₦airaland Forum

chess guru: Guy pipe down and relax before you blow an artery. Anybody that says GEJ has performed is either blind or sick.
But what I am asking is for you 2 define ur role as a nigerian citizen. So you pay ur taxes, good. What other responsibility do you have?
How many times have u seen illegality in ur vicinity and tried 2 do something about it (no matter how pointless it might appear)
How many times have u seen something wrong, and looked the other way, or corrected that person.
We all know the responsibility of this failing govt, but I ask what is yours?
When you can answer that, then you will know that development i is everybodys business not J̶̲̥̅̊u̶̲̥̅̊S̤̥̈̊τ̲̣̣̥ one mans business.

mosun_ade: LOL. So, you slam your foot on the gas pedal in an intersection with the red lights on and you jam another car head on, and you blame it on one corrupt person somewhere and not on yourself cos you acted foolishly? LOL. SMH. You overrun your speedometer and you have a blow out and die in the process and blame it on the corrupt tendencies of some faceless people? Haba.

You drive with a bottle of Henessey in your glove compartment, sipping it at intervals and you sleep off and ran into the bush and die in the process and then blame it on some politicians somewhere or on some law enforcement? Chuo.

Now, take GEJ out of the picture and think hard to see if you are making sense.

chess guru: Nigerians and fear of responsibility. Okay sir, if I may asked what is YOUR responsibility to the country.
When last did you do an ounce of community service 2 correct something in your locality.
To people like you, JF kennedy must have been high on some strong weed whn he said we shld not ask what our govt can do for us, but what we can do for our govt.
U still leave in an utopian world where an all powerful leader like moses will come with a magic wand nd fix the over 40 year infestation and propagation of corruption. Ur job is J̶̲̥̅̊u̶̲̥̅̊S̤̥̈̊τ̲̣̣̥ 2 seat behind the sweet confines of ur room and point fingers at ur scapegoat jonathan, forgetting that the rest of ur fingers are pointing back at you.
Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt that GEJ has not lived up 2 expectation (even though some peoples expectation were J̶̲̥̅̊u̶̲̥̅̊S̤̥̈̊τ̲̣̣̥ to utopian to begin with), it is my strong belief that the difference btw so many people accusing govt officials of corruption and them, is J̶̲̥̅̊u̶̲̥̅̊S̤̥̈̊τ̲̣̣̥ OPPORTUNITY.
The average nigerian (by virtue of society) is selfish, self centered, and has no patriotic zeal or no interest.
This is the ATTITUDE that we must collectively change.
Even if all d govt officials were rounded up 2day for corruption, who are the people going in 2 replace them?
In other to enter the university, u bribed ur way in (while still pointing @ corruption in high places)
In other 2 pass ur exams u 'sorted'(while still pointing @ corruption in high places)
Whn u where departmental president u stole the little that came ur way(while still pointing @ corruption in high places)
Whn u where in SUG u stole again, the increased sum that came ur way(while still pointing @ corruption in high places).
The same thing whn u started working in a bank, or whn u had to get that contract.
Whn u became local govt charman nko?
So what can we expect of the new public officials even if all the present ones are arested for corruption?
At best they will devise more prudent ways of stealing, that's why the only 2 change is not J̶̲̥̅̊u̶̲̥̅̊S̤̥̈̊τ̲̣̣̥ by arresting a few, but by changing the attitude and mentality of the majority.

X-factoria:
Many of us are just so quick to jump to conclusions or are just so unintelligent to make logical inferences.

GEJ did not say corruption is not a problem. He said our attitude is a bigger problem and I agree with him. Our attitude in Nigeria makes corruption thrive. We hail rogues who steal from government and when they are caught, we ask "are they the only ones?". Some people do nothing when they see corrupt practices and just wait for their own time and opportunity. How can we fight corruption successfully if we do not have the right attitude?

Your brother/sister/neighbour is living beyond his/her means and rather than query them, you ask to them to show you how to do it better or share part of their corrupt riches.

GEJ is right on this.

AjanleKoko: Ah. Explains it then. Pele



You're right. I do worry about my age. As well as what the future holds for cretins like you, which doesn't seem bright.

kevyngbash: Jonathan got it.
Attitude to everythng is our problem. We need to be positive and be selfless most of the time

kolokolobi: The fact that individuals have gone to jail and corporations have paid hefty fines for bribing Nigerians and gej has done nada is really an attitudinal problem. The one who has this problem is the spineless leader that has been looking the other way...gej himself. PERIOD.

chess guru: And what if I told u that our attitude to corruption is even the reason why that same corruption is still so prevalent in our country.
Whn I was in ss3, a teacher jokingly asked how many of us would steal money if we had the chance in public office. U won't believe that 90% of us raise our hands. Even as kids I cld still remember some of the comments we were saying back then..'No dulling', 'na who want carry last'..and we where not more than 18 @ the time.
My point is that since the time of our fathers, people have been shouting about corruption. Governments have come and gone, yet we are still shouting about the same corruption.
My conclusion is that the leadership of this country is perpetually corrupt, because the follower-ship of this country (from where these future leaders are drawn from) is also corrupt.
Its d corrupt ATTITUDE of the people that sustains corruption in every government or administration.
They are currently stealing in billions, but I daresay that there are people outside pointing fingers @ d govt that have the potential 2 steal in trillions

AjanleKoko: GEJ should be different from an average Nigerian?

How old are you, son?

chess guru: slowpoke sharaaaaap!! Come 2 port harcourt nd see driving @ its worst!!. How in d world will good governance be better than common sense. Come and you will see that, its only a machine gun (army or police) that can make people behave over here. In warri the same thing. Are we animals?
Can we J̶̲̥̅̊u̶̲̥̅̊S̤̥̈̊τ̲̣̣̥ do what is right without, being, Or told trying 2 cut corners even on the road?.
Ow many tanker drivers driver without d influence?
Ow many road accidents are caused by bad roads, and ow many are caused by mad drivers? Or shld GEJ come 2 d road nd test each nd every1 of them.
Our biggest problem is our attitude!!
That's why GEJ style of leadership doesn't suit this country now. Mayb in future not now.
We really need a dictaor in civilian attire that can forcefully change the mentality of some nigerians.
We ave leaved in abnormality for so long that d abnormal is normal.
That's why some times I don't blame fashola for some of the things he does.
Sadly, FORCE IS THE ONLY LANGUAGE WE UNDERSTAND.

mosun_ade: Begin to interpret what was said na, so it can suit your argument. Where did GEJ say attitude is the main problem?

"The president rejected the submission and instead retorted, “If Nigerians would change their attitude, you will realise that most of these issues being attributed to corruption are not caused by corruption."

Only crude people wait for them to be beaten black and blue before doing the right thing. Must you be told not to drive on the opposite side of traffic? I bet you will say thats also because of corruption not because of people's bad attitude to legal driving.

mosun_ade: So if Fashola says white is white, and GEJ says the same thing, then GEJ is not saying the right thing? Haba.

Try to reason objectively, it doesnt reduce your worth.

mosun_ade: If Fashola is or was right, why is GEJ being castigated?

Alex J: Attitude answers those. Mr President didn't say or suggest that he is free from that problem. He just stated a general truth.

OsunOriginal: Shut up your evil mouth... Are you telling me the terrible state of our roads is not caused by corruption? Are Nigerians reckless drivers or drunkards?

GEJ should stop ambarrasing us. Government should fix all roads first and you can then begin to blame subsequent accidents on reckless driving or attitude.

Ngwakwe: If I own a Private Motorcycle, can I ride it at will as Private Jeep Owners?

Ngwakwe: Why not ban Jeeps and Private Cars and promote Public Transport only. Na because only poor people de ride am.

Why is the Government banning Private Motorcycle

Rubbish

fr_evangel: I never called any one urchin, I just said "it seems" that's because of the way you guys communicate!
Also, [b][/b]Urchin is not a vulgar word (like fool, idiot, retard, and so on), here's the meaning: "a mischievous roguish child, esp one who is young, small, or raggedly dressed".

I dont have problem with your opinion, but if you will go through many political threads, and read through most anti-GEJ/PDP supporters' comments, you will understand my thought.

PS: PDP supporters are not exonerated but its mostly the ACN supporters that behave this way. Its a trend that has almost made me stop visiting Nairaland!

aguiyi: you contradicting urself.

there is no endevour in life were there are no hazards which could result in the lose of life and property.if i may ask, when was the last time we recorded such incident in Nigeria to now warrant fashola trash ulterances.

manny4life: I don't mean to sound insensitive, but people die not because of the profession, but lack of proper regulation and guidance on the profession. Do you know how many unreported accidents that happen daily? Do you know how many die in hospitals because of medical neglect?

If I've learned anything, attacking the symptoms does not solve the host issue while it persist. Illness create the symptoms and not symptoms causing sickness. If the govt had taken more proactive steps in stringent regulation of the industry, perhaps there would be less accidents. Regulation may include, reinforced training and certification, and licensing, Coop meetings and enhancements, system audits and reporting, etc.

If the govt states that each Okada rider have medical/life insurance like it's done here say policy of $5,000 in case of accident involving injury and $10,000 involving death, and Okada pays the monthly premium or they post an insurance bond to the govt, that will make a lot of people leave voluntarily rather than the govt imposing it. This way, he's creating more economic activity. More business for insurance companies, hospitals will get on the insurance programs, the less folks who exited will leave room for enhanced robust environment.

If we continue to live with Fashola's mentality, we're simply gonna be tying ourselves bound YET calling the devil

manny4life: Starting with the most recent of not too long ago - the OKADA BAN. You will not agree with, I already know, and we'll both save the argument but that policy has hurt a lot of people, economically, financially, socially, mentally, than normal.

olagamalin: Anencephalic person , He is more popular than your entire family et generation combined...oponu

manny4life: This excerpt is a true definition of Gov. Fashola and what he's turning into - Authoritarian.

You cannot govern people without listening to them "FIRST", several of his policies are causing more harm than good. Should he decide to run for president, what's he gonna sell as his pitching point? has a population of 16million and more people, when your policies can't affect positively 1 out every 5 person, let alone a whole lot more, it's time to evaluate his policies.There are so many ways to kill a bird without actually using a sling, gun or what have you. There are different YET gradual approach to achieving same result

take dat: Preach on since you've turned into an overnight crusader. I am not against criticising Fashola, I also have my misgivings towards him but your antics to score cheap political points by trying to win support using arguments based on emotion rather than reason is quite amazing.

veraponpo: I am sure d OP is a joker. I am sure it is not the Fash of Lagos. Which Surulere did u go and all your team saw was Jakande and FG,s works? Is it the same Surulere whose roads have been dualized and made to double carriage every where? Pls get serious because you openly disgracing yourself. If u have Fash in your village, your people will not remain the same.

take dat: Guy stick to the topic of discussion and stop aiming to score cheap political point. You are basing your points on mere assumptions that the state government did tax the fireworks dealer, if you are quite familiar with Lagos Island and how residential buildings are being converted to storage facilities, you will know that it is quite easy to conceal contraband goods. It is not in the purview of the state Government to ban the sale of fireworks, it is entirely that of the FG to stop its importation.
Fashola only lamented on how poorly structured the buildings are, contrary to the town planning laws of Lagos state.

elrony: @babakpukpa better go tougher or no salary 4 u...
How come u cant make a point widout showin us how moronic u could be with insults *spits*

thelastPope: Is the state government doing its job? You flatter yourself. LOL! Get off your high horse and hypocritical posture and heed wisdom else you will be swept away in due time. You are delusional if you think you are indispensable. No one is. Aturu is right on the dollar! Deal with it!

babapupa: This convo is above NL rif rafs and I don't engage forum clowns and jesters.

take dat: Aturu is a rabble rouser, what has Fashola's complaint on buildings in Lagos Island not carefully planned and its congestion got to do with Aturu's lamentation on fire crackers? If buildings in Lagos Island had followed the normal town planning laws, some houses would have been saved during the explosion and if govt decides to embark on a demolition exercise it is the same activists that will complain that the government does not favour the masses. Fashola has no powers to ban fireworks, he has no control over our borders and ports.

thelastPope: Fashola's stup1d policies have killed more people that okada will ever kill in ten years. And for the record, he is anti masses. No one labelled him so, he made himself so. He is totally out of touch with the people.

onye ego: The touchstone for measuring democracy is not opposition to the Federal Government but a holistic and consistent defence of the truth at all times no matter who may feel aggrieved.

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