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Nairaland / General / Lawyers, Please Contact Me Now! by Barywhyte(m): 10:58pm On Aug 21, 2020
Nairalanders,

I am very sad this night. This Sokoloan company earlier today sent messages to my phone contacts calling me fraudster and that one Nigeria Institute of Credit is looking to arrest me for running away with company's money. They said that I am on the run.

I collected a loan of 5k, due on 17th of this month. For some reason, I couldn't pay back on the due date and I contacted them to give till Friday, today to pay back. I have their money, which is just N7200 but I have vowed never to pay that money again.

A lot of my contacts have called me today asking what the issue is. People that I haven't even spoken to in 5 years suddenly called to find out what the issue is after getting those horrible messages.

Now I want to sue them. I am ready to spend multiples of that money on Law suit. I don't care I will spend the money on lawyers.

I have never been into court issues my entire life. If you are lawyer based in Lagos and your chamber is Lagos-based, please reach out to me. I will respond immediately.

Please folks, help me with suggestions on how to go about this.

If you wanna insult and call me names for defaulting on loan, please go ahead too.

Properties / Re: Can 2 Million Naira Build Me A 3 Bedroom Bungalow? by Barywhyte(m): 3:55pm On Aug 16, 2020
Nezero:
I built mine with about that amount.
3 bedrooms,1 living room, 1 kitchen , 1 toilet/bath, 1 dining room. I used less than 1500 blocks. All plastered and tiled. Electrical wiring done. No fence.



No well or running water yet

It's small though. The whole house is 33 by 22. I used 9 bundles of roofing sheets. I used Louvre windows.


If you really mean it, you can do it.
It could be better but I trusted the wrong person..


Do a lot of homework. I got plenty of info on Nairaland.. like how to calculate no. of blocks. Foundation, window, lintel and roof levels.


https://www.nairaland.com/4491449/how-calculate-number-blocks-cements


God help you


Wow! Must have involved alot of money management and personal supervision. If I may ask, when did you construct this house and how long?
Celebrities / Re: Are You A Bi-sexual Or Homosexual? - Dele Momodu To Bobrisky (Video) by Barywhyte(m): 10:12am On Jul 31, 2020
He has lost his identity.
Politics / Re: Ngige To Faleke: "You Are A Small Boy, I No Get Time For You" by Barywhyte(m): 8:21pm On Jul 22, 2020
Dotherightthing:


21. Please spell words correctly when you post, and try to use perfect grammar and punctuation.



Monitoring spirit! grin grin

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Programming / Re: Share Your Remote Job Experience As A Developer by Barywhyte(m): 4:09pm On Jul 06, 2020
jubrilELsudan:
YOU ARE VERY STUPID.

YOU KNOW YOU WORK ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT, COMMON SENSE SHOULD TELL YOU THAT YOU MUST SLEEP DURING THE DAY JUST LIKE MEDICAL STAFFS AND OTHER WORKERS WHO WORK NIGHT SHIFT DO.


BUT YOUR TYPICAL 9JA MENTALITY WON'T ALLOW YOU TO SLEEP DURING THE DAY CAUSE YOU MUST ROAM AROUND TOWN LOOKING FOR KUKUNASE AND SHOWING OFF TO PEOPLE WITH THE SMALL CHANGE THAT HAS ENTERED YOUR HAND.

shocked
Programming / Re: Share Your Remote Job Experience As A Developer by Barywhyte(m): 1:19pm On Jul 06, 2020
thenaijacoder:


Well, the pay isn't that much $500 per month but it is quite okay for me though.

I would have aksed for more but i am not good at negotiating so i went with the flow.


Jez! How could you say you are ok with $200 per month?? Guy you are being ripped apart. The smallest you should bargain for is $1500 per month. $200 a month or do you mean to say a week?
Crime / Re: Nigerians Condemn FBI For Focusing On 6 Nigerians On The Wanted List (photos) by Barywhyte(m): 3:27pm On Jun 27, 2020
StillWiz:
God help my country cry

Stop being mischievous. Nigeria is not on that list idiot.
Politics / Re: June 12: President Buhari Will Broadcast To The Nation At 7am On Democracy Day by Barywhyte(m): 6:16pm On Jun 11, 2020
SuicideInMyMind:
Till then

But, my moniker on my mind. Time is really ticking

Baba, what's going on? Spill it and many people on nairaland are ready to move. Tell us
Politics / Re: We‘ve Fed 11,965 Primary School Pupils, Says LASG by Barywhyte(m): 1:09pm On Jun 04, 2020
In their parents houses or where?
Religion / Re: COVID-19 And The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ by Barywhyte(m): 11:47am On May 03, 2020
Chosen1984:




JESUS CHRIST, The LORD and SAVIOR of Humanity gave one the most Terrifying words in
Matthew 24:21
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.


The Lord Jesus Christ Who is the way , The Truth and the Life, not given to exaggeration. Yet He speaks of a time so terrifying, so horrible, that nothing compares to it.

JESUS CHRIST is not speaking of those general “trials and tribulations” all of us have. This is a unique time, seven years of hell on earth. There is nothing like it in all history, secular or biblical. Revelation chapters 6-19 describe that terrible time.

What is the purpose of the Great Tribulation?

Will Believers alive,( whose Names is written in the book of life) go through it?

Let's have a look at the purpose.

1.The Great Tribulation is the last seven years of God's dealing with the nation of Israel before they are brought to a final crisis—and prepared for receiving their Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ. We know this because of many Scriptures connecting the Great Tribulation to the nation of Israel.
Jeremiah 30:7
Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it.

Also see Daniel 12:1

These chapters makes it clear that the Tribulation is a time to prepare the Jewish people to receive the Lord Jesus Christ and that God will save Israel out of it.

When the Bible uses the word “Jacob,” it always refers to fleshly Israel, natural Israel, the Jews as we know them. It is not speaking of “spiritual Israel”—the Church—the Body of Christ.

Jeremiah 30:10-11 explains further
10 Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.
11 For I am with thee, saith the LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet will I not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.


From these scriptures, we see that Jacob is Isreal. Daniel people are the Jews ( Isrealites)

They are the Elect who JESUS talked about in Matthew 24:22
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

2. Another purpose of the Tribulation is to punish the Gentiles for their arrogance, rebellion and godlessness. Isaiah 24 and Jeremiah 25 beginning with verse 30 describe the Great Tribulation coming upon the Gentiles.

God will pour out His wrath upon a world that has spurned Him, that has laughed at and ridiculed His precepts and principles.

So who will be going through this great tribulation?

Clearly, Israel, for it is “the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it.

notice in all of the scriptures that deal with the Great Tribulation, not one scripture mentions the Church—the Body of Christ—as being present during that time, not even the book of Revelation.

The Key to Revelation

To better understand the book of Revelation, you first need the key to the book.


In chapter one, the apostle John was in prayer when he heard a voice behind him. The Voice identifies Himself as “the Alpha and Omega,” the resurrected Christ. He instructs John in verse 19 to write those things “which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter.”

There is the key! if you do not understand this one verse, you will not understand Revelation or that it is divided into three sections: past, present, and future—the things John has seen, the things which currently are, and what will happen in the future.

What had John seen? John had a vision of Jesus Christ coming in power and great glory, and he wrote that. So the first division is complete.

In chapters 2 and 3, John moves to the second division, things which are, and John brings seven messages to seven churches. These were seven literal, actual churches, but they represent all churches of all time. Chapters 2 and 3 say “church” over and over again. This is the second division: the Church Age. We are living in the church age.

Now notice something remarkable, beginning in Revelation 4:1.

And after this, behold a door was opened in heaven and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me which said come up hither and I will show thee the things which must be hereafter.

From Revelation 4:1 through to the end of the book, we have entered into “the things which must be hereafter.” John, our brother in the Church Age, is symbolically lifted out of this earth, taken up to heaven, and then his description of “the things which must be hereafter” begins.

In Revelation chapters 4-19, we see the horrors of the Great Tribulation.
from this point on, you do not hear the Church, the Body of Christ, mentioned again.

The Lord has specifically promised to keep the Church from the Great Tribulation.

1Thesl 1:9-10
9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;
10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

In Conclusion,we can see that the Tribulation is for
1.the correction and preparation of the nation of Israel
2. the punishment of rebellious nations and people who have rejected God.

The Bride of JESUS CHRIST, The Church will not be Here during the Great Tribulation..

Before the antichrist Officially takes over, The Church Must Be taken away..

Also The antichrist cannot Officially take over until we the saints are Gone..




Thanks for this bro. alBHAGDADI is reading these passages word for word and letter for letter. The letter of the Bible kills! I dont like argueing this concepts with people because it's very dangerous as we all still need to pray fervently for continuous revelation of the mysteries of God's world at this end time.

I wanted alBHAGDADI to explain the parable of ten virgins and how it applies to this end time tribulations.

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Politics / Re: COVID-19: High Profile Deaths In Kano State by Barywhyte(m): 5:02pm On Apr 25, 2020
xpmode:
Following the alarming spread of the novel coronavirus in Kano State, many lives have been lost owing to the virus.

These deaths recorded include some prominent figures as follows:

1. Prof AU Dikko

2. Prof Ibrahim Ayagi

3. Adamu Iliyasu Dal former chairman Civil service commission

4. Nasiru Maikano Bichi

5. Dr. Musa Umar Gwarzo

6. Malam Musa Ahmad Tijjani - a former editor of.leadership Sunday

7. Dahiru Rabiu - a former Grand khadi, Kano state

More details... www.thestreetjournal.org


We still don't have verifiable evidence that those deaths were caused by corona virus. FG and Kano State government have refused to clarify what's going on Kano, much to their shame and stupidity.
Crime / Re: 'One Million Boys' Storm Oworonshoki In Lagos. Youths Resist Them (Video, Photo) by Barywhyte(m): 3:16pm On Apr 20, 2020
ThatKING:
are you back now? I hope you are safe

We repelled them at New garage roundabout. Bariga boys and guys from sawmill sides won't have any of their stupidity. I'm still outside but there has been some calmness now. They would have overrun this area if the boys hadn't taken a strong defence earlier.
Crime / Re: 'One Million Boys' Storm Oworonshoki In Lagos. Youths Resist Them (Video, Photo) by Barywhyte(m): 3:00pm On Apr 20, 2020
africanusvu:
. Coward as usual.All boys are outside with cutlasses and weapons but you are inside posting waiting for Ur wife to return from market.Shameee

What stopped you from hugging the transformer opposite your house? Save yourself this pain bro and hug that wet transfer.
Crime / Re: 'One Million Boys' Storm Oworonshoki In Lagos. Youths Resist Them (Video, Photo) by Barywhyte(m): 1:01pm On Apr 20, 2020
ChristianNorth:
Yoruba, most sophisticated tribe in the whole world


You have refused to get sense even now that it is free.

What do you idiots get from tribalism and bigotry?

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Crime / Re: 'One Million Boys' Storm Oworonshoki In Lagos. Youths Resist Them (Video, Photo) by Barywhyte(m): 12:53pm On Apr 20, 2020
merit455:
Please we need police attention in Oworonshoki area of Lagos

Men who claims to be one million boys are currently raiding and terrorising shop,homes.
I couldn't take pictures because my sister wouldn't allowed me move out.

No police present in my area!


You are right man! My wife just returned from bariga market. I stay at Gbagada. She came back fearful saying all boys are outside with cutlasses and other weapons. I'm inside my house right now and I'm stepping out to see for myself.


Coming back ..

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Politics / Re: Gang-Rape Tweet: Bello El-Rufai Apologises For Indecent Tweets by Barywhyte(m): 6:08pm On Apr 17, 2020
Politics / Re: All The People Making Donations To Government Are Hypocrite. by Barywhyte(m): 1:20pm On Apr 01, 2020
Expensiverichyb:
I was thinking out loud and getting angry. What exactly are they looking for? Maybe government project, recognition or social media publicity? Hypocrite


You are right! That's the agenda. To maintain coordia relationship with people in power.

You have a great perspective in this regard.

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Politics / Re: Video:italy Reports Deadliest Day Of Coronavirus Pandemic by Barywhyte(m): 1:39pm On Mar 23, 2020
Righteousness89:
Italy case is Really pathetic!
I Pray For GOD'S Mercy on them..

The man in Rome needs to be careful! Retrace his steps and Submit to The True and Only GOD ALMIGHTY.. He should desist from being an agent for the antichrist..


He won't listen. He's not destined to listen. God has allotted his time and it shall be accomplished.

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Religion / Re: How A Witch Programmed Her Dog To Cause Me Wet Dreams In Those Days by Barywhyte(m): 10:17am On Mar 15, 2020
DarkJeddi:
Bone matter,no be today we came this world..


A religious Fanatic can read meaning into the most innocuous of events..


Wet dreams are a natural occurrence.


It's those natural occurrences that powers above and below use to truncate and manage physical lives.

You know nothing about such topics

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Career / Re: Have You Ever Been FIRED At Work? Share Your Experience! by Barywhyte(m): 9:42am On Mar 13, 2020
shegzhkn:



$2200k bawo , what the hell is that or did u mean $2200 (2.2k usd)??

Oh man I meant $2200
Career / Re: Have You Ever Been FIRED At Work? Share Your Experience! by Barywhyte(m): 6:30pm On Mar 08, 2020
chukzyfcbb:

ofcourse, we all know someone who got whipped up from linkedln or somewhere abroad, it's not a news flash.

And yes if one keeps upgrading himself like I said, you stand to earn higher income. it's simply means you are more valuable than before.

However the notion I am reading here that if one picks up some scripting languages in 18months he can be on his way to 500k or 750k is far from reality. That sentence cuts across a very small data set in nigerja.

Success takes Time and Hardwork and that's my message.

Not to forget that some of these programmers or IT guys who earn close to 1million or more don't always know as much as you think they know.

They are not really the Ronaldo's of the industry or the Messis in the coding ecosystem in the country, some just found grace/luck to be at that position.

Bro guys are out there hungry and armed with skills waiting for the breakthrough that will land them these big bucks

Put them side by side with some of these programmers earning 1million and above and they will crunch them for dinner with knowledge.

And it cuts across other IT fields too not just programming.

Life isn't always white/black, it isn't always 1+1 = 2.

However I still maintain the fact that if one keeps advancing his knowledge in RELEVANT FIELDS that are in demand overtime he will hit the top

But it may take time and not as quick as most people are painting it to be (1yr/18mnths)

That's my point sire.

You are absolutely right! My last line manager is a perfect example. Dude earning $2200k per month and doing not so much. Developers are resigning because they felt he is earning so much while the coders who are doing the main job are earning far less. I left too.
Career / Re: Have You Ever Been FIRED At Work? Share Your Experience! by Barywhyte(m): 1:42pm On Mar 08, 2020
People that don't know a thing about IT are here rambling around asking if 750k per month is possible. My immediate line manager in my last workplace at Oniru estate in Lekki is earning $2200 per month. One business dev guru is earning $1600 in the same company. Have you converted those to Nigerian naira? The day I discovered he was earning so much for doing things that I can easily do and even more, I started plotting my move away. He outsourced many of the tasks to me and took credits for it including serious emergencies in production systems.

Exactly two months after, I left the company for another where my salary is more than twice their pay.

Let me say that people are earning big time in Nigeria. And to even shock you, some earn big for doing little in private establishments.

In my next job, I will not settle down with 750k per month salary except there are perks that support such base salary.

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Health / Re: Coronavirus In Nigeria: FCT, 8 States At High Risk - WHO by Barywhyte(m): 7:35am On Feb 29, 2020
Righteousness89:


Like I said, I see the pope as the Fore runner of the antichrist.. he has been busy doing his work of calling a so called Peace!

The former US President ( Barack Obama) fits the antiChrist..

Anyway I am not Concerned with them..


Haha no American president will ever be antichrist. Remember the woman that fled into wilderness in rev. 12?? Where is that wilderness??

You are very right that popes are forrunner of the antichrist. That's very true. But man of sin himself is the Pope of ROME in that day. Here is a man more brutal than Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler and emperor Titus combined.

I pray daily for Gods mercy. Because there is nothing absolutely nothing to hold onto in this world.

Peace brother
Health / Re: Coronavirus In Nigeria: FCT, 8 States At High Risk - WHO by Barywhyte(m): 9:42pm On Feb 28, 2020
Righteousness89:


You are quite correct my brother! But I don't think the pope is the antichrist. I see him more as the false Prophet of Rev 13. I see him more as the "Fore runner " of the anti-Christ.

I don't know if u are aware of the so called " Global peace pact" holding may 17 this year.
The pope is the convener of the meeting. And it's for all leaders of the nations in the world..

I Just wish and pray The Understanding and eyes of the people are open to see what is about to shake this Earth..


The antichrist is the pope of that hour. Radically different from the previous popes. Knowledgeable and extremely great in wisdom with perfect understandings of the world economy and politics.

The signing of that pact is not happening this year. Although it will happen around May/April of whatever year it will happen in THIS CENTURY. Only the ground work is being laid.

Here is sign: watch out for when Europe would call for independent economy not relying on global United States Dollars.
Health / Re: Coronavirus In Nigeria: FCT, 8 States At High Risk - WHO by Barywhyte(m): 5:31pm On Feb 28, 2020
Righteousness89:
When I see the Pressure the whole world is in right now due to this Corona Virus, I begin to imagine the State of the World once JESUS CHRIST Cracks open the Sky and lifts his people away..

It would be Really Terrible down here!

My Prayer is that We all will be Accounted Worthy to Escape the Destruction coming on this Earth..

SEE these events as an Opportunity to Draw close to JESUS CHRIST and Make Peace withHim..

May GOD ALMIGHTY give us Understanding of the times we are ..


Antichrist is coming to give false hope. The man of sin is coming to deliver 3¹/² years of false hope to the inhabitants of the world in those days. He's here. Look in the direction of Rome!

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Iran Promises 'harsh Retaliation' After US Airstrike Kills Iranian Gen(photo) by Barywhyte(m): 2:10pm On Jan 03, 2020
Kapeter:
oga Iran cannot do sh*t. It will only give America the upper hand to destabilize the country once and for all.

Neither Russia nor Turkey will do anything, not even China, they will all be on their lane as usual.

What i just don't understand is why the whole world is against Iran, what have they done?

Iran is known worldwide as a terrorist country that uses proxies in Iraq and Syria to attack Saudi Arabia, Israel and other US interests in middle East.

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Politics / Re: Nigeria’s $9 Billion Debt To P&ID: Everything You Need To Know by Barywhyte(m): 5:30pm On Sep 03, 2019
Shoodboi:
Did Buhari mess up with the initial $850 settlement?


www.nairaland.com/attachments/10154565_image24_jpeg0fe5e48c340d8a34a853b788af33348a

Buhari did mess up but we cannot really blame him since he inherited the problem from his predecessors.

That is not P&ID’s problem though since government is continuous.



Why didn’t Buhari just pay?


Buhari is infamous for four terrible things:

1. Running a country into a recession within a short period.
2. Leaving the country for long periods of time.
3. Flouting agreements and court orders.
4. Delaying in appointing ministers.
All four got him into the current mess with P&ID.



Prove it…

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The then General Buhari ran Nigeria into a recession during his one year and eight month long tenure that lasted from December 31, 1983 to August 27, 1985.

He ran Nigeria into a second recession soon after he became president in 2015. This one lasted from 2016 until 2017.

Experts say he will lead Nigeria into a third recession from mid-2020 until 2021.

Buhari was slow in appointing ministers after he was elected president in 2015 and 2019.

He took six months to appoint ministers in 2015 and three months in 2019.

The 2019 appointments could be considered six months if we count from February when he won the polls.

(Buhari was sworn in as president on May 29th in both instances.)

In 2015, Buhari only appointed Abubakar Malami as Attorney General and Minister of Justice on November 11.

On July 17, 2015, two months after Buhari became president, an arbitration tribunal in the UK upheld the $6.6 billion March 2013 judgment against Nigeria.

Nigeria was minister-less at the time.

Buhari is also in the habit of leaving the country for long periods of time to receive medical treatment in the UK.

In 2017, he even spent four months in the UK — at a single stretch.

Sometimes, he did not even bother handing over to Osinbajo before leaving.

Even when he handed over, the Aso Rock cabal still bypassed Osinbajo and flew documents to Buhari to sign while he was still receiving treatment in the UK.

This was what they did with Yar’Adua.

The public soon found out, causing Buhari to tell members of the cabal to direct all official documents to Osinbajo.

Let’s not talk about that part where Buhari disobeys court orders and agreements.



What did Malami do?

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In 2015, Buhari and Malami still refused to negotiate with P&ID even though it was becoming clear that the judgment will soon become a problem.

Malami started getting involved in the case around late 2016 and early 2017 when the British court upheld the 2013 Washington DC judgment and ordered Nigeria to pay P&ID over $9 billion.



Did Buhari and Malami open negotiations with P&ID?

No, the Buhari-led Nigerian government neither opened negotiations nor paid.

It is worthy to know that Nigeria was in recession at this time.

The cat and mouse game continued until mid-August 2019, when the UK court allowed P&ID seize Nigeria’s assets to recover its money.



What did the Nigerian government say?

The Nigerian government went into overdrive after the mid-August 2019 judgment.

Zainab Ahmed, the Minister of Finance, Budget and National Planning, called the judgment an attack on every Nigerian.

Godwin Emefiele, the governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria, has called P&ID a fraud.

Buhari and some members of his cabinet have also thrown some facts around. Let’s analyze them.



Buhari’s government vs P&ID vs the Truth


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Buhari’s government: The 2010 contract with P&ID was flawed. Nigeria did not sign it.

P&ID: The contract was legitimate.

The Truth: It was flawed … for Nigeria at least.

Yar’Adua was ill and there was a power vacuum back home at the time the deal was signed.

It is possible that neither Yar’Adua nor Jonathan signed that deal.

But someone signed for Nigeria. Who was that person?

Verdict: The fact remains that the deal was probably signed.

Whoever signed for Nigeria is not P&ID’s business. That’s Nigeria’s headache.

However, it might help if Nigeria can prove that someone forged a signature or something. Bonus points if P&ID was involved in the sham.

Winner: P&ID if it was signed. Nigeria if it was not.



Buhari’s government: P&ID demanded a $850 million settlement even though it did nothing.

P&ID: We spent $40 million on the licenses, equipment and some other stuffs after we thought about the deal in 2006.

The Truth: It seems P&ID did really spend some money but that was before it even approached Nigeria for a deal.

Verdict: Whatever P&ID spent on licenses, feasibility studies and whatever is none of Nigeria’s business.

Their expenses only become relevant after the deal was signed.

Winner: Nigeria obviously!



Buhari’s government: The 2010 contract with P&ID was void because the Federal Ministry of Petroleum Resources does not manufacture gas or possess oil or gas reserves.

P&ID:
The gas was to be procured from Exxon Mobil and Addax petroleum’s OML 67 and 123, and not from the ministry.

The Truth: The Federal Ministry of Petroleum Resources was sourcing the gas from Exxon Mobil and Addax petroleum.

Verdict: This is a no-case argument. The Nigerian government should have never brought it up.

Winner: P&ID.


Buhari’s government: NNPC was not aware of the deal.

P&ID: Nigeria set up a Joint Operating Committee on July 22, 2009.

On board were two representatives from the Nigerian petroleum ministry, two from NNPC and the last two from P&ID.

The Truth: No one knows.

Verdict: NNPC should speak up on this.

Winner: It should be P&ID. But this too is a no-case argument.



Buhari’s government: P&ID cannot sue Nigeria in a UK court over a deal that happened in Nigeria.

P&ID: Sure, we can and we did.

The Truth: This part is very complicated and we have addressed it below.

Verdict: Buhari should be right but as we said, it is complicated.



Should P&ID be able to sue Nigeria?

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This part is very complicated. Only experienced lawyers specialized in international, business and corporate law can give answers.

But a short answer:

In a Nigerian court? Maybe.

In US or UK courts? No, although it could sometimes be a maybe.



Can P&ID sue the Nigerian government in a Nigerian court?

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P&ID or any other person or company in Nigeria or elsewhere cannot sue the Nigerian government in Nigeria because of sovereign immunity.

Sovereign immunity is a legal doctrine that protects a country from legal cases — even when the country is wrong.

A country can only get sued when it waives its sovereign immunity.

So P&ID cannot sue the Nigerian government or the Ministry of Petroleum Resources, which is considered a part of the executive arm of the Nigerian government.



Can P&ID sue the Nigerian government in a US or UK court?

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P&ID cannot sue Nigeria in a US or UK courts because of what we call state immunity.

State immunity is the international version of sovereign immunity.

It protects a country, business or government agency from suing another country in its own country.

However, state immunity could sometimes be waived at the discretion of the country where the lawsuit is happening. That is, US and UK in this case.

Most countries do not waive state immunity over the possibility of a political and diplomatic fallout.



Do US and UK courts have jurisdiction over the case?

The answer is a no.

P&ID should be unable to sue Nigeria in the UK or US because the both courts lack jurisdiction over the deal.

(Jurisdiction is “the official power to make legal decisions and judgments.”)

The deal happened in Nigeria and involved the Nigerian government and a business registered in the British Virgin Islands.

Only a Nigerian court and maybe, a British Virgin Islands court, should have jurisdiction over such case.

The Buhari-led federal government raised this argument but the London court went on to deliver judgment anyway.



But the British Virgin Islands depends on the UK for its foreign affairs

True! But this lawsuit does not seem to be one that falls under British foreign affairs.

Even if it did, it is of no concern to the US.

Yet a US court passed the initial $6.6 billion judgment.



How then did P&ID win the judgment?


The UK court proceeded with the lawsuit because P&ID sued under the 1958 Convention on the Recognition and Enforcement of Arbitral Awards (aka the New York Convention).

The New York Convention is an international treaty that allows businesses sue other countries in their own country.

159 countries including the UK, US and Nigeria are signatories to this treaty.

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Signatory nations are in light blue.

But this too should have been impossible since P&ID is registered in British Virgin Islands and not in the US or UK.



Other things you need to know…

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A US hedge-fund manager called VR Capital Group has acquired a 25% stake in P&ID since judgment was delivered.

(Hedge funds are businesses that invest in very risky businesses.)



Why did VR Capital Group invest in P&ID?

VR Capital Group wants P&ID to continue suing the Nigerian government



Why?

Because that is the only way it (VR Capital Group) can make a profit.

Hedge funds are a game of numbers.

The investors know they will either profit massively or lose miserably. There is no middle ground.

They make their profits when the courts allows them retrieve and sell Nigeria’s assets.

They lose if the courts don’t.

For now, they are funding P&ID so it can continue suing the Nigerian government.

There are indications that VR Capital Group and P&ID have even contracted US-based lobbyists to allow it seize Nigerian assets in the US.



Who are lobbyists?

Lobbyists are people or businesses who “make donations” to US senators and legislators money so they can raise a motion, pass or frustrate a law in the Congress.

(Congress is US’s version of our National Assembly.)



What do you mean by “donations”?

Lobbyists cannot pay the senators and legislators directly.

So they take them out for dinner, buy them gifts, fund their reelection campaigns, organize fundraisers, donate to their communities, find their staff and families good paying jobs … you get the deal.




What? Isn’t that bribery?

You don’t call it bribery when it is supported by the government.

Lobbying is legal in the US.



Can we call it legal bribery?

Yes. Lobbying is legal bribery and corruption.



What are the consequences for Nigeria?

This P&ID court case has legal consequences not just for Nigeria but for almost every other poor and middle income country out there.

Other multinationals will start suing other countries including Nigeria over the most frivolous reasons if P&ID is ever able to seize Nigeria’s assets.

This will further impoverish poorer countries and put them under the armpits of these richer nations.

It is unfortunate but that’s how the international politics work.

Source.



We are just a laughing stock in the comity of nations. How could Nigeria two individuals drag her in mud like this? This is beyond shame.

Thank you op for this expository!

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Britzdon:


HOW DARE YOU DECEIVE THE PUBLIC WITH A FAKE VIDEO LINK .

Bros blame the stupid nairalanders who don't read but swiftly reply to posts they know nothing about

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Romance / Re: I'm About To Lose My Fiancee, Please Help by Barywhyte(m): 2:57pm On Jun 15, 2019
Kapello8:
Hello Guys,

Please don’t Mind my English, am really typing this in tears and pain.

So there’s the babe I’ve been dating, I truly love her and we’ve been setting up my new flat and making plans for our Traditional wedding hopefully this November but something tragic struck and took away all d Joy and Happiness....

This was how it began, she took my phone and went through all my chats and I had some female friends I’ve been flirty chatting with but honestly I I was dumbed to have done dat...

I lied to them that I was single and searching I never accepted that I had a Fiancé just for the fun of it I also lied that she was my cousin and she found out all those stuffs and now she has ended the relationship...

I’ve cried and wept because my stupidity has made me to loose my angel...

She’s an ideal wife I never knew what got over me to just try being flirty....

I have involved my Family and her Family to beg her but she has refused. She told my eldest brother that she can’t love me anymore.

I’ve also pleaded with her best friend and siblings to plead with her but she’s not willing to come back....
I’ve sent her over 50 apology SMS I’ve called her line over a 30 times but she’s not willing to take my calls.

When I call with an unknown number and she hears my voice she will drop the call.
She doesn’t wana even talk to me.


The whole house looks empty without her I just can’t forgive myself for loosing the best gift God gave me. Now I feel so downcasted...

Brothers and Sisters please I need your candid advice. Your Free to Insult me

Am writing this because I’ve not been able to sleep. I can’t Forgive my self. I truly Love her.

Mods please move to front page.

So many of you boys ( you are not a man yet) are weaklings.
Do you need Babalawo to tell you that this lady does not love you? She also know you are weakling.

I assumed this is the first time you are doing such.

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