Aivewobhormike:
Please house help me. Don't understand what's going on my account. I submitted my trv application on the 12th of april at Abuja vsf. Linked it to online 17th April. I checked my application today and saw I was refused but no message was attached to it as been the reason. My biometric I did at the vsf when I went to submit my application is still showing this below. House pls help me. Is this an error or refused as I can't see any message attached to it as the reason

Sorry about the outcome of your application. Unfortunately, your application was refused and since you applied through the paper route, be rest assured the letter attached to the decision will be inclusive in the envelop containing your passport. Be patient until your passport is returned. In the meantime, you may want to request for the officer's note on the GCMS(Global case management system). A comprehensive and detailed reason(s) for the refusal will be inferred on it. You will need it to better prepare for a reapplication. Check page 0 of the thread to see how to proceed.

Regards.

goingforward:



Hi @Austinpee4,

Thanks for your response. Someone referred me to also check online just to be double sure and i checked. I came across this link below on CIC website.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/study-permits/guidelines-on-minor-children.html

Below reveals that minors applying from outside Canada should apply for a study permit.

Oops! Good you cross checked on CIC's website. IRCC changes comes even without notice.

Being that your kids are 5 and 6 which clearly means they will have to go to school as soon as they arrive and with the new changes, they will need to apply for the study permit even as accompanying minors. If they were less than 5 years, they would get a visitor's visa being that they are not obligated by law to study below age 5. You would only need to satisfy the officer on how you plan to cater for them while you study.

Well, I hope the process of applying for their study permits would be easy alongside yours. All the best.

Regards.

goingforward:
Hi Nairalanders,

My second time posting this, can someone help with answer this below:


I decided to go the online route.

Please for the online application form for my kids, do I have to choose ''studying'' or choose ''visit.''
My kids will be staying with me.

I noticed that what i chose to study it generates a ''study permit application form.'' My kids are 5 & 6. I am not also sure what to fill in the school name and other details.

My question is do i say they are studying or do I choose ''visit?''

If I choose ''study'' it is asking me questions about their school etc.

Please help. what do i choose and fill?

Can somoene who has filled an online study application for kids advise me, please?


goingforward.

You should choose 'Visit' on the form for them as they will be accompanying you. A visiting visa will be issued to them once your study permit is approved and all conditions for granting their visiting visas will be subject to your student permit and conditions.

Also, you will be able to change the conditions of their visiting visas once you have registered them in school when you arrive. You do not need to choose 'study' as their trip to Canada will be on the basis of your study permit and IRCC has identified this as 'accompanying minor' and if they are not citizens of a country with Visa-exempt to Canada, a visiting visa foil will be issued to enable them accompany you.

IRCC will change the conditions of their 'visiting' visa once you have enrolled them in school to enable them stay longer(on the condition that they MUST be schooling). Good news is that they are both of school age and will be compelled by law to school for free in a federal government or provincial government own schools. This will make things easier once you land.

Regards.

goingforward:


Hello People,

Please help me to understand LICO,

Does it mean that for example as per what you stated, for a family of 5 if the person is applying for SOWP, you must have a , minimum living expenses of $65,377 ?

Please help clarify.

I thought living expenses was as per stated by CIC.

goingforward.

KlausMike:


Which one be lico again? I am looking to apply for my wife in June.

I really do not know why this 'LICO' thing is becoming a thing of worry.

Like i mentioned in my earlier post, LICO(Low income cut-off) is used for individuals who are working(on a work permit, A PR or a Canadian citizen) and seeking to sponsor a spouse, dependant(s), parent(s) or grand parent(s) to move to Canada. It is NOT applicable to a Study permit or the Spouse open work permit. The reason is simple, the student is NOT sponsoring but adding a spouse as a dependant to his/her study permit application to allow the spouse be in Canada during the duration of the study visa.

If you check the figures required for 'LICO', It is strictly for individuals who have full working rights in Canada. Students do not, its part time and in some cases, some are not even eligible to work both on or off campus depending on their circumstance. Also, those figures of 'LICO' must be earned in Canada.

@Jimmychuks2018, what you saw, written or interpreted on your GCMS file most likely is your income in Nigeria to compel your return after your wife's study duration. The officer weighed your ' income level' and was not satisfied that it is strong enough to compel you to return with your wife after her study and that is why it was raised. You are a dependant on your wife as a PA(student) and either you or her need to only show 4,000CAD for you and additional 3,000CAD for a minor as additional funds. You must also statisfy the officer that you would leave alongside your wife. Your ties(income,family,etc)must be strong enough because you are expected to return to them. This is the requirement of IRCC for a study permit holder(your wife) and an applicant of a SOWP(you).

'LICO' requirements are Strictly for SPONSORSHIP. The sponsor must earn the minimum income in Canada to be able to sponsor. Your wife is NOT sponsoring you but adding you to her study conditions even though the SOWP allows the holder to work without time and employers restrictions.



Regards.

Jimmychuks2018:
I stand with Junwa...Nobody would cook account and after the thing cast, the person won't have the liver to come here. The guy did not come back because you guys were already judging/ accusing him!!! If it's me I won't come back. Please you guys should stop judging and accusing people. If you can't answer someone's question better leave it for those that are willing to help. Or better still ignore.

Nobody is judging anybody and nobody will. Some responses and answers given are most times from what has happened in previous times or from a trend and understandably, it cannot be used to base a conclusion at all times.

However, It will interest you to note that a lot of folks only seek help when they have landed themselves into trouble. Rather than telling the full story, a lot would be hidden under the shelve. This thread has seen countless of situations regarding fraudulent or doctored document. The Canadian visa office especially that of Accra will likely not give a procedural fairness correspondence to an applicant if they have not found out something. It is something they have been doing for years now and from both this forum and outside this forum, it is usually true that these individuals engaged in unscrupulous acts as they test the meticulous nature of these officers. Funny enough, some just dive into their hands not knowing similar fraudulent document(s) have been seen in the embassy by these officers from time immemorial.

Also, do not be too affirmative that everybody that comes here to seek help do so with all sincerity, some just want a way out without letting the cat out of the bag. Nobody would own up to something fraudulent at the first instance. When things seems complicated, the truth lies within.
I just needed to point this considering that these things have happened and are not new here. My only advise to people is, if you truly need help, you must make the truth known. I have seen many cases where the embassy soft peddled in their decision on the consequences of a misrepresentation and this often is when the applicant inject element of the truth in the response. The hardly send a procedural fairness letter if they don't find something fishy. It's a waste of time on their part without a strong evidence. The process of a procedural fairness is mandated by their law and has rights for the respondent( applicant). Do you really think an officer would want to give such applicant such advantage if he/she cannot substantiate it? Certainly not!

Regards.

goingforward:


Hi Frankrobbn1,

Sure there are other miscellaneous, however, education is free for kids up till 18years.
I think even at that it would not be up to 20million. ( i am assuming that Oka's kids are not up to 18 yet). I know people who did this and got it without having up to that.

I think that Okka should asides from the stipulated amount from CIC make provision for the following:


Return Ticket for a family of 5 *
Miscellaneous during the study (maybe 5k or 10kCAD)


Use CIC as a guide and add some miscellaneous. ( So that they know that you are taking your family into consideration)

Also is your spouse applying for SOWP or Visit, that again is another consideration. ( if your spouse would be working, then they would be supporting financially, CIC will consider this).

These are just my thoughts.


Goingforward.

I quite agree with you. However, there is a point to note as emboldened. Education for kids of 'School age' in Canada is free. School age here starts from 5 or 6 years old depending on the province or territory and continues till the child is between 16 and 18 years old. Before age 5 and if the child's parent(s) decide to send him/her to school( Creche, kindergarten.etc), they will have to pay for it.The Government of Canada or the provisional government is only responsible for the Child from 5 years old which is the school age required by their law for children to start school.

Regards.

Ratawu:



This is what the CIC will use for your Spousal Work Permit whether you like it or not


READ:
Minimum Necessary Income and Family Class Sponsorships
Last modified on May 14, 2017
Originally posted on March 5, 2017 by Steven Meurrens
Filed under Immigration Trends Tagged 133, LICO, minimum income
One of the requirements to being a sponsor in both the Family Class and the Spouse or Common-Law Partner in Canada Class is that the sponsor must on the day that the application is submitted and until the application is assessed have a minimum necessary income.

For most types of family sponsorships, the income must be equal to the minimum necessary income, which is statutorily defined as being equal to Statistics Canada Low Income Cutoff (“LICO“). The current LICO requirements are as follows:

Size of Family Unit Minimum necessary income
1 person (the sponsor) $24,600
2 persons $30,625
3 persons $37,650
4 persons $45,712
5 persons $51,846
6 persons $58,473
7 persons $65,101
More than 7 persons, for each additional person, add $6,628
For sponsors seeking to sponsor their parents and/or grandparents, the income must be equal to the minimum necessary income plus 30% for each of the three consecutive taxation years immediately preceding the date of filing of the sponsorship application. The current requirements are as follows:

Federal Income Table for Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship
Size of Family Unit Minimum Income
2015 Minimum Income
2014 Minimum Income
2013
2 persons $38,618 $38,272 $37,708
3 persons $47,476 $47,051 $46,354
4 persons $57,642 $57,125 $56,280
5 persons $65,377 $64,791 $63,833
6 persons $73,733 $73,072 $71,991
7 persons $82,091 $81,355 $80,153
If more than 7 persons, for each additional person, add $8,358 $8,271 $8,148
Canadians seeking to sponsor their spouses or common-law partners do not need to have a minimum necessary income.

Excluded from these amounts include, amongst other things, any amounts paid to the sponsor under the Employment Insurance Act, other than special benefits.

Looking Beyond the Notices of Assessment

Visa officers must accept Canada Revenue Agency Notices of Assessment as proof of income when a sponsorship application is filed.

However, the Immigration Appeal Division (the “IAD”) can look beyond the Notice of Assessment. In Motala v. Canada (Citizenship and Immigration), 2012 FC 123, the Federal Court stated that:

Actually, this information is not correct regarding the SOWP funds requirements. These figures as shown are for sponsorship under the "Family class' and the "Canadian class" categories. These kind of sponsorship is completely different from the SOWP.

In the above class, the sponsor must either be a PR, Citizen or have valid work permit to be able to sponsor a 'spouse' ' common law partner' ' Parent' or ' any dependant' with a job and with minimum income as stated in your post above.

The SOWP is completely dependent on a study permit holder(Student). The conditions of the SOWP are also subject to those of the study permit holder. The SOWP requires an additional funds of 4k from the PA( student) in addition to funds required for a study permit application and therefore the PA will not have to work in Canada to show the minimum requirement to be able to to sponsor a spouse as your post noted.

Note also that in a SOWP, the must be strong evidence indicative that both PA and spouse would leave Canada at the end of the study.

Regards.

brainiac007:
Hi.

Please, I'll like to know if I can apply for Express entry into Canada and also pursue academic route i.e. student visa, simultaneously. Thanks

The major reason this is seemingly a risky path to thread is largely because most applicants especially from Nigeria are not able to prove to officers with strong evidence that they would indeed leave Canada at the end of their study even with a PR application. For a study visa, you must satisfy the officer that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay because it is a requirement by their law that you leave as a temporary resident.
If you can really prove to the officer that there is a high chance that you would leave after your study, having simultaneous applicant would not be a problem as it is backed up by the Act establishing the provisions for issuing of both visas as dual intent.

If you can prove this, fine. Each application is reviewed seperately and independently. However, the general advise is to go with one you have a better chance and can satisfy all requirements.

Regards.

xzile:
Good evening house
I appreciate the love in this forum.
Please i am ready for submission but just encountered certain problems. First my sponsor is a business man but he have no tax clearance certificate for his company.
2ndly, he had emergency and traveled out today so it wasn't convenient for him to transfer my living expenses to my account.
PLEASE HOUSE I WANT TO KNOW IF THESE TWO REASONS WILL POSE ANY THREAT, HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PAST SECURED TRV IN THESE CONDITIONS. PLS I NEED ANSWERS CUZ I WILL LIKE TO SUBMIT TOMORROW

What is your mind telling you? An imminent problem?

I guess yes and actually, if you do not meet the requirement of having AVAILABLE your living expense in the tune of 10,000CAD in addition to your tuition, it is a direct path to a refusal for insufficient funds for upkeep. Also, it is important you add evidence and proof of your sponsor's business, income and obligation of such business. It is to show officers that it is genuine and in operation.

Do not be in a hurry to submit your application without showing in evidence convincing documents to increase your chances of an approval especially funds, this is important.

Regards.

butch411:
Hello House..I have been denied twice sometime in 2013 paper route and online..But I got a job and I didn't bother applying again.5years later I intend to go back to school and apply for study permit..please how do I link my old application with my current application so they know I have applied before? Will they create a new UCI number for me ? Or is my old UCI number for the previous online application still valid? Your quick response would appreciated.

Just apply when you are ready and worry less about linking the new application with the old. They already have it and will definitely check through your previous record with them and will still reassign the UCI of previous to the new application. That's their job. Yours is to apply with matching details of the previous.

seglius:

ok, really appreciate for your attention.
pls find attach the denial documents for review and solution. thanks in anticipation.

You shouldn't be posting this because it contains very vital information of your profile with IRCC(Your UCI and application number). Remove the picture or better still you can crop out those information. They are strictly confidentiality and for you only.

Regards.

jnyuwa02:


The evidence points contrary to your claim. Why are people often denied first based on insufficient funds and when that is rebutted, CIC in some cases often denies a second time ticking purpose of visit? Following your argument to its logical conclusion would mandate CIC to deny first on purpose of visit and then when that is rebutted, on a second denial, CIC can tick insufficient funds. I have never seen it following that order. Yes CIC often assesses the length and purpose of a study in reaching how much an applicant is supposed to prove he or she has, but that determination is not a judgement on the merit of a purpose of visit per say. It is a financial determination and purpose of visit and length of study are often ancillary to the claim, not the primary thing a VO is looking at during that time. The merit of a person’s purpose of visit comes later, after the financial healthiness prong is passed. I am working on a GCMS note right now where the VO after determining first and foremeost the financial healthiness of a person’s status to undertake studies in Canada, determined the applicant passed, then explicitly wrote on GCMS notes that the file be passed to another VO for further judgment. The second VO did not asses financial worthiness, the applicant having passed with the first VO. The second VO went on and determined the applicant failed on purpose of visit and didn’t prove he was going to study in good faith.

That said, this is the common pattern I have seen it follow. Financial determination first then purpose of visit, ties etc. But I must put a caveat, CIC is not so easily predicatable and can follow any order it wants. I have also seen financial determination and purpose of visit, ties determined all at the same time. But never the merit of purpose of visit, family ties etc before financial ability to undertake studies in Canada.

There is actually no reasonability to engage in this debate. I guess you have your observation and possible conclusion and i do not intend to change that. With a backdrop from many applications, reviews and GCMS note as well as IRCC's guidelines for officers as to application of the provisions of the act enforcing the issuance of a study permit, i most likely would not be sentimental but factual.
All the same, this issue matter less here especially when all applications are in competent hands, those of the visa officers.

Regards.

Ggetter50:
Hello my people..

Please, for how long could be the validity of the statement of account to be presented for TRV application? How old or recent can it be...


Thanks, I would appreciate a response from anyone.

A month or less prior to submission of your application.

Danteross:
goodmorning, straight the point,
i filled my student permit visa application february 2018, and my biometrics just 5th of april. i want to know if my application will be approved before the 5th of may as to when my classes resumes for summer? even though i'm yet to do my medicals as im adviced not to do it yet until they tell me to do it. please i need clarity on this issue because im kinda confused here as regards the time of my application and the time classes resumes.

You can't know if or when your application would be approved. Not even anybody here. Since you have applied already, you are now at the mercy of the visa officer handling your application. If he/she need to give you further instructions or information about your application, rest assured that you will be reached.

Until then, your best bet is to keep positivism at your beck and call and stay that way till the Visa officer reach you. They are also aware of your resumption date. If it exceeds, they will inform you on the next step if need be.

Frankrobbn1:

jnyuwa02,

Very true, CIC reviews financial establishment/Bank statements first before proceeding to other areas of the applicant application.

Emmmm, On the contrary, It is the other way round. IRCC establishes your purpose of visit FIRST before your financial capacity(ies) and other areas of an application. The purpose of visit(Program,Length and other expenses) would determine the degree of veracity of your financial claims so as to ascertain if it can sustain your purpose of visit.

Purpose of visit can be faulted from a ridiculous thing as a show of desperation which may not be in a proposed program but rather from the overall circumstance(previous and current) of the applicant because it is predicated on the fact that the applicant is expected to establish that he/she "would leave Canada at the end of the authorized stay".
Financial bearing or considerations of officers follows the purpose in which the applicant established in his/her application as reason for travelling to Canada for study.

Regarding the speculation of processing office,

Be it Lagos, Accra, Kenya, Contonu, Korea etc, One thing is certain, once you apply, you have no control over your application again. So save some energy and wait for a response from the visa office processing your application.

It is the same law applied in reaching an outcome and also, the same processing time is applied for Nigerian applicants irrespective of the office processing it.

Secondly, kindly address all letters to the Canadian Visa office in the country you applied from. In Nigeria, use the Lagos visa office address.

@MrniceG

A simple response to your question would be an advise to forget that advanced diploma. It is lower than a degree and you already have one. It is also not going to scale through as an entry qualification for your current occupation as you already have experience in it. Your best bet is a PGD/C with a strong conviction as to why you have chosen it.

Advanced diploma mainly is designed for folks who just completed high school and about to lunch a career path before pursuing a degree and with very little experience or non atal.

Don't dash Accra visa office your application fees. Your application will be REFUSED. If you say you cannot find a PGC/D in Canada for this program, a good question would be, why not somewhere else where you can get a PGC/D or a master degree program in biomedical engineering. Why must it be Canada for a degree lower than one you already have? How competitive would an advanced diploma be for you in Nigeria(having claimed you would return) where many job aspirants and applicants have either a master degree or a degree in your field?. How would you progress in your field after this program with a lower degree amongst others with higher degrees and experiences?

These are some of the reasonable questions that would matter. It will be very evident that you would not leave Canada at the end of your study. Your purpose of visit is likely to be ticked. You must think in a VO's direction.

Regards.

SBG04:
Good day everyone. I'm 30 years old this year and applying for an advanced diploma in a Canadian college. My first question is: is it too late to apply for fall admission in September though application is still open to the college i'm applying to.
Second question is: do I need to do the ielts exam and what's the required permissible score.
Third question is: Does my age in any way hinder my chances in applying to the school or obtaining a TRV as the course I'm applying for is a 6 semester course. Thanks in advance.

Before you even apply for admission, ensure you have good and cogent reasons to give to the visa officer about why you have chosen an advanced diploma(this is below a degree) and why you intend to spend huge funds obtaining it in Canada as against Nigeria. You will also need to explain all you have been doing till date. And yes, in your case, your age may raise a little eyebrow during your study permit application but if you can convince them enough, it MIGHT matter less.

You really need to think this move before you decide. There is a lot about 'purpose of visit' hovering around it already. If you have a very genuine reason for going for this program, then you can proceed otherwise, it will be highly unlikely to convince the officers seated in Accra.

Regards.

micheallouis123:
hello guys am new to this forum and would love to share my ordeal

i submitted my stu trv on the 23rd of febuary and i haven't gotten any mail from them or reply only to track my application yesterday and saw my processed passport has been dispatched from the canada visa office ACCRA on 05/04/2018 to visa application centre abuja,please i feel confused guys,does it mean they can still call me for medicals

Sadly, it appears your application has been refused as medical request is a requirement before issuance of a study permit for applicants from Nigeria with proposed program more than 6 months.

You should await an email from VFS requesting you proceed to their office to collect your document. All the same, once you get the passport, you avail the house with the reason(s) for the refused application.

Regards.

Ratawu:
PLEASE WHAT "CALASTU"

"CA-Canada
LA-Lagos
STU"-Student.

Mostly given as tracking number to online applicants who completed their biometrics in VFS Lagos. This does not however mean your application will be processed in Lagos( can be in Accra or anywhere else)

Notwithstanding, if your application is approved, the Canadian visa office in Lagos will issue and stamp the visa foil on your passport upon request. I believe you applied online.

Phocusjosh:
Hello guys, a friend got this response from MUN; Unfortunately, your application can not be accepted due to limited seats in the M.Eng/PhD programs. However, you may be eligible for the course-based MASc programs. Please review program information at http://www.mun.ca/engineering/graduate/. If you wish to be considered for one of these programs, please kindly file an application at http://www.mun.ca/become/graduate/apply/. Then, please advise....... your name and student number to ensure all supporting documents are indexed to the new application. All the best in your future endeavor! What does it really mean?

Errm, It's quite understandable the explanation you seek regarding this email but i do not think it is appropriate to also display the name of the person you are to reach as well as her official email address. I suppose the email was in confidentiality and was meant for you not for everybody.

Maybe an overview or a summary of the email content would have been appropriate rather than a lift from your email box. However, since you have displayed them already, i'd advise you remove both details(Name and official email) from your earlier post same to others that quoted the post. This is to also avoid her getting unofficial emails from readers that may want to take undue advantage as a result of this.

nacos:
Hello everyone,
Please i have a question. If i'm applying via online route, do i need to also fill out and submit the 'Application for temporary resident visa made outside Canada (IMM 5257)' form??

No, you don't have to. If your study permit is approved, a visa will be issued on your passport without a separate application using the IMM5257 form. So, you don't need to fill it.

jnyuwa02:


I know someone who was denied and reason given was that they couldn’t find his workplace indicated on the internet or any provider. So it is necessary if you are giving out any info on your sponsor, to provide along with bank statements, CAC registration including recent tax clearances. Indeed they verify CAC. A simple run on the internet can verify you the status of any CAC registration. Dont play with these people.

The less the number of sponsors the better. Three sponsors might make the status of your finances a little erratic. Try and stay within two sponsors. Best wishes!

Really? @bold. Seeing this one for the first time. So what was the generic reason(s) as ticked on the refusal letter?

Lemia:


Hello @Austinpee4

I really appreciate your kind words of encouragement and support. Thank you.

I have actually been following this thread for a long time. I read the whole of part 12 and 13 and contributed to the thread as well. That's how I went about compiling an application as decent as this (though not perfect).

I hope and pray the visa officer handling my application sees to be as convincing as you see it.

Though I feel I crafted a great SOP, I would be very glad if I could still get your input regarding my SOP as there's always room for improvement.

Thanks again boss!

Regards,

You have done the best you could do. Obviously, you read and understood how to package a good application and most importantly, showing inclinations towards your interest, passion and achievements.

In positivism, i look forward to the outcome of your application and in due time, we all will celebrate with you. Feel welcome to send me a PM for your SOP. I'll go through it and revert back to you.

Regards.

Lemia:
Hi guys.

So I'm about to submit my application and here's my profile for you guys to tell me what you think.

PERSONAL
CIC forms, Upfront Medicals, Police report, Well crafted 3 page SOP

ACADEMIC
-B.sc Industrial and Production Engineering (First Class), University of Ibadan. Graduated January 2017
- Proposed course MASc, Systems Design Engineering, University of Waterloo.
- Letter of acceptance with full funding ( RA + TA + Scholarship) Worth $36,076
- Undergraduate Transcripts
- WAEC results

EMPLOYMENT & QUALIFICATIONS
-NYSC Posting and Call up letters
- NYSC ID
-Schlumberger Internship employment and attestation letters.
-My startup company project details
-My small photography company details
- My CV, SAP certification, Automation certification.

FINANCES
- Tuition and fees - $ 22,500 per year
- Full funding worth - $36,076 per year
- additional financial support from my dad worth 2 million naira for flight and other miscellaneous expenses.
- My SOA, Dad's SOA
- Dads letter of support and employment details.

HOME TIES
- Dad's landed property
- My retired parents and siblings (attached all their birth certificates and ID)
- My career goals to develop education sector in Nigeria by being a professor and entrepreneur.

Firstly, Congratulations on your academic achievements and funding.

From your profile, you have one of the most detailed knowledge of documents to increase your chances of an approval.

More to this is also the fact that your biological father is supporting you financially which makes your back up sponsorship credible and reliable.

I see a good application that suggest good academic progression(being that you recently completed your degree program) that is logically inclined to both your degree and your passion as well. Your start up and a certification in Automation will also speak a lot about this. It appears clear that you are rooted in this field aside just having a degree and this is one thing an officer would look out for. Your home ties are also good enough.

I believe you have submitted a good application there is. Be hopeful and also be positive that it will come out well in the end.

Regards.

Frankrobbn1:

Austinpee4,

Hehehe Funny.... Not just MFM church, there are other new generation churches to run to like "STAB THE DEVIL TO DEATH INTERNATIONAL PROPHETIC MINISTRIES".....
, I think this should be the best place to go. Maybe they might stab one of the visa officers.

Bad enough that the applicant accepted such offer knowing well that a second person is involved in same sponsorship. It's appalling the extent these agents go in their business while trying to make ends meet.

Why stand in as a sponsor for 2 persons when in real sense you won't avail the funds you have claimed to be available?

Since the application has been sent in already, we can only wait till things begin to play out. Hopefully, it isn't too much to bear.

Meanwhile, Great job you have been doing here bro, i salute you.

Bieber78:
Guys pls I have question

Me and my friend applied through a agent I submitted my application yesterday and my friend applied today

We used both used thesame agent and we both have little amount in our account so our agent used his company account as our third party sponsor

Now my question is can the embassy find out me and my friend used thesame sponsor ( although I submitted my application yesterday and my friend submitted today)

And if they find out can we be refused?

I just hope and pray nothing was misrepresented by you and that agent. If he/she did , you should start locating a local MFM church to pray without ceasing.

smslive2:
Nope... I respectfully disagree with you SIR.

What will a Bsc and College Certificate (for example) give you?

A three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree PLUS any of the results in the sections below (not including secondary/high school), or:
The list of qualifications in that section

Why do you think they specified (not including secondary/high school) after mentioning sections below?

Because Secondary school (high school diploma) is a section on its own!

Yeah, i get your point.

smslive2:
Please note that the list in your attached is not the complete list.

ECA assessment results:

A three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree

PLUS any of the results in the sections below (not including secondary/high school), or:

So in other words... A three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree PLUS Any other qualification in the various sections below the "Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees." will qualify for 2 or more certs..

Hope this helps?

Opps! Ermm, Actually, I only shared the relevant list of qualifications. It doesn't include all the results in the full page. Each sections have points allocated and specified. It's certainly not " PLUS any other qualifications in various sections' just the specified one to claim the appropriate point. I hope you don't get it mixed or misunderstood.

mcstan18:


Reference to the bolded. Since it was evaluated as a certificate and the option states thus: “Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees. One must be for a program of three or more years.” Doesn't that qualify this person already? If not, what then is/are covered under the term "certificates"?
Just trying to clarify for the sake of those who might benefit from this. If anyone has successfully done this with either of the other assessing bodies, kindly indicate.

I get your point. However, one can only qualify for 'two or more certificate' if the certificate, degree or diploma is three or more years PLUS a post graduate degree/certificate or diploma but not a 'pre-degree' certificate. Hope this clarifies it for you.

mcstan18:


Are you certain about the bolded or it's just your thought? Have you or anyone you know attempted to evaluate it? I used to think it would receive a one year diploma evaluation

Certainly not a thought. I saw an ICES report on it hence my submission.

Here is the thing, most remedial program usually are not of a continuous assessment but of a final examination and generally to fulfil an entry requirement for a degree program and therefore would not have a recognition of it's own right. The one i saw was assessed as 'one year advanced pre-University certificate'

Like you already know, most diploma programs are 'area specific' eg, diploma in business admin, diploma in mass communication etc and are recognised and assessed from the content in that area. A report most definitely would be ' one year diploma in..... '

These two reports have different comparable levels in Canada. So there is a huge difference.

Regards.

lovetree:
Hello people....welldone
Please in a bid to increase CRS scores, I was wondering if those remedial programmes done by those universities before finally getting admission...some schools call them diploma... but my school(unilorin) call it remedial programme....is it possible to evaluate them with B.Sc to get 2 or more certificates...Has anyone done it successfully or has any idea about it.

Your input is needed please.....thanks house

No, remedial program won't qualify you for 'two or more certificates".

You must have atleast a three-year or more certificate, a diploma, another degree(bsc) or a post-graduate/graduate certificate or diploma in addition to your bsc to qualify for two or more certificates.

Unfortunately, a remedial is a 'pre-degree' and usually not assessed as an equivalent of a diploma in Canada.