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Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump's 'Past' Tweet Causes Uproar Over The Correctness Of His Grammar by AZeD1(m): 6:20pm On Jan 21, 2018

lowaist101:
They are just criticising him over this for nothing. I don't fancy his calling us 'Shithole'. But look at it, the word passed is pronounced /past/. I think that must have warranted the use of it, though mistakenly!

A lot of them are critical of him because of his behaviour during Obama's presidency.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump's 'Past' Tweet Causes Uproar Over The Correctness Of His Grammar by AZeD1(m): 6:17pm On Jan 21, 2018

ReubenE:
I have to agree with your position, judging from historical events in the US.
However, it is yet to happen with Donald Trump. At least, I can tell that the American economy currently has good performance indicators.

The Republican party is only trying to call a dog a bad name in order to slaughter it. This budget deadlock has more political undertone than national interest.

I have to say too that Trump is not helping matters because he is not building bridges.....

Give it time.
Due to the tax cuts, the feds would most likely raise interest rates to prevent inflation, then the corporations would pass the bill down to consumers and the cycle continues.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump's 'Past' Tweet Causes Uproar Over The Correctness Of His Grammar by AZeD1(m): 6:13pm On Jan 21, 2018

naijapips04:
which of them? And it had to wait till Obama left office to start manifesting? Throughout obama's 8 years we saw nothing.

Libtards can be funny.

I'm pretty sure America's economy has been on an upward trend since 2009.
Obama left unemployment rate at 4%.

The data is there. You are free to believe what you want.

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 4:18pm On Jan 20, 2018

ivandragon:
why should I waste more of my time posting links you obviously have a hard time digesting the ones I earlier posted & which addressed the issues you raised?

its like pouring water in a wicket basket... futile effort...

well, I leave you to your opinions...

Lol you just being posting things you have no idea about.

1st you said Fashola lied (which you haven't proven)
2nd you said NNPC is spending money on subsidy then post an NNPC link in which NNPC said they are not.

You need to take a course in Logic.

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 2:57pm On Jan 20, 2018

ivandragon:
on your last sentence, read Fashola... lol...

look, you are just beating around the bush on this matter. from Fashola, you shifted to NNPC not needing approval of NAss to pay subsidy & that has been emphatically proven to be false, from there you have shifted it to asking if subsidy is being paid... evidence from various quarters has been provided that subsidy is been paid. however you wish to put it, the price of fuel is being subsidised by a certain amount... same government has said they have paid over N700b subsidising fuel..

so I really don't know what you are yammering on about...

the bottom lines are;

1. Fashola needs to clarify what he told NAss about zero performance for works in the 2017 appropriation... Fact!

Read the twitter link I posted, it explains everything. Fashola said zero new capital projects.

2. NNPC, as a government agency, despite your roundabout postulations, requires appropriation from NAss for expenses just as any other government agency...
Fact!!!

Can you please point that out in the NNPC act? Adding the word fact doesn't make it a fact. Back it up with relevant laws.
PS: Buhari is the first president to submit the budget of the NNPC to the National Assembly.

any other turenchi you speak is out of order.

sometimes the better part is to accept you read a situation wrong.

I once had cause to make a statement on NL which was not a true reflection of the subject matter... my attention was called to it in the usual crude & heartless manner of NLanders... rather than argue aimlessly, I took my comment down & tendered an unreserved apology... case closed...

you should humble yourself & either do same, or just slouch away...

p.s.

try to understand the administration usage of morality & legality...

morally, the FG, through NNPC can decide to pay subsidy in order to reduce the discomfort a further price increase will bring in an economy still in battered by dumb policies...

legally, they need to seek authorisation to pay the subsidy...(The NNPC act says the NNPC can spend the money it makes.....no authorization.)

bottom line is that where there is a clear rule/regulation/law, morality does not arise... the law must be followed...

if there are no clear laws or inferential regulations governing a matter, morality may come into play...

Travel › Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by AZeD1(m): 2:30pm On Jan 20, 2018

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Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 1:55pm On Jan 20, 2018

ivandragon:
running around in circles seems to be your talent...

let us start with the sub-initial bone of contention...

you said NNPC does not need authorisation from NAss to pay subsidy...

I said NNPC needs to get approval from NAss & the NNPC has come out to say so...

so, what exactly is your direction about paying subsidy or not? I have given you various comments by the FG & NNPC saying subsidy is being paid...

Baru himself said Buhari ordered it... so what exactly is your point?

just admit your erred on the NNPC not needing authorisation to pay subsidy & let it slide... we learn everyday...

1) The NNPC'S statement said they are not paying subsidy.(you posted that link).
2) The NNPC'S statement said only the National Assembly can appropriate subsidy.

This Nullifies the statement that Buhari ordered them to pay subsidy because of 1 and two above.

Now back to the issue:
Is the NNPC subsidizing PMS and How can they do it with the National Assembly.

1) Yes the NNPC is subsidizing PMS
2) They are doing it without calling it Subsidy because the law allows them to do that. As an example, let's say the law says an agency cannot buy a Spade without recourse to the National Assembly but the agency needs to buy one and for some reason they want to get one, they would get a "farm implement" because while they law says they can't buy a spade, it didn't say they can't buy a farm implement.

Osibanjo was the person who said the government isn't paying subsidiy, that the NNPC is.
The argument was what's the difference between the government and NNPC (especially here on nairaland). The difference is the NNPC act that allows the NNPC to spend what it makes ( reason why Presidents use NNPC as their personal bank)

There's a difference between morality and legality. The government just used the bogusness of the law for political gain.

You need to understand the technicalities of the law. It's how politicians get off corruption cases.

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 1:10pm On Jan 20, 2018

ivandragon:
https://nairametrics.com/buhari-ordered-nnpc-to-pay-subsidy-on-fuel/

http://www.nigerianmonitor.com/osinbajo-says-nnpc-bears-cost-of-subsidy-not-fg-nigerian-monitor/

http://dailypost.ng/2018/01/19/pay-subsidy-without-national-assemblys-permission-nnpc/

I think I have 'endured' your daftness enough...

have a nice weekend.

But your NNPC says they are not subsidizing PMS? From your article this is what NNPC said
" there was under-recovery in the importation and sale of PMS by NNPC, but the burden is categorized as business losses which the Act establishing NNPC recognizes."

So the question stands: Is PMS subsidized? (Yes / no)

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 12:59pm On Jan 20, 2018

ivandragon:
"NNPC wishes to disabuse the minds of its numerous publics to disregard the statement incorrectly attributed to Mr. Ajiya as it represents neither PPMC nor the NNPC’s position on the subject.

The corporation is alive to the critical roles the National Assembly statutorily plays in the administration of the Nigerian Oil and Gas Sector and would, therefore, not undermine the legislators in their legitimate business".

look, your acting daft is irritating.

if you can't read & understand simple statements, why don't you just keep shut rather than exposing your underbelly...

Simple question is PMS subsidized?

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 12:48pm On Jan 20, 2018

ivandragon:
now am certain you can't understand what you read...

sorry...

For the avoidance of doubt, Mr. Ajiya who was a guest at the Channels Television programme, Sunrise, today, explained that there was under-recovery in the importation and sale of PMS by NNPC, but the burden is categorized as business losses which the Act establishing NNPC recognizes.

Mr. Ajiya had made it explicitly clear that the losses from the PMS imports by NNPC could not be classified as subsidy since it was not appropriated for by the National Assembly.

This is the same thing as saying we did not buy a spade, we bought a farm implement.

Is PMS subsidized in Nigeria ?

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 8:46am On Jan 20, 2018

ivandragon:
now that NNPC has 'disowned' you, what do you have to say?

http://nnpcgroup.com/PublicRelations/NNPCinthenews/tabid/92/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/945/Only-National-Assembly-Can-Appropriate-on-General-Subsidy-Says-NNPC.aspx

https://www.thecable.ng/nnpc-national-assembly-can-appropriate-subsidy

3 things you should imbibe:

1. learn not to argue blindly;

2. always err on the side of justice, fair play, consistency & sensible logic. that way, you will always toe a straight path & not be deceived by personalities...

3. some of us here are not as childish as you are. we are in positions to know exactly what is going on & what certain comments by government officials actually imply below the surface...

the beauty of NL is its anonymity it gives, but that is also its greatest albatross because every tom, dick & harry has an opinion no matter how illogical...

Lol did you read the article?

Travel › Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by AZeD1(m): 5:27am On Jan 20, 2018

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Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 5:04am On Jan 20, 2018

ivandragon:
as usual, you don't read to understand...

you are talking of new projects... new or old, Fashola needs to account for the N90b simple.

look, just take whatever ails you elsewhere. EFCC fails to give account of looted funds, you will support... NNPC has spent over N700b on supposed fuel subsidy without appropriation, you will support...

tomorrow you will open your trap & say you want accountability in governance...

when NAss hides their budget breakdown, you will be the 1st to scream corruption, now because it is your preferred thief, you find excuses...

I leave you to your flawed antics...

If you had read the link, you'd see where it was stated that Perm Sec's are the one's that issue cheques in Ministries. First you said Fashola lied, now you have jumped to accounting for the money.

If you want to know where the money is, invoke the FOI law. Be proactive, making noise on Nairaland won't help.

Like I said earlier, you really do not have an idea of how government works. Read the NNPC act
http://www.nigeria-law.org/Nigerian%20National%20Petroleum%20Corporation%20Act.htm

For Emphasis,

(4) The Corporation shall maintain a fund which shall consist of-

(a) such moneys as may from time to time be provided by the Federal Government for the purposes of this Act by way of grants or loans or otherwise howsoever; and

(b) such moneys as may be received by the Corporation in the course of its operations or in relation to the exercise by the Corporation of any of its functions under this Act, and from such fund there shall be defrayed all expenses incurred by the Corporation.

(5) The Corporation shall submit to the National Council of Ministers not later than three months before the end of each financial year estimates of its expenditure and income relating to the next following financial year.

8. (1) Subject to the other provisions of this section, the Corporation may from time to time borrow by overdraft or otherwise howsoever such sums as it may require in the exercise of its functions under this Act.

(2) The Corporation shall not, without the approval of the National Council of Ministers, borrow any sum of money whereby the amount in aggregate outstanding on any loan or loans at any time exceeds such amount as is for the time being specified by the National Council of Ministers.

The Law gives NNPC the power to spend the money it makes, if the NNPC needs to borrow money, it goes to the FEC for approval not the senate.

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 11:42pm On Jan 19, 2018

ivandragon:
lol...

funny thing is most of you kids think everyone is a lowlife like yourself on NL.

too bad...

Go and educate yourself.
https://mobile.twitter.com/DrJoeAbah/status/954392567256317953

Politics › Re: Why We Pay ‘subsidy’ Without National Assembly’s Permission – NNPC by AZeD1(m): 8:21pm On Jan 19, 2018

Xtopher123:

Even at that there's a law forbidding NNPC to run at loss..

You what to tell me VP's statement shouldn't be taken literally..?

I seriously do not know what you're defending here

Can you point out the law?

Has NNPC ever generated a profit?

Politics › Re: Why We Pay ‘subsidy’ Without National Assembly’s Permission – NNPC by AZeD1(m): 8:08pm On Jan 19, 2018

SalamRushdie:
When you find out LCs are drawn at special CBN rates it knocks out the argument of Naira slump..Bro if you know tkind of corruption and roundtripping going on in the current fuel import racket you will faint.

I know there's corruption involved but during the scarcity, it was only NNPC involved in importing.
So they're not paying subsidy, just running at a loss.

There's a reason the VP said the government wasn't paying subsidy but NNPC was.

Politics › Re: Why We Pay ‘subsidy’ Without National Assembly’s Permission – NNPC by AZeD1(m): 7:57pm On Jan 19, 2018

SalamRushdie:
Questions begging for answers here because from the understanding of Nigerians the govt had removed any subsidy completely hence the price of 145 per litre , so now that it has been confirmed that the govt is paying 26 naira as subsidy once more (same amount Jonathan was paying as subsidy when crude oil was 100 dollars a barrel) shouldn't the price of petrol go back to 87 naira at the pumps as against the 145 we are still paying..

Nope.
Dude you are way smarter than this don't join those who criticize for doing sake.

A Dollar was 165 during GEJ's time, now it's 365. What you bought at 85 Naira then cost way more then that now.

Politics › Re: Why We Pay ‘subsidy’ Without National Assembly’s Permission – NNPC by AZeD1(m): 7:52pm On Jan 19, 2018

TonyeBarcanista:
This is preposterous

Oga remember when I posted this

In theory there is no subsidy payment. It's just the NNPC running on a loss and there's law against the NNPC running a loss.

I'm not holding brief for Buhari but since NNPC is the one importing the fuel, then who are they paying the money to

and you responded with

TonyeBarcanista: Which NNPC is importing and why go off key? So Who did Baru give money to? My grandfather abi?

Meanwhile, which law permit the President to appropriate funds without recourse to the National Assembly?

Best advice I ever received
There's a difference between morality and legality understand it and know when to apply it.

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 2:38pm On Jan 19, 2018

Keballl:
Your point is well understood and valid, [b]but we are aware anyone can use the excuse of ignorance to lie. [/b]That is what smart people do in order not to be sanctioned or called out.

He alluded his gross incompetency to when budgets were passed and the senators brought him to light that some funds were carried over to 2017.

In other words, Fashola had no valid excuse under the sun for his zero capital implementation which means he was dishonest.

Hopefully, he will do better in his next appearance with the senators.

Fashola is a lawyer, he knows what he is saying and he won't incriminate himself.

To catch a thief, think like a thief.

Anyway enough of the technicalities (which our politicians use when arraigned).
Have a good day.

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 2:07pm On Jan 19, 2018

Keballl:
As citizens we do fact checks whether the print media do their jobs or not. We take the discourse beyond what is presented by asking probing questions for more clarity.

The article alludes to one thing. Fashola was unprepared for the job he was assigned to do. I only blame him for overestimating his capacity to manage 3 super ministries.

How can a minister not be aware that capital projects under his portfolio in 2016 were carried over to 2017 and same thing will happen in 2018, with a carry over of 2017 projects based on what Kemi Adeosun proposed last year November.

There should be a synergy between the finance ministry and other MDAs.

He said he didn't know the amount carried over and that's ignorance not lying.
If he was arraigned for lying, the court would set him free based on something like this.

Call it incompetence I'll agree with you, but don't say he lied especially when you can't prove it.

The dude I quoted stated that Fashola lied because Adeosun said money was released but Fashola acknowledged the release.

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 1:45pm On Jan 19, 2018

Keballl:
Good. We are getting somewhere. Fashola as the minister should have knowledge of what was expended and what were returned.

It is gross incompetency to go to the senate unprepared especially when his story doesn't match what the DMO office said with respect to released capital expenditure and the bold claims of the finance Minister.

You need to read the article again. Fashola wasn't asked if money was returned. He also said his ministry got money in August.

What he said he didn't know, was project rollover.

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 1:09pm On Jan 19, 2018

Keballl:
Lolz will you stop arguing. Even last year unspent funds were mopped up. It's standard practice here. It has always been so irrespective of when budgets are passed.

Agencies make do with their internally generally IGR until government subventions comes, then they balance the account.

According to you, unspent funds were moped, so can you point out were Fashola lied?

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 12:12pm On Jan 19, 2018

Keballl:
December is the end of calendar year and all unspent funds are returned or mopped up before it runs out.

Standard practice in government financed institutions in Nigeria.

The Nigerian budget year used to run along side the Calendar year until recently.
That's why unspent funds were moped up in December.

Since a new budget hasn't been passed, what would Government agencies run on if they returned monies in December?

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 11:31am On Jan 19, 2018

Keballl:
You know absolutely nothing.. At the end of every year all unused funds are mopped up. One of the reasons why MDA Perm. Secs. /Directors before the advent of TSA were balling real hard spending every budgetary allocations in their reach to avoid "waste" according to them.

Go and sit down boy and stop defending nonsense.

At the end of the budget year not Calendar year.

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 10:07am On Jan 19, 2018

Keballl:
A very stupid question.

Because you are your friend have no clue as to how Government works.
Let me help you out,

Since the 2018 budget hasn't been signed, Nigeria is still officially in the 2017 budget cycle.
Money released for a particular year would stay with the Ministry/MDA till the end of the budget cycle before it can be returned or in most times be rolled over.

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 9:07am On Jan 19, 2018

Keballl:
Off course, Since Fashola "doesn't sign cheques" he can never be accountable for budgetary allocations under his portfolio.

The nonsense we see on nairaland daily.

Has the 2018 budget being signed?

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 8:35am On Jan 19, 2018

Keballl:
You clearly don't or else you won't be defending nonsense.

Yeah , the 90b was paid to Fashola's personal account, so he has to return it.

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 8:20am On Jan 19, 2018

ivandragon:
so no capital project was executed or paid for in 2017?

even existing capital projects were not paid for?

& if he couldn't utilise the funds, had it been returned to FG coffers?

the Senate asked about PERFORMANCE of the budget, even the rolled over ones.

& yes he is lying, for reasons best known to him. what was N90b used for? at least he should either be able to point to how/where the money was spent or show it has been returned.

most of you don't know what it means to be accountable...

Lol at the bold part.

You really have no idea how government works.

Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 9:16pm On Jan 18, 2018

ivandragon:
lol...

is today slow readers day?

Adeosun made the statement in September which is what I obviously referred to...

so what's your headache?

all these jumping jacks that keep butting in discussions they have no idea of...

Your assertion was that Fashola was lying because Adeosun said money was released to him.

This is what you said
"the lying liar has forgotten that Adeosun said N90b was released to his ministry in September 2017."

You called him a liar when he didn't lie.

Who is the slow reader?

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Politics › Re: Works Ministry Executed No Capital Project In 2017, Says Fashola by AZeD1(m): 1:59pm On Jan 18, 2018

ivandragon:
the lying liar has forgotten that Adeosun said N90b was released to his ministry in September 2017.

pmb who is the chief liar & deceiver surrounded himself with his like minds...

Actually Fashola said his ministry got money in August.

Are you sure you can read?

Politics › Re: FFK Blasts CNN For Reporting That Herdsmen Attack Is A Clash Over Piece Of Land by AZeD1(m): 8:03pm On Jan 16, 2018

Ola514:
are they still reporting it?
what did they do about it?

What are they supposed to do?

They sent a reporter undercover and got the report out. That's their work.

Are you expecting them to arrest someone?

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Health › Re: ABUAD Signs Mou With Dubai Hospital To End Overseas Medical Tourism by AZeD1(m): 6:34pm On Jan 16, 2018

Nigerians don't travel fit treatment because of lack of doctors, they travel because there are no equipments.

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