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BetaThings:
Thanks for that sincere advice
I have always believed in fairness. This past week, I took up issues with Alj Harem and Beaf was surprised
I don't believe in blind support. There is no community without people who will step out of line
When Muslims do things that are wrong, I get pained. I am ready to condemn it

But when a Christain carries out egregrious acts and Christians believe it is ok, then they are sending a message
That only their lives are sacred. I know a lot of Christians personally and we jist etc
But here on NL, there is some mythical notion that Christians do no wrong
If you watch that video where a Muslims' head was put on a spike and somebody was posing for photos with it
Any human being should condemn it! That guy holding that spike has crossed the rubicon!

This guy is engaged in sophistry - somebody is defensive or aggressive. What do they mean?
Being defensive is not a crime, but refusing to acknowledge the atrocities of criminals is a crime/sin
If he truly believes in God, he has to be careful.

I had wanted to say something in this thread, but you have said everything!

I usually get tired of trying to make them understand where Islam and violence differs, but they tend to turn blind eye to whatever reason I brought up. Watching that video is so disheartening, so called boko haram can recruit hundreds of angry youths with that video alone.

They use to still under-estimate the intelligence of "BOHAQIM" (I mean Boko Haram / Al Qaeda in Maghreb)

aspabay:
@Op. Even though i disagree with you, I like the way you responded respectfully, its a good one. Its not sufficient to say that the extremist ignore a passage for selfish gain, there are passages that clearly support such motives and intentions.

Thank you. I like flight similator game very well, but I can't just land at the proper place because I have no guide, sometimes I just switched to autopilot in order to land safely. That is a clean and clear example for men of understanding.

Expect someone to blame boko haram soon!!

The worst website hacked! They can try and do something better.

No, French please

apoti:
I thought we have religious section

Because Islam is now full time in Nigeria's politics, because of the "Political Boko Haram"

amaham:
Bia auwal or watever your name is if u r lookin 4 a place 2 de-radicalise your knive-wieldin,suicide bombin almajiris u better go 2 all these hate preachin mosques littered around northern nigeria and not making me begin my week badly by readin your ill-fated defense. You educated northern nigerian muslims are not doin enuf 2 prevent all these xtremism.

Because of people like you and maybe if luck the extremist too can see and reason

quid:
How come boko haram and the 9/11 men did not read this teaching of Mohammed?

Did their Islamic teachers hide it from them?

They read and shun because they are following their selfish interest, not true Islamic teachings and values

A visit to Nigeria can make them become little more patient

They have no idea what a real power failure means

http://emiratweet.com/2011/05/21/3-hours-with-no-electricity/

Three men went to Prophet Muhammad once and wanted to express their sincerity. The first man said, "I will fast everyday and never eat during the day again." The second one said, "I will remain celibate to worship God for the rest of my life." And the third one proclaimed, "I will pray all night every night and never sleep again."The Prophet was not impressed with their zeal. He told them, "I am the Prophet of God, and I eat and fast, I also marry and sleep at night. Whoever does not follow my path is not one of my followers."The message from the prophet is that faith should be practiced in moderation. The Prophet warned his followers against religious extremism in all its aspects.

Moreover, Islam as a faith is not confined to common rituals of worship such as prayer, fasting and remembrance of God but is encompassing of all aspects of life. Hence, eating, sleeping, and exercising to recoup one's strength in order to be a functional healthy person for example is as important to staying alive as it is to being a believer. Marrying and enjoying conjugal life is not just an integral part of being a human being but is also considered an act of worship. The Prophet repudiated the three men's declarations because they were leaning towards extremism.During wartime, the Prophet gave strict instructions regarding rules of engagement. "Do not cut down trees, do not burn crops, and do not kill women, children or the elderly. Fight only those who fight you," he used to say.

At the outset of his mission in Makkah, he strictly forbade any retaliatory act of violence against his enemies even in the face of the severe persecution and hardship early Muslims were subjected to in the holy city. He could have asked his followers to try to assassinate some leaders of Makkah, particularly those who opposed him most, in return of a promise of paradise but he did not. When he settled in Medina and a group of known hypocrites fomented fitna, or sedition, some of his companions wanted them killed. Prophet Muhammad, now politically and military strong, refused arguing that he did not want people to say that Muhammad killed his followers. All of the wars he fought were either defensive or retaliatory.

Source here

Just got attracted with the Nigerien president's dressing, can Jonathan do this even for a day??

News link here Warning: News in Hausa Language

Somebody said Muslim Nairaland member should come and say something right, well here is what I have to say,

1st - There is right to appeal up to the Federal High Courts if the thieves want to, because they are Nigerians, they can move the case out of the Shariah court, which I believe they will do.

2nd - All of you crying that is why beggars fill the country blah blah blah, it is clearly stated that this is the SECOND time that an amputation order is given by ANY court in these states where there is Shari'ah courts. Most beggars are a result of different diseases like polio, and some of them mostly accidents which do happens everyday on the bad roads that Nigeria have. (So blame this on Diseases and Accidents, but not on Amputation order which is rarely given by Sharia'ah courts because of lack of reliable evidence.

3rd - All of you crying that IBB & Co are supposed to be judged first, please let one of you go and take a case to one of the Sharia'h courts and see if the case is not taken, go along with solid proofs of the transactions. Any case, in any court, needs valid proofs. Nigerians talk more than acting, one of you can be a hero now now now by proposing a case against IBB for stealing government funds, believe me, they will take it.

4th - Yes, it is not right to give a Governor the final say of the Judgement, but looking at the political venture of the country, and the way Sharia'h cases are taken by other people whom happens to be mostly non-muslims (whom have nothing to do with Sharia'h case in anywhere around the country), the Governor can fuel down the polity and decide not to give a go ahead to the judgement if he feels that will cause trouble in his state.

Finally, It is their option, and I repeat it is an option to go to a Sharia'h court, they have every right to appeal.

IG:
@Auwal, you also seem to have deliberately mistranslated the words of Sheikh Jaafar in your video. There is never a point where he advocated for the splitting of Nigeria. He simply acknowledged that all signs are pointing to the future disintegration of Nigeria which he clearly stated doesn't hope will happen.

And where did I said he advocated for the split of Nigeria? He made his prediction, and that is what I said.

One day the news might read "Igbo Politician Sponsor of Boko Haram"

[quote author=South-East link=topic=753390.msg9094064#msg9094064 date=1315337923]A stark nonentity like Alj Harem needs no response
That said, folks should remember Sanusi and his:
''Igbo man invested in Sharia Bank''
''Igbo state (Anambra) got a loan from Sharia Bank''
Blah! blah!! Blah!!
Now ''Igbo man is Boko Haram''
Who really is the author of the article, Oluokun Ayorinde? What is his affiliation? What are his antecedents? Was the same story contained in other newspapers?
Who is that Igbo man in BH? What is his name? A muslim or a christian? If a muslim, how did he become one? Was he forced to become a muslim? Was he forced to be a BH man? We need all these variables

These terrorist muslims are looking for straw to clutch on[/quote]See me see wahala, why don't you ask these questions when the story is different?

Rossikk:
Let's see:



- Most populous country in Africa with 150 million people.

-9th most populous country in the world after China, India, United States, Indonesia, Brazil, Pakistan, Russia, and
Bangladesh.

- Africa's 2nd largest economy with an annual GDP of $370 billion.

- Africa's largest oil and gas exporter.

- At 125 trillion cubic feet (tcf), the world's 7th largest gas reserves after Iran, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United
  States, Algeria and Venezuela.

- Africa's largest university educated population of approximately 30 million.

- Africa's largest and most prosperous middle class of approximately 50 million.

- Most extensive road network in Africa.

- One of Africa's top 3 most powerful military forces.

- Home to Lagos, the 6th largest urban center in the world after Tokyo, Mumbai, Mexico City, Sao Paulo, and New
  York City.

-  Nigeria is the only African country listed among the "Next Eleven" economies - countries on track to become the biggest economies in the world in the 21st century.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Eleven

- The economy of Nigeria is the 4th fastest growing in the world, with the International Monetary Fund projecting
  a growth of 9% in 2008 and 8.3% in 2009. The IMF further projects a 8% growth in the Nigerian economy in 2011. ( Figure now revised to 8.9%) http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/03/nigeria-4th-fastest-growing-economy-uk-govt/


- Nigeria has one of the fastest growing telecommunications markets in the world, major emerging market operators (like MTN, Etisalat, Zain and Globacom) basing their largest and most profitable centres in the country. The government has recently begun expanding this infrastructure to space based communications. Nigeria has a space satellite which is monitored at the Nigerian National Space Research and Development Agency Headquarters in Abuja. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria

- Nigeria is the first and ONLY black country to manufacture motor vehicles including cars, buses, trucks, and suvs:

http://innosonivm.com/en/index.asp

-  17th Aug 2011 Nigeria launched the world's first black-built satellite.

''NATION LAUNCHES FIRST SATELLITE BUILT BY AFRICANS - Nigeria successfully launched NigeriaSat-X, the first satellite to be designed and built by Africans, into orbit this week (17 August). NigeriaSat-X was launched along with another small satellite, NigeriaSat-2, from Yasny in southern Russia.''   
(Source: Middle East North Africa Financial Network)  http://www.n2yo.com/?s=5580


- Nigeria - World's fastest growing Construction Industry:

''Construction growth in Nigeria will be the fastest of all markets, according to the latest 10-year forecast from Global Construction Perspectives and Oxford Economics.

The new study says China will overtake the US as the world's biggest construction market by 2018, but that the fastest growth will happen in Nigeria.''

''Africa’s second biggest economy is poised to lead world growth in construction for next decade.''

http://stratsisincite./2009/11/14/construction-to-become-worlds-fastest-growing-in-nigeria/

http://allafrica.com/stories/200911130010.html

- It is actually the 3rd largest if you check on Egypt and South Africa if you are taking on GDP (PPP)

- University educated people like the PhD holder "Ebele Jonathan" Nice one  

- Middle class ko? How I wish you will say the remaining are all rich.

- Road Network, say thanks to IBB for that

- Top 3 military forces, are you talking about IBB, OBJ, OJK?

- Just recently, Lagos was reported as worst place to live in the world, taking the 4th position

paraphase:
So you dont know Nigeria manufacture vehicles? Get updated Brov!

Actually, it is called assembling.

A more bigger picture

Onlytruth:
Posted by: auwal87
LOL. More like the giant of thieves and jipiti!
Try that in naija and see as the box disappears in broad day light and in full view of all. 

very indeed

One day, a wealthy Nigerian man planned to compare between Nigeria and Sudan, he took a plane bound for Khartoum Airport, on arrival at the airport while waiting for his passport to be stamped for entry, he saw a large box full of money meant for donation, but to his amazement this box was widely open, he called the attention of a security official thinking that they mistakenly left the box open, the security guard told the man, no, this is to enable donors with high denominations of a currency donate some part and pick their change from the box. The man without getting his passport stamped decided that his comparison has ended from there. So he returns to his "Giant of Africa".

Back to the subject matter; What really makes Nigeria the "Giant of Africa"?

okunboy:
@OP U may only proffer a solution to a problem you know the root cause. Like all other brutal Islamic sects, they hold the believe found in that 'holy book'. One of such is:

Qur'an:9:5

"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."



So how do you solve this generational problem?

You fail to complete with the next verse;

And if anyone of the disbelievers seeks your protection then grant him protection, so that he may hear the Word of Allah (the Quran), and then escort him to where he can be secure, that is because they are men who know not. (Qur'an 9:6)

I do pity Libyans without Ghaddafi

^^^

Thumbs Up!

The problem is, the country is purposely made

NAME THEM

Me think BH is awakening Nigerians  

Russian Love Match is the only advert for this thread!

abeg take this thread to the joke section and allow me finish my falafel!

Nice editing

We got graphic designers!

Onlytruth:
Posted by: auwal87
Wao! This auwal87 guy is one smart dude! 

The most powerful point he made is that an Englishman whose country had lasted for 900 years came to Africa to start a country from scratch, as if there were no distinct nations in Africa then.
There were many nations. Only that the British would not have benefited the way those nations were. So they merged them with dissimilar nations to create a permanently unstable Nigeria.
Imagine Iran in EU! I dey laugh.   

Good one auwal87

That is only the truth (Onlytruth).

ROTFLMAO

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