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zaandrew: you are a account so don't lecture me fool

y_ou are a soldier defeated by a civilian F00L

Msauza: Does Nigeria also have Submarines, stealth warships, better Gunships, forth generation fighters, etc? Communication Satellites do not help anyone to fight, they are only good at making recce missions, other than that they cannot kill the enermy. I have watched many of your comments and are mostly about Nigeria will buy this and that "bla bla bla".

nigeria currently has MI-35 hind and is a better battle tested world approved gunship than south african Rooivalk that nobody else wants to buy except you alone.

nigeria currently has Roland and TYype 90 air defences and will shoot down south africa's tiny force of only 6 to 8 Gripen jets.

nigeria currently has 2 modern guided missile stealth warships with anti-submarine capabilities, not waiting to buy, but already bought and almost finished at shipyard to arrive next year, clear world news well published. 2 more to make 4, are paid for and your country's defenceweb south africa posted the news.

in a coastal area navy combat nigeria has 40 stealth fast attack vessels already in service today, but south africa has zero.

every country has its time of major weapons purchase, south africa had cheetah jets before Gripen, right ? yes.

poor spy and recce is a major weakpoint of south african miliatry, it means they never see beyond their immediate area, that is why Seleka rebels was face to face with south african army before your soldiers knew it !

south african military is NOT better than nigerian military in any way. each acquired weapons that it needs based on the type of threat they face. period.

zaandrew: And did i say it was better, it does not have has good radar but there is a purpose built EW dakota(i think it was 2 or 3 i forgot but any of them could get the upgrade) that nigeria has nothing comparable

you lie big time, nigerian ATR-42 Surveyor is a NATO standard EW aircraft, and never compare southa african 1950 generation Dakota aircraft too old that one crashed recently. go tell tales of F00LISH Dakota vs ATR-42 comparison to a 3 years old kid, not me.

zaandrew: No i would not bother to change the guns out of the vallour, the frigates would not ever go more than 50 to 40 km from your coast, i was just pointing out that if nigeria wants to to buy and add new things on a whim because it suits them SA can do the same thing.

Since when did 2 become 4 and they OPVs that what the order is for.

very max range it can get is only 30km and that is using rocket asset rounds you have not shown to have any of these rounds so the best you can hope for is 24km.

Why would china choose Nigeria over SA show me why they would give a hoot about nigeria.

you just got me banned again trying to answer your ignorant question about HEAT artillery shells, i posted a long data base file from my private e-library on all types of explosives for artillery and nairaland administrator banned me for posting information about bomb making and high explosives ! your fault.

i have to be careful answering some unnecessary questions you ask instead of you to do your own research you will be asking me to post and re-post what i posted before or what you can google yourself and spend your own time to find.

a few things i will answer before you get me banned again.


now because i reminded you that you are 5,000km away from home base and that you originally came with 76mm guns, you cancel the idea of changing ships guns to 155mm. continue to change goal post in one single football game

i wont listen to your story about 40km-50km ships away from nigerian coast. you think i am a F00L ? south african navy did not stay back 50km when you simulated originally, now because nigerian palmaria artillery range is 40km max you change and remove goal poast again after i gave you information

its too late man, too late, in real war soldiers dont do resurrection back to life after their ship is sunk to sea bottom and get a second chance to form a new combat strategy.

i sank aall south african navy warships with artillery first time they entered nigerian territorial waters with their overconfidence, i used a surprise method of counter attack

game over. you already R.I.P.

no matter what new missile south africa buys, nigeria is defending at home on land and has 100 times more capacity to throw missiles at south africas only 4 warships already 5,000km away from cape town and with no single satellite, even @msauza the chief liar among you south africans has not dared to challenge me when i said it to him this morning that south africa has no satellite, i mean no satellite.

stop wasting my precious time on that issue and fact, i am not a F00L.

new nigerian stealth warships are 4, two china, two india. your south african defenceweb website published both news. google it.

nigeria dont need to buy rocket assisted rounds, we build a rocket that has range 120km and launched a spy hardware into space this year, so what is an extra 10km range rocket to be looked for all over the world ? nothing hard. arms trade logs do not record unguided rockets sales, no record counted nigerian MLRS ammo. you dont have access to inspect nigerian armoury.

china, i never said china will intervene, i just showed you the FOOLISHNESS of your naval blockade that keeps running your ships away from nigerian artillery into international waters, there is wisdom in war if you dont know, ask saddam of iraq, do war, but dont turn other countries economy upside down.

22km is nigerian territory, if you play games of blockade 40km away you will stop commercial trade shipping routes crossing from europe/america along west africa to central africa and from asia along central africa to west africa.

your military rank is below a sergeant and you will never understang that aspect of war. you only think at tactical level, you never think of strategic level. that is a F00LISH war to fight war and get into big trouble not planned for.


i dont wat to waste my time on this naval blockade again, i have said enough, let the other people judge us.

meanwhile, tell the bat bling south african military to go get satellite and stop fighting war like a roadside begger with no eyes.

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DictatorZAR: Now answer me this you Foolish boy can Nigerian Alpha relics fly without German upgrading

has south africa upgraded its air force 1950 generation Dakota Relic of a maritime patrol aircraft to perform like nigerian air force 2010 ATR-42 Surveyor maritime patrol aircraft ?

saengine: We've told you this over and over again. Rooivalk engines can be replaced by engines produced in South Africa if need be. You ignore the answer, then ask the same question later on. I dont get it.

are you the one that will personally change the engine ? na you be them aeronautic engineer ? you like to dream while awake, maybe you even sleep walk.

DictatorZAR: Now you continuesly being foolish here.

even Nigeria's 109 helicopters were made in South Africa.

Now answer me this you Foolish boy can Nigerian Alpha relics fly without German upgrading, and while you at it can you bring one of Nigeria's Mi-28/35's up against a Rooivalk in one on one air to air fight.

nigerian Augusta 109 are not a south african product, they are 100% Italian helicopters assembled in the Italian company's branch factory in south africa, just like American Ford motors has factory branch to assemble cars in south africa and that does not make Ford a south african product. stop stealing other countries glory and giving it to south africa. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agusta

the augusta helicopters assembled in south africa also have a big problem both nigeria and south africa have been crashing and dying inside the c.ursed thing south africa assembled and the soweto d_emons follow it every where.

air to air combat Russian made Mi-35 Hind vs South African made Rooivalk, the battle tested Russian Mi-35 Hind which nigerian air force flies will win the head to head combat as a battle tested and world class helicopter gunship.

Rooivalk is a bogus untested south african helicopter gunship that no single country has purchased since almost 20 years a go, and you are boasting about it here ? nobody wants it except south africa, if it is as good as you say, one or two countries will buy your burdensome white elephant you call Rooivalk.

every country manufactures what it needs most at home and buys the rest from outside, nigeria manufactured at home a land drone unmanned surface vehicle, a land based anti-bomb remote control robot, high-tech space spy balloon, etc but south africa did not do such things. not only you makes modern weapons, so keep quiet now my boy.

now let @fighter pilot give us weblink to prove that south africa has manufactured a jet engine air craft by itself .

see the soweto assembled Augusta 109 helicopter you boast about kissing the ground and its south african airforce pilots R.I.P.

Fighter Pilot: With honour sir http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_High_Performance_Reconnaissance_Light_Aircraft.

which honour sir ? your fake weblink above cannot be opened, it does not exist. south africa nhas not built any jet engined aircraft, even your DENEL Rooivalk helicopter gunship you have been boasting of since page 1 of this thread, is flying with an imported engine built in France....south africa only welded metals together to build the helicopter body and electronics.

will your helicopter fly without the engine made in France and sold to you ? please manufacture another lie sir, this one is a penalty shot played over the bar, no goal

Thiza: PROUDLY SOUTH AFRICAN

why dont you talk to people here bros ? any reason ? try to exchange ideas and discuss freely with other gentlemen her on this topic mr THIZA. thanks

andrewza: It noth against what countries could and could not do. We are comparing them has they stand now. Right now SA spends 1.2% to 1.5% of the GDP on defense(one of the lowest in levels in africa yet our budget is only beaten by egypt amercain aid budget). You think it will stay that in a war. But we are comparing them has they stand.

Did you know the valour can replace the 76mm with a G6 155mm tauuret with a auto loader. That it can carry 16 extra VL missiels of any type, be fited with LEO 150 Active protecstion sytem, extra extra extra. Point is for this comparisine I used a block standard valour with only a nother 16 SAMs

So don't do the we can just buy this and that because even then you will loose. There is more capital in SA than nigeria to spend.

dont dance around with funny ideas like a deer on drugs. when your valour warships came to nigerian waters they came with 76mm gun to attack, is it inside the nigerian waters you will be changing their guns to 155mm ? or you will borrow nigerian lagos shipyard/dockyard to refit bigger guns ? you forget that you are waging war 5,000km away from south africa home base ? you drink beer from bucket today again ?

fix 155mm guns on a warship built for 76mm gun recoil and you will k.ill your warships by yourself before nigeria attacks you. dont you know basic science ? Newton's 3rd Law Of Motion in Physics says "action and reaction are equal and opposite" so that 155mm gun will fire shell forward and recoil gun backwards and begin damage to that warship that is carrying the oversized gun beyond manufactures specification limits. even the GV6 Rhino chassis on its own is a victim of heavy recoil of a 155mm gun, that is the problem of heavy guns on a platform and towed artillery escapes the recoil problem.

even my first simulation compared south african navy blockade vs nigerian military counter attack using what we both have already, and south africa will still lose. you were not expecting my attack to come from nigerian army artillery, you own simulation says nigeria will attack south african warships with NNS THUNDER, ARADU, F-7JETS, ALPHA JETS, etc.

i just proved to you that in real war the enemy will surprise like seleka rebels did. the nigerian space satellites and new spy balloons plus too many 15 nigerian coastal radar stations (10 from israel 5 from america ) are far more than enough to locate, track, target and bombard to sink all south african valour warships in a 2 minute shelling surprise attack that they never expected.

50 long range palmaria mobile artillery, 70 Bofors Haubits and 200 D-30 towed artillery are more than enough to sink only 4 warships by firing in rapid 2 minutes 4,000 widely spread out HEAT rounds and high explosive armour piercing shells...no navy will every survive that. coastal based artillery guns are a ship k.iller and feared anti-ship weapon anytime anywhere.

when the valour ships sink, your submarine will be recalled back home to defend south africa against nigerian counter attack because the best south african warships are sunk to sea bottom....except the admirals in pretoria are F00LS then they will not recall those submarines back home. if the admiral is a F00L he can keep the south african submarine that is running out of fuel in nigeria waters waiting until nigerian ATR-42 Surveyor maritime patrol aircraft get fitted with the modern and sophisticated anti-submarine search and d.estroy equipment same as the ATR-72 ASW, and nigeria sinks the south african submarines to sea bottom also, and pretoria has no real naval power anymore ? that is reality of war in real life, you enemy will think, plan, strategize, and react to all your moves.

lastly i will tell you that in reality of life if south african navy blockades nigerian waters before our 4 new stealth guided missile warships arrive from china and china to mount nigerian navy defence fleet against south africa, the next thing nigeria will do is to quickly buy chinese long range anti-ship missiles and sink all those south african warships. if you are the nigerian chief of naval staff, wont you do the same ? think now, and stop being childish. no rich country like nigeria with over $60 Billion cash reserve will sit down and watch itself being pushed around when it can buy cheap 100 chinese anti-ship missiles for just $150 million peanut money.

go sit down men !

please dont disturb me again with this F00LISH adventure of a south african naval blockade of nigeria, it will end in a disaster, and the failure starts with the fact that south africa has NO, i repeat NO single satellite to spy and do recce against nigeria. south african navy will be fighting a wide area ocean war blind as a bat, not able to see beyond the small area where each ships can manage to see, is that how they fight modern day war ? south africa without a satellite today is like a world war II 1940 military in a wide area or distant from homeland war.

no wonder south african army did not see Seleka rebels mobilizing, deploying, and advancing against them untill the rebels were face to face with them in close combat.

now that blind bat eyed south african military wants to mount naval blockade 5,000km away from home against a major african military power like nigeria ? rubbish and heaps of rubbish called an idea !


please come back to debate this issue when south africa may have a functioning satellite in year 2017


Agaugust


nigerian army has 50 of this powerful Palmaria mobile long range artillery guns among its different type of artillery weapons totaling about 1,000


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andrewza: Has uasual when you have no anserw you try any tactics to ignore it. Please anserw the qustion it is now part of a ever growing list of qustion the fools refuse to anserw.

....your growing list of F00LISH questions for which i do not have F00LISH answers.

andrewza: Then who liked the 2 posted I posted give sources of SA satlites and there uses.

....some F00LISH people who wish to deceive you.

andrewza: Don't talk about what nigeria could buy. I could just has easly say SA could by long range ship to shore missiels.

It all so seems non of you seem to under stand what a blockade is. It is just the sytem of blocking access of ships to your harbor. We could do that with mines launched from a sub. They cost about 500 rand to make.

your military training is poor. every nation at war will buy new weapons to counter new threats, quote source the law that says "no country shall buy new weapons during a war". try read war history and learn.

if that your submarine runs out of torpedoes during war, wont south africa buy new topedoes ? nigeria built up a whole combat air force of 54 jet fighters and jet bombers during B.iafra war when the new threat came because B.iafra was attacking nigeria with weapons nigeria does not have....combat aircraft B-26 Bomber, then nigeria in the war time purchased very many Mig-17 jet fighters to counter the new threat.

as at now nigeria has not yet bought some types of weapons because there is no such threat and we dont need them now. when the need arises nigeria will buy and use any type of weapon we need. that is how most wise military in the world plan today and execute tomorrow if there is need. why has south african navy not bought 300 new and modern fast attack coastal gunboats like nigerian navy ? you said you dont need it.

south africa has only 4 good warships, and it take one day to sink them, but many years to replace them with new.
nigeria can buy 100 cheap chinese long range anti-ship missiles in few weeks against only 4 south african warships, no navy admiral will stay and be hit with 100 missiles in one hour, he will either run or he will R.I.P.

lay mines in nigerian sea, for nigerian navy minesweepers ships to sweep away like a housewife cleaning her kitchen floor. south african waters can be counter-mined too. i say be smart, nobody in war has monopoly of hitting without being hit back. you also forget that you are mounting a naval blockade 5,000km away from your home base. seleka is your teacher.

that is the reality of life, face facts and dont keep on thinking about what south african military can do to an enemy without thinking of what the enemy will do in retaliation against south africa. seleka's shocking attack and victory should have taught you a big lesson of life, i hope.

that south african naval blockade 5,000km away from her homeland is doomed to fail, and it will provoke a counter attack from nigeria, and pretoria/soweto/johannesburg will not recover for very many years.


Agaugust


photo of one of the many B.iafran air force combat aircrafts in the 1967 war against nigeria

andrewza: I posted 2 seprated sources.

1 showing how a SA satlite took pics of japan after the 2011 earthquake and another detaling the use by SANDF in CAR. Not my fault you blind to the truth.

you posted 2 out-dated sources, south africa's satellite expired in september 2012 and is now a useless piece of metal junk roaming about in space like a lost hunting dog !

weblink source for current year 2013 not old year 2011 :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SumbandilaSat

stop telling lies in the face of open evidence and proof that you are lying, dont they teach you about honesty and integrity in south africa ? morals make a great nation, not only money !

andrewza: You do know SA operats satlites and the SANDF makes use of them from time to time. So nigeria is not alone.

your countrymen like @saengine and @defenceweb have not told the above lie and falsehood, because they want to avoid public embarrassment. try copy them, be wise.

andrewza: Since when is it real time. And satlites have used GPS for years now.

sorry sir, but you are not educated enough or intelligent enough to re-write the change the facts of science to suit your own private opinion. please go back to school, its never too late. thanks

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Tumisang: Naaigerians are so "mighty" and "great" yet a day never goes by without one of their own creating a thread about SA. Why the need to always compare yourself with the one you consider to not be on your level?? ??

its actually the other way round, the lizard nation of pretoria comparing herself with the crocodile nation of abuja, both are reptiles, but different category.

music : me and you no dey for the same category (2x), no be same category oh.....fela kuti

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watching nigeria's near coast and far distant ocean, nigerian satellite NigeriaSat-2 gives real-time information of enemy movements to the military for combat operations against all enemy forces in real-time accuracy.

QUOTE :

"A redundant pair of SGR-10 (Space GPS Receiver-10) is used providing real-time PVT (Position, Velocity, Time) data.

WEB LINK SOURCE

(paragraph of fig 5): https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/n/nigeriasat-2


nigeria can use land based artillery, or simply buy some cheap land based radar/GPS satellite guided YJ-82 or YJ-12 anti-ship missiles with long range up to 500km in a few weeks from China, and launch them from nigerian coast land to sink all enemy warships to sea bottom.

no naval blockade of nigerian ocean waters can succeed, it will be the end of that invading navy for ever.

.Agaugust

China's new export....land based anti-ship missile with long range 500km

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andrewza: You do know SA operats satlites and the SANDF makes use of them from time to time. So nigeria is not alone.

show us weblink source to prove that south africa has satellites functioning today for use by its military.


i begin to pity y_our w_ife...how does she cope with y_ou ? or both of y_ou think and tell open lies the same craaaaazy way ?

south africa does not hide its equipment, even before you get any technology its photo is already available for all to see on internet. the satellite you want to launch in 2017 is already detailed on internet even before you source the money. south africa likes to talk more than her mouth can produce words. in that country, words speak louder than action.

south africa has no satellite today, or you show us a weblink source as proof with current date year 2013.

andrewza: Since when is it real time. And satlites have used GPS for years now.

y_ou have an unknown thinking p_roblem that south african doctors are not able to diagnose, try a natural cure herbalist

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[size=16pt]nigerian satellite NigeriaSat-2 gives real-time information of enemy movements on earth[/size]

QUOTE :

"A redundant pair of SGR-10 (Space GPS Receiver-10) is used providing real-time PVT (Position, Velocity, Time) data.

Each receiver has two antennas ensuring excellent coverage of the GPS constellation throughout the orbit and across the wide range of slew angles that NigeriaSat-2 allows. A recursive orbit estimator runs on the OBC that uses the GPS PVT data to maintain up-to-date estimates of the orbit ephemeris. This allows NigeriaSat-2 to accurately project forward its own trajectory and make timing and attitude corrections prior to image capture to ensure accurate targeting."

WEB LINK SOURCE

(paragraph of fig 5): https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/n/nigeriasat-2

Below is the image of an american airport captured by nigerian new generation high resolution satellite. Any warship attempting naval blockade of nigerian ocean waters will be seen, targeted, bombarded in real time and sunk to sea bottom by nigerian military.

nigeria can use land based artillery, or simply buy some land based radar/GPS satellite guided YJ-82 or YJ-12 anti-ship missiles with long range up to 500km in a few weeks from China, and launch them from nigerian coast land to sink all enemy warships to sea bottom.

no naval blockade of nigerian ocean waters can succeed, it will be the end of that invading navy for ever.

Image of the American Salt Lake City Airport at 2.5 m resolution captured by NigeriaSat-2 in Sept. 2011 (image credit: NASRDA, SSTL)

.Agaugust

Fighter Pilot: Sir those are not spy satellites, else we would have not known anything about their existence. Spy satellites are launched clandestinely and nobody should know if they are there. those satellites serves the interests of everybody, both civilians and military.

a spy satellite has no fixed definition in english language, but its function is the basis for calling it by that name.
webster dictionary of its old definition calls it a satellite that detects nuclear explosion, that is an out-dated cold war definition about their secret launch or classified existence. wikipedia gave the new modern definition as a satellite that does reconnaissance (finding information about the enemy or an environment), very simple, please dont come and complicate it. google is your friend.

any satellite that has capability to see things without being noticed, is a spy satellite by function, by default.

**DSTV movie entertainment satellite is NOT included.

**Nigerian multi-purpose satellites watching B.oko H.aaram and Mali Al-Quaeda rebels in war zones and reporting their operations to nigerian army command and control headquaters, are included.

nigerian satellites are multi-purpose. south africa has NO satellite functioning as at today. truth we cannot change until year 2017.

dont give yourself high-blood pressure, nigerian satellites are not peeping into your bathroom !

nigerian military is the only force in all africa that can fight war with the full aid of satellite to see all the secret movements of enemy air, land and sea forces to gain advantage of victory over nigeria's enemy


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NaijaPikinGidi: Braggard!! R100 million is nothing? Well the screenshot below makes you sound silly!! And the link to the news report has such and overflow of clear comments and views by your fellow South Africans detailing so much frustrations at the monumental waste and pain your SANDF managers are causing to taxpayers!! Stop beating your flat chest please!!
http://za.news.yahoo.com/r160m-spent-car-054626855.html

that screenshot is a hot-shot !

DictatorZAR: So bro please!!! Don't be hypocritical, why didn't you express yourself when @Agaugust told us that Nigerian satellites will see Zuma and his 4 wife's doing the nasty from outer space or when your other countryman told me that Zuma should go sleep in his Kruger park.

It seems we from SA should keep quite when our President gets offended while yours should be respected and treated with dignity.

I strongly suggest both sides should refrain from insulting each others Leaders, even though we might have our own predisposed positions on both Leaders.

I did NOT call Zuma a b.astard the way your @fighter pilot called Jonathan a b.astard, I only spoke reality of how Nigerian spy power superiority can penetrate the most secret places in south Africa. I did you a favor by showing your a major weakness in south African military capabilities. You should thank me for helping you see a big hole in your technology level

@Agaugust

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DictatorZAR: So bro please!!! Don't be hypocritical, why didn't you express yourself when @Agaugust told us that Nigerian satellites will see Zuma and his 4 wife's doing the nasty from outer space or when your other countryman told me that Zuma should go sleep in his Kruger park.

It seems we from SA should keep quite when our President gets offended while yours should be respected and treated with dignity.

I strongly suggest both sides should refrain from insulting each others Leaders, even though we might have our own predisposed positions on both Leaders.

I did NOT call Zuma a b.astard the way your @fighter pilot called Jonathan a b.astard, I only spoke reality of how Nigerian spy power superiority can penetrate the most secret places in south Africa. I did you a favor by showing your a major weakness in south African military capabilities. You should thank me for helping you see a big hole in your technology level

@Agaugust

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DictatorZAR: That's why you are crowned africa's kidnapping capital and most ethnically divided country.

You live in a glass house....don't throw stones. ! See what your south African c.riminal brothers did to an innocent Nigerian diplomat in your country

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Henry120: Why is it so difficult for you south africans to read?? Nigeria currently has 6 C-130's in service. We have gone over and over this issue.

South Africans are like a nagging wife long overdue for divorce

Fighter Pilot: Sir a beg in your rotten English. NigSatCom-2 and NigSat X are not military spy satellites. They are also civilian satellites, so what?

....answer my question about what 100 Nigerian military officers are doing everyday permanently working inside the satellite control room of Nigerian space agency....and ask if the Nigerian army combat operations satellite images of Baga and Bama anti-booko gram fire-fight published as evidence and shown to international journalists was a civilian spy assignment like DSTV movie relay into peoples private home Television for entertainment.

I laugh at you so much my teeth almost fall out.

andrewza: Remember how I siad not every peace of info on the SANDF is made public. While let's leave it at this. If it is has good has the chinness shoar radar we will be fine.

They your sytems you do it. Why don't you show us any nigerian EW sytem not made before I was borne.
Has for SA EW sytems NATO countries are useing what we make it is the top of the line sytems.

Because jameing radio comms has is easy. They will not be able to tell the land any thing. O and there is only 2. Eventualy they going to go off line. Push your planes to hard and it may be for some time to.

Explian how it has a radar. There is no menstion of a radar. Non the read above point.

Xplian how it is slow. And then explian how you going to get 1000 sheels by spreading 500 odd guns along your entire coast. Most of them will not be in range.

Show a source where land based arty has bested a modern frigate.

Show me where a F7 radar could pick up siad helcopter skiming at wave hight.

show me proof with source and technical details to prove that south african valour frigate has better ECM than nigerian new israeli coastal ECM systems in all the radar stations and command/control centres, and the ECM of a very modern ATR-42 surveyor.

you always like to assume that only south africa has modern technology to fight a war, then the day you go to war, y_our w_ife will need new h_usband because y_ou wont be back except in a b_ody bag.

you say your helicopter will fly skimming the sea and nigerian F-7 jet radar will not see it ? who told you the F-7 will be flying to the moon ? nigerian TRACON radars, nigerian coastal radars, nigerian ATR-42 aircrafts sea search radars with 330km range will be even too much to find four south african helicopters and communicate their altitude to F-7 pilots in real time.

let me show y_ou why i said the day y_ou go to war y_ou wont come back except in a b_ody bag :

you say your Rooivalk helicopter will skim the sea surface like a lizard, and our F-7 jets will not find it ? now i show you why south african army lost to seleka rebels in battle....the very poor combat knowledge of all south africans. watch this video below and see how jet fighters in real life skim sea surface like helicopters

jets in action video link http://www.military.com/video/aircraft/jet-fighters/top-10-low-pass-jet-flybys/694692646001/

even nigerian F-7 radar will still see south african sea skimming helicopters from above them because interceptor jets radar at 50,000 feet still finds enemy aircraft below it at 20,000 feet lower then swoop/dive down on them like an eagle from the sky on a chicken below, then fire interceptor missiles !

how do you think nigerian new spy tech ballon sees enemy soldiers marching around on the earth from 84km balloon altitude in space in real time and communicate it to nigerian army command/control centre on earth? by consulting a herbalist oracle ? be telling me it has no radar, the nigerian spy tech balloon works like a spy blimp.

example of how and what they do, web link http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/spy-blimp/

nigerian artillery will only concentrate around main shipping areas for oil export, not the whole coast has oil terminal.

south african valour frigate speed is about 25 knots, do maths it is 1km per minute very slow and heavy ships cannot turn like a small speed boat, artillery shells fly 50 times faster at 50km per minute, too fast for the ship to dance and evade at sheep speed of 1km per minute. dont change scientific laws of physics.

as long as south african navy ships dont stop our oil barges exporting crude, you can sit down in the empty open sea and grow grey hairs there until you get tired or nigerian 4 stealth warships arrive from china and india with anti-ship and anti-submarine missiles, and ATR-42 installs ATR-72 anti-submarine equipment, then you will know the difference between a lizard and a crocodile.

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saengine: Do this calculation for us please. A Rooivalk helicopter is 8km off the Nigerian coast, firing missiles with range of 10km on coastal targets. That same helicopter is 14km away from a South African warship protecting it under a 15km Umkhonto suface to air cone. How many kilometers is the South African warship from the Nigerian coast? I'll give you a few days to solve this....I'm in no rush.

You say 10 minutes away. Ten minutes away by what exactly? Swimming?

you got a defeat and so you changed your story again ? you said before that the 4 south african attack helicopters will fly and remain close to the valour warship for protection, now is the new 14km distance close ? you go school for village ?

your daily increasing F00LISHNESS has put the slow 250km/hr speed south african helicopter too far away and at the tail end of the valour warships umkhonto missile surface to air cone protection of only 1km cover remaining, and the Rooivalk be shot down very easily by nigerian F-7 jet with infra-red guided air to air missiles of missile speed 4,000km/hr and missile range over 20km !!!!

nigerian F-7 jet will be over 20km away from the limit of the south african umkhonto missile, very safe beyond your wildest imagination !!!

you see why nigerian education in maths, physics, geography etc is far superior to south african education ? your country is highly over-rated in everything including human brains quality. south africans, i am always your master


d.eadly nigerian F-7 jet air to air missile, higher super speed 4,000km/hr and better range over 20km fired at a 250km speed south african helicopter at close blasting range.....now R.I.P. south african navy !

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nigerian air force PL-9 air to air missiles have very high speed of 4,000km/hr and good range over 20km against enemy aircraft

https://www.ausairpower.net/PLA-AF/PL-9C-AAM-Zhenguan-Studio-1S.jpg



FAILED SOUTH AFRICAN NAVAL BLOCKADE

andrewza: please stope adding point in posted all ready adressed.

the point on radar was menstioned long ago. SA would not find it hard to jam thos radar sites, not to menstion they would be broad casting there locastion to the enemy and are static so a easy target. it sends real time data to the ops room. it is not going to be of use in guideing the guns .

the sytem was built to deal with low intency operastion such has piracy. and if the increase in piracy in the region is a indecator is any thing to go on, it is either not instaled, does not work or the operates dont know how to use it.

show us proof that 4 south africa stealth valour frigates are totally invisible to all the many 12 nigerian radars. stealth warships are visible and 100% tracked by radar 24 hours a day in real-time only that the ships look about 25% their full size and they can be locked on with radar 24 hour daily all their movements will be monitored 100%.

the best and most sophisticated american warship in the world still appears on enemy radar as a small fishing boat and can be monitored and hit as target by enemy gunfire.

"The DDG-1000 and other stealth destroyers of the Zumwalt class feature a wave-piercing hull that leaves almost no wake, electric drive propulsion and advanced sonar and missiles. They are longer and heavier than existing destroyers — but will have half the crew because of automated systems and appear to be little more than a small fishing boat on enemy radar."

weblink source (paragraph 7 of web page) : http://bigstory.ap.org/article/us-navy-hopes-stealth-ship-answers-rising-china

show us technical details of all new israeli made nigerian navy 10 coastal radar stations and their command and control equipments to prove that only south africa can jam nigerian radar but nigeria cannot jam all south african warship radar, show us the technical details to prove that, show us what nigeria has in detail so that everyone on nairaland can pity the p_erson that produced your t_ype of h_uman b_rain after 9 m_onths.

show us weblink sources to prove which scientific technology can jam nigerian air force ATR-42 Surveyor's air to sea television camera and night vision infra-red tracking devises that do real time tracking of all nigerian territorial waters according to janes defence publication on page 108 of this thread/topic. in the world of science, infra-red cannot be jammed by any thing.

nigerian ATR-42 aircrafts radar cannot be jammed because it has its own modern, sophisticated and powerful electronic warefare measures for self protection, enemy electronic warfare detection, analsysis and neutralization, and also to jam enemy ships radars. http://www.deagel.com/AEWandC-ISR-and-EW-Aircraft/ATR-42-Surveyor_a000090003.aspx

nigerian ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft is one of the most modern maritime patrol planes in the world today and is not like its south african rival Dakota maritime aircraft out-dated back to 1950s era.

show us weblink that says ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft of nigeria cannot survey the sea and report GPS co-ordinates of only 4 south african warships to nigerian artillery.

show us weblink source to prove that two ATR-42 aircraft and 10 coast to coast full coverage lagos to calabar based ocean radar stations and command and control centres cannot send real time reports of only 4 south african warships geographical co-ordiantes to nigerian army coast based artillery to bombard the warships correct positions.

show us prove that all nigerian radars are not working.

show us proof that nigerian army new spy high-tech balloons at 84km above the earth with radars and cameras cannot track and report the exact geographical locations of only 5 south african warships accurately to nigerian artillery for fire control and bombardemnt....the balloons can see enemy soldiers walking and moving around on the earth above nigeria.

show us proof that nigerian aircrafts, new modern radar stations, nationa-wide new ultra-modern total radar coverage TRACON of nigeria stations, navy new sophisticated high-tech command and control centers, space satellite ground stations, and all nigerian army artillery command and control centers cannot communicate in real time. my village chief communicates real-time with me from nigeria to america on mobile phone.

show us proof that south african warships heavy and slow speed 1km per minute will turn around like a flying boat and out-maneuver and out-run 1,000 widely spread net of nigerian artillery shells flying 50 times faster at speed of 50km per minute all landing in 1 minute on only 4 enemy ships in ratio 1:250, 1 ship under a spread rainfall of 250 artillery armour piercing shells bombarding it on all five sides front back left right center.

show us source record in war history where any warship survived under rain of 250 armour piercing artillery shells in falling all over it in 1 minute rapid fire bombardment.

show us how south african incompetent Rooivalk helicopter pilots that flew at home in broad daylight crashing into street electricity poles will now fly low level in a foreign land nigeria in darkness of night in an unknown territory without crashing into MTN telecoms masts 300 feet high.

show us how south african 4 slow helicopters with speed 250km/hr armed with anti-tank air to surface missiles fly to air from their warships and use 10km range missiles to his nigerian artillery on ground without being shot down by 10 nigerian airforce F-7 interceptor jets flying at 2,000km/hr firing 20 air to air PL-9 multi-element infra-red homing guided jam-proof missiles from its missile range of over 20km and missile speed of 4,000km/hr against only 4 unprotected slow helicopters with very slow speed of 250km/hr .

you got to be very C.raaaaaaaazy in south africa to enter nigerian airspace with ordinary helicopters.

show us reason to believe you do not have a worse p_roblem than a doctor can handle in a p_sychiatric h_ospital

south african naval blockade of nigeria is a failure. nigerian military is too advanced and modernized.
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