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fellis: hi. I read your reply on that thread.
I wanted to make these comments:
1. You were right, some people cannot live happy lives without reassurance that there will be an eternity where the good ones will be rewarded and the evil ones will get their deserved punishment. Maybe atheists should cool it a bit with the evangelism because of people like them.
2. A lot of people will cease to be moral without religion. Another reason why picking faults from religion is probably a bad idea.
3. Anything that defies logic is not necessarily wrong. It might be that the logical explanation has not yet been found.
(I know, there are 3 and not 2)

Sweetnecta: is all the occults and secret societies we have not enough with all the killings and we need to have more people giving in to evil until it becomes normal?

fellis: @bold, I know, that was the first time I was hearing a Christian say that faith must be backed by reason otherwise it is meaningless. There are Christians that would not agree with him on that opinion and would say that faith does not need to be accompanied by logic. He made a point though, that God gave us intellect and would not want us to thrust it aside and blindly accept anything and that the things which we do not seem to understand are things which the understanding has not come to us yet; it is not that they have no rational explanation at all and that was what got me thinking that maybe I was wrong about faith in Islam afterall.

fellis: I am not sure what the answer is that is why I asked; I just want to confirm.
Avicenna, I wanted to ask you a question, how is life as an atheist? Are you happier now than you were when you were a Muslim or does the thought of living only one short, transient life with no eternity depress you (like it depresses some new atheists)?

mkmyers45: Which of Plaetton's thread should i read?

thehomer: A neat analogy.

Niflheim: @billyonaire,i have read books on the yin and yang,sacred geometry,rosicrucian alchemy and freemasonry.alot of what i have read is in line with what you are saying.the rosicrucians in the middle ages knew about electrons and claimed that if you can suck them out from any material,that object will neither be able to reflect or refract light and this will automatically render the object invisible!!!

MacDaddy01: Why must there be a Judas 419 among 12 Nigerian disciples?

mkmyers45: Well it has also been reported in US.....

mkmyers45: Lets hope so...

obadiah777: Only thing Logicboy started and fuelled is the dumbing down of the spiritual health of Nairaland audiences Logicboy your soul is required in hell

Beretta92: Olaadegbu,u got most of ur stories 4rm "dying testimonies of saved n unsaved" by s.b. Shaw,rite? I'v read d book 2,but methinks many of d unsaved were just in a delirious state.i recall dat some believers also seemed delirious n made some unintelligible statements e.g edward payson (@ d beginning of d book if am not mistaken).one particular xtian even fought with some devil on his death bed,he despaired.also,some xtians who didnt see eye 2 eye on earth were supposed 2 hv gone 2 d same heaven e.g augustus toplady n john wesley.he accused wesley of abridging his work thru a most vitriolic letter written 2 wesley.i was so surprised 2 find out dat d young toplady wrote such 2 an elderly wesley because wesley opposed his calvinist stand.how such a man saw "d joys of d 3rd heaven" really beats me. moreover,am curious about why these supposed last statements by renowned humanists like edward gibbon,david hume, n thomas payne would be found in some 19th century xtian collection alone.

Billyonaire: God is not what you think it is. Agnostic/atheist are just humans whose minds have questions that are unanswered by the bible and other 'holy books' and refuse or fail to seek knowledge elsewhere. Indeed they are lost of ideas on the plus factors of the universe. They are very argumentative, violent, dangerous and 'remotely' suicidal when in extreme poverty. They are called "Lost Souls" in the bible. They need more education on the cosmic nature of "GOD". These knowledge are beyond the scope of the Bible, the Koran and other dogmatic 'holy' books. But the truth is out there....

musKeeto: My apologies. I meant atheist not agnostic..

truthislight: is it honesty to assumed that it was only atheist that were religious turn atheist?

Cant it be the other way round?

An atheist turned religious!

Why then are the atheist being ..........

Pls, dont be one sided in your reasoning and feel as though you are being maginalise.

musKeeto: All jayriginal is pointing out is that anyone who can't answer in the affirmative to the question "Do you believe in a god?" is agnostic..

I don't fully agree with him.

One who says he doesn't believe, then closes his heart to any such insinuation qualifies as an atheist.

jayriginal: I used to get that all the time (the bolded). So annoying.

Sweetnecta: you know that Laa illaha ilAllah is the appropriate last "words".

This your Allahu Akbar tells me you were never truly a muslim. no muslim will say Allahu Akbar is last words instead of Laa illaha ilAllah.

or you used to play one on tv? today there is "america muslims" tv program centere on arab blood, michigan.

Purist: I've never been a fan of FIFA, probably because I first learnt how to play with Konami (dem Winning Eleven days on PS1 ). The few times I've played FIFA, I wasn't so impressed. The game play is a bit clumsy to me, and no, I don't think it's difficult, because I won most of the games I played the few times I tried it. I still played FIFA 11 a few months back, not sure what FIFA 12 is like though. PES is king jare, abeg (although I must admit that PES 11 and PES 12 have been pretty disappointing ). PES 13 better be good, or else. . .

musKeeto: Nuff said.. so anyone here plays FIFA online?