense as belief can make one see evidence where there's none at all because a strong enough faith overrides common sense, the mind can be easily deceived especially religions that discourage rigorous testing to prevent falsifiability. Its also hypocritical that people who preach believe first didn't give other faith a chance. I mean they should've believed islam is true first too and check to see if evidence would come, isn't it convenient that the only faith they believed first happened to be the "True Faith"?

Nice one Dalaman!

femiti:

Laughing at your ignorance, you must think tiki taka originated with Johann Cruff and started to exist under Guardiola, right? We've played it long before Johann modernised it and late last decade when Pep ran riot with it

femiti:

Laughing at your ignorance, you must think tiki taka originated with Johann Cruff and started to exist under Guardiola, right? We've played it long before Johann modernised it and Pep ran riot with it

jpmoriarti:
What a laugh! What model do you really want to export to the national team side? Cross-and-nod ?

we play all kinds of football styles. only someone who doesn't watch us would assume all we do is cross and nod, we only cross and nod when the team is defending deep in numbers (a tactic that your Barca golden generation always has no answer to, See: Inter semi finals 2010)

Barca exported their famed tiki-taka to the national side and it won them bucket-load of trophies and accolades. Agree with me that this particular Madrid side, though they are winning, there is nothing special about them. They are not going to define an era. Nobody will say, ' oh, they're playing like Real Madrid' but it is normal to hear teams being compared to the legendary Barcelona side of 2008-2012. They defined an era and became a reference point to how football should be played.

Bullshit! being known for a style doesn't mean you're the originator of the style, even tiki taka was played by Madrid before Barcelona adopted it late last decade. educate yourself. You're the one exposing your ignorance

Yes, you're right nobody would look at a team playing and say they're playing "Madrid style" that's because we aren't defined by a particular tactic but play all kinds of tactic, from slick passing to midfield domination to wing play to cross and nod to counterattack to defensive play to control to outside shots to long balls to ultraattacking and many other tactics also with all kinds of formation and players that are good at multiple roles. since we aren't playing just one style, this era we're dominating won't be remembered for our playstyle but our winning mentality, ability to adapt to the opponent's tactic, ruthlessly punishing opponent's mistakes and shifting between all kinds of tactics in a single game. we can spring surprise on any team and aren't really predictable unlike that Barca time which all a team needed to do was get a goal then park the bus and Barca becomes very useless as all they knew how to do is keep passing the ball around and hope the opponent somehow makes a mistake or ref favours them with wrong calls. Infact it was the lack of a "Plan B" that prevented Barca's golden generation from winning even more trophies while this Madrid has plan A to about K or even more

95% aren't atheists, that's an assertion that has no proof
I think many of them are deists

95% aren't atheists, that's an assertion that has no proof
I think many of them are deists