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Sometimes i really don't know how you guys read posts. My comment about blaming the school authority for assigning the lady to invigilate islamic exams seemed to be interpreted as blaming the lady for accepting to invigilate. what a crass ignorance and confusion.

As for baby, yes i once told you that islam sanctions the killing of apostates and today i also want to let you know that Islam sanctions the killing for deliberate desceration and abuse of the Holy Quran. However, i believe the case of the gombe lady has no malicious intent, it was a big miscalculation by the kids and we all condemn it. However, for the record, if any sane person intentionally and maliciously abused the holy book, the sharia verdict is death penalty

@Belloti and All,
I am now more than convinced that it is NOT possible to be a muslim and intellectually appraise issues at the same time. A careful perusal of the above post by Mallam Belloti will convince even the most tolerant mind.
First you are blaming the school authority for "assigning the lady to invigilate islamic exams" (by that you mean because 'she is a christian lady', I suppose!). Now, since when did 'religion or faith' become the determining factor for how a teacher or a professional should discharge his or her duty in a supposed secular country? Are you thinking at all? It is educated but ignorant peoples like you who are the advisers of the indolent governors that you have in the north, and you are destroying the country.

The really insane peoples are educated peoples like you and others who sanction the "sharia verdict of death penalty" for any abuse of the un-holy book of abuses called Quran (child abuse, women abuse etc plenty inside the useless book). What exactly constitute an abuse of the book?; who defines what an abuse of the book is?; and in what context should any 'tampering' of the book be an abuse? Dont you see that you are indirectly justifying what your fellow young animals did; because you can never justify what constitute an abuse completely to warant taking a human life.
My God, by making statements as above, you are a waste of every bit of modern education you have, except the islamic education. You are just a refined form of babs787, not much difference in the way you think.

@Atiku's PR assitant,
Good job, but to make the "meet Atiku" diatribe more complete, you need to fill in the wide gap which exits between:

In 1969, Atiku Abubakar enlisted into the Nigerian Customs and Excise service, where he served for 20 years, retiring in 1989 at the rank of Deputy Director

AND:

In retirement, Atiku Abubakar went into private business, developing investments in oil services, insurance, pharmaceuticals, agriculture and the print media. He was chairman of seven companies before his election as Vice-President

We are interested in how a retired 'civil servant' translated himself into a billionaire on retiring that he went into oil bussiness, pharmaceuticals etc. Defiinitely not with his "pension stipend"; and please dont give us the "I bought one cow, sold it and bought two cows and so no and so forth" BS that we've heard before. If you can 'honestly fill in the wide gap, he will be an inspiration to millions of young up and coming men and women, if you cant, then he'll continue to be an inspiration to "up and coming or potential thieves and looters."
Over to you, sir.

@stimulus and davidylan,
I'm sorry but I just have to say this, that the guy (blabs787) is just plain stupid as babyosisi asserted on another thread.
Check it out:

@babs787, Now you are being plain stupid!! Why don't you ferret your "knowledge" in your many threads?
You should be busy finding out why your brothers killed an innocent woman in Gombe and why they are now burning Churches rather than jump around like someone stung in his genitals by a bee.

It is quite unfortunate because he is very resistant to knowledge; you need to know that he asks questions not because he wants to learn but he just wants to put across the "new knowledge" he just scrapped off a christian-hating website or that he just picked from the mosque. That is the typical mode of discussion that is indoctrinated into their minds especially in the local mosques. I've met some ignorant folks but the guy tops them all, and the worst thing is his foolish pride; he "believes he is very smart." At least, apart from their mutual dogmatic approach, a discussion with somebody like Belloti produces some intellectual exchange of idea, but this blabs787's upper faculty is just like a stone: nothing goes in, nothing comes out!

Stimulus, I commend your attempt but when you are faced by peoples like 'blabs787', apart from praying for them honestly, your approach should be guided by '1st Timothy 6 vs 20':
"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain "babblings", and oppositions of science (or contradictions of knowledge) falsely so called."

So, you can see that the Spirit of the Lord has anticipated "blabbing" peoples like 'blabs787' thousand of years ago; and has instructed us appropriately. Pray for them to receive true wisdom and ignore their babblings!!

You've mistaken misright that asked questions to babs that never asked questions. I don't blame you because you are not after the topic but after babs and that is why you stupidly mistook me for misright that asked questions, we know you christians for that, always resorting to name calling, abuse etc

'blaber787'
Any reasonable person reading your diatribe will think you are having epileptic fits; just like your prophet muhammed use to have epileptic fits but they think he was receiving revelations from 'allah'. So, babs never asked questions. I affirm you are an indolent and ignorant soul.

@blabs787,
I hope you are not convulsing now; because your post suggest I'm getting under your skin. I stand by every appelation and every word I wrote in my post which is not as "lengthy" as yours, but you've confirmed every word I used to describe you.
I hope you know that you are nothing more than an intellectually indolent (i.e mentally lazy) individual; and you are now a source of amusement on the religion forum of Nairaland because of your "reverse intelligence quotience" (I saw that phrase appropriately used to describe you in another topic).
For example, let's all read this quote from Stimulus about the 'philosophy of blabs787' just today:

@babs787,,,,,,,,No vex, but I've indeed read the other thread about your claims and arguments (rather, denials) about the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ; and I'm quite satisfied with the rebuttal by several, especially shahan. What you keep doing is making denial after denial on some fancy twisting of words which you find difficult to assimilate; and that's not my problem. I could as well serve you denial after denial against Muhammad and his acclaimed adventure; but intellectuals don't stoop that low,,,,,,,

(others have seen the unintellectual position you are always found)

I will not engage you in abuse because I can't drag down to your level; but I can only deconstruct your conscious and sub-conscious intellect from you posts and reasoning. To everybody, it is obvious that you are just a joke.
Again, I say your questions are an invitation to "mutual foolishness"; because you are not ready to learn, but only open to unintelligent disputations which is your trademark. That is why you are now commonly and appropriately referred to as 'blabs'. So keep on your childish blabbings. 

You lame Christian Bigot, The Christians that removed Muslims from Spain were the same fools as you are, so they deprived their fellow countrymen of believing in the true God and his religion, instead they re-incarnated the Christian shit in Spain and spread it all over the South America

@burn cross (not possible)
The 'removal' of the 'foolish' ummahs from Spain by 'cold beer and cigarette' is what has made Spain a propeprous nation in Europe today. I wonder why 'islamic' Turkey is trying tooth and nail to become a member of the prosperous "christian" European Union and not trying to join the indolent 'Arab' league who are rich in oil but "islamically foolish" like their ancestors who were driven out of Spain by their foolishness.
Do you see the consistency of Islam with 'foolishness'(?) As it was before, so is it now and so shall it be.
So you want to burn the cross, well your forefather tried and failed, you too can give it a shot!

@Davidylan and stimulus,
Are you guys joking or serious? Baptist Muslim ke? Very soon we'll hear of born-again muslims speaking in the holy ghost.
The spirit of confusion and deception reigns supreme in Islam: that is the ultimate truth and proof on Islam.
While we have a hope and assurance of Salvation through faith in Christ Jesus as it is written, sealed by the Spirit and confirmed by signs and wonders; the truth is that islamic faith is hinged on insecurity. As such, every action and teaching in Islam is aimed towards looking for proof that their faith is true. So they are looking for validation of Muhammed from Deuteronomy in the Bible, or that Muhammed is the comforter spoken of in John.
Additionally, it is prophesied in the quran that muslims will defeat the jews/unbeliever in battle which is why they shout "death to Israel, death to America" every friday. However, every time they attack Israel or America and fail, they become jittery because that is suggesting that the Quran is false and muhammed is a liar (truth though) which is unthinkable to the average muslim.

@blabs787,
The difference between you and most people on this forum is your infantile thinking, your primordial reasoning and your unreasonable drivel. In short, you are just unreasonable; what is unfortunate is that you do not know it. I compared you to your 'sister-in-Islam' because she exhibited the same circular reasoning which is synonymous with your dogmatic approach to issues; which is to ask a question, and answer it albeit foolishly because of your limited wisdom; and now ask others to come and join your blind arguements. That is an open display of confounded thinking ability a.ka poverty of thinking.
For example, let's look at some of your "quasi-intelligent" responses:

As per the sect, it is called the Essenes. Here also, we will know how Essenes developed into christianity, the similarities and the differencies.

So, to babs787, the sect of Jesus are the Essenes. How logical is this? because the Essenes were a sect of extra-pious judaism monks or pharisees who lived in a place outside Jerusalem called Qumran and they've been existing for hundred of years before the birth of Jesus Christ. So, how can they be the sect of Jesus when Jesus openly taught against the Pharisees? See your povery of wisdom!! But in another thread, you said Paul founded christianity; and now it is essenes who developed into christianity. Blabs787, the worst situation any man can be is to display foolishness openly, and not know it, while thinking he is very wise. You are not wise but plain indolent.

These so called christians will be laughing at muslims keeping beard but never for a second think about the so called pictures being carried about and those pictures in their pictorial bible having beards.

Blabs787, It is quite unlikely that your folks are proud of you; it seems you've wasted the money they spent on your education. So whether the 'pictures' of Jesus have beard or not, how is that related to the "infallible character and teachings" of Jesus which is the matra for being a disciple of Christ. But contrast this to muslims in Nigeria or Ghana keeping beard because it is "sunnah" i.e. because muhammed-a quarish Arab-also keeps beard, it is pious for muslims to do so; but the character of your murderous paedophile of a prophet is another question. Do you see your myopic reasoning at work again as always?

One can go on and on revealling your indolent mind through your post; but you are a waste of space and time. Same as being alluded to many times on this forum by most people. Had it been that the 'muslima' is really interested in wisdom (obviously not), one would have seen it in her manner of asking questions. But to ask questions and the give her 'final' answers is an invitation to mutual foolishness. And as you can see, people of knowledge or "people of the books" (Christian wisdom recognised even by your lousy prophet Muhammed) have choosen to appropriately ingore you and your sister and her questions.
So, keep on wallowing in your infantile drivel. The blind leading the blind are all destined for the ditch; but I pray for you that your eyes be opened before it is too late. The same Cross you are campaigning against is the only route of peace and salvation; Jesus conquered on the Cross and He is now sitted on the right had side of God the Father making intercessions for your life,,,,,,,,if only you will heaken.!!

@All,
Can you see why I said this 'misright' and 'blabs787' have a lot in common especially regarding their intellectual poverty.
Obviously her position makes sense only to blabing 'blabs787' and he has started blabbing as always. But an intelligent look will see a person who asked a question and affirmatively provided an answerl eaving no room for disgression, but now asking others to come and give answer. Who else will make sense of such stupidity other than "blabs787" (?)

Backslider:
@Batu

I know what real wealth is and I am not against wealth (with no Sorrow). I know what is Godliness and contentment?. I don't even care what these people have. I know America very well to know that the cars they have they can't Keep because Insurance will take a lot of dough from you. If it were Nigeria I would say yes no problem.

I am never Jealous about their money or property. I left Naija for a particular reason. You can say all you like, there can be Godliness and Content that is my theme.

This pastor are living in million dollars houses and expensive cars and the house of Worship is under Mortgage.

Backslider,
You are very right, I despise what you represent: you are a loud and ignorant "Christian", a charlatan, and you've further confirmed your frustration with your disjointed thoughts. You "dont care what these people have" but at the same time you are whining about their "living in million dollar houses and expensive cars"
Can you post the link to where they are paying the mortgage for their church, or you are now just gainsaying and generalizing? No you are not jealous, you are just bitter and consumed by "poverty of thinking." What do you know about America apart from what you read from the silly websites where you copy the rubbish from?

I am however grateful that you agree that their doctrine is completely false.

In addition to your various lies, now you also have a problem with comprehension. I am not surprised, you are operating under the influence of the "spirit of confusionist", who is the "accuser of the brethren"; and not the Spirit of God. Where did I say their doctrine is false? Are you really alright?

Please brother Batu if You really don't like me but that is your candid opinion. All this people i have mentioned, if they repent before a bigger calamity fall on them and i know, I will be the first one to come here to tell you that they have repented.
This people according to the bible standard can not be called pastors or Bishop. There Church is the synagogue of Satan

Please, stop calling me your brother. You can call yourself a "Christian" but you are a charlattan and not a disciple of Jesus Christ. I think you need to see a psychiatrist, maybe you think you've died on the cross and resurrected just like Jesus Christ. The only "synagogue of satan" is your backsliden mind that appears to be the domain of the "enemy."

For once I'd like to see Christians actually answer these simple questions to back their false claims, it should be simple if he's real; but since he's not, you guys will never answer these questions without fumbling miserably.

@miswrong,
Okay, now this your position is intellectually handicapped. You asked some questions, and you provided your answer in a 'definitive mode' from your own best judgement; and you are now asking 'christians' to 'actually answer this question.'
There is a fellow on this nairaland called 'blabs787', you have a lot in common!!! Only one person has fumbled and failed miserably right from beginning, i.e you and your wisdom. All the best.

Romans 3:3. "What if some do not belief? Should their unbelief make the faithfulness of God without effet?; God forbid, let God be true and all men be liars".

mrpataki:
@ babs787,
Anyways you are sounding a bit more intelligent now as your postings on nairaland increases.

@pataki,
Are you really sure of that?; look at this statement from the erudite 'blabs101':

Quote from: babs787 on March 27, 2007, 12:58 PM

Moses was not a Jew but a Levi

This is synonymous with "blabs' is not a Nigerian but a Yoruba man." I think he is now more confused than before, because "in numerous words, there is,,,,,,,,,,,,,(guess what). If he honestly takes time to ponder over the posts of those taking time to reply him, he would have been better. But in a rush to reply from the islamic dogmatic mindset, he makes "intelligent" statements like the one displayed above.

@TV01 and Stimulus,
Thanks to you guys for your maturity and wisdom. I am in all total agreement with your positions and statement because the denominator of your posts is one virtue i.e Discernment! That is the responsiblity of every christian, no doubt!! I personally dont wait for 10 seconds before changing the channel whenever Juanita comes on the screen on my TV; but does it make me qualify to declare that she is a Jezebel and going to hell?, just as the "backsliding pharisee" is doing? The simple fact is her ministry might not be relevant to me personally, but others might find meaning in her teachings.

In the book of Acts in the Bible, we read of the Christians of Berea who after listening to Peter's preaching, the Bible stated that "they went home and searched the scriptures to verify what they were being taught." That is the responsiblity of every single christian; to study, grow and discern the words and thoughts of God personally even while learning under some leadership of Pastors or Bishops. While there could be justified criticism of personalities in the faith, that should stop short of irrelevant accusations and passing judgement of hellfire and brimstone as as is the doctrine of "the church of backslider" based on his own poor understanding.

In the "job description" of a Bishop/Pastor/Overseer etc as written in 1st Timothy 3, one of the points is that a Bishop should not be an object of justified criticism (paraphrased!!),so there is no excuse to exempt anybody from evaluating the life and teachings of any Pastor or Bishop. But when such evaluations are now induced by spirit of jealousy, envy and strife, it becomes easy to come under the influence of the 'enemy' and become an agent of serdition as Backslider has now "yielded his members" to become.
The question is, does he have a problem with Juanita, TD Jakes and Crefllo Dollar, etc 'really' because of legitimate doctrinal issues or just because they are prosperous and teaching among other things, that "above all things Christians should prosper, even as their soul prospereth"(?)

@Stimulus,
I think you are taking Backslider too seriously; you should not. Backslider is somebody whose knowledge is now setting him for 'backward sliding' through pride. He is now so ignorant that a casual look through his TD Jakes copy and paste shows somebody picking an arguement with somebody due to his own poor understanding and comprehension.

@Belloti,
who are you trying to deceive? yourself probably! You were the same person who supported the fatwa on the head of "unbelievers" in another post and now trying to play 'politricks' with this senstive issue. Are you a PR assistant for a wealthy intellectually-handicapped northerner? Probably!! This is the principle of TAQQIYA at work.

May the wrath of the living God fall on all those youths who shed the blood of this young teacher and rendered her 10 month old baby motherless. May their families, parents, guardians, Oustass etc partake in the fiery judgement of the living God on those who shed innocent blood. May the guilt of her blood fall on their entire generation to the third and fourth generation. These are not curses but just declaration of the judgement of the living God, as it is written. The only condition is for them to genuinely repent and ask God for forgiveness through faith in Jesus Christ. Saul was also a murderer before receiving Christ.

Anybody still wondering why the northern nigeria will always be economically, educationally, socially etc disadvantaged regardless of how much oil money they steal? well these are the generations of young marauders with brains of a cow being reared in the northern hegemony of Nigeria, to take over from the present indolent islamic leadership. Every single drop of blood that was shed or will be shed in the name of the idol called 'allah' will speak against islamic perpetrators in northern Nigeria. Barbarians!!!

belloti:
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,This technique of the west worked out and it started weakening the faith of the Muslims in particular the young generation of Spain.

The result was that the Catholics of the west wiped out Islam and conquered the entire Spain bringing an end to the
EIGHT HUNDRED LONG YEARS' RULE OF THE MUSLIMS in Spain. The last fort of the Muslims to fall was Grenada (Gharnatah), which was on the 1st of April. From that year onwards, every year they celebrate April fools day on
the 1st of April, celebrating the day, they made a fool of the Muslims.

They did not make a fool of the Muslim army at Gharnatah only, but of the whole Muslim Ummah. We, the Muslims, were fooled by the unbelievers. ,,,,,, WE ARE NOT FOOLS ANYMORE

@belloti,
So sorry for the whole 'foolish' muslim ummah up till today (your own very appellations not mine). Let's assume that this 'fallacy of a story' is true for just a second, that means the alcohol and cigarettes of the "unbelievers" must have been more powerful than the god of the muslim ummah for the followers fell for it. This latter statement is true however.
So, unfortunate for you because we now have all sorts and brands of alcohol in various packages that the followers of 'allah' can not resist by the power of allah.
So, we still have plenty alcohol in the world; the same powerless allah is still the god of muslims; and the muslim ummah are still drinking,,,,,, and falling,,,,, and still foolish because your power and hope is in a god that is less powerful than a glass of cold sparkling larger beer. .
NB: it is a good thing to speak out your mind, but it is always better to 'engage' your mind before speaking your mind out.

ishmael:
Is Allah not the same thing as Jehovah God?? Remember Abraham had 2 sons; Ishmael and Isaac.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, The Bible even stated it that Jehovah God blessed Ishmael and was with him through out.
My question is ,why do christians say that muslims do not worship the true God, Jehovah?? was the God of Abraham, Isaac and jacob different from the God of Ishmael?? if there is no difference then muslims worship the same God with the christians and prefer to call him using an arabic word Allah.

@Ishmael,
Where in the Al-Quran was it written that Muhammed/Muslims worship the God of Ishmael?? Yes, you are right that Ishmael is the progenitor of Arabs
Hagar raised an altar to worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (same God who 'rejected' Ishmael as heir) after God spoke to her concerning the baby she had i.e Ishmael. (Gen 15-17)

Now to answer your question directly: 'Allah' is an Arabic generic name meaning 'The God'; but which God?. Arab Christian can call God 'Allah' and they know they are referring to 'Jehovah' God (i.e specific or brand name). If there are Arab peoples who worship Ogun, the generic name for their 'god' in their language will still be 'allah', but they refer to 'Ogun' (specific or brand name). As such, the generic name for the god of muslims is also 'allah' but this god is not the same as Jehovah. To be specific, the generic name for the god of muslims is 'Allah' but the specific name of their god is 'Hubal'.(the moon God of fertility; this is why the moon crescent and star is displayed on top of all mosques).

So, 'allah' can be the Arabic word fo god, but to muslims allah does nor refer to Jehovah.

"Nigerian" Disrupted Church Service To Mark Abolition Of Slavery In London!

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/news/article06/280307

Hi guys,

A man with Nigerian background today disrupted the church service held at St Paul's cathedral to mark the abolition of Slave trade. His name is "Toyin Agbetu"; probably a British of Nigerian.

But I am so so so PROUD of him because he's got guts!!!. He walked in to the church service calmly, beating the security guards at their game, walked to a few feet away from the Queen and screamed SHAME ON YOU ALL, SHAME ON YOU ALL. Then he walked close to Tony Blair and looked him straight in the face and said YOU ARE A DISGRACE. As he was being moved out, he continued shouting, condeming the church service and Britain's refusal to apologise for the horror of slavery, saying the service was merely a memorial servce for William WIlberforce (British politician and anti-slavery campaigner), etc: all caught live on TV!!!.

I asked myself; Is he right or wrong to have disrupted the meeting? Really, I don't know, but he made me so proud because he's got guts men!!. That is the no-nonsense Nigerian blood in him.

Compared to the Ghanaians who were playing drums at the service to 'entertain' the Queen and the rest.

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/news/article06/280307

Belloti, the defender of the islamic faith,
Is that all you've got to say? "Total fallacy", what is the fallacy: that the female teacher was clobbered to death, or that the young mauruders were were muslims, or that they were chanting 'allau akbar'; or that they are the same as the suicide bombers; or that no reasonable islamic leaders has said anything to condemn the action, etc etc. Tell me please, what is the fallacy.? The only fallacy is ISLAM. Freaking barbarians!!

belloti:
For how long shall we continue to narrow the circumstances of Middle east to Islam alone. Have u seen any nigerian muslim with a strap yet? Islam should be separated from regional conflicts and Arab response to the global injustice to them. Arabs are mostly muslims and we feel their pain but we don't subscribe to terrorism just like we don't agree with the western hypocrisy.

Belloti,
This is a whole load of BS!!. Why not go and tell that "narrow the circumtances of Middle east" crap to Ms Oluwatosin Olusesan; the young female teacher who was brutally murdered by young boys in broad daylight in Gombe State while chanting Allau Akbar. What in your narrow-minded opinion is the difference between the suicide bomber who blows himself up in the name of your idol allah, and the "muslim" young murderers being "reared" in northern nigeria who also beat a female teacher to death also in the name of the same stupid idol called allah?.
You might not agree with perceived western hypocrisy or arab terrorism; but it does not remove the fact that wickedness prevails in the Islamic concept of religion, no matter the geographical location of the muslim. But how can you see it?
Imagine. those yong students are your future leaders, right? Have we heard anything from your indolent Sultan the spiritual leader or other islamic leaders with primordial thinking. No! The truth is in Islam those young muslim murderers are heroes because they've killed an 'infidel' in the name of allah. Barbarians!!

Mckren,
That is the case diagnosis of a totally outsmarted and confused bunch of people. How else would you know unserious people but by their action. Action congress indeed

Backslider:
@ donnie
We as Pure Christians are to stay out of politics! Our attention is on Godly living.

There he goes again. In other words, we as christians should bury our heads in the sand and not be responsible for changes in the society, while the rest of the society are making rules that we will be forced to live by.
Pharisee== 'the far they see, yet discern nothing'

@rapidly-backsliding-Backslider,
You've just confirmed your appelate of a flipping ignorant pharisee. (Note, this is not name-calling, but proper description of your position)
In 'your' judgement, Juanita Bynum can be described or can be seen in the long-post or Bible verse you displayed above.
Did she give her life to you or to Jesus?; did she appropriate for herself your sacrifice on the cross or that of Jesus?

Backsliding Bacslider, I am not defending Juanita, neither will I accuse her. Are your criticisms justified?; that is confounded by your own understanding or wisdom (which appears very limited with all due respect) since you've decided to copy and paste from a website.
Dont bother to post another long post from the Bible you've read but clearly do not understand just like your other Pharisees. Wear your phylacteries, and keep on shouting at the roof-top.

Backslider:
@Babyosisi
please I sincerely know that this woman is going to hell please Lord help this woman.

@Babyosisi,
My dear sister, I wonder why you are joining issues with 'backslider' who is seriously 'backsliding in faith' at a serious pace. If you read a couple of my last posts to him, I have warned him about his Pharisee-like faith. O' you generation of vipers, who are always so quick to condemn first and judge later. Backslider is like a fisherman who will rather first clean a fish, before catching it. No wonder his net of faith is likely to be empty.
A simple way to know a Christian who is not led by the Spirit of God is one who is always so quick to criticise and condemn. They are the ones with the large phylacteries, who prefer to shout out loud at the roof-top, make long prayers, choose the chief sits at the occasions. They claim to have read the Bible more than 10 times, but it is obvious the Bible has never read them. Look no further; Backslider is a chief among the Pharisee-christians. Perfect name for him.
He needs prayers because it appears he is frustrated. That is a ploy of the devil on immature but loud pharisees.
Rather than rejoice in tribulation, they give in to the devil, become bitter towards those that God is prospering calling them prosperity preachers. Backslider, relax and chill, God is in Control.

Babyosisi, I beg, go find something better to do after praying for this guy. I enjoy your posts.

@all,
just a digression; I am currently watching the 60th birthday ceremony organised for Mrs Maryam Abacha (remember her), with the feudal oligarchy in the north well represented. A funny point was a tearful remembrance of Sanni Abacha by people at the gathering, with diamonds and other bling-blings almost blinding the camera.
I mean in this same Nigeria, some people are remembring Sanni Abacha "tearfully"!!! Sincerely, we have no reason to be together as one nation.

@Mckren,
kindly ignore these pro-Atiku people. It really smacks of intellectual handicap when people decide to be become just headliners. Any sensible review of the BBC report and the summary by the committe will see that, based on the committee's report, no case can stand in any law court against OBJ. Stop reading just headlines peoples, and read the lines. A president who approves fund to be utilized for government projects without approval of the senate or FEC is still covered to some amount; but a VP who "illegally" approves fund withdrawal, into the "account of his friends" for private bussiness is another case entirely.

TV01:
Anyway, if my occasional glass of wine causes my brother to stumble, I will no longer drink at all, lest I cause the one for whom The Lord died to stumble. At that point, love trumps knowledge.

Words of wisdom and words on marble; thanks TV01!

@backslider,
I hope you will be able to see the scripture-backed doctrinal truth and divine wisdom in this small passage by TV01 I quoted above. Just as I told you yesterday, Christ is for Grace, Love and Peace rather than your over-pious doctrine of fire and brimstone your posts almost always exudes.

@All-the-resident-Atheists-in-the-House: babaearly, KAG, nferyn etc

Shalom! I have read all your arguements, and request for data of the efficacy of faith in Christ or existence of God. Now, here is one of the valid data from the only valid source; afterall logic suggests that a phenomenom operates according to a set of evidence.

Romans 1 vs 20-22:
(20): For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead (i.eDivinity); so that they are without excuse;
(21): Because that, when they knew God, they glorified Him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
(22): Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. (this is particularly poignant in this topic)

Now listen to the explanation of the verses:
God's Creation reveals two things about Him: His eternal power and Divinity. Creation reveals that God is powerful; hence man is obligated to Him and the fact that He is God. Importantly and very relevant here is the phrase that "they are Without excuse" in verse 20: this means that no man or woman including Richard Dawkins, philosopher, atheist, secular humanist, Epicurian or Stoic etc, will be able to stand before God and say that he/she turned away from God because God did not give any light or evidence of His existence. ALL men/women have had the revelation of God from creation. This Cosmological evidence for the existence of God from cause and effect is one of the logical arguements for the existence of God. As everything that exists must have an adequate cause; an all powerful and intelligent God is the ONLY adequate cause to explain the universe. The scriptures identifies that "cause" as the creative power of the Almighty God.(Ref: Genesis 1:1, Romans 1:19,20, Psalms 94:9)

Final word: It does not matter whether we, in our wisdom, believe in God or not; we are still going to be Judged by God. Additionally, it does not matter whether you believe in the scriptures or the Bible verses I quoted/referenced or not; we are all going to be judged by the very words of God in the Bible.
It is just like standing in path of a 40ft-high tidal wave and saying you do not believe in the wave or it's power; you are still going to be swept away whether you believe or not. Sounds like 'blind dogma' and rethorics to you(?),,,,,,,,,,well it might sound like that, but it's not! Peace.

Backslider:
@lewa
You see what I have been saying. The messages in these Prosperity Bible Church can never touch this matter.
The evil one has possessed the soul of this people and they are agents of the devil. However our warfare is not Canal but they are Mighty through God.
I personally believe that God is keeping Nigeria together because of the Christian Minority in the Muslim North and I know people that are in the South ( I was before) that feel that we should seize to exist as a nation.
We need to go to the north to strengthen the brethren with the word of the Lord.
May God strengthen the Brethren Amen!

1st @ Backslider,
You know what brother, I have been reading various of your posts and I'm getting worried about your so called spiritual state. You need to get back to reality and know what Jesus Christ is all about. His "message" is about Grace, Love and Mercy and not Fire and Brimstone, although His "judgement" is as a consuming fire.

You have a spirit of criticism; and one of the easiest ways for a true christian to know if he/she is under the leading of the Holy Spirit is to examine him/herself for the manner, way, reason and times that he/she criticises others, particularly of 'the faith'. This is an observation not just from the above post but very many of your posts in various topics. Stay blessed and watch carefully, lest he that thinketh he standeth should fall, bro!

belloti:
This story can not possibly be true, someone is only trying to be mischievious. No where in the world can this thing happen particularly sokoto where we have the largest concentration of churches in the heart of a muslims city. Ahmadu Bello way in sokoto has more churches than mosque located along that route.
Kevin Aje can not be so ungrateful to the harmonious relationship he is enjoying since his installation in front of my family house, when i was just a little kids. i can remember dancing and running around with the celebration train then.
The point is sokoto remains the most tolerant muslims city in the whole country.

Now @belloti,
It is quite interesting that you try to discredit this story by referring to the "number of churches in the heart of a Muslim city" and that "the number of churches on Ahmadu Bello way is more than mosques." While your assumption might be logical, it is absolutely not valid in this situation.
By constantly referring to Sokoto as a "Muslim city" points to a sub-conscious attitude of intolerance that educated folks like you can attempt to mask or cover, but the uneducated jammat in the heart of the "muslim city" who are in the majority are displaying it openly.

babs787:
@goodguy,

I myself thought that both (shahan & syrup) are the same being until I recently got to know everything you need to know about Shahan.

Honestly, if you have been reading their posts, you would have noticed that they wrote almost in the same style, sentence construction, diction etc.


Finally, to baby trinity, Shahan is different from Syrup. Get that straight.

Syrup, don't mind them, its called adoration. I wish I could be mistaken for Shahan or Syrup so that my head will be swelling up.

Ok now,
I have been reading the accusations and counter accusations of adorations and jealousy and actually finding it funny, until blabs707 came on the scene. Guys, lets chill and be at peace. Ok, it's good to admire another person whose inputs add knowledge; as human beings, we are always attracted to somebody with something we admire.

BTW, @blabs727 or whatever, if you "want to be mistaken for shahan or syrup", then you will have to seriously brush up on the 'depth and breadth' of your inputs; otherwise the ONLY person you wil be mistaken for is Alhaji Adedibu of Ibadan Guess why, bro!

Ugwumba:
If the so-called new generation of Nigerians cannot have a decent political discourse without resorting to a war of 'indecent' words, then I fear my older generation of activists have laboured in vain,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Finally, as we grow and mature, we must learn to respect the positions others have achieved in life.

The utter lack of respect shown to the Sultan here is irresponsible, at the very least, and downright disrespectful.

@Ugwumba,
You reasoning is not only incosistent, but also illogical. On one hand you claim the sultan has a right to make comment (I agree and alluded to that right in the beginning); but on the other hand you find fault in critisicing the comments of the sultan. So, freedom of expression is only when it alligns with your position?. I'm sorry but that is being indolent like the Sultan.

Had it been you have understanding of human right, you will have know that it also includes the right to critique, decosntruct, and rubbish another person's opinion. Whether it is to your taste or not is immaterial.
What is grossly irresponsible is the utter lack of respect that the sultan has shown to the unity of Nigeria by being a champion of devisive politics. He has clearly shown himself to represent the interest of ONLY (a) the North, and (b) muslims; and not the interest of Nigeria as an entity like other sensible/credible monarchs do. In addition, it is jointly irresponsible and myopic , therefore, to think a 'politically-incorrect' but direct critique of the sultan's statement is threathning the unity of Nigeria.