funshow247:
1. Pls great men in the building...Is it advisable to send SOP as a document to CIC e-mail after you have already submitted an application but did not include it.
2. If you receive a message to fill the form IMM 5476 ( use of Representative form), is there any implication if you chose to tick the second option which says "cancel the use of a representative'.

Cc: Thesoj, Austinpee4, Maziude, Jnyuwa02, All helpers....
Thanks

1. If you feel it will help your application by elaborating on some key aspect of your application, your purpose of study, discrepancies in any part of your application or to communicate to the officer your overall plans with your program upon completion, then you should send it to them through their email (accra.immigration@international.gc.ca).

Otherwise, if your application is straight forward enough, you can leave it out. It is not a compulsory document.

2. I don't think there is one but i'll suggest in so doing, you give good reasons for changing your initial use of a representative. If you don't have any, proceed with the form. It is more like a consent form regarding somebody helping with your application, issuing and getting information on your behalf during your application process as well as authorizing the embassy to communicate with the individual(s) other than yourself. Either ways, i don't think it is harmful to your application. Just a measure to control release of information especially confidential or personal.

Aallizzwellwole:
Hello sir/ma..
I really appreciate the effort of you guys here. Please I kindly need your advice. I applied to study computer science in UNBC, and I made a deposit of 3000$, my elder brother is my sponsor, I used a statement of account that contains 25M naira.
My study permits was refused twice and am planning to reapply again. My first application was refused based on purpose of visit which I explained to them in my second application. The second was also refused based on fund. I was asked to explain these three questions under fund:
1) How will I pay for my flight to Canada.
2)Without working in Canada, how will I pay my school fees
3)Without working in Canada, how will I cater for those accompanying me to Canada.

You need to get the officers note on your immigration file which is also known as GCMS(Global case management system)file. The letter given to you when your application was refused most times is vague and may note properly guide you when tackling the concerns of the officer. So a good move to remedy the situation is to get this file, once it is out, you can bring it here so people can help proffer solutions as you prepare for a reapplication.

Check the first page of this part of the thread(part 13), you will see a link on how to order for the file.

5454Darese:

Lol, don't Nigerian politicians take oath?

jnyuwa02:


It is possible for VO to be African. Maybe an African who lived in Canada and obtained citizenship and now works in a Canadian oversea mission. In my practise of immigration law in the U.S., I have come across a fair share of judges who are immigrants themselves from other countries and they are they worst judges to have. I have also come across administrators who interview and issue greencards to applicants. They were African administrators. They are always so merciless those foreign born trier of facts. So it is not beyond the pale, the suggestion that a VO could be African.

I know say this issue go enter another thing and the points would be missed and be dragged. So let's face the house issues and make anybody be VO from anyway, as long as they do their job.

Let's move on.

pennstate:
Are Africans not canadian citizens?.

Senatorkolade:
we work with them and I know quite a number of them here in Lagos that are Canadians but African origin. They were also the beneficiaries of this immigration process in the past but wants to destroy the ladder that they took to Canada.
The greatest ordeal I have encountered in my travel history is how I was delayed for three hours at the Atlanta Airport last year by a black immigration officer. Guess what, the man is a Gambian-American IO.

I agree but my point is that in their role as VO, they are Canadian citizens and have taken an oath to protect the interest of Canada first at all times irrespective of their other nationality. That's actually my point.

@AugustChild,

One vital thing you may want to know is that your program would be financially demanding and you will have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that your sponsor will live up to the responsibility. Your purpose of visit is questionable from the length of your program to how you explained the transferability to a university after completion. You probably didn't explicitly put them together very well.

Here is what i would suggest.

1. Get a direct undergraduate program in a university showing a full program of a bachelor's degree.

2. Have your sponsor pay your full first year tuition and have your living expenses in convertible currency.

3. Write a short SOP of your passion and your achievements. Leave unnecessary things out of it. You probably are very young and will find out as you progress in your endeavour what would matter to you more. The VOs are aware of this considering your age.
Too much of unnecessary information in your SOP would suggest you didn't write it yourself and ultimately would make you seem unprepared for your proposed program. Just leave it simple and what your ambitions are in future as well as how the degree would help you.

They have summarized your previous application and any new application would be reviewed from that premise. Work closely with your GCMS note, don't try too hard to impress them, consistently put your information together and you will be good.

Senatorkolade:
That visa officer was angry with the quality of SOP written by the applicant. I guess the VO is an African. VOs don't comment on the quality of our English composition. They know quite well that many Europeans with poorer English composition than ours do perform excellently in their fields. So, looking at the long epistle written by that VO, I am much more convinced that he/she is an Africa

Haha...i wished they were!

Actually, Canadian visa officers at any embassy are full Canadian citizens same with other embassies.

The embassy may have indigenous staffs of their host countries or other countries but certainly, the visa officers will be a citizen of the country they represent. Don't forget, they must work for the interest of their country and act according to their laws and regulations.

Other nationals may be biased in either issuance of visas or from mere sentiments. All Canadian visa officers are Canadians!

AugustChild:

It is from Accra o, the thing gave me goosebumps on my skin. I did paper application and linked it online.
Please help sir

Hmmmm. This whole note for one person?

From purpose of visit to insufficient funds to travel history to employment prospect to relationship to sponsor to poorly written SOP etc.. Pheww!!!

This one need microscope or binoculars!

Firstly, share your profile. (degree, intended program, employment history, sponsor, your home ties etc).

This visa officer vex sha.

AugustChild:


Tank you sir, well I am not going to any of them but I paid half fees to my college. kindly assist me and also I have received my gcms note which reads: please it's long sha o but be patient to read :
[code][/code]Attending college. Limited recent travel history on file to demonstrate a pattern of having traveled and returned to their home country. The applicant has provided a study plan that poorly explains why they would like to take this course at this point in their life and what benefit they expect to get from it. It is often vague and lacking in concrete details that would make it convincing. It also contains errors that suggest the applicant is not ready for their intended course of education. Overall, the plan isn't reasonable given their stated intentions, age, as well as academic and professional history. After considering the applicants academic and professional history as well as their planned studies and explanation provided for it. I am not satisfied that the applicant is applying in good faith. The stated benefits of their intended studies do not seem to warrant the cost and difficulty of undertaking foreign education. I am therefore not satisfied that the applicant will leave Canada at the end of the period authorized for their stay as required by R216(b). Costs to be borne by a 3rd party. Applicant has not demonstrated to their guarantor, I'm not satisfied of the permanence of their financial commitment and that the applicant has the funds to pay for their studies in Canada. I'm not satisfied that the applicant has demonstrated enough funds to pay for their studies and stay in canada. As a result, I shall not issue a study permit to the applicant as required by R220. Applicant's declared employment and evidence for it don't constitute a significant tie to their home country, especially because they are willing and able to leave it for the duration of studies. In addition, given the applicant's weaker employment history and the troubled economic conditions in their home country, I am not satisfied that they have significant employment prospects to compel their return from Canada at the end of their studi[color=#990000][/color]es. Client has demonstrated limited assets or property to tie them to home country. After examining the applicant's family, financial, and professional ties, I'm not satisfied that those related to the clients country of residence are sufficient to compel their return at the end of the period authorized for their stay in canada as required by R216(b). I'm not satisfied that the applicant meets the legislative requirements to be issued a study permit. Study permit refused.



Please I need helpppp! All these for one person?

Mehn, i want to believe this certainly isn't from accra visa office(stand to be corrected though). Looks alien compared to the notes from accra visa officers.

Did you apply online?

Derksjock:
Good morning all, please I need some help, I applied for TRV on the 12th of June, 2017 and on the 28 of August, I was sent a request letter asking me to pay my full year tuition and provide proof of source of income of my sponsor plus number of dependants he had in his household, all of which I did by the 7th of september and uploaded the documented proofs alongside letters of explanation all just to be shocked by a refusal on the 21st of september and I am still yet to receive my correspondence letter as is hasn't yet been uploaded to my online account after even getting an email that my account was updated and that I should check for a message. I just need some closure and that correspondenc letter would have been a good start
I have ordered GCMS though and its a masters degree program at Uwaterloo, Electrical and computer Engineering
Undergraduate program :computer Engineering (1st class). Sponsor lives in Canada, a PR

Cc: jynuwa, Austinpee4, Gregorian, maziude ...please anybody that can at all help

na real wa o! Refusal after meeting their request? Hmmm.
Hope you did exactly as you were instructed.

Anyway, since you don't have the correspondence letter, we won't know what the issue is. While you wait for the correspondence letter, you may want to send them an email citing the non inclusion of the letter in your account after a final decision was made.

It's possible the documents you submitted did not meet their requirement or satisfied the officer or Maybe, an error was made, just maybe!

larrytorch:
By the Grace of God I would be applying for TRV soon.

I have been seeing a lot about the financial part of the app on this thread, but there are certain things I do not understand yet. For instance, the sponsorship part: In my case, I'm not the one sponsoring myself but my dad. Do I need to open an account for myself and deposit huge sum of money into it or what? I'm quite confused about that.

Another is that, when is a large sum of money considered money lodging?

Better still, I'd prefer if I can get a detailed information about sponsorship and anything that has to account/finance. This way, there won't be a need to ask any questions regarding this matter again in the future, and others can learn from this information. Thanks.

Austinpee4, guzenaira, thesoj and the ogas at the top. I doff my hat.

The issue of sufficient funds meeting CIC's requirement is unambiguous and clear. Have equivalent of your tuition and living expenses atleast for the first year. The more you the applicant make this fund accessible to you the better especially when using a sponsor. I would say yes, open an account for yourself and if possible a dorm account as funds in convertible currency will show exportability of these funds when necessary without much hindrance through forex policies and all. Your dad being your sponsor makes it even a reliable sponsorship. All he needs to do is in addition to the funds, he should add all his source(s) of income, his proof of employment or business and also add a proof of his relationship to you. (birth cert).

Large sum deposit or as you put it money lodging is when a significant amount of money enters an erstwhile inactive account prior to the application or when funds that does not over a 6 months period give or show the average income of the applicant/sponsor leading to the available balance are deposited without a proof of it's source or origin.

Also, available funds that will meet the requirement can be a one time proof (scholarships, loan, funding, etc). So since you are using your dad, he MUST show he can meet this obligation of sponsoring your study.

Conclusively, have your funds for your tuition and a minimum of 10,000CAD for your first year. The more these funds are accessible by you, the better. In doing this however, it must be logical, convincing and without doubt that said funds will be available to you. Sometimes, it is advisable to pay your tuition and have funds for living expenses in convertible currencies. This will allay any doubt as to your access to funds for your first year.

Regards.

Holyfield1:
I've just been delayed for the 3rd time

Nothing can measure how sad I am right now, after all the prayers and fasting

All is well

Please house if I apply again after deferring my admission till January, Will that raise an automatic red flag?

Won't the embassy feel I'm desperate to leave the country?

All is well, I hereby back out now

Thanks Bayocanny, Austinpee4 and everyone here

Opps! Sorry about the outcome of your application. The feel certainly isn't a good one but you will overcome.

Well, just like @jnyuwa02 mentioned, you will need your GCMS file. Take your time and reapply. Actually, you can apply as many times as you can but in so doing, you MUST address the concerns of the previous refusal or officer, meet their requirements and ultimately satisfy an officer that you would leave Canada at the end of your authorized stay. If you do this in the 10th attempt, your application will be approved. The only thing in applying multiple times is that reasons to return home would be stronger as they will also pay attention to how well you addressed the previous concern and your overal circumstance as well as you likelyhood to return home.

Dredre01:
Austinpee4.....Hoping to submit my application this week for January intake. Please Austinpee4 hope not late?

I can't say if it's late or not. The earlier you send in your application the better. The processing time on CIC's website for Nigerian applicants only shows the time frame it took that office to process a good number of applications. Processing and decisions are made WITHIN the time stipulated. So anything is possible from the 3rd week to the 14th/16th week. Endeavour to send in your complete application this week like you mentioned and be hopeful a decision comes sooner.

Alantobie:


You don't get...I have answered the part where they asked if I have been refused visa. I am asking whether it is yes or no for the other part

Your answer to the question of "Have you applied to enter or remain in Canada" should be NO.

Unless you have previously been issued a Canadian visa/permit and applied to extend it, then you can answer to the question. Also if you have been refused entry at the border of Canada, then you should answer Yes. Otherwise, your answer should be NO.

The other question of "Have you been refused a Visa/ permit to Canada or any other country" is what you should be concerned about and give a truthful answer.

guzenaira:



Haba!!
Senator Austinpee4, Your Excellency Sir.
I believe you are part of the Senators that made the page 0 constitution As amended by the Canadian Students Visa Thread 13.

I so much believe that Page 0 of the constitution as amended said it all about the journey.

Baba, your contributions, advice and suggestions are very solid. Weldone bro. I will read from page 0 as advised. Thanks boss!

Nice one buddy @guzenaira. Your posts makes alot of sense. Emmm, please eh, how do i start this Canada student visa process? I just stumbled on this thread this afternoon, biko help a brother!

abestine:
@jnyuwa02,@Austinepee4,@thesoj.

I think it's high time we have a list of applicant for winter session as usual, so people going to same province can know each other and connect
Thanks

Good idea.

kennykolabo:
Please how many weeks,months or years does the application time take now. Two of my sisters applied since May 23rd and till now, we haven't heard anything .

Please does it takes this long again. Online application,tommorrow makes it 4good months , 17good weeks now, we are all scared.
Please kindly help and advise on what we can do

It takes exactly 2- 3 years to process applications and your sisters' may take a little over 3 years

Just kidding!

Processing times for study permit applications for Nigerian applicants have shuttled between 14-16 weeks in recent times. However, some applications have exceeded this period due to alot of factors. A few being the significant high volume of app, formalities in background checks, inadequate documentation,pending or insufficient information from immigration related agencies working with CIC, issue of misrepresentation, request for additional info and documents, etc.

The best your sisters can do is to exercise more patience, check if their application has passed the processing time stipulated on CIC's website, once it has, they can send a mail requesting information on the status of their application using
accra.immigration@international.gc.ca. or/and use the web form.

Regards.

Phewww!!! Finally, the anti-spam bot let loose of me!

@Maziude and @abestine, thanks.

kennykolabo:
Please how many weeks,months or years does the application time take now. Two of my sisters applied since May 23rd and till now, we haven't heard anything .

Please does it takes this long again. Online application,tommorrow makes it 4good months , 17good weeks now, we are all scared.
Please kindly help and advise on what we can do

It takes exactly 2- 3 years to process applications and your sisters' may take a little over 3 years

Just kidding!

Processing times for study permit applications for Nigerian applicants have shuttled between 14-16 weeks in recent times however, some applications have extended this period due to alot of factors. A few being the significant high volume of app, formalities in background checks, inadequate,pending or sufficient information from immigration related agencies working with CIC, issue of misrepresentation, request for additional info and documents, etc.

The best your sisters can do is to exercise more patience, check if their application has passed the processing time stipulated on CIC's website, once it has, they can send a mail requesting information on the status of their application using accra.immigration@international.gc.ca or/and use the case specific enquiry/webform found here http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/contacts/web-form.asp

Regards.

abestine:

I want to believe CIC will definitely request for a new admission letter whenever they decide to approve your visa, provided you passed all necessary review.

The normal and best thing to do is request for deferral which you did and it was turned down. Holding your slot with the school doesn't guarantee you a new admission letter, since they have told you they are not deferring it.
I will advice you request for refund and reopen another application with the school, if you can get an admission with your documents in your first application, I believe you should be able to get admission again.

As for your application for Visa, I will advice you put in a request for withdrawal stating the reason maybe you can be considered for refund if possible...

All what I've said so far are my suggestion and thought, please wait for other advice which maybe more suitable than what I have said... Ire o

I think withdrawing the study permit application at this point may not be the smartest move. Anything is still possible. I also doubt much a refund will be completed for her app that has long been sent in since june.

A good move will also be reapplying for admission in the same department just like you pointed out but i still feel this should be at the point when a new offer letter is requested. The request would expedite the process i feel or better still, the school can advise on the best possible way around her circumstance so it is a win win for her. CIC can be very unpredictable.

What do you think?

twendy:

Please help.


Please..

Once there is a positive review of your application, CIC will request a new offer letter with a new start date from you and not the school. Also note that the new letter will have to be the same DLI(school) you used for your application. So you should reach your school, explain to them the situation on ground and tell them that there is a possibility of a request of new start date and i believe the will work around something for you. The main thing for these schools is that there is progress both in your quest to study there and in your study permit application.

Some schools allow you to withdraw from a course at a certain date to avoid financial charges but then, the funds will still be in your student account and it's available to you at anytime. So make sure you have verified from your student accounts department about the financial situation of dropping and adding courses(Course registration).

miki001:
let some one help me with the admin number
pls am an undergraduate from uniben 300 level on a second class upper and want to do.my master on psychology in Canada any advice for me

Why not exercise more patience and work harder to maintain your current grade till you finish, read up information here as well as on google for your preferred course and then when the time comes, it will be an easy sail for you. You still have a year to complete your program. You will need to excel very well in your concluding year to also give you a great chance to secure admission in Canada. So focus on that, find useful info for your intended program in Canada and when the tine comes, you will get all the help you need.

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bumaye:
@austinpee4 I need reassurance because I have been freaking out for the past 2 hrs.
on my Canada questionnaire they asked to write down our academic history. I wrote down only one school meanwhile I attended two. one from 2004 to 2010. the other to write waec. I ended up writing the one I attended last, also adding that I attended the school from 2005 to 2011. I don't even know what u was thinking when I did all these but it has been done. I have sent them email and they replied that if they situation comes up they will get back to me. I am so scared right now. please help me with any other suggestions.

You have nothing to worry over. Do not allow fear grip you. The main thing is your HIGHEST level of qualification which should be your degree(if you are going for a graduate program).It was on that premise you were offered admission. You have filled this on your application form and as long as you have shown evidence of it, you are fine.

Let me even try to make you calm down further, You see, if actually there will be an issue with the error, it will be an issue of misrepresentation which is highly unlikely in your case and according to their immigration law, an officer before making a decision MUST ask and allow the applicant a chance to explain the circumstance through a 'Letter of procedural fairness'. So if atall that issue comes up, you will be given a chance to explain or and possibly back your claim.

Don't shiver. You are fine. Online applicants don't use the questionnaire and their applications are processed and a decision made.

belle94:
Yes I did

You will not be able to track your application because the tracking number was given when you did your biometrics and you cannot track it now that it has been updated on your account as 'Completed'. All the info you need about your application will be on your account and not on VFS website.

belle94:
Hi guys, I tried tracking my application, but I keep seeing no record found, please what do you think guys

Did you apply online?

Nwebele:


Thank you so much Austinpee4,
Infact, I didnt just know what else to do to prove otherwise. I wish I had found this thread before my first application. The truth is that having left my career for so long has affected my life in so many ways. My HND result was low. I should have done PGD immediately like my contemporaries but I was sure from my husbands promises that business would pay me.

When I didnt get accepted for the pgd, I browsed the school programs and when I saw a Law related course, I opted for it because I had always wanted to do Law. I didnt know it would affect the visa approval. Should I do a PGD program here and then apply for a masters later in Canada? Would that help me?

I would say it's a good decision and a response from me would be a YES. It certainly would be a good way to show the VO that you want to study. They now have your details and once there is a significant change in situation by you pursuing the PGD in Nigeria first and later going for a master in Canada, it will show that there have been progression in your quest to advance your career since the last refusal.

When the time comes to apply for a study permit to complete the Master degree program in Canada later on, you can then add that a foreign degree in law would give you more career prospects especially with multinational companies in Nigeria as most of them would welcome a foreign trained employee because chances are that they will work well in the diversity of the organisation.(SOP hint for others).

Regards ma'am and all the best in your endeavours.

Nwebele:
.........

Please dear all, do you think it is true? I should have applied for masters? Should I give up the dream as advised? Is there anything I should do to change my situation? Why did they write that i am free to rrapply if I can respond to these concerns and demonstrate that my situation meets the requirement? Please help a worried sister

Hello ma'am.

Sorry about the outcome of the 2 applications.

You know, there are some factors that certainly would be considered when an officer reviews each application.

1.Why did this applicant choose this program?

2. What does she stand to gain upon completion?

3. Why is she not considering studying in Nigeria considering the cost ?
4. Will this applicant leave Canada upon completion of program?

Since your last application was refused for purpose of visit, it bothers around your proposed program or the officer suspects that you are using the study route to migrate to Canada rather than educational advancement. I actually can't say if you can get a master admission in Canada with your HND qualification, if you can, then you will add to your chances of your reapplication.

A diploma is actually lower than a degree which you already have. It will be hard to sell this to a visa officer unless you have extremely compelling reasons to undertake this program.
A lot of college diploma, PGD/C progams in Canada are structured for work placed demands. They are often times considered as programs to brush up your skills and hone a specific knowledge to help you perform at a particular role/profession. The PGD/C pograms also are for applicants changing a career to a different field other than the previous degree with some level of work experience(1-2). Most times, if a study permit applicant does not fall into any of these categories, you will have to convince the officer very well why you need these programs and how progressively it will add to your current situation or circumstance considering that a logical step after an undergraduate study should be a master degree.

So, if you can get a master degree admission, great. You can also get a PGD/C program as well and make a compelling case. Otherwise, it may be a little difficult using the diploma to secure a study permit. With your profile, it may not be logical.

They wrote that statement on the refusal letter to give you another chance to show that you want to study. In so doing, you MUST meet their requirements and also satisfy them that your primary intention is to study and that you will leave Canada upon completion of your program.

Regards.

mightyola:


My dad is relocating in 3 days time and my mom is not yet. My brother and sister are my co-sponsors and are in U.K and the States respectively. My maternal Uncle is my main Sponsor,who is also in the States. what's your take?

So what or who are your hometies?

mightyola:


Please can i include my parents U.S permanent residence Docs, will that help also.

IF they are your sponsors and If they are currently in the US and to show their current immigration status, you should. Otherwise, you should use them to establish hometies if they are in Nigeria. Any identity documents would suffice if the latter is the case.

Travelpes:
Dear House,I submitted my application online and observed that my UCI number changed from the one i had before?is there a possibility or i made a mistake somewhere?

Your UCI should be the same. The only change should be in the application number. Anyway, this shouldn't be something to worry about. They will still use the UCI you had. Possibly an error on their part. Nothing scary.

mightyola:


Thanks so much. One more thing,can my sponsors scan all the supporting documents to me,including the letter to the VO

Sure.