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Religion / Re: To All Atheists. Once And For All.. by Avicenna: 5:56pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
I am Yoruba and atheist.... I call..... Bullshit! 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Even Atheist Fear God by Avicenna: 9:47pm On Oct 28, 2013 |
Elantracey: How come d so-called atheist re mute to dis Did you even read the OP? Extremely shitty conclusion s/he drew up. Excrement( like this thread) are best avoided. God is a powerless, non existent imagination. Your God is a fool Your God is a slowpoke Your God does not exist. Your God is a fool, a slowpoke and does not exist. God..... And so on and so forth. |
Religion / Re: I Just Noticed This. Am I The Only One? by Avicenna: 5:45pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
Naija thru and thru Ex- muslim.... ATHeIST.... |
Religion / Re: It Is Dishonest To Describe Atheism As A Lack Of Belief In God (silly Atheism) by Avicenna: 9:01am On Oct 15, 2013 |
Excuse me as i go and pray |
Religion / Re: It Is Dishonest To Describe Atheism As A Lack Of Belief In God (silly Atheism) by Avicenna: 9:00am On Oct 15, 2013 |
I am Number 7 on the scale by the way. Gerrriittt?? Number f.u.kk.ing 7! |
Religion / Re: It Is Dishonest To Describe Atheism As A Lack Of Belief In God (silly Atheism) by Avicenna: 8:58am On Oct 15, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Actually,that useless argument is more common than you think..... Anyhow, i dont see how that statement negates atheism sha. Its just reinforcing the total non existence of God. Not even disbelief........God does not exist.....full stop. |
Religion / Re: It Is Dishonest To Describe Atheism As A Lack Of Belief In God (silly Atheism) by Avicenna: 8:37am On Oct 15, 2013 |
Man, this sallah meat na die ooooo....... Back to being a muslim just for this splendid meat....choi @topic I sort of agree with muskeeto( dis tin cracks me up anytime) ........ Some may interprete the statement to mean you disbelieve in something that exist. Like its a personal opinion which may not be grounded in reality. With muskeeto( hahahaha) method, you avoid ridiculous arguments and accusation of bias. |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 9:38am On Jun 10, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Who wouldn't ? I'd bleach like my life depended on it. All those beautiful indian chicks on TV, very light skinned......................oh, it makes sense now. I don't think I have ever seen a dark skinned lead actor/actress in an Indian film. Unfortunate. |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 9:34am On Jun 10, 2013 |
musKeeto: Sorry about the Username......I just can't help it muskeeeeeto- man, I CAN'T help it This religions sef, is there nothing redeemable about them? Violence, segregation, racism, delusion, WTF? |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 9:30am On Jun 10, 2013 |
wiegraf: |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 9:29am On Jun 10, 2013 |
wiegraf: Ok, thanks. I will try that. But if it hurt my eyes.................. I will be back. |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 10:51am On Jun 08, 2013 |
musKeeto: I dey fine ooo, oga muskeeto(this tin cracks me up anytime I'd like you to confirm this; is the hindu caste system truly(practically in reality) based on colour? Seeing that you are in India and all. |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 10:07pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
Alfa Seltzer: You know, this comment is how I discovered that almost everything should be examined on a personal level. If you would not allow your criminal brother to be lynched, Why would you allow/support the lynching of anyone? Points of view like this,i believe, should emanate first from a personal level. I do agree that in some cases, Society must come first- my brother is a criminal, he should go to jail as punishment and for reform- for the sake of society. I clearly get your concerns though( the slippery slopes, the implication for mankind,risks etc). |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 9:51pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
wiegraf: Yeah, I see them. You particularly like this Sam. Can't get his books tho, hate to read from soft copies. they damage my eyes when I get any of his books, You are prolly going to do a line by line dissection PS- his second to last submission- investigator's discretion- is postponing the evil day. The moral battle will be fought when the UNREALISTIC scenario pops up somewhere |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 6:36pm On Jun 06, 2013 |
Alfa Seltzer: Alfa Seltzer: Unless I misunderstand what euthanasia means, I think "disposing of" the sick is a well suited classification.No, It is not. We are not disposing off the sick. we are to treat them. But on the request of a terminally sick person, we should do as he wish. You say, he should wait patiently because of the implication of euthanizing him, I COMPLETELY disagree with that. Wait patiently for death without dignity, in pain, hopeless, agonizing death. We owe him as a society to end him. Keeping him alive does not benefit humanity either. You say we need research to progress, Not everyone will be used in research. reminds me of the battles fought to get into cancer treatment trials. Most are hopeless(the trials,I mean) from the get go but desperate people still enter it hoping for a miracle. what about those that could not get into the trials? just ignore them? I disagree. Note that, I do not support Euthanasia for all cancer patients ooooooooooooooo. infact, if your disease is terminal but you are not in pain(pain is manageable), you should not be a candidate for euthanasia(checks and balances). |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 6:14pm On Jun 06, 2013 |
wiegraf: Wiegraff, hw u dey bro? abi na girl u b? thanks to you, i realized something. i have been thinking locally. In Nigeria, It won't work because we don't have quality alternatives. I have witnessed patient's tenacity to survive as long as there's hope(treatment,cure,family) in the horizon. What if there's no hope? In Nigeria, our facilities are fair( ) , hope dies too quickly. And Euthanasia becomes a real alternative. Babalawo treatment is a form of Euthanasia, i tell you. it is afterall a case of when we are developed enough. Not a morally unacceptable one. |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 6:05pm On Jun 06, 2013 |
Alfa Seltzer: If the abuse can be curtailed, IT IS WORTH IT. I have tried to avoid being personal about it but when an individual(like me and you) decides to end his precious life( due to conditions mentioned earlier) then, so be it. I will follow the individual rights on this one. I think,infact, we as a group owe him that. In addition, I am surprised that you do not see any difference between the two burdens. Extremely sick and extremely lazy. ( note that by extremely sick, i mean patient suffering from painful, debilitating incurable diseases and conditions.) Regretfully, Wiegraff would have been euthanized long ago |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 1:41pm On Jun 05, 2013 |
Alfa Seltzer:That is why I noted it is not euthanasia. And I quoted that alive because the person has a VERY remote chance of recovery. His muscles will merely suffer atrophy and he will grow older but he most likely will not recover or even improve. This is a persistent vegetative state. Some people try to avoid that by signing an advance decision form. It is a decision made not to burden his/her family. You will agree this burden cannot be compared to unemployed youths or babies or children or unproductive members of society. Euthanasia, on the other hand, is a request for assisted suicide due to 'incurable' diseases and conditions causing interminable pain. These patients are very much alive and may even live long enough BUT in severe pain. I must admit, my support for euthanasia as it is, has diminished but I know there's a way to avoid all the pitfalls and design a specific, rigid procedure for Euthanasia. Afterall, It is the individuals that make the group. Individual concerns cannot be totally ignored. |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 1:26pm On Jun 05, 2013 |
Alfa Seltzer:Ok. |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 1:22pm On Jun 05, 2013 |
Mr anony:Ok, thanks If I may ask, does this cover any painful, debilitating disease or condition with no cure in the foreeseeable future? Or just for the specific vegetative patients? |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 12:51pm On Jun 05, 2013 |
Mr anony: Oh...............I see. but that's for vegetative state. Euthanasia is for living patient but in severe pain with no hope of a cure anytime soon. Is there an advanced decision document for that? |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 12:22pm On Jun 05, 2013 |
Alfa Seltzer: Actually, They are normal , rational people. maybe, too rational. |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 12:21pm On Jun 05, 2013 |
Alfa Seltzer: You won't only If you are assured of funds to keep you 'alive'. I understand some people's anxiety at keeping families unnecessarily burdened by paying the cost of keeping them alive on the remote hope of recovery. This doesn't apply to people with excess funds. note, this is not euthanasia. |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 12:12pm On Jun 05, 2013 |
Mr anony: dude, I didnt say I should have the right to kill him. The issue is his right to request for assisted suicide. As for the vegetative state, he's good as dead already but not legally dead. It is different. A DO-NOT-RESUSCITATE form or that pull the plug scenario is not the same as a request for Euthanasia. |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 12:04pm On Jun 05, 2013 |
Alfa Seltzer:OK, fair enough. but Why i look at it from the perspective of the patient is that the patient may be ME or maybe YOU. It could be anybody. I want you to honestly answer this question; What if it was you? |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 5:18pm On Jun 04, 2013 |
Is it right by mankind? @Alfa Seltzer truly, euthanizing suffering patient(painful,'incurable' diseases) may slow down development of treatment for said disease but compassion for that patient is what made me think about validity and correctness of euthanasia. for instance, a adult man is involved in an accident, he suffers loss of control of his limbs and complete paralysis.The resulting prognosis; no treatment(cure) now or in the near future( i know there's lot of activity these days on treatment of spine injuries, just painting a scenario), he runs out of funds to pay for his round the clock care. Hospital put up some funds for a few weeks then abandon him. he CANNOT move. This causes accumulation of fluids on one side of his body. he's in extreme pain.he BEGS for death. NO ONE obliges him. he passes away after some days. Now, is the best thing keeping him alive by donating funds to him with no 'preferable' treatment in his future? Donations are risky by the way. or allowing him to go without pain and in dignity? this is a question of morality of the action. |
Religion / Re: Amazing Facts About Earth That Can't Happen By Chance But Just Right For Life. by Avicenna: 11:14pm On Jun 03, 2013 |
Emusan: YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! animal evolve from plant and then the dinosaurs evolve from bacteria while the viruses rose from the white man's lab and ascended into human's organs where it lives today. okay? |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 10:55pm On Jun 03, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Interesting......... But, just with every law, there's always a loophole. People may not support Euthanasia, JUST because of that. damnnnnnnnnn, this thing can't be resolved until opinions shift in favour. na long tin jare. |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 10:48pm On Jun 03, 2013 |
Evil Brain: The problem with euthanasia is that some elderly or sick people may be pressured by relatives to take their own lives when they don't want to. Its not uncommon for very old people to have children who want them gone for their inheritance, or just to avoid the stress of taking care of them. I've actually been approached once by a useless guy who asked me if I could make his aged mother (my patient) pass on faster. Allowing euthanasia would give scumbags like him a legal way to get what he wanted. Old and sick people are the most vulnerable to suggestion, manipulation and pressure. It would be terrible if such people start being made to feel that they are being selfish or inconsiderate to their loved ones just by being alive.That sucks. so, if one can design a 'foolproof' procedure for euthanasia(anyone suffering from terminal illnesses only),will you support it? And the right to die? just curious. |
Religion / Re: Atheists, What Do You Think About Revenge? by Avicenna: 10:42pm On Jun 03, 2013 |
surprised. well, i don't forgive that easily. i don't even pretend to. sorry bro, but I have nothing against revenge. for instance, that your friend's subordinate will/must apologize or he will be fired. Differences in opinions can be tolerated but not insubordination. but that's just me. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Euthanasia by Avicenna: 11:31pm On Jun 02, 2013 |
As expected, this place is saturated already.......now the daunting task of going through the archives. |
Religion / Re: Blood Transfusion And Religious Beliefs by Avicenna: 12:10pm On Jun 02, 2013 |
Blood tansfusion is dangerous relatively, but you know what else is dangerous, DEATH! Hopefully, we will find alternatives-molecules that behave like blood cells and whatnot. |
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