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kkins25:
I will answer not as a demo or republican, but as a biologist; a fetus is indeed a living thing since it possesses all features of living things. But, is it human? Now that's the real horn of the issue.

Argument: "My body is my choice"

counter 1: holds logic like a basket holds water. A very strawman argument. Scientifically speaking, a fetus is human because it possesses all chromosomes of a human. If a fetus is a human as recognized by science, then killing a fetus will be equivalent to killing a human.

Argument: A fetus has no mind of its own

Provoking rebuttal but not enough to shatter argument 1. Implying that a fetus has no mind of its own will implicates proponents of such arguments in a non-ending spiral. For example, If a baby is delivered prematurely, at 5 months old, can it still be "killed" since it was possible to do so while it was in the uterus? The argument in reality argues that the fetus isn't human enough and therefore can be aborted. The counter strike is, there is no difference between a 9-month-old baby and a 6-year-old baby in the same sense that killing a 10-year-old is as morally wrong as killing a 35-year-old. The difference between the 6-month-old and the 9-month-old boils down to the varying developmental stages, which we can equally say about the 10-year-old and the 35-year-old.

Now, if a mother gives birth and immediately decides to end the life of the baby, will that be considered an abortion, or a crime? This is an easy answer- all nations and schools of thought agree that it is the latter. Now comes the uppercut, What's the difference between a 5-month-old and a newborn baby?
Both are totally dependent on the mother and still need to be fed by the mother albeit via a different channel; nonetheless, it is still a biological channel. The placenta vs the mammary gland.
Both do not have a mind of their own, are incapable of any thought, and are greatly underdeveloped.

So, objectively speaking, killing a fetus is not different from killing a human. That settles the debate is a fetus a human.

Now, the next horn? How valuable is the fetus compared to a nine-month-old to the human psyche? I'd leave that table open.

Obrigardo:
A fetus is a living thing just as plants are living things. The question your brain should be asking is when is a fetus viable, i.e when can it live outside the body of the woman.

But in spite of that, you magats miss the whole point of the fight for Abortion access. You don't even want to know why a large percentage of women are fighting for this right, to just be left alone to take care of themselves. I don't even want to explain it to you because you are so hard headed, nothing goes in.

Drameeja:
FAKE NEWS!

I only listed a few among so many.

Can you do same?

Oya say the names of the companies that provided the imaginary employments...

DeusXmachina:
You have to define a living thing first.
A vat of bacteria is a living thing, every cell in your body is alive.

So you have to be able to make some distinction here.

Obrigardo:
So from your logic you now segway into cannibalism? When you have nothing else concrete to say, this is what happens. You start rambling nonsense.

budaatum:
Thankfully, this is from this same thread, where I maintain as I do everywhere, my body my choice.

Now try using your brain just a little.

If I carry my buda body to the abortionist and say abort what is in it, my body my choice, right?

And if I decide for my buda body after foetus has reached the point of viability, no abortion except in very extreme circumstances like the life of the mother; who's body, ben?

But of course stupid ignorant "maths is racist" you would infer buda's body buda's choice, and ben's body buda's choice too". Then you would claim that is what buda implied. Sigh!

I've told you you should have paid school fees, Ben. Pity it's now too late for you.

benalvino3:
You know what Fauci did recently to try to cover his ahs:
New emails uncovered by House Republicans probing the COVID-19 pandemic reveal the deceptive nature of Dr. Anthony Fauci.

They show he “prompted” or commissioned and had final approval on a scientific paper written specifically in February 2020 to disprove the theory that the virus leaked from a lab in Wuhan, China.

So they can use science to lie for the agenda

Obrigardo:
Yes it's quite hard because if Good men stand by and do nothing the evil ones will flourish and deceive many.

budaatum:
Dude, You are the stupidest person I have ever come across on Nairaland. No one has ever ever come this close to your level. I guess it's because you add lying to your ignorance. You lie to yourself then you believe your own lie and think others will believe you. It's probably what blinds you to your ignorance and stupidity.

Ben! When and where the fuq did buda ever tell you buda is not exactly where buda has worked really hard to be in buda's life because of anything or anyone at all, ben?

In honour of you and your level of ignorance, I have gone and changed my personal text on my profile to Snake!

Be informed that buda does not cry.

benalvino3:
We shall see


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIOiGtO2UBA

benalvino3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3hHi4sylxE

DeusXmachina:
Are you serious?
You learn your science from politicians

God, you're an NPC.
I made the mistake of assuming you were a human mentally capable of defending your belief, that bugs are bad, or providing evidence of your conspiracy, my bad.


It must be nice to be able to make up things, and get upset over them.


You haven't presented a reason why lab grown meat is bad.


This would be Based actually.


Would affect the composition of soil, and ocean water, so it's a dumb idea.


Carbon credits are dumb liberal solutions that don't work.

DeusXmachina:
And what is exactly wrong with exploring another source of protein?
It's alright to think bugs are gross, but you had to build an entire conspiracy around that?


It's cow burps actually.

And there is already a study that suggests a slight alteration in livestock diet that can cut methane emissions by more than half.
https://beef.unl.edu/reduce-methane-production-cattle/

So it's more an alteration in farming techniques, protein alternatives being made available, and less wasteful food habits on the side of the consumer. These are what are required to tackle this part of greenhouse emissions.

IjeBos:
Great example of what this thread is like:

Someone posts a nutter conspiracy theory.
Chief cooner himself Benalvino3 seeking affirmation stans the conspiracy.
The biggest nutter Basilico pops in (now there is a cooner quorum) and declares that you're an idiot if you aren't also dredging the dregs of the internet looking for nutter conspiracy theories and not know what this is.
You post a fact check that it is indeed a conspiracy theory
Basilico (chief nutterer and mental patient #1) then proclaims, he would show you proof but Youtube, Instagram, Google, Twitter (run by another Nutter), Reddit, 4chan and every other right wing nutter factory has scrubbed. it.

Welcome to Nairaland's American Politics Thread.

Obrigardo:
If I threatened you, you would have abandoned the internet years ago.
But don't expect me to try and convince you that you are in a dangerous cult. You love being there.

DeusXmachina:
I don't understand the conspiratorial nature of people freely choosing to eat bugs.

If their was a political movement banning meat production and forcing people to eat them. I'd get your concern, but insects like other animals can be another form of food.

This video just shows people being given that option.
I believe in people's freedom to choose what they want to eat.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm craving some fried grasshoppers right now.

Obrigardo:
Basilico basilico basilico

I don tire for you, like seriously. Chai

You want me to go back in time and dig up all the Fascist dreams of criminal trump and the maga cultists Nationwide.

You know you can't gaslight me, right?

Obrigardo:
They have one of the worst takes in political cartoons, so poorly written, and distastefully unfunny. No wonder you can't find a really funny comedian in their ranks.

budaatum:
See how stupid you are? No one calls the book maths is racist despite you claiming to have provided daily mail as evidence that maths is racist, but according to stupid hypocritical you no one calls a bill don't say gay despite it being called don't say gay all over the place? Is it not stupid people like you inferring don't say gay when nothing like such is implied?

The bill does not say don't say gay.just as the book does not say maths is racist! Both are stupid propaganda, but your dumb ass seems to want to accept one and reject the other because one suits your magastupidity, which you really ought to go find a cure for Ben.

Obrigardo:
Even Faux entertainment are trying to navigate their way ahead of criminal trump.
This coming election is about which side you are on - Democracy or fascism.

IjeBos:
Precisely, because it's not Klaus Schwab.
My degree did teach me how to use my mind so I won't continuously fall prey to conspiracy theories. Unfortunately, you had no such training.

https://fortune.com/2023/01/16/davos-conspiracy-theories-hit-the-mainstream/
Davos conspiracy theories, such as global leaders forcing the population to eat insects instead of meat, have hit the mainstream, researcher says

Obrigardo:
Deathsantis will be torn apart on the campaign trail. The kind of media criminal trump met in 2016 on the campaign trail is no more. They have evolved through 2020 and now more vicious than before. Deathsantis can't survive.

budaatum:
Somehow, stupid you must think posting silly inferences from the Daily Mail is the same as posting from the book which is what I asked you for and which you can not post despite me providing you with the book. Yet same stupid hypocrite you would not accept that the HB 1557 is the "don't say gay law" just because that's what CNN calls it.

Do let us know when you get a brain. Till then I thank the Gods for the don't be stupidly ignorant like you vaccine.

IjeBos:
Unfortunately for you, you have no power to curse me. If you had any sort of power you would use it to make your life better. Go back to playing with your idols. Never seen so many supposed Christians who turn so easily to the occult.

DeusXmachina:
The Colorado shooter was proven to be lying about being non-binary btw.
(To avoid hate crime charges)

benalvino3:
Despite the sanctions, Russia is doing well. The US both Republicans and Democrats just didn't understand what they were making when they gave China all that it is enjoying today. Trump is the one who tried to fight it and he was labelled a racist.

Sanctions are becoming an outdated weapon of the united states.

Obrigardo:
Basilico, is it not time to ditch the cult and free yourself from criminal trump?

benalvino3:
The Rebels are no saint as well, they used russia delivered BUK STA missile to shoot down a passenger jet. I followed the 2014 crisis. I was a strong supporter of Ukraine back then. I realized Obama's admin was behind the conflict that still did not sway me. It is only after i realized the pattern in Syria. Russia, Iran and China are all bad players. and if they are more powerful than the NATO, they would be doing what the US is doing or worse...

These does not benefit anyone. i think they should talk to end this.

benalvino3:
Another one who is a pioneer in the lgbt movement committed suicide. Transgender female. You would think he is happy with his transition but if they can't accept who they are they can never be happy. Transition or not