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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain:
andrewza: you said your arty would shoot a valour with HEAT rounds, there is no HEAT rounds for ARTY why would you want a HEAT round for ARTY in any case. yes you could make one but why? What would a highly focused blasted achieve for a ARTY battry.
in case you dont know, artillery is also nicknamed 'tank k.iller' since world war II battles of american general patton against german general rommel in north africa, artillery began the defeat of great german general rommel's tank battalions in his afrika corp amoured divisions

another ban for HEAT shells, look up page. i think i wont risk it again.

you talk abot a 1940 world war II invention as if it is a big deal, shells are so simple that arms log UN/SIPRI deoes not bother to record them, how many will they count ? countries have millions of shells all over the world, who will log that report ?

a HEAT round landing a valour warship on deck will bore a hole through it any special steel layers/cells protecing the ammunitions magazine/store below deck, that will cause a massive explosion and the ship will sink itself with its own stored exposives magazine. coastal artillery batteries have sunk ships like that, the explosion you get is 100 times the power of the few shells that hit.

i did not use HEAT alone, i mixed it with AP, i noticed the valour frigates steel hull cells were in layers to give more protection.

countries in asia make all kinds of shells including HEAT rounds and they wont come and tell you about it in your bedroom. shells are nothing big deal, they are far below the technology level of missiles.

if you dont know something it does not mean its not there. there are special weapons you dont personally know about, you are not master of world knowledge, are you ?
Christianity EtcRe: Michael Thomas-Sambo Divine Revelation Of Hell by AugustineAgain: 6:34am On Jun 17, 2013
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain:
https://us-cdn.creamermedia.co.za/assets/articles/images/resized/91882_resized_sacrime.jpg

@CraigB, you live in a glass house....don't throw stones. ! watch how you post comments about nigerians who did one wrong thing or the other. See what your south African c.riminal brothers did to an innocent Nigerian diplomat in your country


weblink source :

[size=16pt]http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201305020787.html/[/size]

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain:
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[size=16pt]south africa has NO satellite....final proof [/size]

"The South African National Space Agency (Sansa) says it hopes to start a programme to build South Africa’s next satellite in 2012 following the failure of its satellite code-named Sumbandila in orbit."

weblink source : http://www.africasti.com/technology-news/south-africa-to-replace-faulty-satellite

weblink source is from @Msauza a south african

Msauza: @AgaugustI think the under-mentioned will be a lot explanatory with the estimated set dates from 2014/2015;

http://www.africasti.com/technology-news/south-africa-to-replace-faulty-satellite
@Andrewza, you see that you are a big time F00L and FRAUD ? you continued to lie and deceive us here with claim that south africa has a satellite today, despite all sources proving you a liar, now @Msauza your fellow south african has proved you a big liar

i have said that about 90% your comments lack truth and credibility, that is why you post a lot with zero source to prove, you just post and lie so freely. where were you born ?

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south africa's satellite is 'crashed' grin grin grin
https://www.bobandtom.com/cimages/var/bobandtom/storage/images/repository/photos/satellite-bus-crash/263253-1-eng-US/Satellite-Bus-Crash_photo_medium.jpg
south african satellite looks like that photo, @Andrewza was regularly telling big lies that it functions today grin grin grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:47am On Jun 16, 2013
Msauza: @Agaugust I think the under-mentioned will be a lot explanatory with the estimated set dates from 2014/2015; http://www.africasti.com/technology-news/south-africa-to-replace-faulty-satellite
it is a wish list, launch it first and lets see. if wishes were horses, even beggers will ride grin

2017 is the target date :

"ZA-ARMC1, which would now enter a five-year development phase, was South Africa’s offering to the African Resource Management Constellation (ARMC), Sansa space programme developer Francois Denner said on Thursday-

bdlive december 2012"

http://www.bdlive.co.za/national/science/2012/12/07/new-south-african-satellite-to-focus-on-users-needs

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain:
CraigB: Quote -
"The ARMC agreement, between South Africa, Nigeria, Algeria and Kenya, "binds South Africa to build at least one of the three low-Earth-orbiting satellite in the constellation", said Imraan Saloojee, director of Earth observation at the Department of Science and Technology."

In other words, the aspirant giants wish for SA to build one of three required satellites, while they themselves share the responsibility of building the remaining two with two other countries at least. grin

Even the Nigerian government knows the truth. It has full appreciation of its , shall we say, ...shortcomings grin
nigeria is building its 4th satellite locally at home and as fast as possible. south africa is behind nigeria, thats why we use rainbow nation as yardstick for measuring from the bottom position on nairaland.


"PRESIDENT Goodluck Jonathan has challenged the National Space Council to work out ways to launch a Nigerian made space satellite on a Nigerian made space vehicle from a site within the country in the shortest possible time."

- Tribune newspaper

http://tribune.com.ng/news2013/en/news/item/14152-jonathan-wants-local-launch-of-space-satelite.html


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:33am On Jun 16, 2013
andrewza: And launching a rocket 120km will not be picked up by just about every one in the region. Not to menstion how do you deploy a ballon from a rocket. No we all know that is just another fact you sucked out of your thumb. Only fools will beilve you.
which country beside nigeria will pick any issue with a rocket nigeria launched from her territory into air over the open sea ? Benin or Togo republic ?

who cares whether you believe it or not ? millions of atheist people dont even believe God exists, does that delete God from heaven ?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:25am On Jun 16, 2013
CraigB: "The cost of ZA-ARMC1, including ground stations and other infrastructure, would be R450m — R100m of which the Treasury had already made available, Mr Saloojee said, adding that "there are processes in Treasury and the (department) for more money to be made available"."

Which should take care of the unfortunate argument that the very meagre R400m won't be available. kiss
wow, my post really rattled you grin grin grin quote weblink source for your posts/claims...nigerians are always asked for weblink source.

south africans post mostly fake weblinks or the ones that do not confirm what they claim. mixed up brains from a mixed up society. grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain:
CraigB: Quote -
"The ARMC agreement, between South Africa, Nigeria, Algeria and Kenya, "binds South Africa to build at least one of the three low-Earth-orbiting satellite in the constellation", said Imraan Saloojee, director of Earth observation at the Department of Science and Technology."

In other words, the aspirant giants wish for SA to build one of three required satellites, while they themselves share the responsibility of building the remaining two with two other countries at least. grin

Even the Nigerian government knows the truth. It has full appreciation of its , shall we say, ...shortcomings grin
your intellectual english language comprehension is not too far from zero baseline grin

read your own quote again, these other countries nigeria, algeria, kenya already have satellites today, so south africa is required to build one alone because it is coming from behind to try catch up with the others including kenya !


nigeria is building its 4th satellite locally at home and as fast as possible. south africa is behind nigeria, thats why we use rainbow nation as yardstick for measuring from the bottom position on nairaland.

south africans should be ashamed of the over-rated rainbow nation's space technology backwardness.

nigeria has 3 satellites today, south africa has zero. swallow it
grin grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 11:56pm On Jun 15, 2013
saengine: Google "R400 million South African satellite". I want you to post the source .
if you dont post the source of that south african new satellite that you claim will be ready before 2017 and that the money for it R400 million is available, then your were born king among a forest kingdom of genetic F00LS grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 11:11pm On Jun 15, 2013
CraigB: Of course it is. The country that weighs heavily in the minds of all aspirant giants.
you are illegally and fraudulently editing my original post and changing the content, if you south africans want to play that rough game, i will pay you back in your own coin

original post

Augustine Again: yes, actually south africa is the usual yardstick here for measuring standards from the low bottom rank where she is grin
fraudulently edited post


Augustine Again: yes, actually south africa is the usual yardstick here for measuring standards
@CraigB if you do that fraud with my posts again i will get you banned in 24 hours.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 9:23pm On Jun 15, 2013
saengine: Another lie. The new satellite has a R400 million budget. And target date is before 2017.
show proof of that date... before 2017, and show proof R400 million cash ready. south africa has $40 Billion foreign debt.

Msauza: http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/south-africa-considering-investing-r450-million-in-new-satellite-2012-10-12
that gabbage weblink source you posted above does NOT say satellite launch date or if funds are ready. the project is a wish list. grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain:
CraigB: And that, ladies and gentlemen, says it all. Anyone who has anything to sell to the world will go out and sell it. And anything worth selling will not be hidden behind some supposed veil of secrecy.

The arms industry is a business first and foremost. Actually warring is secondary. Trade comes first. And baby nations consume and buy weapons en masse because they don't understand this. Specs hidden away means one of two things. A) There are no specs B) the specs aren't good enough to sell to anyone. grin
all the noise, advertising, and global marketing of south african Rooivalk helicopter gunship has not sold one single export unit in 20 years !

grin grin grin


your rival Mi-24/35 Hind helicopter gunship you boast against has sold 2,300 units

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 9:08pm On Jun 15, 2013
CraigB: I love how South Africa is the yardstick featuring everywhere. It reveals far more than people are willing to admit. Seems the question is: Are we really better than South Africa though? - The theme of Naai-raland.
But once again, I like it. grin
yes, actually south africa is the usual yardstick here for measuring standards from the low bottom rank where she is grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 9:01pm On Jun 15, 2013
Msauza: In that case if we do not get to see them on internet, we will gladly assume that such weaponry do not exist until we see a proof. I guess it will be very unfair of us in any debate if we start claiming of weapons that do not exist in South Africa.

By the way do you know that SA has two aircraft carriers that have been kept secretly away from the media? If you use internet to proof this you will only be a fool.

"easy typing but difficult to provide a proof"
who said no proof of nigerian made weapons ? i said we get newspaper briefs about the weapons but no details of technical specifications like range, speed, armaments calibre, electronics, etc, no information to public, abi you no go school to judge your left hand from your right ? grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 8:14pm On Jun 15, 2013
saengine: Another lie. The new satellite has a R400 million budget. And target date is before 2017.
quote source, at least south africa never classifies any of its technology or military basic information about weapons. show us reliable source....i am waiting
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain:
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[size=16pt]only a born F00L will be looking for full details of nigerian military equipments on internet[/size]


nigeria is not a noise maker like south africa that will post full details of every equipment they have on internet for the whole public even before they start developing it, the whole world has details. nigeria is not different, or can you south africans find details of nigerian made amebo drone, bomb detonator robot, remote control land drone in mali war, and this new high-tech spy balloon ? anybody with just ordinary basic data on these nigerian made equipment ? nobody !


since year 2012, till today nobody in the whole public population has any simple detail about nigerian made new Igirigi APC. compare to south african Ratel, Rooivalk, or Badger....all the details are posted on internet for the whole world to read and analyse, even Seleka rebels can read it.

[img]http://beegeagle.files./2013/03/559829_533512746672629_191321013_n.jpg[/img]




nigerian F-7 jet has a radar and BRV capability no matter how small, but details of the range and type are not disclosed by the air force till today nad nigerian F-7 jets in custom built for nigeria alone according to our required specifications, no other country flies F-7NI versions, only nigeria. details of its limited but potent radar/BVR capabilities have not been disclosed to public since 2008 five years ago, sure its classified. nigeria payed more than the standard price for its F-7 jets, a little above Bangladesh F-7 jets which have BVR, HUD, air to air and air to groung search/targeting radars and engage more than one target simultaneousely
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 8:05pm On Jun 15, 2013
saengine: The reason he cant give you proof of Nigeria using a 120km range rocket to launch the balloon is simply because he made that information up, simple as that. He literally sat there and told a lie. You don't need a rocket to get that high up into the atmosphere. Look at the guy who jumped from space last year,he never used a rocket to get there. He also can't justify rockets being used because he doesn't know the size and weight of the payload.
my belief is nigeria used a rocket to launch the spy balloon for reason of rapidity as some companies do with their 120km aerostats, the army never disclosed how they launched it as usual top secret nigerian military information details is classified almost everytime.

niegria is not a noise maket like south africa that will post full details of every equipment they have on internet for the whole public even before they start developing it, the whole world has details. nigeria is not different, or can you south africans find details of nigerian made amebo drone, bomb detonator robot, remote control land drone in mali war, and this new high-tech spy balloon ? anybody with just ordinary basic data on these nigerian made equipment ? nobody !


nigeria launched and is still test firing missiles/rockets at Epe research center in lagos, i posted that details since April and you were not online that day. @andrewza saw it and got tired of seeing it, yet he is pretending he did not see it 3 times when i posted again in may last month.

for you @saengine, may y_our low calibre intellect continue to transmit genetically from generation to generation.


nigeria testing locally made long-range rockets/missiles at epe town on lagos sea coast

@Spirit says:
July 22, 2012 at 5:09 am
@Henry,
Your country has been “secretly” building and testing long range rockets (missiles?) in Epe, Lagos state. I know guys living in the area that claim they sometimes see the missiles soaring into the night skies even before the MOD made it public some 3 years ago. I thought the projects has been scrapped until the minister mentioned it last month.

http://beegeagle./2012/07/21/nigeria-success-story-in-defence-industry/

quote from :

Dr. Robert Ajaiyi Boroffice granted, before separating officially from the National Space Research and Development Agency (NASRDA)— where he served as Director-General and Chief Executive Officer for eight years

"I once wrote a story in The Sunday Guardian about NASRDA’s testing of experimental rockets at Epe, Lagos State…That caused quite an up-roar, globally!

Yes. So you can see what I mean! (Laughing) It’s a very sensitive issue.

So, where does the space programme go from here?

We are at a very critical stage of the space programme in Nigeria. NASRDA is putting one of the most important infrastructures on ground."

weblink source

http://ihuanedo.ning.com/group/betterlivingofedolitesandnigerians/forum/topics/nigeria-space-agency-at-the-crossroads


https://blog.heritage.org/wp-content/uploads/missile-test121025.jpg
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 7:54pm On Jun 15, 2013
Donian007: Look youngman that info about the rocket launch is CLASSIFIED.
yes, the full details are not disclosed, i posted the little information i could gather last from april to may, @saengine was not online that day, @andrewza saw it but now he pretends he did not see it.

nigeria testing locally made long-range rockets/missiles at epe town on lagos sea coast

@Spirit says:
July 22, 2012 at 5:09 am
@Henry,
Your country has been “secretly” building and testing long range rockets (missiles?) in Epe, Lagos state. I know guys living in the area that claim they sometimes see the missiles soaring into the night skies even before the MOD made it public some 3 years ago. I thought the projects has been scrapped until the minister mentioned it last month.

http://beegeagle./2012/07/21/nigeria-success-story-in-defence-industry/

quote from :

Dr. Robert Ajaiyi Boroffice granted, before separating officially from the National Space Research and Development Agency (NASRDA)— where he served as Director-General and Chief Executive Officer for eight years

"I once wrote a story in The Sunday Guardian about NASRDA’s testing of experimental rockets at Epe, Lagos State…That caused quite an up-roar, globally!

Yes. So you can see what I mean! (Laughing) It’s a very sensitive issue.

So, where does the space programme go from here?

We are at a very critical stage of the space programme in Nigeria. NASRDA is putting one of the most important infrastructures on ground."

weblink source

http://ihuanedo.ning.com/group/betterlivingofedolitesandnigerians/forum/topics/nigeria-space-agency-at-the-crossroads


https://blog.heritage.org/wp-content/uploads/missile-test121025.jpg
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:52pm On Jun 15, 2013
zaandrew: it means they have chosen a side why would china choose nigeria over SA
china will sell the same type of weapon to both sides if they see money. china is not ally with any country except their communist brother north korea.

i cant keep on posting, i stayed awake since 10pm last night, now 3am in my world. i need to sleep.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:49pm On Jun 15, 2013
zaandrew: posted a link then showing a arty heat round or any 155mm heat round.
i can give you links, but my own personal file, not again. try this link, it has less details than my private file.

http://cyberpunk.asia/veh_weapons.php?cat=3&lng=us
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:48pm On Jun 15, 2013
zaandrew: china selling you long range anti ship missiles during a sa blockade is them intervening
show me source of international laws of war or UN charter that says selling arms to a country, especially a self-defence missile to sink hostile enemy warships attacking its coast/territorial waters, is an intervention.

arms sale embargo will more likely be on the aggressor and that will be south africa that is invading with naval blockade.

china will sell arms to anybody who wants to buy, they want money, not friendship.

you dream of stopping arms sales to a country that has defence pact with ukraine, india, pakistan ? those countries have or produce long range guided missiles. nigeria signed those defence pacts not for fun, we may need it one day, especially for weapons we dont have today but emergency need comes in tomorrow. wisdom, that is wisdom.

you like to fight war by looking only in one direction, then you get a shocker from the other direction you did not look.

try read war history. i always read it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:41pm On Jun 15, 2013
zaandrew: But for indirect fire. you do know a tank and artillery are different.
dont get me banned again on high expolosive ammunition, it is a censored topic on nairaland, i dont want to get banned again today.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:37pm On Jun 15, 2013
zaandrew: that is not according to NN and NAF wish list, so please.
i said as at now, i did not say future. who will a nigerian submarine pursue today ? cameroon ?

south african project Biro is a big wish list, you cannot even maintain the 12 Gripen jets you put in freezer ice cold for the next 10 years long term storage.

south africa has not even raised money to build one satellite, target date is far away 2017. south africa is a debtor nation owes europe/etc $40 Billion

anyway south african politicians were bribed with $3.6 million by Gripen manufacturer SAAB to waste money and buy what you dont need. who is the threat ? Mugabe ?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:34pm On Jun 15, 2013
zaandrew: how is the hind better remember there are people in SA who have flown both aircraft.
You failed to achieve that goal and sa has way more than 8 gripens. Their ability are not known all we know is that they are OPVs. SAN has no need for anything along that role.
for your info, HEAT artillery rounds are nothing special for privileged few, many countries have it. basic HEAT shells have been available since world war II 74 years ago, try learn some war history, i am tired of teaching you like a fresh navy recruit !
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:31pm On Jun 15, 2013
zaandrew: SAN has no need for anything along that role.
nigeria too has no need of submarines or Gripen jets as at now. no such threat. period
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:28pm On Jun 15, 2013
kwame tut: SA construction firms/Architects/Engineers etc.. could play a role in India, new consul general avers/construction boom. WE HAVE THE BEST IN THE WORLD IN THE CONSTRUTION FIELD.
y_ou are surley one of Ghana's few economic refugees given asylum in south africa, ended up in a P_sycho hospital near cape town, granted access to a second hand laptop on humanitarian grounds. grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:24pm On Jun 15, 2013
zaandrew: no you a fool who does not know when he has lost
you are a F00L who wants change battle plan after you are already R.I.P.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:22pm On Jun 15, 2013
zaandrew: you the one that is claiming that nigeria has achieved a major leap in tech, 120km high i bloody high so show your proof or is this like your t-craft truth aka a lie
only a F00LISH mind cannot calculate what it takes for nigerian army to launch a heavy platform into 84km altitude with a home built projectile, i wont reply a F00L'S request to show all nigerian domestic weapons development tech details, nobody will ever find them, nigeria is not a boasting noisemaker like south africa that posts all details of DENEL weapons and gets defeated by Seleka farmer boy rebels.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201305090894.html

small boys now teach new war lessond to south african coward soldiers

https://cdn.24.co.za/files/Cms/General/d/2352/97c825cb60f046f4b328b9dc0853f33e.jpg

https://cdn.24.co.za/files/Cms/General/d/523/e2b4a291630c40fd8a1623dfca55f519.jpg
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:09pm On Jun 15, 2013
zaandrew: show proof they built a 120km range rocket.
show proof they did not, vultures fly and carried the spy balloon into space ? you F00L.

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/news/army-devises-new-balloons-to-tackle-insecurity/

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 12:06pm On Jun 15, 2013
zaandrew: in a number of areas egypt is a lot better but they do get 5 billion dollars worth of military aid from the USA. Nonetheless they are no threat since they need to worry about israel

what does ethyipa or algeria have on us that is of concern
many of your comments/posts are always F00LISH. egypt or algeria will defeat south africa in war. so padlock y.our mouth
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 11:47am On Jun 15, 2013
zaandrew: show proof of all of that, what 120km range rocket no but only a few countries use high tech arty rounds and even less make them.
how did nigerian army launch the locally made spy balloons 84km into outer space ? birds carried it ? you big time F00L

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