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Mintayo: wow,nice thread,God bless you, and i was really blessed...i wish such thread can open again esp now...Pls where is the lady now, i mean pilgrim1? You hearing from her?
More of such threads pls...Jesus is Lord.

You don't have anything to say on what I prove for you. Your silence means you accepted my views and my proof.

dejgan: The scripture you quoted was totally out of context...if you dont know, come for bible study. I wont lift portions of the Quaran to fight you but argue based on principle of interpretation. Hosea was a prophet addressing the ills of a society of people who were serving God hypocritically and religiously like you muslims still sacrifice every year and some silly christians still pay tithes without loving their neighbours. that is the meaning of that scripture. it has nothing to do with the death of Jesus.

People like me went to sunday school for 18 years. I am not of the stock of Christians that just quote their pastor's messages.

Have you heard of the Messianic Psalms.....the book of psalms was not entirely written by David....its a compilation of inspired writings by several authors who mainly were temple priests and Levites. If you have not, welcome to a life changing discussion......be ready to quit hitting your head on the ground and I can promise you, your life will change. AMIN!

You said what I qouted was out of context, why not use ur own point to buttress my proof.
So u went to bible school for good solid 18yrs and u don't see all what I proof for u abi?. If u don't see it, I will proof another one for u maybe ur eyes will open, I don't know maybe u people don't read ur book constantly. HERE BELOW ARE MY PROOF TO CALL UR BIBLE UNHOLY:

ARE U SURE THAT THE BIBLE IS HOLY (YES or NO)

1a). 2 Samuel 24:1
24 And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

1b). 1 Chronicles 21:1
21 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

QUESTION------( is lord of david then satan)


2a). 2 Samuel 8:4
4 And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven hundred horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: and David houghed all the chariot horses, but reserved of them for an hundred chariots.

2b). 1 Chronicles 18:4
4 And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven thousand horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: David also houghed all the chariot horses, but reserved of them an hundred chariots.

QUESTION--(seven hundred OR seven thousand)


3a). 2 Samuel 10:18
18 And the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew the men of seven hundred chariots of the Syrians, and forty thousand horsemen, and smote Shobach the captain of their host, who died there.

3b). 1 Chronicles 19:18
18 But the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew of the Syrians seven thousand men which fought in chariots, and forty thousand footmen, and killed Shophach the captain of the host.

QUESTION--(seven hundred chariots OR seven thousand men? Forty thousand horsemen OR footmen? Shobach OR shophach)


4a). 2 Kings 8:26
26 Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel

4b). 2 Chronicles 22:2
2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri.

QUESTION---( twenty two OR forty two years)


5a). 2 Kings 24:8
8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

5b). 2 Chronicles 36:9
9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the Lord.

QUESTION---(eighteen yrs OR eight yrs? Three mths OR three mths and ten days)


FROM NEW TESTAMENT

1a). John 5:37
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

1b). John 14:9
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?


2a). John 5:31
31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

2b). John 8:14
14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.


ARE U SURE THAT THE BIBLE IS HOLY (YES or NO)

nwando: I wish I could dig them all out
We showed them pepper prior to them getting the Islamic section
Seun banned davidylan and i so many times because they cried out
The highlight was a testimony of a former Muslim that led to conversions of a few Muslims here from the emails she got
This place was a lot more fun

Mr man u better keep ur mouth shut, I asked u for dialogue to come our or to challenge me, instead to say something on what I said or comment on it or prove me wrong, insted you ll now be saying nonsense. You don't need to say anything again if you cannot challenge me. All what you are saying is not the point and it was not new that people converted to both religion so Mr man don't use it as point. I am still available for u anytime if u are ready.

dejgan: @ayenny02...you have refused to answer me....guess my last post silenced you a bit.....I dont have time for rhetorics of Arabic and hebrew since you dont even understand any...but I see you lift quotes from the Bible and twist the meaning to suit your fallacies....So it was Paul who came a few years after the ascension that imported the doctrine of resurrection...since you dont know...ask and you will be taught....I need not study the Quran to know my left from the right....you are totally misguided and your citations taken out of context.....

above all, its extremely the nature of an extremist (like your boko brethren) to thump up falsehoods like these in order to discredit another man's beliefs and when you dont succeed, you resort to violence. I told you, if you are this intelligent, pls harness this intelligence to better use in combatting poverty, health and social issues especially among your Muslim brothers in the North. Sa'lam!

Am less concerned if you know the right from left, I don't believe you followed this trend from beginning. If u do, I don't know why u people were always against muslim if u people saying something against islam nobody will talk, when it comes to muslim against u people that muslim are now exposing u, you people, u will now preaching rubish. Pls hold ur preaching or whatever.
If what I said in not correct or is not what is in bible proof me wrong now. What I expect from u is to proof me wrong

Mintayo: yes,God will bless you indeed...those threads are EYE-OPENeR...lols.

MINTAYO, Don't Runaway for me, just open another trend now after y refused to accept ISLAM or u are still thinking of It

black male: WHATTTT!!!!!! Thank you nwando....God bless u real good....

Ok, o ya go and open another trend to challenge us

seekermi: You mean either I get †ђε statement of result been legalize along with my neco certificate or not, I should go with it when traveling?

They would not accept statement of result for attestation. Either you do only neco or leave both.

Mintayo: let Him open another thread,he has derailed from the topic.

Let me ask u a question? All want I quoted above is it from Bible OR Quran?
If it is from Bible, you don't have any option than to leave it and accept true religion as ISLAM, the greatest religion that clarifying truth from falsehood.
The ball is in ur court now, NO COMMENT on all I proof for u.

Where are dey to defend all these allegation.
Where are desika, john mintayo and d rest

The christian will quote Mark 16:19 as a proof that jesus was raised up to heaven and sat on d right hand of God.

Mark 16:9-20 has bn expunged in many bibles. MARK 16 RELEGATED http://niv.scripturetext.com/mark/16.htm.


Christian believes in d cruxification necessary for their redemption of sin and consequently have to aaccept ths accursedness of jesus, too. This Christianity belief opposes d bibles teaching in Hosea
Hosea 6:6

6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

And in Mathew
Matthew 9:13
13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Also in matt again
Matthew 12:7
7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.


IT WAS PAUL WHO TAUGHT THE RESURRECTION

Acts 17:18
18 Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.

PAUL WHO NEVER SAW JESUS also admitted that resurrectn was his Gospel. 2 Timothy 2:8

8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

So christianity is not a teaching of jesus but of paul.

If you still believe that jesus is divine becos he was raised up to heaven, Why don't yuo accept other prophet as divine. Who was also raised;



2 Kings 2:11-12
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.

Also see; Genesis 5:24
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

And see Hebrews 11:5
5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

[quote author=john_tredon]YES he died and was then resurrected luke 24:46; and said unto them thus it it written and thus it behoved Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the 3rd day.[/quote]If I Start with u don't run o
Do you give more weight to what Jesus said or hearsay of d apostle and other witness?

Matthew 10:24
24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.

Here are some of d proof;

Matthew 27:46
46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

And

Luke 22:42
42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

Jesus prayer not to die on d cross was accepted by God according to Luke, Hebrews and James. Then how could he still die on a cross.

Luke 22:43
43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.

And
Hebrews 5:7
7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

Jesus prayer were here heard which means answered in a positive way by God
James 5:16
16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Jesus himself said in Matthew 7:7-10
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?

His legs were not broken by roman soldier John 19:32-33
32 Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.
33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legscan u rely on these on these soldier for pronouncing the death or did they want to save Jesus as they found him innocent

If jesus died on the cross his blood would clot and no blood would gush out of his body when his side was pierced. But gospel states that blood and water came out; john 19:34
34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water


When pharises asked jesus for a sign of his true mission he answered; Matthew 12:40
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Disregard now time factor which was also not 3 days and nights but one day (saturday, daytime only) and two nights (friday night and saturday night). WAS JONAS ALIVE IN THE BELLY OF THE WHALE?
YES, then jesus was still alive as he prophetised

Jesus himself stated that he didn't die on the cross. Early sunday morning Mary Magdalene went to the sepulchre which was empty. She recognised him after conversation to be jesus and wanted to touch him. Jesus said John 20:17

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

And in luke Luke 24:36-41

36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.

38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.

41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

If you still believe he died on the cross then he was a false prophet and accused by God according to bible: Deuteronomy 21:22-23

22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:

23 His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God that thy land be not defiled, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.

[quote author=john_tredon]Are u a pastor?becos I don't understand u. I challenge u, I don't have time to answer all d previous proof[/quote]Where are u from MR MAN, u want to Challenge I hope u go through d trend from d beginning.
Ok WAS JUSES CRUCIFIED?

Mintayo: why open another thread when you will still be arguing blindly and recycling arguments-i have gone through the threads above and they EYE-OPENER; i think you shld do too-all ur questions were answered there n d proof u need.
NB- all those(christains) that wants to knw the truth shld pls open d threads above by nwando,they are very interesting,i mean interesting-they will not want anyone to go deep into the history of their religion cus dey know der lies their lies...lol.
Arabic quran? So all other quarans are fake?- dnt bother to answer,cus i wnt either...(going to the threads above)...good morning.

I thanked God that you have accepted all my claims against you already becos you don't defend all allegation in this trend.
So am still expecting ur challengies o. Don't dodge it.

nwando: This was me back in the days when we rocked this joint
I wish I still had the energy


https://www.nairaland.com/107465/5-versions-arabic-koran. This thread is a must-read.read pilgrim,a former muslim do justice to it

https://www.nairaland.com/264305/correct-way-beat-wife

https://www.nairaland.com/328245/black-man-allah

https://www.nairaland.com/300031/when-did-allah-say-bible

https://www.nairaland.com/281140/only-religion-earth-kills-duty

If you still have d energy let's start now, you don't need to refer me to any tread where I will not get reply or trend that has been closed and no one to look at it anymore.
Let me tell you, you can't ever see any A'lim, Ustaz, Muhaddith, Qarii or Hafiz of the Quran that have time for internet then, So this is the time we people have time for propaganda of the Christian on Internet and media. I know you can't ever know the meaning of the names I mentioned above becos u don't understand Arabic.
You will never see anybody that qualify for that names I mentioned above to use translated Quran, Hadith and rest of islamic book, becos translated one just meant for u people that don't understand arabic. If you want to translate a word from arabic language it may require many meaning for example in yoruba language when we say 'oko', it may mean;
Oko......... Motor
Oko.........husband
Oko.........hoe etc
I challenge you anytime, anywhere, anyplace, anyhow to come and dialogue with me. I believe you will never try it becos u people don't have proof from ur Bibles unless u can produce original bible not translated one.

nwando: This was me back in the days when we rocked this joint
I wish I still had the energy


https://www.nairaland.com/107465/5-versions-arabic-koran. This thread is a must-read.read pilgrim,a former muslim do justice to it

https://www.nairaland.com/264305/correct-way-beat-wife

https://www.nairaland.com/328245/black-man-allah

https://www.nairaland.com/300031/when-did-allah-say-bible

https://www.nairaland.com/281140/only-religion-earth-kills-duty

You are poinless and you don't have anything to say. Have u accepted what I challenged u for? With my proof, .that there is no trinity and is bible holy? And if you accept that let's open another trend to challenge us.
I don't have time to read any trend just open another trend to challenge me and pls if you see any contradiction in Quran of any case against Islam, go and learn arabic b4 anything. That's only thing that make islam remain ORIGINAL ARABIC QURAN today unlike Bible that has no original bible

dejgan: @ayenny02....make I help you add pepper to pain you well.....Jesus is not the only son of God....Me (even me) and all those who believe in Jesus are sons of God....it that truth hurts badly...go hug transformer cos the devil himself has not recovered from that simple truth.....lo ba tan!

So jesus no be God again? Are u accepted that u bible is not Holy too?

Michael King: U know what we CHRISTIAN dont have to argue with you muslim we are different and what is our life with you muslim
CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A RELIGION but you people claim saying we serve the same god
We serve JEHOVAH and you serve allah,
We honour LORD JESUS, but you honour mohamed,
We shout ALLELUYAH but you allau akbau, Those Judasim are much than you muslim why cant u trouble them
We have a great different between us, we got nothing to do with your so called religion, our law is different from yours.
Just leave us alone KAABAH worshiper we dont know you!!!!!!!
CHRIST I KNOW WHO IS YOUR SO CALLED allah.

Who told u we served d same God, if don't have anything to proof urself, u better go and sleep. Tell me who is jehovah, jesus and tell me ur law?
And who are d judaism? If you get it I will give u one Quran as a gift

Mintayo: 1 John 2: 20-23 (NLT)
20. But you are not like that,for the Holy one has given you His Spirit, and all of You know that truth
21. So i am writing to you not that you don't know the truth but you know the difference between TRUTH AND LIES.
22. AND WHO IS A LIAR, ANYONE THAT SAY JESUS IS NOT CHRSIT (MESSIAH). ANYONE WHO DENIES THE FATHER AND THE SON IS AN ANTICHRIST.
23. ANYONE WHO DENIES THE SON DOESN'T HAVE THE FATHER(GOD) EITHER. BUT ANYONE WHO ACKNOWLEGDE THE SON,HAS THE FATHER ALSO.

God Bless us all.

I hope you have problem let me continue with, you no won hear word abi?

Long b4 jesus was born God said to David
Psalm 2:7
7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

So david is also God's begotten son. The meaning of son of God is not literal but metaphorical. It can be any one who is beloved by God. Jesus said that God is not only his father but also yoir father

Matthew 5:45
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Matthew 5:48
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

So you will see many passage in bible. 'Son of God' which signified love and affection, nearest to God, not applied to Jesus alone. Yoi ll see son and daughter of God;

2 Corinthians 6:18
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

There is no reason why Jesus shud be regarded as Son of God in a literal sense

Mintayo: 1 John 5:10-12 (NLT)

10. All those who believe in the Son of God knows this testimony is true. Those who don't believe are actually calling God a liar because they don't believe what God has testify about His Son.
11. And this is what God has testified: HE HAS GIVEN US ETERNAL LIFE AND THIS LIFE IS IN HIS SON.
12. WHOEVER HAS THE SON HAS LIFE; WHOEVER DOES NOT HAVE GOD'S SON DOES NOT HAVE LIFE.

Mr Man go and Sleep don't contradict urself again, no be u quote verses say jesus be God and I proof against you, now u come bring another quote of son of God again. I sorry for u from the same bible again. Infact if na me I will go and commit suicide, can't you see how you proof urself wrong again. Shame!!!

Ada Nri1: you're wrong! There's only one chapel in ATBU, but from what you said, you've answered my earlier question. Muslims hate to see the gathering of the children of God in the name of our lord Jesus Christ.

Children of God, how many children God born self? A beg answer me o

Mintayo: 1 John 4:3-6(NLT)

3- But if someone claims to be a prophet and does not acknowledge the truth about Jesus Christ, that person is not from God. Such person has the spirit of ANTICHRIST,which you heard is coming to the world and indeed is already here.
4- But you belong to God, my dear children. You have already won victory over those people,because the Spirit that lives in you is greater than the spirit that live in the world.
5- those people belong to this world and they speak from the world point of view andthe world listen to them.
6- BUT WE BELONG TO GOD, AND THOSE WHO KNOW GOD LISTEN TO US. IF THEY DO NOT BELONG TO GOD THEY DO NOT LISTEN TO US. THAT IS HOW WE KNOW IF SOMEONE HAS THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH OR THE SPIRIT OF DECEPTION.

You don't have proof MR MAN and you people are antichrist because you don't believe in doctrine of jesus except paul which is anti christ or you want me to go intoto for you. The more you talked, the more you rope urself

Mintayo: nawa for you o, i will not reply you again,i can see you are blind,you quote just Luke 1:26-27 and said that it was gabriel that was sent to mary and He is the Holy Spirit...what about that same Luke 1:35
And the Angel answered and said to her, ''The HOLY SPIRIT will come upon you and the power of the most high will overshadow you:therefore also,that Holy one who is to be born will be called the SON OF GOD.

Shame on you.
I will tell you again even though i know you can't fathom it-Jesus is the son of God and He is God.
The Holy Spirit(the Spirit of God,the Father) entered mary and gave birth to Jesus,hence Jesus is God.
Good night,Jesus loves you no matter what you people do,accept Him today.

If there are two conflicting verses, then only one can be true; both can never be true or both are wrong

Jesus is God according to john 1:1. Then how many Gods are there? Two at least. This is then is in contradiction with many passages in the bible:

Deuteronomy 4:39
39 Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the Lord he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

Deuteronomy 6:4
4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:

Check Isaiah 43:10-11, 45:18, Exodus 8:10 and many more

FROM NEW TESTAMENT;

Mark 12:29
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

1 Timothy 2:5
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Now you can either say that John 1:1 is right and all these other verses are wrong, or the reverse

ACCEPT ISLAM TODAY !!!

Mintayo: nawa for you o, i will not reply you again,i can see you are blind,you quote just Luke 1:26-27 and said that it was gabriel that was sent to mary and He is the Holy Spirit...what about that same Luke 1:35
And the Angel answered and said to her, ''The HOLY SPIRIT will come upon you and the power of the most high will overshadow you:therefore also,that Holy one who is to be born will be called the SON OF GOD.

Shame on you.
I will tell you again even though i know you can't fathom it-Jesus is the son of God and He is God.
The Holy Spirit(the Spirit of God,the Father) entered mary and gave birth to Jesus,hence Jesus is God.
Good night,Jesus loves you no matter what you people do,accept Him today.

I know you will run away after the truth has cleared to you. Don't forget on sunday to ask all those proof from ur pastor maybe be he would tell u the truth.

If there are two conflicting verses, then only one can be true; both can never be true or both are wrong

Mintayo: he did not dogde,you are the one twisting the Bible...check my comments again and stop twisting the Bible,i don do that for u...check again my comment.

Twisting Bible from ur mouth after clear proof from ur Bible. I believe you will never have any contrary view on what I have explained but if you do, you want to contradict ur bible and that's reason I said can we called bible a holy book? If you bring another proof again, u are coming to the conclusion that bible is not holy but I still chanllege you that;
ARE U SURE THAT D BIBLE IS HOLY?

tintingz: ^ ayenny02 I throway salute sir!! you are really teaching your students(christians) bible study...

Welldone, May Allah(swt) increase you in knowledge and other muslim that contributed in this thread... Amin!

Amin my brother. We thanked Allah that give us islam as a religion

Mintayo: there is no way i will explain that you will get it because you lack the Spirit of God within you,you will only end up twisting or argueing further.
But just to let you know not proof as you have been shouting since morning-

(2 Cor 13:14)
The Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ(the son), the love of God(father) and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit(His Spirit) be with us now and forever more. Amen

look at it this way- Jesus was born by the Holy Spirit of God(if u believ that) and He became Jesus-so you see Jesus is God.
That is,It was the Spirit of God that entered Mary and she gave birth to Jesus(the son).
(the quran even said so,that Jesus is God's Spirit)

If you don't that,then...

If you can't explain it very well, I will explain it for you because you don't understand your bible and ur religion.

Jesus said in john
John 4:24
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
And in
John 5:37
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

Also paul that misleading u people said;
1 Timothy 6:16
16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

That is God from jesus and paul

Now about holy spirit;

Matthew 1:18
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

COMPARE NOW WITH LUKE 1:26-27

Luke 1:26-27
26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,

27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

So in miraculous birth of jesus, mattew mentioned the Holy Ghost and luke mentioned the angel Gabriel. What is the Holy Spirit then?

Do you still believe in trinity now?

So God is God, the Holy spirit or holy ghost is Angel Gabriel and Jesus is........ (What) from my explaination, if u get it I WILL GIVE U ONE COPY OF QURAN unless you contradict ur Bible

black male: This fool is just clowning himsef

Don't dodge my question. What is holy spirit?

Mintayo: there is no way i will explain that you will get it because you lack the Spirit of God within you,you will only end up twisting or argueing further.
But just to let you know not proof as you have been shouting since morning-

(2 Cor 13:14)
The Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ(the son), the love of God(father) and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit(His Spirit) be with us now and forever more. Amen

look at it this way- Jesus was born by the Holy Spirit of God(if u believ that) and He became Jesus-so you see Jesus is God.
That is,It was the Spirit of God that entered Mary and she gave birth to Jesus(the son).
(the quran even said so,that Jesus is God's Spirit)

If you don't that,then...

What is holy spirit?

black male: I don't have to prove sh.it to you...God+Jesus+Holyspirit = 1...You worship one,you worship all. That's why Christianity and islam are 2 parallel lines that can never meet. They've got noffin in common.

Tell me in ur bible where God+jesus+holyspirit=1

nwando: I don't cast precious pearls to the swine,they have no need of it

As it says in Matthew


"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

Pele
I refuse to bite

Am sorry for u, I asked u to explained ur trinity and come here saying jagons

nwando: God said this to Isaiah the prophet
How can Allah and Od be same when Allah never said any such thing





Or this in Psalms
Allah has no father nature

If not the Quran that explained how jesus was born and sent, infact u people will be misleading people from ur bible. You bible call jesus, son of god, it also called him god, it also called him teacher, it also called him messiah etc.
The Islamic view of Jesus lies between two extremes. The Jews , who rejected Jesus as a Prophet of God, called him an impostor. The Christians, on the other hand, considered him to be the son of God and worship him as such. Islam considers Jesus to be one of the great prophets of God and respects him as much as Ibrahim (Abraham), Moses, and Mohammed. (Peace Be Upon Them) This is conformity with the Islamic view of the oneness of God, the oneness of Divine guidance, and the complementary role of the subsequent mission of God's messengers. It is only quran said correct thing which Quran 3:45-45;
 (Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God).  He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be).  God creates what He wills.  If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.”  (Quran, 3:45-47)

seekermi: Thanks bozz....but our certificate is not yet ready and I wanna travel immediately after my NYSC in Novemeber

You can go to Dubai without ur certificate, just go with ur statement of result becos I have many friends and brother there that were working without their certificate and get better offer. What they need is experience