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I am really against core-Northerners being attacked in the SS. Two wrongs do not make a right and life is not given by man.
This is not to say, though that our self defence should be weak. We must be robust.

Personally, I prefer to be out of Nigeria; a country set up to fail, and people too blind and concerned about their own pockets to see.

kamuzu: LWKMO, Beaf don fade out.

Poor donkey. You people decided to carry out an id!ots protest yesterday for awuf like lazy phucks. And I made my stance known to you.
This new direction is what people should have been doing in the first place, protesting those that hold the nation by the jugular and who GEJ has refused to pay a further farthing. I heaven will, let it drop.

At last, people are beginning to protest for the right reason, instead of the sponsored one. So let it continue.
As I have said numerous times, go out and protest why your LG boss and governor still cannot develop your local community until; it stands on its own. Ask them why their only function is to share money from Abuja which they should have been funding as it is in normal countriees.

Why can the people not protest the salaries of the members of NASS who collect more money than Obama for doing fuckall?

For the first time these riots began, I can say aluta and mean it. Burn down Tinubu's houses if you are serious.

Have they set fire to Tinubu's house yet?

I strongly support the protest against individuals like Tinubu and co. This is the sort of thing we should have been doing from the very beginning.
Fight against corruption, but that does not go far enough. The real fight is against our phucked up system of govt and those who got us where we are today.

The above said, GEJ must not back down on the subsidy, instead more transparency and immediacy should be given to the palliatives.

[size=14pt]Nigeria heading for civil war – Soyinka[/size]
On January 10, 2012 · In News
6:32 pm

LONDON (AFP) -  Nobel laureate Prof Wole Soyinka warned on Tuesday that his country was heading towards a civil war, blaming political leaders who spread religious intolerance.

Asked whether he agreed with President Goodluck Jonathan that the current unrest was worse than the 1960s civil war, he told the BBC World Service: “It’s not an unrealistic comparison — it’s certainly based on many similarities.

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Prof Wole Soyinka

“We see the nation heading towards a civil war.”

Soyinka was also asked whether the unrest threatened the state of Nigeria itself, and replied: “It is going that way. We no longer can pretend it’s not.

“When you’ve got a situation where a bunch of people can go into a place of worship and open fire through the windows, you’ve reached a certain dismal watershed in the life of that nation.”

Soyinka said the issues raised by Islamist group Boko Haram, which was blamed for violence targeting Christians in the north of Nigeria and has sparked fears of a wider religious conflict, had been brewing for some time.

“There are people in power in certain parts of the country, leaders, who quite genuinely and authoritatively hate and cannot tolerate any religion outside their own,” he said.

“When you combine that with the ambitions of a number of people who believe they are divinely endowed to rule the country and who… believe that their religion is above whatever else binds the entire nation together, and somehow the power appears to slip from their hands, then they resort to the most extreme measures.

“Youths who have been indoctrinated right from infancy can be used, and who have been used, again and again to create mayhem in the country.”

He added: “Those who have created this faceless army have lost control.”

Soyinka, a dramatist and essayist, became Africa’s first Nobel laureate in literature when he won the prize in 1986.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/01/nigeria-heading-for-civil-war-soyinka/

This newsarticle is one of the most silly a news agency can make. People are so desperate to spite GEJ that their shiit is now total comedy.
So, what did Yar Adua buy 1600 buses for? To play with?

Rubbish.

[size=14pt]AZAZI: Combating a common terrorist threat[/size]
Time for a strategic security relationship between the U.S. and Nigeria
By Owoye Andrew Azazi
The Washington Times
Wednesday, January 4, 2012

ABUJA, NIGERIA

Terrorists from Nigeria have again turned the joyful celebrations of Christmas into a D-Day for premeditated mass murder. This year, extremists slaughtered worshippers in a church during Christmas services near the Nigerian capital and elsewhere in the country.

America is at risk for this type of violence. Two Christmases ago, a militant from my country - the infamous Underwear Bomber - tried to blow up an American jetliner over Detroit.

Nigeria welcomes the White House’s rapid Christmas Day declaration of support against the perpetrators of that day’s attacks, but we must stress that the threat emerging in our country is far larger and may be headed America’s way.

It’s time for a strategic security relationship between Nigeria and the United States.

Nigeria is Africa’s most populous nation. We are blessed with more people than Russia or Japan and are America’s fourth-largest foreign supplier of oil.

In the past two years, a group called Boko Haram has wounded and murdered hundreds of innocent Nigerians. Many observers in the United States and Nigeria dismissed Boko Haram as a tiny, weak, even incompetent terrorist group that, at best, was aimed only at destabilizing our democratically elected president.

They were mistaken. In August, Boko Haram escalated its attacks by sending a suicide bomber to blow up the United Nations building in Abuja. The terrorist group issued a statement to taunt not the president of Nigeria, but the president of the United States.

We can destroy Boko Haram in its early stages, before it goes truly international. We don’t want or need American troops. But we would benefit greatly from American know-how and other forms of support as we develop our new counterterrorism strategy. We have much to offer through our own expertise, human resources and experience.

Well before the Christmas bombings, a subcommittee of the House Committee on Homeland Security held a hearing on Boko Haram and issued a landmark report that contained some excellent proposals.

“Historically, Boko Haram has been focused on Nigerian government targets. Until recently, Western intelligence services did not widely view Boko Haram as a potential threat,” said Rep. Patrick Meehan, Pennsylvania Republican and chairman of the subcommittee on counterintelligence and terrorism, and Rep. Jackie Speier, California Democrat, in an unusual joint statement at the Nov. 30 hearing.

The lawmakers made a bipartisan call for the State Department and intelligence community to take greater note of Nigeria, and to work with us against terrorism and ideological extremism.

The subcommittee report is a fine first step. It observes that small extremist groups can quickly endanger the American homeland before Washington even recognizes the threat.

Like other Islamist extremists, Boko Haram sees itself as fulfilling part of a global mission. Churches are not the group’s only religious targets. Boko Haram claims to be Islamic, but targets the Muslim faithful. Boko Haram is an enemy of all decent people. It is striving to spark a religious war the way racist extremists in the past have tried to provoke race wars. Those who fail to understand the enemy threat doctrine will fail to see the danger until it is too late.

The subcommittee leaders appear to agree: “In the recent past, the U.S. intelligence community has underestimated the intent and capability of other terrorist groups to launch attacks against the U.S. homeland,” and did not foresee those groups attempting to strike the U.S. at home. “These assessments and general assumptions,” Mr. Meehan and Ms. Speier said, “nearly proved fatal” in America.

The report’s conclusions mean that each country requires the assistance from the other. So far, however, the bipartisan congressional recommendations have yet to become U.S. policy, even as the U.S. Africa Command has made clear its similar concerns. The State Department, however, has yet to designate Boko Haram as a terrorist organization.

Nigeria’s president intends to create a climate where no supporter of terrorism will be safe. In November, Nigerian authorities made the unusual move of arresting a federal senator from the president’s own party, based on intelligence that he was facilitating Boko Haram.

Such an arrest and prosecution of a sitting lawmaker is rare in any democracy. The severe action indicates both the profound nature of the threat as well as Nigeria’s sense of purpose in wiping it out.

The congressional homeland security panel called for the administration to “increase its support for programs that enhance the ability of Nigerian security forces to more effectively target Boko Haram and counter its evolution.”

Such support will certainly assist Nigeria and West Africa as a whole, but it will also be a low-cost, high-impact way of eradicating Boko Haram - and others like it - as a threat to the United States as well.

With recent developments reverberating across Africa, Nigeria is working out strategic partnerships with key players to track and neutralize extremists wherever they may be - before they become violent. We should not be seen merely as a tactical ally of convenience. The United States has been helpful on a small-scale basis, but is far behind other countries in forging a meaningful, strategic counterterrorism relationship with Nigeria.

Nigeria can defend its interests without U.S. support. But the United States cannot well defend its homeland from Boko Haram and other threats without Nigeria. We welcome a mutually beneficial partnership with the U.S. against terrorists like Boko Haram while there is still time.

Owoye Andrew Azazi is national security adviser to Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/4/combating-a-common-terrorist-threat/print/

When people protest out of sentiment rather than commonsense, things are bound to turn sentimental.
This unfortunate event marks the end of the occupy protest; it will now likely be put done with brutal methods. I pray everyone returns home safely without further loss of life.

poweredcom:
You must be a sycophant, what do you know about change, is it to betray the poor, or what, what is been subsidized when you did not put anything in place, before you subsidies, january 1st you just came in and scatter people.plan for the new year, bleep Jonathan is the a fool and not even fot to be a local government chairman, I sorry for Nigeria

Be sorry for yourself. You don't own everybody.

aso ebi:
Before it was islamization, But now it is self defense so which are we to believe
Chei naija is in deep shi.t and i weep for my dear country 9IGERIA

Exactly! They wanted Nigeria to become a sharia country, now some fools are chatting shiit here as if they are members of boko haram (you never know!).

We can safely begin to point fingers at NL members as boko haram members.
Maybe somebody will tell us next, that the suicide bombers only wanted to play with children and only exploded by mistake.

freegaza:
@Efisher If you want to see faces of boko haram check france24 they have been showing the video and picture of Abubakar shekau since last 3 days

See who is supporting the occupy protestS! Thank God the real backers of the protests are revealling themselves without any pressure, oil marketers, politicians and boko haram.

https://www.nigeriapolitico.com/nigerian-news/images/stories/boko%20haram%20propaganda.jpg

He also said as untrue claims that they are going to attack protesters, saying it is false as they are in total support of the peoples’ struggle and behind the Nigerian people.

I pity gullible NLers, especially those openly supporting boko haram here. Shame on all of you.

Boko haram bombed the church and asked Christians to leave the North. Has Abul Qaqa been dumb all this time, especially with his previous claims to bombing churches? He is the boko haram spokesman that always speaks to the press.

What is the meaning of this unintelligent hook below?

He also said as untrue claims that they are going to attack protesters, saying it is false as they are in total support of the peoples’ struggle and behind the Nigerian people.

It is easy to see that the article is at the instance of the protest sponsoring politicians or importers. Whose struggle is boko haram behind? Mine? Tufia!

CyberG:
The SS protested, or is Port Harcourt and Delta no longer part of the SS. Check the thread with pictures as it is on NL here! The only pity is for poor people who cannot have a life again with buying gas at 140 per liter!

What, you mean two or three NLC officials called "tunji" walking about is a protest? Lol!
Abeg, we don't have time for nonsense in the SS.

Hardunnii:
I dont need your hug, but i can make do with oil money

Choi! Your eyes de shine wella!
You see why nobody is doing the right thing and protesting against corruption?

By the way, my hug is good o! Nice strong arms to make you melt. lol!

CyberG:
. . .Continued. . .

Like I have said before, when Nigeria breaks, I think my Igbo friends would accept that for the sake of collective good, every one should just stay apart. In the virtual world, we may still connect and communicate as we must avoid another NIGERIA. Bello, Zik and Awolowo had a grand chance to save us the headache of today and while some of those 3 wanted a different arrangement of "Nigeria", we know how we ended up with all these troubles. So, in the face of a break-up, their shall be VERY clearly marked and divided countries and things like I was born in Kano, Owerri, Port-Harcourt, Lagos, Kaduna, etc will be totally irrelevant for people's lineage shall be traced by CONCLUSIVE DNA analysis to know if they belong or not. I think it would be good idea to put clear physical and legal markings between the East, Mid West and West and other places in the new countries. Every non-native must leave within 2 - 4 weeks with everything they possess - house, cars, business, relatives, kids and what not. Houses can be moved these days and there are lots of ideas on Discovery Channel.

In the new countries, there shall be no temporary or permanent resident visas because this WILL be abused and then, all the relatives are gradually transported back again. This is a real issue and it can be attested to by everyone in the North, East, West of Nigeria. There shall be no naturalization and being cross-married would not still give any rights in the land and an appropriate solution that takes care of this scenario might need to be created - perhaps a buffer zone in the mid west. I am sure a lot of people are tired of several problems created by parts of Nigeria and we would be happy to relate to the tribes of the middle belt, close mid west and have trade treaties with other major tribes who are far away but again, no joining at all! It would be a total waste for any tribe to be claiming that its is 90% of the population of a land it rents in another 100 years, or people being ungracious for welcoming hosts who allow them to have a life on their own land and resources, people who you treat well but still stab you in the back, complain again and again, who cannot work together with others as a team sharing both glory and blame in the spirit of true brother-hood, people who cannot work as a team but believe in so called individualism (whereas every successful top company in the world will not hire even a genius if they know he CANNOT work together with his team and others), people who do not believe in diplomacy, common good, etc. Let us all go and develop on our own, making friends with people who truly like us and playing this cat and dog game forever!

The SS too decided not to protest, as did the Middle Belt or did so peacefully (except Kwara).
You are on your own with your violent protests like say na una even de produce di oil or de breath di gas flares.

Pity.

@jp philips
Please try to cut down your volumes of text when you post. It doesn't make sense to write so much most of the time.

As to your charge about the SW being more litterate than the SE, I put that down to ignorance. After Lagos state, the states with the highest litteracy rates are in the SE. Ok? Before you put on the next ethnic gown, I am not from the SE.

As for SE/SS fighting alone (whatever that means), most of you do not realise just how tired of Nigeria those two regions are. Instead of the rest to see this as an opportunity to move away from oil and get their states generating revenue, they are on the warpath. Instead of them to observe the calm in the oil producing areas, they are burning things in a display of ethnic arrogance. Do we not all want true federalism? Under true federalism would you have a subsidy? If not, why the hypocricy? Why cry louder than those whose lands have been polluted and whose air carries cancer, don't you think it is an irony? IMHO, they deserve the subsidy more than you, but they are calm.
At the rate things are going, you might not even have oil to share in the near future, talkless of rioting because of it.

Hardunnii:
Lol, thats what i thot

Ok, please forget about the otapiapia business, I thought you were carrying out "enemy" action.
--hugs Hardunnii --

Hardunnii:
Beaf told us south south is also igboland, are u rejecting them now

You see how you people tell lies? The whole of NL politics section (except donkeys) knows that I am not Igbo and I am from the SS.
Go and drink otapiapia to calm your nerves.

emiye:
You have refused to answer the questions.

God will punish you folks deceiving some gullible nigerians.

ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ! This is not time for toronto poo,

I wish you people would be refined and polished, instead of being so hate-filled and bitter. Please face the fact that Tinubu is sponsoring the riots and driving them with ethnic bigotry, because his subsidy money is gone.
Imagine people buying fuel from our refineries, forging documents, loading it on ships and collecting subsidy money? Lol! Business don hend!

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Phuck off. This is not a thread for fools.

emiye:
So if i as a oil marketer import N141 worth of petrol to Nigeria, and Government compels me to sell at N65 to Nigerians, and then pay me the differentials of N76. TELL ME WHAT BAD I HAVE DONE?.

Even your Oga, GEJ admits that the so called "cabals" are doing legitimate business.

WHY ARE YOU DECEIVING SOME GULLIBLE NIGERIANS?

It is when you start forging documents that you have done bad. It is when you have corrupted all govt organs with huge sums, turning the place into one huge forgery empire. Tinubu is well known for forgery with his various "Toronto" certificates and fake name, so whats new?

GEJ, I believe is only being diplomatic, because he is sorrounded. But he has pulled the trigger now, so lets see how far Tinubu's troops can live in the trenches.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=842645.msg9931904#msg9931904 date=1326168314]Oh my God!! I cant believe you have some little light left shining in your brain. Thats good!

It is true that people need a unifying creed to march uniformly forward on but I disagree that we do not have it. Our creeds and unity exist at the tribal level. Outside that we see foreigners and strangers. That should be our guiding principle the seed from which we ought to recognize that at national level we are foreigners and nothing is common amongst us. I see the Igbo or the Hausa the way I see Libyan or Cameroonian, nothing in common with my Yoruba ancestry and creed, they are people. When I see Yoruba person I see myself in them, I sacrifice for them, I yield for them. . . all in ways that I would never contemplate yielding for a Libyan, Cameroonian, Igbo or Hausa. . . . because they are foreign people.[/quote]Ok, so for you, it was evidently "occupy Lagos."
Hopefully, the nakeed truth will out itself a lot more on this thread. The question of what is wrong with the average Nigerian finds an answer above, so I will begin compiling a list:

[list]
[li]Ethnic bigotry or racism[/li]
[li]Lack of a sense of belonging[/li]
[li]Fear of other ethnic groups[/li]
[/list]

Quite clearly, any of the above can severely distort ones perceptions and reactions. Could this be the reason why there were violent riots in places like Lagos and Kano, while there were practically none in places like Jos, Onitsha, Makurdi, Warri and Enugu?

sheyguy:
@OP,
How do u cope with industries in developed nations when your port can't process and clear imported raw material alone, b4 its foreign counterpart gets their finished product into Nigeria.
There are lots of factors mitigating against your charge to local govts and states govts. There is also the factor of power, roads, and subsidy which there competitors accros borders are enjoying. How does the common man who has to hustle extra hard to afford basic things like good car for his transport, and house to live thìnk of going industrial in the first place?
The structure of our govt gives the necesary power to FG when its comes to thinks like Justice, power,importation and border control. I think u shld honestly quit this distraction game u r playing for the ruling PDP/GEJ, the Fg has to transfer the bulk of power to the regions or states b4 your suggestion above will be worth following.

A similar proposal was made to the state govs, but they rejected it. The proposal was to make LG's the most important drivers of development (as it is across the developed World) with weakened FG and states.
My surprise is that people do not pick up such things that are fundamental to true federalism and future developmental prospects. Why would people not demonstrate about such things?
This thread is about finding out what is wrong with the average Nigerian. Some might say they are ignorant of the FG moves to decouple LG and states, but such shocking ignorance is only a part of the question about what is wrong with the average Nigerian.

Is it true that Northerners are being attacked? Or is it just that alj haram has sniffed too much carmels arse as usual?
Who lives in Yaba?