₦airaland Forum

thegoodjoehunt: You said Coach Keshi's comments make him an Okada man, so Mou, Alex, Queoliroz did worse, but you can't say that about them. Just as you can't call this white dude crazy because they are white. I am glad Coach Keshi can tell it to them.

That those guys did such is not a justification. Besides they were reprimanded for their actions which is much more less than an issue that has to do with racism.

collynzo2: so where does Keshi suggest he has a negative view about 'whites'?

Yes he does! He has ignorantly made reference to the gentleman's race. If you want to respond, you respond based on the issues he has raised and not refer to his race. The man never expressed worries about race when expressing his fears. Keshi and the rest of the ignorant ones must realise that the world is changing. Sub-Saharan Africa is no more made up of only black people. Today we have Chinese Nigerians, White Nigerians, Indian Nigerians and Caucasian Nigerians. The gentleman there in a few years will even probably be a White African. Obviously, there are people like you who do not want to see these things, however, it will continue to grow in your face. There is nothing you or Keshi can do about it.

Losers will continue to moan while races continue to mix. It will grow and you cannot do a thing about it.

thegoodjoehunt: You really think coaches are UN workers. Carlos Queiroz fought officials not to do an unscheduled drug test, he felt it was wrong to just target the portuguese teams when others were not treated in the same manner.

Sir Alex Ferguson pushed a lines man.

Mourinho poked Tito's eyes former Barca coach and called him Pito (woman's private).

I am sure this are members of Ommata.

Is Mourinho's thuggish behaviour a justification for such.

collynzo2: Real ignorance is making a comment without knowing the facts. NFF had responded to FIFA and FIFA had already mandated Malawi to honour the match. You should have known that before commenting IGNORANTLY.

Then it should have been left there! However, Keshi chose to ignorantly and stupidly run his mouth.

thegoodjoehunt: So you will be okay if Coach Keshi rejects going for a match base on a baseless report? Please the white dude's condescending remarks based on info gathered from a baseless report with no evidence is insulting and makes him a CRAZY WHITE DUDE.

Do you have a problem with the use of the language? If the match is fixed and Malawi fails to show up, then it is their loss. Simple!

collynzo2: Some of the comments you have posted here are worse than racist. What's your view of those who own roadside shops and sell ''roast'' corn? You are as ignorant as racists if not worse.

Bla bla bla, worse than racist. I have no negative views about them as I eat their corn. However, I also believe their situation is not helpless unlike race. If I were Black, White or Caucasian, there is nothing I will be able to do about it. However, if I were poor, self development and freedom can bring me out of poverty.

On Keshi's case, I am on nairaland, I do not represent Nigeria's national team. Keshi does and more is expected of him when he speaks.

thegoodjoehunt: How come you are ready to support the white dude for calling Calabar unsafe. Don't you see that he is just insulting us? You are so quick to find faults in Coach Keshi noticijg the similarity between madness and someone tagging a city safer than London unsafe.

Craven Cottage in London is holding a match in a city with a history of multiple bomb attacks. I didn't see Fifa asking for anti bomb squads. Yet a safer city must provide that. Isn't that racism from crazy white dudes?

Like I say most of you are just ignorant. What is wrong in referring to an official advisory by a reputable diplomatic organisation. The fact is, if Keshi or the NFF have an issue with that, an official response dissuading such fears will have just been enough and then you wait for FIFA's words. If FIFA says the game can go ahead and he does not bring his team, he loses out. It is common sense, the official way and what is expected from a leader like Keshi.

What he has shown here is totally unacceptable and should be reprimanded for using such disgusting words. He is not the head of Okada Union or OMMATA. He is the head coach of Nigeria's national team and more is expected.

collynzo2: Such a patronising attitude. Anyone who opposes you has a roadside shop and sells ''roast'' corn. This is a facelsee forum, no one knows who you are and you don't know who the next man is, leave it like that. Only insecured people go down the route you are going. Idiat!

You call it patronising but it is the fact. One thing why I hardly even bother about racism, is that racists like the man there are very ignorant people and why should I even bother about such people.

When you listen to what they say, you begin to have pity for them instead of hating them. They are ignorant and it is a disease.

[quote author=dos-santos]sharap there.inferioority complex is killing you, cos some white dudes called organisations came out with trash as travel advisory without any evidence to back it up and u came here fooling around by brandishing their claims. go get ursef waxed up. inferiority complex is a cancer, go for a therapy[/quote]Another ignorant comment. You see when they tell you most Nigerian graduates are unemployable, this is the reason here. This man here is probably one of those graduates. There are basics in the manner every organisation responds to issues. Keshi being a leader in that organisation should know better. If you understand that then you are safe. If you do not, then I will leave to your road side shop to continue selling your roast corn.

thegoodjoehunt: If that white dude is invited to London, he will go and not be bothered about his safety, despite the bombing and beheadings. Please that white dude comments are insulting.

"If" is the reasoning of a nairaland troll. You cannot hold him on "if". We are talking officially here and the behaviour expected of managers and leaders.

collynzo2: I doubt if you even know the source you refer to as 'reputable' and 'diplomatic'. Any proof to those assertions? You make foolish conclusions without investigating.
If you had any form of sense at all you would have tried to find our if there had been an official response to the issue before posting blind comments. You are a pleb.

Bla bla bla, like I said common sense is not expected. It remains an official document. If you have any problem with his source then your query should have been directed at his source. If there was an official response, then Keshi should have left it there. A simple statement like this would have just been enough, "we have made our official position on this issue known to FIFA through the NFF and I don't want to say any more about this". It ends there! He will not have put himself in this situation of being seen as ignorant and silly. But he chose to run his mouth. Run his mouth like a nairaland troll and not a leader. I won't have any problem when he is fined heavily and suspended.

[quote author=dos-santos]stop being a clown, calabar is a safe place for everybody safer than many cities in europe & US. if london is so safe why did they budgeted hundreds of millions of pounds for security when hosting d last olympic. dat white dude was only trying to ridicul nigeria as a nation, let him go backk to holand ASAP else i go send kidnappers from asaba to calabar to go waylay am![/quote]I say again, common sense is not common and not everyone understands what the basics of communication within an organisation should be. You are probably in one road side shop and I won't blame you for not understanding these issues.

collynzo2: Those documents represent opinions not facts and there is nothing credible about them. If you had common sense, you would have known than NFF has already proven to FIFA that Calabar is safe that's why they said Malawi MUST honour the match in Calabar. That's evidence that FIFA doesn't recognise such useless documents, even mulitnational companies don't recognise them. No one does!

Like I said, common sense is not expected from a nairaland troll. It is an official advisory from a reputable diplomatic source, it is not compelling to take the contents serious. However, he has chosen to take the warnings contained in the document serious. What are you going to do if not present an official position to counter the warnings in the document. That is common sense, an official way of responding to issues, it is leadership behaviour expected from the manager of a national team. He is not expected to be at the same level of your thought. You are a troll, you hardly have any relevance in real life.

collynzo2: Another absolute trash! What is official about that document? It's just the OPINION of a British organisation. For the records Calabar is safer than London, a bomb has never gone off in Calabar, neither has a soldier been beheaded. Such useless documents have never been used in football.

If you and Keshi had any atom of common sense, you will know those travel advisories are official documents from credible diplomatic organisations and there is course to worry. What Keshi and the NFF should have simply done is to provide evidence to the contrary, it is common sense, an official and polite way of responding to such issues.

However, Keshi has shown how classless and ignorant he is as he has responded like a nairaland troll without common sense. He is not a nairaland troll. He is a leader, the manager of Nigeria's national team and it demands more responsibility and caution when he speaks or writes.

Keshi comes across as ridiculously stupid, ignorant and classless with that statement and FIFA should come really hard on him.

The man had submitted that the venue of the game is unsafe. He has made this submission based on an official verifiable evidence. What Keshi, the he-goats at NFF should have simply done is to provide evidence that this is not true and ou try to convince them. Even if we know he is simply playing the mind game, we try to play along with them and not fall for their bait.

See how Keshi appears ridiculously stupid with his statement. Just like the trolls here, he thinks it is an insult to doubt the safety of the venue based on an official document.

Ovoko! Ovoko!! Ovoko!!!
It's all I can say.

HNosegbe: Typical Nigerian. Answering a question with another one.

My point is the fact that Ed Miliband did it doesn't make it right.

Perfectly right, it is not an insult but a criticism. It adds to the strength of debates. To say one is a kindergarten leader is akin to saying he's a mediocre. It is not name calling and it is also not an insult except you have a problem with the use of the language.

You are the one that has questioned the democratic practice in the UK and I see no problem in the way parliamentary debates are conducted. If you have any problem with parliamentary sessions in the UK, please kindly advise.

HNosegbe: And when did the UK become a perfect model for democratic practice?

Oya Mr biko explain what a "perfect model" for democratic practice is?

HNosegbe: Honestly I'm quite disappointed (as an individual leaning towards the APC) in Bisi Akande for making a statement like this.

It's quite unstatesmanlike to call a sitting president a "kindergarten" leader. It smacks of pettiness, small-mindedness and sheer banality to call people names rather than address the key institutional and foundational problems Nigeria faces.

A true statesman rises above petty politics of name-calling and vindictive vituperation, and presents himself as a solution provider and bridge builder.

Calling Bisi Akande a "statesman" is an abuse of that word, and all those truly deserving of it.

Have you heard Ed Miliband call David Cameron "clueless and incompetent"? Have you heard him call Cameron a "downgraded Prime Minister"?

If Jonathan and his aides are daft enough to think calling him a "kindergarten leader" is an insult, then so be it. They tell them they are unserious and they keep showing us how true it is.

And he issued a statement saying it is an insult to as he is unserious. What other evidence do you need to tell you this is a kindergarten leader.

Jonathan is surrounded by very stupid aides. Abati's response is nothing but incompetence and unseriousness. He will do well to sack the m0r0n called Abati.

Like I said, with that Abati's m0r0nic statement, he further supports the view that Jonathan is a kindergarten President.

When did it become defamation to say a leader is incompetent, a leader is clueless or a leader is unserious?

If Abati still had any atom of sense in him, he would have known it is part of politicking.

We see it daily with Ed Miliband and David Cameron. Miliband is never shy to say Cameron is "incompetent and clueless".

Abati is a m0r0n. However, I also want to thank him for giving us more evidence to support what we have always known. That Jonathan is a kindergarten leader cannot be disputed again with Abati's statement.

He is truly a kindergarten leader. When did it become defamation to say such about a leader? I have watched the Britain's PMQ where Ed Milliband referred to David Cameron as "clueless" and "incompetent". On one of the PMQ's Milliband told him "it is a downgraded economy, a downgraded Chancellor and a downgraded Prime Minister".

If Jona was not a kindergarten leader, then he and his m0r0nic aides will not have brought out this watery response.

What is defamation in telling him he is clueless and an unserious leader?

With this response he further supports Akande's position that he is truly unserious. To talk of "rudeness" and defamation here shows these are truly unserious people.

Most of the airports apart from Lagos may not be viable. They do not even publish financial statements for these Airports, so how are we meant to assess performance? The airports are still being run like motor parks with no defined strategy.

Modern day Airports are businesses with defined strategies.

I even heard some are planning one in Anambra to add to the other 4 airports around that area, how pathetic.

Instead of having an Airport in Anambra that will further erode the viability of the existing ones, why not lobby for the dredging of the Niger so as to make the River port in Onitsha operational. That way Anambra will benefit from the River port, Imo and Enugu can focus on aviation, everyone will be happy and output will grow.

Better than this mob action we are about to see in the name of Airport.

I remember Soludo and NEEDS in the early 2000's when he said NEEDS was going to create 4 million jobs in the first year alone. Perhaps you all need to ask Soludo where are the jobs from NEEDS before taking his manifesto serious.

I remember Soludo said with his bank consolidation and increased liquidity of banks, interest rates will drop as banks compete to make credit available. We hardly saw that years after consolidation. What we saw was the bank took higher risks in a bid to guarantee returns to investors. The result was the near collapse of some of these banks till the CBN and AMCON came with a bail out.

Now the same Soludo has written these words promising heaven and earth. Perhaps you all should make him account for the failure of past strategies and policies before taking him serious on any of the promises in his manifesto.

noblezone: What did you call them? REGULATORS!

So the directors refused to play the regulations!
greater percentage of Bank profits is from loans, but the loans are all supposed to be under proper risk management.

the liquidity boost was a lie sold to Nigerians so that the evil agenda of taking over banks scaled through.
Before the take over, there were no issues of liquidity in the banks.

Signs of liquidity includes:
1. Long queues at banks
2. Depositors not having access to their funds

None of those were happing!

That banks had bulk assets in common stocks was the headache of those at the head of those banks. If they make profit or loss, it was there cups of tea. It would be an issue only if depositors do not have access to their funds.
This was not happening.

You expose your ignorance again. Firstly, signs of illiquidity and not liquidity. Long queues at banks and depositors not having access to their funds is a pedestrian approach and a layman's approach to determining illiquidity. You can run on unsustainable credit sources to maintain liquidity which was what those banks did. However, it is akin to pushing dooms day forward as the bubble will ultimately burst.

You determine liquidity by carrying out volatility tests, you value assets using appropriate models and you can thus determine liquidity. It is a technical process and not that your idea of long queues at banks. When Northern rock went down, even till it got nationalised, people were still able to collect their money. There were no long queues at Northern Rock but its assets had been significantly written down.

The last part of your argument even further confirms your ignorance on what Central Banking is all about. So banks can hold any asset, it is not the Central Banks business? . Like say you think say Central Banking na your esusu

The signs were there early enough but the CBN headed by Soludo went to sleep.

You shall leave them in that place and not relocate them, else it becomes a violation of the fundamental human rights of the Fulani people.

Mr Aboki: [b]Erm....

Well, I obviously dont have common sense like some people rightly said here, but I wonder what all these 'F.G' and 'State Government' thing you are saying has do to with the state of this road. I am not in the government. My car is not even an SUV. Sooooo! While Fashola & the F.G are there debating whose road that is, we are losing Nigerians to drowning by Flood. Meanwhile, everybody who dies from the state of that road would neither be buried or compensated by the F.G nor the S.G. But hey!! Common Sense says we should allow both tiers of Governments settle the matter in their own jolly time..

ARGH!! Meanwhile, other states are doing it. And even before we speak about their Allocation from the F.G, lets also note that Lagos State has the highest Internally Generated Revenue amongst all the States in Nigeria.

If the F.G has a problem with Fashola building Federal Roads, its because he uses 1 billion to construct 1 Km of road.

I'm not exhornorating the F.g, just saying that the excuse of 'THIS IS A FEDERAL ROAD' is now moot.
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Is it all the dilapidated federal roads in Rivers Amaechi has worked on? How many do you want to even work on is the issue when most of the federal roads are in a mess.

Lagos has also worked on a lot of federal roads over the years but you cannot do all.

I am a living witness to the fact that there was a time Lagos wanted to work on the Ikorodu to Itoikin road but then the Feds came and said they had already given out the job. Till date nothing has been done on that road.

noblezone: You need to understand the politics of the so called bailing of banks.

Soludo's policy forced banks to merge, and some people from some sections of the country felt cheated out of banking industries.

Bank business is about giving out loans! The debts that caused the "bailing out" was owed by people like Dangote.

Please tell me, did you go the bank and you never got your money because the banks failed?

Soludo was to re-denominate the Naira such that it will become as strong as Dollar or even Pounds sterling: why was he policy dumped as soon as he left?

It was more of politics than the picture that was painted.

Join our team!

Bla bla bla, politics of bailing out banks and we had to spent trillions on naira to boost liquidity in the banks.

The banks failed because regulators went to sleep, that is the issue. No, bank business is not all about giving out loans. It is about finance and effective risk management.

Risk management was poor in those banks and they took on very toxic assets. Imagine banks having the bulk of assets in common stocks and petroleum products marketing. Where were the regulators?

sheyie2007: people like you are the reason we're not moving forward

Semi-illiterates like you is the reason why the country has refused to move. I am not moved by the empty words that have been said from 1970 till date.

What is so inspiring in what he has said? That we need to shrink the public sector and expand private investments?

If you were properly schooled, you will know this is an issue that has always been debated from 1970 till date. What has been done and what is being done is the issue.

That you got N2 million through YOUWIN is it something that has never been done? Did we not see similar schemes under IBB and Abacha's NDE. The level of significance is the issue.