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tayex1:I think you have a good profile. With a master degree already, do due diligence in explaining why and how an MBA would add to you and your career/business moving forward. Assuming your previous application was refused for reason(s) other than funds, there would be an onus on you to show the significant change in circumstance from what you have been engaged in and all that has happened between when you were refused in 2015/2016 and your new application. The MBA should be at the instance of your activities between this period possibly career or business need. This way, it will be logical and cogent that an MBA is what you need at this time. |
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klintino: Congratulations!! |
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jayifeanyi1234:Big Congratulations! 1 Like |
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Frankrobbn1:Great job buddy! We highly esteem you sir. God bless. 1 Like |
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mcobex:Always bro! You are not always far like myself ![]() 1 Like |
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Ayoola03:Good to see you around! I trust things are going on smoothly! Really been a while. 1 Like |
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@waynee2baba and Frankrobbn1, both of you have very valid points. I just want to add to both views. While it is always advisable to apply early for study permits due to various reasons one being 'pressure' on the officers to conclude on these applications by applicants as well as meeting their stipulated processing time, it is also not completely detrimental to apply later or close to resumption date especially if one has a very good reason(application) and can convince through with such application. Applications as we all know are processsed all through the year irrespective of the resumption date. Each application are concluded based on it's individual merit and uniqueness. Also, there are other factors that must be considered too. These applications go through different stages(security, background, eligibility checks etc)and some may completely not be at the discretion or instance of the officer untill maybe the final stage(decision making) considering the numbers of application to be concluded on to meet resumption dates. During these peak periods, the stages may not take or go through a particualr order as it would during the less application period which may lead to an officer not carefully considering all evidenced documentation presented before him/her . Applications from our part of the world go through rigorous scruitnity to determine essentially 'INTENT'. So rather than considering the academic purposes of these applications alone as it should be, officers largerly would also consider the intent behind these applications hence different factors would be considered. (Age,year of previous study, recent activities, strong home ties etc). All these during the peak periods i would assume may not be well establised by an officer hence you see a very good application refused on a rather ridiculous reason(s). However, it still isn't enough to say applications during these peak periods stand a high chance to be refused or that the government have reached it's quota for the year. Statistics have shown that Nigeria has about the lowest positive issuance of the study permit all round the year in recent time. This ofcourse are from obvious reasons. We are not even close to our counterparts from Asia and other part of the world who usually would stand better chance. Having mentioned these, it is highly advisable to apply months before resumption dates. However, this does not guarentee an approval or mean that such application would be delayed or refused. The only thing i feel is that it would give an applicant sufficient time to readdress an issue in a case of a refusal or respond to a correspondence from the processing office. So yes, both of you have made good points and they are valid. An application is processes and assesed based on it's merit but there is always and 'unknown' extra when Nigerians are involved, more so when there is an influx of applications that sometimes do not even pass the eligibility stage. It becomes difficult to see through the good ones. Regards guys. 8 Likes 3 Shares |
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Urielbam:It's only normal to be anxious about the outcome and timely response of your application considering your program commencement date. However, i believe they will soon get back to you soon about your application. So hang in there, be hopefull and do all you can to be less worried. Regards. |
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Greetings people! I see a lot has been happening and the thread is still very much serving it's purpose! Here's wishing everyone in various and different stages the very best! To all the old and new members contributing and helping out, more grace to you! Your effort will never be forgotten. @Frankrobbn1,@mcobex and other long time serving gurus,i see you guys! Massive respect for your relentless effort till now! Again, i wish everyone well. Cheers guys! 11 Likes |
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StacieG: With your profile, i think you made a good move by ordering for your GCMS file first before you bother about what next and how to tackle your next application. This will enable you critically look at the detailed inferred reason(s) by the officer who handled your file especially on the purpose of visit refusal. This is the main thing in this refusal. 1 Like |
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Hi guys! I can see we all are keeping the thread moving! Weldone! 1 Like |
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@goingforward I'm happy for you and your family. Massive congratulations to you and yours. Regards. 1 Like |
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Diijah:It means you have between when your got the letter to 17/07/2020 to travel to Canada to obtain your study permit. Meaning your Visa(for travelling) has a validity of two years. Your study permit will count from when it is issued at the point of entry in Canada. |
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Frankrobbn1, Happy birthday brother! Keep soaring! Looking forward to the good news. Regards bro. 1 Like |
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Kriff:Well, i may agree with you in terms of the GCMS note being a detailed version of the generic letter of refusal. However, the ambiguity of the details sometimes can negate the reason(s) as ticked on the refusal letter. But be rest assured the officer would have documented how he/she reached the decision. This is so because there are different circumstance in reaching a decision and the generic letter may not precisely capture it and a vague reason(closest in meaning) would be ticked. Purpose of visit even though most often than non concerns your intended program/visit,it may be other reasons aside that. Do not forget the main essence of questioning your purpose of visit is the inability to satisfy the VO that you the applicant would leave at the end of your study. So @Vibrant99 submission is not out of place. He probably meant the details contained in the GCMS note appears different from the refusal letter in content and meaning. To add, say an applicant has shown very strong will of travelling to study in Canada and probably been rejected previously and suddenly reapplied with an account statement showing multiple lodgements of huge funds with uncleared source within the short period of the previous refusal and the reapplication, such application may be refused for 'purpose of visit' too as 1. It would be clear you are trying hard to get the visa without properly considering reasons for your previous refusal as well as the requirements of the study permit. 2. You likely will not return after study(This is the base point of purpose of visit). So yes, you may be refused for purpose of visit on the generic letter and your GCMS notes are funds related. The overall circumstances of applicants is key in considering their purpose of visit, funds availability as well as their likelyhood to leave Canada at the end of study. So don't be surprised when the GCMS note is summarised from a different stance point from the generic letter of refusal. A lot would have been considered. Again, it is good to get the GCMS note after a refusal. Regards. 8 Likes 1 Share |
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vibrant99:I couldn't agree more. Very valid point bro. The GCMS file note is the officer's report on the conclusion of the application and actually not meant to be written as to the applicant. It is for their records and hence will be well detailed than the letter of refusal given to the applicant. Thankfully, applicants can access the GCMS note through the access of information act which eventually would help one prepare better and tackle reason(s) for a previous refusal. The generic letter of refusal is vague and would not give the full underlying reasons for a refusal. From an experience here: Applicant was refused for 1.purpose of visit 2. Travel history 3.All reasons for insufficient funds. GCMS note: PA had travel to Canada once for visit and overstayed by a single day( reason for purpose of visit and travel history), Source of funds not provided(reason for insufficient funds). The officer doubted the genuineness of funds available. In this case above, one would think it's the program of study or question why travel history is ticked when there is extensive travel or that funds were not sufficient and would proceed to add more money to the account. The applicant could surmise these without the note and reapply and the application would have resulted to yet another refusal. The GCMS note helped. Reason for overstaying was explained and evidence was included. Business contract execution documents were also included to show how funds were gotten. Reapplication was approved. These and many more are some of the reasons the GCMS note is encouraged. 9 Likes 2 Shares |
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vibrant99: Well, i had to quote this post as it can be misleading. While i agree with your that available balance of a statement of account does not guarantee a study permit approval, this "If you have 1 naira and you feel comfortable with submitting ur application,please go ahead" should not be the case. This being that there is a requirement that each applicant MUST meet when applying for a study permit and one being that applicants MUST have equivalent of their tuition fees and 10,000CAD available and accessible by them for the first year of study. This requirement completely has nothing to do with the VO or trying to impress. It is a stipulation in the study permit regulation. The VO simply enforces it so that at any point after the application may have been approved, it would have been established that at the time of application, there was sufficient and required funds for both tuition and living expenses. This information is usually documented in the officer's GCMS note for future references. Also, it is important to note that how funds are accumulated is as important as the available balance. So having huge amount of funds may not equal funds sufficiency. Sources of funds, ability for either applicant or sponsor to generate funds for subsequent year(s) of study are also considered. There are areas in a study permit application that falls under the stipulations and provisions of the Immigrations and refugees protection act and are backed by the Immigration laws. Available funds for tuition and living expenses in the tune of 10,000CAD is one that does and there is no discretionary considerations on the part of the VOs when processing. They simply ensure it is met. So using your "scenario", the applicant MOST certainly met the funds requirements for the application to be approved. Either through his/her sponsor or other liquid form unencumbered. I just had to respond to this to avoid an intending applicant feeling he/she can submit a SOA devoid of funds for tuition and living expenses for the first year of study. Regards. 6 Likes |
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@galala123, Your perseverance and resilience all through the years pursuing your desire is really commendable. I'm glad it has eventually turned out well. All the best as you begin your studies. 2 Likes |
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henricson:Congratulations! |
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Folaroyal:Hey buddy! Been a long while! |
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Wow! Part 15 already! Greetings to everyone(both old and new members) and especially @justwise for keeping this thread going. Hopefully, this part brings to us our desires in the Canadian study quest. All the best guys! 3 Likes |
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goingforward:Big congratulations to you and your family. I was really looking forward to this news. 2 Likes |
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canadabyfire:Yeah, possibly. |
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Linzo:I don't think so. The question was relative to the general "slow" nature of processing applications. No particular application process was directly asked even though different responses were given on various application types. Meanwhile, the was a response given about study permit applications in the latter part of the first response. That being said, it is also important to note that all Canadian immigration path be it permanent or temporary(study permit)understandably go through same bureaucracy, GCMS structure, Security and criminality checks etc. Every individual applying to enter Canada(TR/PR)will always undergo a standard procedure for admissibility and eligibility as enshrined in their laws and provisions of the immigration and refugees protection act. I think the respondents especially the first supplied information on the workability and challenges surrounding the modus operandi of IRCC visa applications which is significant to the question asked. Regards. 2 Likes |
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This is quite insightful regarding delays and the processes of IRCC. https://www.quora.com/Why-is-CIC-so-slow-and-what-are-their-employees-doing-all-day 5 Likes |
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galala123:Yeah, i get. If he was able to meet and satisfy the officer, i doubt he/she would have mentioned the EE in the file note. All the same, you gave a good advise. Regards. 2 Likes |
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goingforward:Yeah, i think it is better to go one step at a time being that it will be a mountainous task convincing and convincing but then, if an idividual feels he/she can match up the requirements, there is absolutely nothing wrong applying for both at the same time. The law allows for it and they are reviewed separately. An applicant who has received his or her study permit and now studying can absolutely apply for PR provided they meet the requirements. Understandably, there are two classes or route for an inland international student applying for PR. 1. Applying through the FSW(Federal skill worker) program if they already had work experience prior to study, evaluate their highest academic qualification using the ECA, have all other requirements(lang,funds). This will also mean the student would be applying for PR as though he/she is applying as others applying from outside Canada even though present in Canada. @Osemigho did same and has his PR now. 2. Canadian Experience Class. This would require the student to have achieved a Canadian work experience and possibly a Canadian education. Your job in Canada will have to be in skill type/level A, B or O of atleast one year and of 30hours/week same as the FSW only that there is no required settlement funds required in this class. Lastly, when you obtain your COPR(Confirmation of permanent residence), you only document and change status on various places you declared as student earlier before you became a PR. The officers will proceed on your change of status. Also, both the PR and SP visa are mainly issued to people outside Canada to enable them board an aircraft, clear immigration and be admitted into Canada. The visa foil on a passport is neither a study permit or a permanent resident card. These documents are only issued once in Canada but if the study permit visa was issued for multiple entry into Canada, they will be cancelled by the immigration Authorities when you go to change your status and collect your PR card. This is because you will not be needing a visa to travel in and out of Canada anymore. You will need just your PR card as you would have become a permanent resident. Hope this brings clarity to you and others in need of this info. Regards. 6 Likes 3 Shares |
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galala123:Emmm, the bold actually wouldn't be the main reason for that refusal since the law allows dual intent. Apparently, the applicant was not able to convince the Visa officer that he/she would meet the requirement of a temporary visa(Study permit) while having a PR application simultaneously. The problem most applicants would have is convincing the VO and meeting the separate requirements of each category of residency hence it is advisable to proceed with one. From a nairalander experience: He was very well established in Nigeria. Had a functional company, business and investments worth millions and, immediate family was in Nigeria. He wanted to upgrade himself academically and also relocate his family members to Canada. Well, He applied for his SP and without a decision, he also applied for PR for himself and dependants. His SP visa was approved and visa issued, PR application approved too later on. However, on request of his passport, the SP visa was cancelled and the PR visa issued as expected. Note: He was well established in Nigeria which i believe the officer was convinced he would return to the investments he had in Nigeria and he also met other requirements of a study permit hence it was approved even before considering the PR application as they are reviewed separately. So the problem is majority of folks applying do not have strong evidence to meet both requirements at the same time. Best advise for people would be to apply for the one they can substantiate well enough and are able to meet the requirements. Regards. 6 Likes |
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Anchillary101:You really should take down this post of your very vital information/details. |
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