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@OP

Can you state precisely what evidence yo will need to [b]know[/b]there is a god/God/gods?

Logicboy03: There are many tings worse than death.

Long term terminal suffering is worse than death.

To me, if someone is conscious enough to wish that he should be killed because of his illness that cant be cured and leaves him in perpertual pain, he should be gently drugged into a sweet death.

How I hope that some of the christians who claim that there is no case for euthanasia should be in a position of perpetual torture (due to health issues) so that others can look over them and smile while they cry for a sweet painless death as a release from the pain

If we are to wait for everybody to pass through that, we will wait forever.
but there is no other way, is there?


by the way, hw u dey?

Euthanasia (from the Greek: εὐθανασία meaning "good death": εὖ, eu (well or good) + θάνατος, thanatos (death)) refers to the practice of intentionally ending a life in order to relieve pain and suffering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia

Right to die-ethical or institutional entitlement of any individual to commit suicide or to undergo voluntary euthanasia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_die

Euthanasia- and the slippery slope-right to die are two distinct issues on which debates never seem to end. In Nigeria. only a handful of people i know are in support. Most are not, for majorly religious reasons. Now, as we know too well, religions can be adaptive,If faced with convincing reason.
My argument for it is as follow;
1) Terminal Patients sufferring from agonizing disease/paralysis should have an option of ending their life, it is their life .
The muslim counterargument
1) Life is bestowed by Allah,therefore, he is the owner and creator . Only him can take or give life.
this implies Euthanasia / right to die is forbidden.
2) If a man is ill and no treatment seems to be working, all treatment may be stopped( Treatment may include analgesics)
The christian counterargument.
1) I have no idea . sorry

From what i have read and people's opinion about it, the major argument are from religion.
To all nairalanders, what do YOU think?

NL member: Is the OP of this thread still alive?

just going thru the archives,
saw this................

VERY VERY MUCH ALIVE..........for now

Logicboy03: It is over christians.....

You guys can not rule the internet. Christianity (religion in general) can not prosper where freedom of speech, freedom of religion, equality and available information exists. These four things exist in advanced countries like UK, Japan and Denmark- that is why atheism is strong in these countries....


Worse off, the internet is a place where those four things are in abundance and as such, the internet is where religions come to die....



I have been noticing that once in a while, I get likes from the thread in my signature (arguments against god). These likes used to come randomly but now they are getting frequent to almost every week.

The resident atheists couldnt be the ones liking the thread every week since they were around to see the brouhaha it caused.........

3 43 pm
hmmmmm, almost made it.

on topic
its true actually, turns out, we are so many. met one not so long ago. and then another, and then........
but they dont really care. if people want to remain in their delusion, who cares? but they are students, with their own problems. its best to concentrate and succeed on whatever it is they are doing before taking on something potentially dangerous like ........

wiegraf: Oh, I see. Unlike me, you're not lazy and actually get some work done more often than not. Damn you. Damn all productive peeps

There was another (smaller) bestiality thread recently sef.

That frustrated heathen @sriktly did sort of change my stance back in the older thread. Well, he actually didn't say much per se, but while mulling over stuff during the debate it occurred to me that, by my standards ie, I probably was wrong about them being victimless. Hmmm. Yes, I probably was very wrong if I were to use my yardstick..

Hmmmm
That's nice to hear.

Logicboy03: All is well

I moved back to Nigeria

Contemplated suicide after 3 days of poor electricity and gaddem slow internet.

Met an atheist that inspired me

Back to life, back to reality

Work hard, play hard.....lagos life

Eeyyaaaaaaaa
Now I can compete with you,
who posts first
All those oppression with fast internet is OVERRRRR!!!!!

Take thaat! Logic

wiegraf: WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?

Lol, brah, good to see you about..

Sorry, wie. That career is (insert bad words here)

I just had to show face for a minute or two.

Hw far, bro? We should have that bestiality thread again. Never managed to comment.

fellis: Hi, welcome back.

Good to see you're still alive

Very much so. Unlike those cadavers ofcourse.

cyrexx: [img]http://4.bp..com/-rwlvOdGlWZc/TwzRWq09dfI/AAAAAAAAIzU/I2kUyvBCuT0/s200/cub_happy.gif[/img]


I'm so so happy to hear from you. It's so good to know that you are doing fine.

How's your medical career going on, bro. And how's your family. I hope you've not "broken" their hearts with your non-belief?
*echoing Muskeeto* pls stay safe



LOLing at your comment that you could be young enough to be my child.. abeegi oo. i am not that old ooo. abeeegii oooooo

No hearts have been broken yet. Except ofcourse, some of my friends. I understood something, no one really cares if you are not related to them. Its the relatives that want to 'save' you by force using any means necessary. I find that ridiculous.
My medical career is progressing nicely. Na stress go kee me if anything.

I v calculated it jooooooooooo. Cross multiply and then divide, all over 100! I jus may be youuuuuuunnnnng enuff oooooooooo.

musKeeto: lol.. good one...



you don give Lb reason to parry dis weekend...

And myself.

Muskeeto........I v always wondered at that username.

Logicboy03: Dancing Azonto......


Come lagos make we parry!

Hehehe
Na alingo jooooooooooooooo

Hahahahahahaha

Trolled you eh??!!!!!! Heheheheheh

I'm having the fun of my life.

Oh my.


Its been a while peeps. Nothing changed much actually. Those that need to know, know it now.


I missed you guys( no homo, sorry simonAndal) and strangely the arguments. I hope to move to Lagos in a couple of years, I hear that's where the fun is.

And Logicboy, I will like to throway salute for that epic troll of the muslim section. When @wie pointed out it might be you, I laughed and laughed.

Just saying hello, I'm not dead yet. @ fellis.

@cyrexx
Please, I couldn't reply the other time, please, do not address me as a 'sir', I might just be young enough to be your child ooooooo.

I saw some notification on my page, I'm sorry for not replying the emails, I can't access my account, apparently.

Thanks.
Signed- Avicenna

musKeeto: Lol. Whatever id you're using now, seems this thread sent shock waves through this section..

Stay safe..

Thanks bro. Its been a while.

cyrexx: Avicenna, long time no see. How are you doing, sir. It feels good to hear from you again.

Peace.

Oga Cyrexx
I v been fine. I apologize for my absence.
Its been a stressful session.

Thank You very much.

Logicboy






Happy Holidays and a Prosperous New Year.

#done.

I'm VERY busy. I stopped posting for a while now.
So, I may never reply.

Take care.

@Abdulsleek

I'm an atheist. Ex-muslim.
I left Islam because I do not agree with it. Some morals, some punishments.......

I have no belief in God because we have no evidence for him. Its that simple.

You said somewhere that Allah is wrong.

I agree with you. COMPLETELY WRONG. I was told to never put my morals or principles before Allah's own. I'm not sorry, my reason says different. I have no interest in worshipping an ignorant God( no offence).

This your questions will finally lead you 'astray'. Not necessarily into atheism but you will definitely leave the religion. Maybe become a deist if you still believe in God.

My point is, trying to find answers here is futile. You will get rationalizations. And rationalizations. And finally, a GODDAMN take it or leave it.

I left it.

Kay 17: So life is for total happiness?

The meaning of life is whatever you imbued in it.

Some people , happiness.
Some, public service.

You decide the meaning of your life.

I have to admit tho, in reality, life is meaningless.

I intend to give my life, a worthy meaning.

KingMEXX: Am not here to throw tantrums at each oda, i jus want yu to ansa dese questions for me, usin d ATHEIST's belief.
If yu believe dat dere is no God, no ''Sky daddy'' as one stated, how do yu explain
1...Earths rotation on its axis, why hasnt it 'fallen' off??
2...d beginning of a river/Ocean and its end..how did it all start
3...Origin of man and its existence. How did we start existin? Who gave birth to d 1st person dat existed on dis world?
4....How a foetus forms and develops inside d womb?
5....Sleep! D phenomenom behind Sleep and dreams.....

Explain all dese tinx and tell me if durin d explanation yu would not include a Supernatural Being? Am waitin

*deep sigh*

Posts like this saddens me. Deeply.

Well, this has been educating.

I see where Delafruita is coming from tho.
But, if you think there is not 'enough' evidence for the dino-bird link, THAT is not the only evidence for evolution.

The Oregon study has also been contradicted by another studies. You don't expect scientists to incorporate something that has already been contradicted into mainstream science, Do you?
Evolution(science) is by no means dogmatic. If other studies had supported the Oregon study, it would be the standard theory now.

Your accusation of dogmatism is inappropriate. If people defends gravity, it doesn't turn them dogmatic or into religions.

Enjoyed your posts. Very much challenging.

Kai.....

Went away for 2 minutes and this thread went to 8 pages!

Wow.

Logicboy must be really despised by some people.

#nice.

#Unrelated#

How are you sure a snake cannot talk?
You do not know what love is?

@Macdaddy

Remember?
#unrelated#

Bélla3: what? Why vexing? Anyway cudnt expect any better from YOU!
Btw i was joking with macdad bt i mean the this one.

Whatever.

Bélla3: are you worth hating?*just asking*

What? What are you implying?

Anyway, couldn't expect better from your types.

Sweetnecta: @Avennice: if only you could extend your passion for justice and fairness on other people; like parents and the entire family and friends and future spouse or those who do not know the awful secret, kept.

It is not a awful secret.
I do and I will continue to.
My atheism is a non-issue.

BTW, I told the girl. She, uhm, didn't like it. Very angry. Insults.
But you know what, she loves me anyway. I love her too.
It is times like this, I'd like to say Alla.....Ak...... God is.....

Alhamd.........

Don't get ahead of yourself. We are not getting married. Not anytime soon anyway. With my disposition sef, I hope it will last.