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PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by babapupa: 4:07am On Feb 24, 2010
Sky Blue:
Have a nice day  smiley
Exactly what you should have said from the beginning instead of peddling your mindless ethnic nonsense.
PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by babapupa: 4:01am On Feb 24, 2010
Sky Blue:
Perhaps ethnicity was the wrong word to use
Then find something better to engage with instead of peddling ethnic sentiments.

And what's responding to another ethnic bigot got to do with Rivers state budget? You got issues my friend.

I really can not afford to swap posts with you over what obviously is your own personal ethnic paranoia problem.
PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by babapupa: 3:29am On Feb 24, 2010
Sky Blue:
Your arguments like the one in bold always seem to border on ethnic sentiments. The irony is, on a national scale such reasoning has proved on quite a few ocassions to be destructive to the national polity. How on earth did Rivers State enter the equation? Is the poster living in Rivers State or in Lagos State? Is the poster paying taxes in Rivers or in Lagos State? I just don't get such diversionary arguments sometimes. You can still make your points without threading such lines which have in the past meant nobody could be investigated because their people would say the whole world is going after their son. To be honest with you it is a tad disappointing. How are you sure the poster's family is not indegineous to that area hence a Lagos indigene?
Unfortunately for you, the ethnic nonsense exist only in your mind. Don't you first have to tell us what comparing 2 state's budget got to do with ethnicity? Is Rivers state an ethnicity? Is Rivers state's budget an ethnicity.

Please stick your ethnic paranoia back inside the caveman hole you pulled it out of or go peddle it elsewhere.

Having internet access doesn't give you the right to spew meaningless rubbish. Go to bed if you have nothing better to do with your time.
PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by babapupa: 11:41pm On Feb 23, 2010
youngmonie:
Wht most people dont understand is dat for a state like Lagos, u cant satisfy everybody, d funds the state government get are far more less than it requires to develop the state, hence funds are only pumped into economic viable areas that can realise more money for the govenrment. The issue of population is anoder issue, people pour in from every angle into Lagos everyday hence. Most people just assume that govenrment gets load nd loads of money, even if all d funds in Nigeria comes to lAGOS, things cannot jus change over nite. So most people jus need to be patient
And the state budget is only 2 billion dollars for crying out loud. 2 billion is peanuts when talking about 18 million people.

Rivers budget with just 5 million people and smaller responsibilities is way bigger than Lagos state, but I don't see these noise makers asking what the Rivers government is doing with all that money.
PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by babapupa: 11:36pm On Feb 23, 2010
redsun:
Every dog has its day.The time has come that nigerians can no longer be deceived any more,people can only be foolish for a while  and at the appointed time,awareness will take its cause and this is the time.

There are very little rooms for corrupt individuals in nigeria right now.As bad as it may seem,it is the beginning of a new dawn.
I guess you don't have anything to state, all I had to do was ask you to state your case precisely because you obviously don't have any, you are just another petty bandwagoner with nothing but innuendos and misguided bad bele.

I know you don't have anything going for you in your backward firewood village, just spend more time pressuring your local leaders to offer your people a better lifeand stop taking phensic on behalf of Lagosians, Lagosians are always gonna be fine.
PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by babapupa: 11:15pm On Feb 23, 2010
redsun:
You are the one ranting if by now you still don't understand what issue is all about.Like i said you are shut off from reality because of the crumbs you eat  that fell off the tables of the kingpins.
Are you not the one ranting and carrying on about accountability?


Stating what you want accounted for instead of your useless kiddie rants would have sufficed.
PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by babapupa: 11:09pm On Feb 23, 2010
redsun:
You failed to mention lagos was the federal capital of the federal republic of nigeria,ode.I bet the privileges of constant invitations to owanbes as an area boy have shut you off from from reality as always.
This is getting comical.  So, Yoruba people in Lagos stopped being Yoruba people because Lagos state was the federal capital?

I seriously hope you're not the smartest person in your hamlet.
PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by babapupa: 10:53pm On Feb 23, 2010
redsun:
Talking to a backward minded person like you is a waste of my precious time,if in the 21st century world people like you don't know the significance of a clean street,talk less of monumental edifices and structures that makes up rational humans habitations.

Cities are built to glorify man's abilities to organize and live communally as a society in a wider scale with basic amenities and infrastructures intact but not without accountabilities and responsibilities to the people who made it possible with their contributions.If the people are responsible and accountable enough to pay their taxes,the govenrment on her side should be able to give account to the last dime as regards what the money is spent on.

To be a leader is not a privilege to exploit the people as the case of nigeria but a selfless sacrifice to serve,Fashola is not doing something extraordinary,he is doing what he is elected to do and should be bounded by the law of the land
Instead of your pointless rants and bungled analogies, why not just state in plain English what you want the Governor to account for if accountability is so much important to you.
PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by babapupa: 10:45pm On Feb 23, 2010
Fhemmmy:
This is a great writings.
It is so sad to know you pay taxes and yet nothing to show for the money, except some flowers.
Fashola has tried, but he needs to deliver on some stuff
Are these flowers too?

Fashola Commissions Six Major Projects In One Day


http://happylagosian..com/2010/02/lagos-state-is-moving-on-as-gov-fashola.html

Do you call this flower too?

City Hall

http://happylagosian..com/2010/02/lagos-city-hall-is-back.html

Do you call this flower too?

Lagos Mass Transit Rail Project Set To Take Off


http://happylagosian..com/2010/01/lagos-mass-transit-rail-project-set-to.html

Do you call this flower too?


Fashola Visits Oshodi To Inspect 601 Shop Kaiyero Market Extension.


http://happylagosian..com/2010/01/fashola-visits-oshodi-to-inspect-601.html

Do you call this flower too?


Ikoyi Link Bridge.


http://happylagosian..com/2010/01/ikoyi-link-bridge.html

Do you call this flower too?


Fashola Inspects Oluwole Urban Mall Project
.

http://happylagosian..com/2010/01/fashola-inspects-oluwole-urban-mall.html

Do you call this flower too?

Lagos gets new Crime-Fighting Bell 412 EP helicopters.

http://happylagosian..com/2009/12/lagos-gets-new-bell-412-ep-helicopters.html


Do you call this flower too?


Tejuosho Market Updates:::



http://happylagosian..com/2009/12/tejuosho-market-updates.html





Let me know if you need more.


It's really ok to put forward legitimate argument, it's not ok to peddle bogus, blind and disingenuous argument.
PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by babapupa: 10:16pm On Feb 23, 2010
redsun:
Until the yorubas break off from nigeria,lagos,in as much as it could be termed a mega slum,remains a bonafide city in nigeria and it belongs to nigerian,especially the players that makes the money roll,not for area boys and girls aka the otimkpus.

I personally can't live in a polluted and chaotic city like lagos,but i can have my activities there,whenever and wherever i want and can afford because it is a state in nigeria.

Lagos seized to exist as an evolving city when the oyinbos and the only thing that can bring it back to cause is strict accountabilities and responsibilities on the side of all,especially the leaders.
For starters,


Lagos state is a Yoruba state.

The Language is overwhelmingly Yoruba

The Government is overwhelmingly Yoruba

The language of deliberation at the state house is Yoruba

The cities, streets, towns and villages all have Yoruba names

The Arts, music, culture and traditions is Yoruba

There are Obas in Lagos state, not seriki or sultan, not Igwe or eze

I know it sounds good to say and as a Nigerian, you have every right to call any corner of Nigeria home, just don't forget for a second that Lagos state is a Yoruba state and folks from other state and countries love Lagos state because of the loving people of the great state of Lagos, their communal spirit, sense of togetherness and hospitality.


About what you like or don't like, please spare us the meaningless rant. Gari and epa is not for everybody and Lagos state is no forcing any Nigeria to stay in Lagos state or Love Lagos state. If Lagos state is not doing it for you, there are 36 states in Nigeria, freeking buy a train ticket to next state.

Life is too short my friend, keep your rubbish to yourself and go spend your time worrying about Your home state governors and their huge foreign bank accounts and backward towns and villages,
PoliticsRe: This Is The Reason Fashola Does Not Want To Be Probed - A Must Read. by babapupa: 9:11pm On Feb 23, 2010
hilli666:
how much more he could have accomplished with all these extra funds he allegedly usurped. Corruption is corruption,
How much did he usurped?

How did he usurped it?

Where is the usurped money and what is he doing with it?

Finally, where is the evidence to support you usurped money claim?
PoliticsRe: Why I Shunned Fashola’s 1000-day Cerebration —lagos Speaker by babapupa: 8:43pm On Feb 23, 2010
Screw them, the Governor is answerable to the people who voted him into office, not some self serving egotistical and petty losers.

And these mindless and petty clowns want to be the next governor?

You gots to be kidding me.
PoliticsRe: See Bad Bele O: Speaker, Others Shun Fashola’s 1,000-day Event by babapupa(op): 7:38pm On Feb 23, 2010
phantom:
Who says fash isnt a politician?Technocrat my a-ss.Dude is good.The ability to scam lagosians aint no mean feat, lol
So, if the one that's doing good is scamming, the one that's doing bad and not doing anything for his/her people n'ko? What do you call those?
PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by babapupa: 7:25pm On Feb 23, 2010
tpia.:
are you delirious, or how does your easterner rant relate to the topic? huh

Paying taxes is mandatory in any functioning society. The fact that you dont pay taxes in your home village, doesnt mean nobody should pay taxes anywhere else.

Anyone who doesnt see what's being done with your taxes in lagos, must be a blind goat.

besides, the rabble rousers and nitwits arent saying Fashola did nothing. They're simply trying to pretend he overpaid for most of the projects.

when country bumpkins of your ilk come to town na so dem dey do.
I don't get these eastern people for real, it's like anything to seek attention and turn everything into needless Biafra talk


Must every damn thing be about them? The sun doesn't rise and set on their narrow behind for crying out loud.
PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by babapupa: 7:21pm On Feb 23, 2010
Sky Blue:
Although I do not completely agree with the poster, I think your arguements are way off the mark. According to your reasoning then, I guess the world should open its borders to Nigerians since those in the country are not happy about it, so the country can be emptied of human life. If the citizen has a right to live in Lagos as a citizen of Nigeria and a Lagos tax payer, doesn't he have a right to question his government?

I believe Fashola so far is doing a good job (increasing the IGR of the state, investment in infrastructure and education, projects like eko atlantic, lekki project, etc) and I think we can't just expect the state to become paradise at once considering what was met. However, I don't believe you need to question somebody's right to demand from his gorvenor in order to make a point. It is meant to be a democracy after all.
How did we gyrate from Lagos state and indigents of Lagos state to international migration?


This is not about questioning the government. Don't you have to give us something to justify your questions and constant harassment? It's also about excising the same right they accessed when they made the decision to go live in lagos state. Regardless of your gripes against the Governor or the government of Lagos state, millions of Lagosians  love Lagos to pieces and also believe the Governor is the best thing since the emergence of slice bread.  Now what?

We have visual, credible and physical evidence of what the Governor is doing with our money so what evidence do you have to show that the Governor is stealing or doing any dirt with our money. It's all about fairness, you don't run around rubbishing people's good name for no reason. If you don't like the state, take your butt to the next state, if your don't like a store because their price is too high, you walk across the street to another store.

We all have choices in Life based on our given rights and you're free to make credible decisions as an adult to determine where to get the best bang for your TAX naira based on your personal values and standards and if you're convinced that Lagos state is the best place for you to call home, then be ready to act like a matured adult.

If you have any kind of allegation against any Government, the sensible thing to do as a right thinking adult and taxpayer is get your facts/documentation of wrong doing and take it to the press for further investigation, take it to the EFCC,  the court of Law or the state Lawmakers.

There are set avenues to channel your allegations trough.  Is all we need to stop the government and have it investigated is to throw anything at the Governor regardless of who's throwing it and what proof of wrong doing?


The Lagos state government is not obligated under any law/constitution to respond to every allegation out there and siting on NL yelling and steaming everyday and still not a shred of evidence to support your constant yelling of wrong doing only pictures that you have other issues from personal to ulterior or plain ol'e attention seeking. People with real and serious issues against the government are to be taken seriously, but not noise making folks with nothing put forward to justify our their noise and our undecided attention.

We've already been subjected to still unsubstantiated allegations by some folks asking the state lawmakers to investigate the Governor and the lawmakers themselves. Obviously, this is nothing but a bogus allegation and needless waste of the state's time, resources and the Governor in general and I'll tell you why.


Some group claimed that the governor mismanaged state's fund, misappropriated state fund, overshoot cost of projects, awarded projects to friends and other meaningless stories.

The fact is, after so many weeks, Lagosians are still waiting to see and read the the damaging evidence of corruption and wrongdoing against their Governor, the state legislators still don't have anything to present to Lagosians as true evidence of corruption and wrongdoing on the part of their esteemed Governor. All we have is attention seeking people with obvious dubious motives running around tendering checks they can't and don't know how to cash and they have the state colluding state legislators doing their biding and carrying their dirty water.

After the state court stopped all actions against the Governor because the investigating legislators are part of the complaints, the same bogus group turned around and exonerated the legislators of any wrong doing saying they don't have anything against the legislators after all so they can go ahead and investigate. This is an obvious attempt  to run circles around the court and take away the courts argument for stopping the investigation.

Now, so they have nothing against the state legislators in terms of evidence. What about the Governor? Where is the documented evidence against the Governor? Did the legislators ever asked this group to cough up credible documented evidence of wrong doing before telling Lagosians about their intentions to investigate their best Governor on record? Is this how credible and trustworthy people do things?

Tell me the governor embezzle money, diverted money to his personal or foreign accounts, stashed the state's money under his bed, he has houses in 36 states and in London, Paris, New york and Dubai and I'll listen to you. These allegations not only sound petty, they are silly.

Too bad people pull stunts like these and get away with it in Nigeria. How do you throw so much at a siting government and nothing is demanded from you in terms of proof and evidence of wrong doing. Only in Nigeria because people get sued and fined heavily for less in other countries.

Unfortunately and despite the fact that Lagos state is the most politically enlightened and sophisticated state in Nigeria, we still have some banana republic thinking people running around and calling themselves honorable when it's so obvious there's nothing honorable about them. They are nothing but relics of the past dancing to the tune of the past.

Fortunately, Lagosians have moved on and the last thing on their mind is going back to the past Lagos of chaos and anarchy, they've tasted the good life, they've tasted good governance and great leadership. Obviously, Fashola closed their corruption and gravy train pipeline left opened by the previous Governor.
PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by babapupa: 2:19pm On Feb 23, 2010
redsun:
Sometimes you guys forget that the diverse population of lagos isu yowhere what makes it tick.Lagos belongs to nobody but those that have interest in lagos and that includes everybody from all the nooks and crannies of africa not just nigeria.

This mindset of hunter gatherers should be stamped out from you people for us to move on.
This is way way off santimonious talk.

It doesn't matter who Lagos belongs to, it's still not by force to stay and call home a place you hate and dislike so much.

If you live in a bad neighborhood and have the means to move to a better neighborhood, God bless your hearth and move. Why needlessly suffer and complain when no one is forcing you to stay.


It's not about who a place belongs to, it's about you excising your given rights to make adult decisions about your own life, peace and security.
PoliticsSee Bad Bele O: Speaker, Others Shun Fashola’s 1,000-day Event by babapupa(op): 4:18am On Feb 23, 2010
[img]http://www.vanguardngr.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/lagos.jpg
[/img]

Gov endorses 15% furniture bonus for workers

By Olasunkanmi Akoni, Dapo Akinrefon & Monsur Oloowopejo

LAGOS—LAGOS State Governor, Mr. Babatunde Fashola, yesterday, approved a 15 per cent basic salary as furniture allowance to the state’s 118,000 public servants. It takes effect from this January.

He announced this while reeling the achievements of his government in the last 1000 days in office.
At the event, which was attended by thousands of workers, the Speaker of the state House of Assembly, Mr. Adeyemi Ikuforiji and some key members of the house were absent.

The absence of the lawmakers may not be unconnected with the seemingly frosty relationship between the executive and lawmakers over alleged non-allocation of fund for the latter’s community projects and the probe into alleged financial recklessness against the governor.

Guests at the event had waited endlessly for the arrival of the speaker, according to order of the programme. It was not until Fashola entered the hall that it dawned on them that Kuforiji would not attend.

Governor Babatunde Fashola of Lagos State Governor ,Deputy Governor Serah Adebisi Sosan and Other members of the state cabinet during the Governor Babatunde Fashola, 1000 Days in Office held yesterday in Lagos. Photo:Bunmi Azeez.

The development was against the norm where the speaker would send representatives to the event if he would not be attending physically.

Many recalled that the speaker had last year warned the governor during the 2010 budget presentation to be wary of praise-singers so as not to derail his focus but concentrate on delivery of dividends of democracy to the people of the state.

However, not a few pro-Fashola groups that syormed the event with placards emblazoned with various inscriptions asked the governor to go for a second term in office.

Stakeholders want 2nd term for Fashola
Some of the placards read: “Fashola, one good term deserves another. Fashola no shaking, carry go.”
The groups sang solidarity slogans eulogising Fashola with a warning to detractors to desist from causing distraction in the state and allow the governor to have full concentration on good governance that he has embarked upon.

In his address, at the event tagged, “Repositioning the public service for effective service delivery towards a model mega city state,” Fashola recalled that his administration from the outset was not given a chance to succeed but with the level of achievements so far he has proved them wrong.

According to him: “Ït is now clear that our morning has showed our day. One thousand days after, we are still running, and, because you have refused to look back, we remain focused on course and untiring.

“Many of you will recall that when we started we were accused of being in a hurry. It was even alleged that we were running a marathon like sprint race and we would soon tire.

“We must see every demand on us, not as a bother, but as a vote of confidence in our ability to deliver and do our best to respond even beyond the call of duty at all times. Truly, if people did not believe that we can do it, they will not ask us.

“The level of public belief in our abilities is at an all-time high and we must all stand up to be counted; because the only reward for hard work is more work.

Dignitaries at the event included the Deputy Governor, Princess Adebisi Sosan; Dr. Kayode Fayemi, Action Congress 2007 gubernatorial candidate in Ekiti State; AC Chairman, Lagos State, Chief Henry Ajomale; Dr. Fredrick Fasehun, founder of Oodua Peoples Congress; and Head of Service, Alhaji Yakubu Balogun.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/02/22/speaker-others-shun-fasholas-1000-day-event/
PoliticsRe: Schoolboy Gets Fashola's Attention by babapupa: 3:55am On Feb 23, 2010
^^^^^
Something other governors don't know how to do and are not doing.


Pics here @ HL.

http://happylagosian..com/2010/02/schoolboy-gets-governor-fasholas.html
PoliticsRe: Fashola’s 1000 Days Of Best Practices And Global Attestation To Leadership by babapupa: 10:51pm On Feb 22, 2010
The man with the master plan,

Fash 4ever,
PoliticsRe: Jos Crisis: Yoruba Leader Escapes Death, House Torched by babapupa: 7:27pm On Feb 22, 2010
Justcash:
What kind of fight can you pick when you can't fight to maintain your status as a Nigerian with the right to stay in any part of the country?

Close your dirty mouth! Which fight have you ever picked or chosen? It is a typical excuse of a coward for his glaring act of cowardice. You are advocating for your people to honour the wish of the hausas (Who are also considered immigrants) by running back to the west from Jos! If you cannot stand and challenge your fellow migrants who else can you challenge? Abegi spare me the story of choosing fights to indulge in. That is how cowards talk.

No! keep choosing and picking fights with wisdom, while the Hausa's slaughter Yorubas like rams for Sallah!

Thank God you mentioned the Biafran army. It shows that the Igbos actually stood their ground and fought. SOmething you will prefer not to do , instead you'd prefer your people to keep quiet and keep  getting slaughtered, or at best run back home and wait to be slaughtered at home (Like the Ijaws and Hausas did to you guys)
You are a big coward!
See trouble o, abi na by force?

Sorry dude, we don't dance to other people's tune and we don't function based on other people's clock.

Make you own clock and compose your own tune and dance to it to your heart's desire.

Yoruba people are not zombies and we don't jump up and down to satisfy one man's selfish dreams.

We did chose to whoop you when the 3rdMC kicked Ojukwu's a!s.s. and got him running to save his skin and dump the people he lead to their deaths and men on the battle field.

You still haven't answered my question per why the million Igbo that migrated back east in the 60's didn't stay and fight the Northerners.

Were they cowards too?


The fact that your Biafran leaders acted foolishly and gambled with the lives of so many doesn't mean other people should emulate their foolishness and enter battle field at will.

War is never the true measure of power, it's common sense and wisdom. The common sense and wisdom the savage killers in the first coup didn't have when they killed folks from other regions and left theirs un touched.

The common sense and wisdom Ironsi didn't have when he refused to punish his kinsmen, coupists, seditionists and murderers

The common sense and wisdom Ojukwu didn't have when he foolishly rose to challenge a better armed and superior enemy

The same common sense and wisdom he refused to display when refused to end the war and save his own people paining and starving

The same common sense and wisdom that betrayed his ability to show leadership and conviction to stand with his people and men to the end and instead, running like a petty scary coward

The same common sense and wisdom he did not have when he returned from his sissy exile and mocked the people he lead to their deaths by begging for pensions from the same enemy his people died trying to defeat.


You see, the joke is really on you,
PoliticsRe: Civil war not against Ndigbo — Gowon by babapupa: 4:29pm On Feb 22, 2010
I really don't think they read and understand what they post sometimes.
PoliticsRe: Jos Crisis: Yoruba Leader Escapes Death, House Torched by babapupa: 2:13pm On Feb 22, 2010
Justcash:
Babapupa:


1. You simply can't defend your view, and deny that you are a coward.


Stand and fight  like the people that you claimed to defeat.
coward!!!
Again, so far according to the history of our great Nation, we have just one coward on record, I believe his name is Ojukwu. The number one cut and run expert.

We, don't run, we pick and chose our fights like reasonable people with wisdom. We didn't run away from the the Biafran army, we not only confronted them, we kicked their a.!s.s till they surrendered to a Yoruba man.

You see, it doesn't matter how many times you repeat the coward nonsense, we both know who the coward is, it's in history books and that you can not erase.
PoliticsRe: Jos Crisis: Yoruba Leader Escapes Death, House Torched by babapupa: 2:09pm On Feb 22, 2010
KnowAll:
That Yoruba King in Jos is on his own, .
You really can't put too much stock in these yeye naija journalist, especially the one in the article, may be he put his own Oba spin on it and the dude probably don't even call himself Oba.
PoliticsRe: Jos Crisis: Yoruba Leader Escapes Death, House Torched by babapupa: 10:35am On Feb 22, 2010
Dude, too bad you're no making any sense. Going back n forth with you is torture,


Next abeg,
PoliticsRe: Jos Crisis: Yoruba Leader Escapes Death, House Torched by babapupa: 9:47am On Feb 22, 2010
Justcash:
The fact that you consciously suggested that the Yorubas who made Jos their home in their country (Nigeria) should run back to their villages because they are being attacked shows that you are an unrepentant coward.
Don't try to deviate the topic by looking for a way to bring Igbos into it.
My point is that Yorubas must stay in Jos. They must protect themselves and die if possible protecting themselves. The Hausa's fought in Idi araba (Remember?) Igbo's also fought in Kano and retaliated in the East to stem the frequent attacks on us  in other parts of our so called country. Yorubas must be able to do same, especially considering that they also fought to keep Nigeria as one.
Stop praising a Yoruba/Hausa army that had "Oyibo" backing and seek for a way to fight for your right without "Oyibo" backing.
There may be no D-i.c-ks for you to suck this time. Lol!
You are a Coward!
Like I said, wise people pick and chose their battle, we are not zombies and we don't do follow follow. You're not making any sense.

I'd still love to know why the million igbo folks that migrated back east did not stay and fight up north. Abi den just develop weak liver after seeing thousands of Igbo people bleeding and dying?

You are not making any sense. Some Igbo leader made the right decision back then and called for Igbo people up north to move back east.

Btw, Oyibo did not back the 3rd MC that whooped you, a Yoruba man was in charged and you surrendered to him. Always remember that or I'll keep reminding you. We fight to win when it counts.
PoliticsRe: Jos Crisis: Yoruba Leader Escapes Death, House Torched by babapupa: 9:37am On Feb 22, 2010
Sonofpeace:
for your info baba whatever Ojukwu did not run away rather he was compelled by colleagues including effiong to escape to ivory coast via biafra jet for his safety en that of the igbos.
This is like the hundredth reason why he ran, I believe there's is another hundred out there.

Captains don't abandon ships, they are the last to leave. Ojukwu not only cowardly betrayed the people he lead to their deaths, he returned to mock their deaths by collecting pensions from the same Nigerian government he sacrificed his people's life and property for, he even asked to be paid a general's rank pensions even though he was not a General in the Nigerian army. He is out there smooching and having a good time with the same people he fought against and contributing to the on going mess.

Where is the dignity and honor?

Where is the core conviction?

What did the innocent died for?
PoliticsRe: Jos Crisis: Yoruba Leader Escapes Death, House Torched by babapupa: 9:02am On Feb 22, 2010
RichyBlacK:
Alright, I agree with you that the protection of life and property is very important, however, guaranteeing such protection may come at a cost, a cost that the entities involved must be willing to pay.

Those unarmed civilians can get armed. Running away from crime is not always the best response because it emboldens the perpetrators of such crime.

Nigeria is our country, equally. We all have rights to live anywhere in Nigeria. You suggesting that people leave their business, property and jobs, instead of fighting back the criminals (even if inviting fellow Nigerians to join in the fight), is most insensitive.

Your suggestion will only worsen things.
You can not cut and dice safety and security of innocent people, your job as a leader is to secure their safety, not to kill them, not to jeopardize their lives by inserting them in the middle of violence, they are not the army, police, militia or para military. There are refugees during unrests for a reason, you don't tell them to stand and fight because hey have rights or you're trying to prove a point. Innocent and unarmed  people are not political or ideological fighting army.

Btw, who do your surggest arming them? The government? Who really?
PoliticsRe: Jos Crisis: Yoruba Leader Escapes Death, House Torched by babapupa: 8:53am On Feb 22, 2010
Justcash:
I would have been surprised if you had a good response. The best you can do is to do what typical cowards do, Run!!!!

Chant "One Nigeria!!!"
So far according to the history of our great Nation, we have just one coward on record, I believe his name is Ojukwu. The number one cut and run expert.

We, don't run, we pick and chose our fights like reasonable people with wisdom. We didn't run away from the the Biafran army, we not only confronted them, we kicked their a.!s.s till they surrendered to a Yoruba man.

You see, it doesn't matter how many times you repeat the coward nonsense, we both know who the coward is, it's in history books and that you can not erase.

There you have it, are you satisfied now?
PoliticsRe: Jos Crisis: Yoruba Leader Escapes Death, House Torched by babapupa: 8:33am On Feb 22, 2010
Justcash:
Babapupa will you shut up!

Yorubas are Nigerians. They must stay in Jos whether good or bad, till death does Nigeria part.  grin

You guys fought to keep Nigeria one. That is very brave of the Yorubas. Oya! it is time to co-exist as one!  grin

Coward like you!

How did Igbo get into this topic? Abeg, leave my people alone o. We are very much in the North and West. We are ready to remain in Nigeria whether by Peace, money or guns. However We will leave the day Yorubas see the uselessness of the Entity called Nigeria.

As for Now, Yorubas must stay where they want to live in Nigeria, and be killed by the Mugus that sucked Awo's  manliness to make him betray the people that set him free from prison that the same Mugus put him in.

Nonsense!!!

Oya let's chant, "ONE NIGERIA!!!!!!!"
What else is new? Just another loud mouth spitting the same odious I guess.

NEXT>>>>>>.
PoliticsRe: Jos Crisis: Yoruba Leader Escapes Death, House Torched by babapupa: 8:31am On Feb 22, 2010
RichyBlacK:
So, if you do not "disagree with anything", then why are you suggesting that fellow Nigerians should abandon their property and leave their places of residence because of the criminal activities of a few miscreants?
Hundreds of people died because of the actions of the same few miscreants abeg.

What's your point? Are you suggesting that unarmed innocent people should confront violence because they have rights? Why do people flee areas of violence and unrest? What is the meaning of and what causes human displacement and refugees? You think they don't have rights.

Safety and protection of life and property mean anything to you? As a leader, what would you do? Tell your unarmed men, women and children to confront bloody violence because they have rights?  Are you even reading and making sense of what you're posting and asking people to do?
PoliticsRe: Jos Crisis: Yoruba Leader Escapes Death, House Torched by babapupa: 8:13am On Feb 22, 2010
RichyBlacK:
Which of these principles do you disagree with?

1. All citizens are guaranteed equal rights.
2. The rights of citizens are not dependent on the geographical location they find themselves, except it explicitly stated.
3. Every citizen has the right to do business any where in the nation.
4. Citizens reserve the right to self-defense to save life and property.

Try answering this simple question.
Are you saying Igbo people were denied their rights before the civil war or at anytime? What's your point really?

Obviously, I didn't disagree with anything, I basically pointed out that Igbo people before and after the war were blessed with the same rights enjoyed by the westerners and northerners.

Also that just because Igbo people and Huasa people in the north weren't getting along doesn't mean they were not part of Nigeria or were denied any kind of rights. What happened was limited to the northern part of Nigeria.

And Igbo man was the president of Nigeria, an Igbo man was the vice presidents of Nigeria, Igbo men were and still are ministers, senators, governors permanent secretaries, managers and directors of paratatals all over the country, Igbo men are major power brokers in the same Nigeria.


True or false?
PoliticsRe: Jos Crisis: Yoruba Leader Escapes Death, House Torched by babapupa: 8:09am On Feb 22, 2010
aloy-emeka:
Why do you keep diverting this thread?. Your initial was that the Yoruba chief is useless and should be thinking of how to evacuate his people back to Yoruba land. Since he is not here to read your suggestion and anger towards him, why not lead the crusade?. Do you need two heads to lead your people out of danger?. This goes to show the hypocrisy underlined in your suggestion here. Let them do it while I issue ordfers online. Bloody coward.

Instead of addressing the issue at hand, you are more interested in unleashing your generic animosity on Igbos by starting a vain arguement. Are Igbos the ones killing your brothers in Jos?. Go and check Nairaland history and read pages where this issue has been beatren to death. Its like the Biafra/Ojukwu saga. If you want the pages, I can exhume them and let you read at your best. I do not indulge in beating a dead horse. we are in 2010 and the Yorubas in Jos are in danger in 2010 and not in 1966. Geddit?
Your kinfolks diverted the thread with their Igbo against the world crap as usual. So, you might want to keep quiet and redirect your meaningless rant to them.

And you still haven't produced the population numbers I asked you to produce. Please do that instead of posting worthless nonsense all over the place.

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