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Gbawe:
Is that what it is ? No wonder he appears more frustrated than usual.

@topic.

I would expect sense to prevail but it seems most Politicians have opted to support the cowardice of GEJ. It has been proven , beyond doubt , that only 3  marketers existed not too long ago. Now there are many scores- all put in place by political opportunism under PDP Presidents . The best option is for GEJ to sanitise the system so that genuine marketers who were recieving far less than the N1.3 trillion paid recently over eleven months as subsidy can continue to deliver a sensible level of subsidized fuel to Nigerians.

This arrangement should be short term and pending till the feul sector is deregulated and refineries are working optimally. Instead this anti-people President chose to make Nigerians bear the burden of his cowardice and inability to embrace a reforming atitude instead of a gradualist and defeatist one. Let us remember that this man's first action in office was to capitulate to the AGIP via announcing that "leaner Government not possible". With fuel subsidy removal, he would rather punish Nigerians than tackle the scammers and their corrupt actions, in full collusion with the NNPC, that have made the cost of subsidy skyrocket to the level of a sick joke. All this just because we have a President who does not believe in confronting or punishing those holding the Nation back.

In your urge to display the usual acrobatic id!ocy, you forgot to read the clear proof that Fashola led the governors committee that first demanded that the subsidy be removed. But I posted about ACN and hypocrisy earlier on, so no biggies.

The bunch of cowards are now shivering like pansies; they should stand aside when men are moving rocks.

^
Haters gon' hate.

@topic.

[size=14pt]Governors Urge FG to remove fuel subsidy[/size]

A major showdown is imminent over the N18,000 minimum wage.

Governors have asked the Federal Government to immediately remove subsidy on petroleum products and haul the proceeds into the Federation Account to be shared. This, in their view, will give the states more cash to pay the least paid worker N18,000.

But labour seems to be opposing the removal of subsidy as a pre-condition for the implementation of the law on the payment of the minimum wage.

The governors took the decision to press for the removal of subsidy on petrol products, which the government says costs billions monthly at the Nigeria Governors’ Forum (NGF) meeting on Tuesday night in Abuja.

Besides removal of subsidy, the governors insist on the need to review the revenue allocation formula, which is lopsided in favour of the Federal Government.

It takes 52 per cent. The 36 states share 26.72 per cent and the 774 local governments take 20.60 per cent.

The Lagos State Governor Babatunde Fashola Committee raised by the governors has recommended a review of the revenue allocation as follows: Federal Government (35 per cent), States (42 per cent) and local governments (23 per cent). The report has been approved by the Forum.

The implementation of that report topped the agenda of the governors’ delegation’s meeting with President Goodluck Jonathan yesterday at the Aso Villa in Abuja.

The governors’ delegation was led by Rivers State Governor Rotimi Amaechi, who is also the chairman of the Forum. Other members of the seven-man team are Governors Fashola (Lagos), Tanko Makura (Nasarawa), Murtala Nyako (Adamawa), Sullivan Chime (Enugu), Adams Oshiomhole (Edo) and Patrick Yakowa (Kaduna).

http://ekoakete.com/2011/06/23/governors-urge-fg-to-remove-fuel-subsidy/

Funny lot! Their governors were the first to call for removal of the subsidy, so lets kindly call them hypocrites.

JamesDoe:
LOOKS LIKE BEAF IS ON HiS PERIOD.

The dirty clot!

It looks like winshes are flying!
Obubra airways!

Yeah, we wanna die without reason!
Where is the revolution gonna take place? I need to enrol some monkeys and assorted braindead types.

[size=14pt]Budget 2012 reflects FG stance on cassava bread[/size] .
Wednesday, 14 December 2011 14:10 SIAKA MOMOH

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cassava bread
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It is now clear that the decision by the federal government to make Nigerians adopt 40 percent cassava bread is one that government is very serious about, the Nigerian Budget 2012 presented Tuesday by President Goodluck Jonathan has confirmed.

According to the budget, government is introducing policies to encourage the substitution of high quality cassava flour for wheat flour in bread-baking, bakeries will have 18 months in which to make the transition, and will enjoy a corporate tax incentive March 31st 2012, importation of cassava flour will be prohibited so as to further support this programme.

It would be recalled only recently, President Goodluck Jonathan formally presented to Nigerians a loaf of bread made from 40 per cent cassava flour, with a promise that he would continue to consume the brand in office as president and that government would put policy in place to drive the project. “All equipment for processing of high quality cassava flour and composite flour blending will enjoy a duty free regime as incentive to bakers for composite flour utilization.

Consultations with the sector to ensure a smooth transition are on-going,” President Jonathan said. He argued it is common wisdom that the best way we can grow our economy and create jobs for our people is for us to patronize Nigerian-made goods. “This is why we are introducing enabling policies to drive this process. In this regard, we are introducing fiscal policy measures that will encourage the purchase and utilization of locally produced commodities.”

The president said from July, 2012, wheat flour would attract a levy of 65 percent to bring the effective duty to 100 percent, while wheat grain will attract a 15 percent levy which will bring the effective duty to 20 percent. President Jonathan said government “intends to process and add value to different crops such as rice, cassava, sorghum, oil palm, cocoa, cotton etc. “This approach is central to our transformation strategy.

[b]Accordingly, this Administration has adopted enabling measures to support the development of private sector-driven marketing institutions, and push for policies that would promote our agriculture to create jobs. To unleash the potential of this sector, the Federal Ministry of Finance has put in place a mechanism to share risks with the banking sector by guaranteeing 70 percent of the principal of all loans made for supply of seeds and fertilizer by the private sector this season.

In addition, to get the inputs to farmers at an affordable cost, we are subsidizing the interest rate on these loans to bring it down from 15 percent to 7 percent per annum. The Minister of Agriculture and the Central Bank are collaborating to extend these services for credit availability for the medium term.”

He said government would introduce further fiscal policy measures to support the development of the agricultural sector. “In this respect, the duty on machinery and certain specified equipment for the sector will, effective January 31, 2012, attract zero duty. We will further look at supportive fiscal policies for the rice and wheat sectors to stimulate domestic production,” he said.[/b]

http://www.businessdayonline.com/NG/index.php/news/latest/30877-budget-2012-reflects-fg-stance-on-cassava-bread

Batam:
It will simply go into the pocket of our so called co-r-rupt leaders and their cronies like beaf.

Another micro-mind on parade!

JamesDoe:
The above has been going on for at least the last 5 years,

GEJ has been in power for two of those five years and the number two man for three of those years.

Apart from the removal of "subsidy", his roadmap is still unclear. The govt should sell the refineries to competent third parties, privatise NNPC (retain a strategic minority stake) and incentivise the private sector,

Subsidy has been going on for only 5 years?
Wetin pesin no go hear for dis NL!
The above post is so ridiculous that it is almost impossible not to laugh out loud! Did IBB and Abacha rule in the last 5 years?

Best watch quietly from the sidelines, than say things that show you in unflattering light.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=824709.msg9763078#msg9763078 date=1323867234]Ok I see but I have evidence that Nigeria consumption of fuel is even higher than predicted by NNPC.

but lets assume you are absolutely correct, Now if NNPC cannot produce that fraction you are talking of, would we not be experiencing fuel scarcity very other week ?

Nigeria cannot produce the petrol it consumes fact.

Now I would like to explain how like of IBB and co made their wealth but it is too long for me to type down but I would give you a hint if you are less busy, you can research about it.

From crude oil exportation alone, the exporter and the refinary make money also keep some refined product to themselves

when it has been refine, the export can make 10 times his profit as he feels like thus fuel scarcity

then NNPC does not have a large enough storage to store our oil and thus private owned reservoirs make money and also keep some oil to themselves.

Thus at this point the exporter has made 20 times his profit

then he then takes some of the stored crude oil to the black market and makes even more money

at the end of the day the export aka onado and co have made 30 times more profit of what they were meant to make.

Why because they have taken advantage of the situation of the FG and NNPC.

I would tell you the truth now my brother, if the government removes subsidy, it would not stop the profit of the importers

Subsidy is only a small part of the profit and milking of the importers. FACT !!!

the government would be very easy to dupe if they do not build the refinary

The NNPC aka the government would still buy oil from this people . if before they buy it for 20 billion naira at 65 naira per liter, now the exporter can call it 30 billion naira at 145 naira per liter apart from the subsidy money if the government wishes.[/quote]Dude, first of all, thanks for that illuminating post.
The removal of the subsidy is not just about the govt ceasing to pay importers. It is about complete overhauling and deregulation, so nobody is expected to be able to export crude, only to reimport it, smuggle it Cotonou and get 100% paid for the evil effort by the FG. The whole system is changing and the bloodsuckers are getting swept away. I imagine that new rules would mean each importer having to reapply. . . You know the drill!

[quote author=A-ZeD link=topic=824709.msg9763132#msg9763132 date=1323867704]Its posts like this that make people call you GEJ spokesperson, Scrapping NNPC and removing fuel subsidy does not stop corruption, The money saved from fuel subsidy would still be handled by this so called people or are the people going to manage the saving from subsidy fall from heaven??

I agree with you that the figures bandied around are FALSE, but GEJ should first be concerned about getting the right figure with an error margin of about 5%,[/quote]People say that to cover their relative lack of intelligence. I'm used to it.
Next!!!

The fast tracking of the Mambilla project that will supply a whopping 2,600MW and take us closer to 8,000MW is very good news.
Little by little, we be inches forwardly!

Nice one GEJ! There is also, "small-scale power projects would be uniquely adapted to stimulate and sustain all year round agriculture." It is hard to quantify the employment benefits such a system would bring. It would project Nigeria right slam on the high-tech agricultural scene, that along with our satellites in space to provide accurate weather and season forcasts for agriculture.

I am almost dancing with happiness!

[size=14pt]Zero-subsidy Regime And Electricity[/size]
Wed, 14/12/2011 - 5:24am | TONY EGBULEFU
Opinion

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Government’s position on the propriety of fuel subsidy removal have been subjects of severe attacks from diverse quarters, some of them dripping ill will and malice.

These attacks, however, resonate with some paradox—a government that shows will and sincerity of purpose to make things happen, even when employing tough policies becomes an option should ordinarily earn commendations and not condemnation.

But what today comes as a knock-out punch on those whose only argument against the government’s proposed fuel subsidy removal is that it is anti-people, is the recent emergence of a codified articulation of government’s expenditure plan for the resources that would come its way in the post-subsidy era. The document, tagged: Subsidy Reinvestment and Empowerment Programme (SURE), captures in minute details, how the federal government plans to spend its share of N633 billion from the fund to be freed with the proposed zero-subsidy regime. And more good news is that the document well reflects a strong will and commitment of government to respect its words.

According to the document, the federal government would channel its own share of the resources into a combination of programmes to stimulate the economy and alleviate poverty through critical infrastructure and safety net projects, adding that cushioning the bite of the zero-subsidy regime is critical to the federal government.  Consequently, the document said, the negative impact of the policy would be mitigated through properly targeted safety net programmes including public works and employment schemes, maternal and child health, mass transit programmes and vocational training and skill acquisition schemes.

The experiences of some countries, that once found themselves in the same position with Nigeria today, are reassuring enough to the government that indeed, the edge would be taken off the zero-subsidy sting with an action plan that would dedicatedly give to the people what a subsidy regime could not offer. Examples from Indonesia, Iran and Brazil are sufficient in this direction.
The SURE programme document also provides for a transformation of the economy, in line with the vision 20: 2020 objectives, with critical infrastructure projects in the power, roads, transportation, water and downstream petroleum sectors.

For those in perpetual distrust of government, the document details a governance architecture that seeks to guarantee probity and accountability. The funds and its programmes are to be entrusted to the hands of a board, whose activities would be subject to a routine check-up by a reputable international auditing firm. The proposed board would be all-inclusive. It is saddled with a broad-spectrum of terms of reference to ensure that the goods are delivered.

Barring the broader inclusiveness of the board and the wider abuse checks, integrated in its operations, the board and its job descriptions mirror the upsides of the defunct Petroleum Task Fund, PTF. The board chairman would be an experienced person of excellent reputation and integrity. Other members  are a deputy chairman, six reputable individuals, one from each of the six geo-political zones and a representative of the civil society organisations; the labour union, Nigerian women groups; Nigerian youths; the Nigeria Union of Journalists, NUJ; a co-ordinating minister of Finance; minister of National Planning Commission; minister of Petroleum Resources; and minister of State for Health.

[b]For the needed transparency, the board in liaison with the ministry of Finance and ministry of Petroleum Resources would determine the subsidy savings estimates for each preceding month and ensure that such funds are transferred to the funds’ special account with the Central Bank of Nigeria, CBN. In the area of power, which has posed an intractable challenge to successive governments, and into which huge national resources have been sunk, the Jonathan government, has under the proposed zero-subsidy regime, laid out plans to further drive the power sector reforms by improving the generation capacity, not just through hydro, but with coal power plants. The SURE programme is also billed to make available, adequate counterpart funding for a fast-tracked construction of the stymied Mambilla hydro-power project, a colossal power plant which will generate an additional 2,600 megawatts of electric power. The SURE programme will also effectively provide funding that would lead to the completion of a total of 17 small and medium hydroelectric power projects, conceived by the Jonathan government with a cumulative capacity of 140.275 megawatts.

These small-scale power projects would be uniquely adapted to stimulate and sustain all year round agriculture, within the projects’ domains. As the SURE programme document states, “given the small size of these projects, they will be isolated and embedded in agricultural development economic corridors, which will contribute to enhancing the agricultural value chains for increased production, in line with the transformation agenda.”
Also remarkable is the fact that the 17 small and medium scale power plants are conceived with an eye on quick wins—they would require a short turn-around time by their brief nature-such that they can be delivered in good time within the first three years of the SURE programme.[/b]

The idea behind this accelerated approach is rooted in the president’s desire to leave a remarkable difference in the power situation of the country. The SURE programme is also billed to provide counterpart funding for Public Private Partnerships, (PPPs) for the development of coal power projects in Enugu, Benue, Kogi and Gombe states, all of which are reckoned to have a cumulative potential of generating 1000 megawatts of power.

If these projects come on stream, they would substantially lead us the path of the power sufficiency that is required to rejuvenate the nation’s economy and inch it closer to attainment of the goals of vision 20: 2020. But this would, however, come with a catch-our collective willingness to give room for change.

—Egbulefu is an Abuja-based policy analyst

http://www.leadership.ng/nga/columns/10486/2011/12/14/zero-subsidy_regime_and_electricity.html

[size=14pt]Fresh Air![/size]

[size=14pt]Subsidy? Where Would the Savings Go?[/size]
Hassan Abubakar
14 December 2011

opinion

Now, one emerging character of President Goodluck Jonathan administration is its ability to remain focused even in the face of strenuous efforts at distraction by all sorts of self serving groups and individuals.

And there is unarguably no other policy of the administration that such groups have tried to earn political capital out of in recent times than the Jonathan's administration plan to complete the deregulation of the downstream sector of the petroleum industry.

I have observed, for example, how debates on deregulation have been reduced to the single item of removal or non-removal of subsidy either out of genuine ignorance or mischievously for the simple sake of appealing to popular sentiments. But in spite of such efforts at distraction, the Jonathan administration has kept its eyes on the ball, strategising on how the final deregulation of the downstream will not only helping the transformation of the economy, but will be beneficial to all Nigerians.

The key aspect of this is a very revealing document tagged Subsidy Reinvestment and Empowerment Programme that comprehensively and methodically addressed the concerns of some of us whose major arguments against deregulation have been government's failure to provide a roadmap on how savings to be made from the removal subsidy will be spent.

[b]For instance, the focus has been on how the Federal Government will spend extra revenue that will accrue to it from savings to be made from the removal of subsidy. But I pleasantly learnt from the Subsidy Reinvestment and Empowerment Programme document that it is actually the three tiers of government that will gain increased revenue as a result of the implementation of the policy.

At a projected price of $90 per barrel, it is estimated that the total projected subsidy savings per annum will be N1.3trillion. Federal Government's share of the savings will be N633billion, while states and local governments will receive N349 billion and N269 billion respectively as additional revenue annually.

The additional revenue that will accrue to the States and Local Governments will unarguably help assuage the crucial financials needs of the two tiers of government, especially in regard to the present difficulties they are having in meeting their social obligations.

I will therefore like the States and the LGAs to come up with plans on how they will spend their own portions of the savings. On its own part, the Federal Government succinctly in the document listed out a combination of programmes that will help stimulate the Nigerian economy and alleviate poverty through investments in critical infrastructure and safety net projects that it will spend its share of the savings on.

For example, the Federal Government indicated that the savings will facilitate additional investments in the power sector, roads, transportation, water and even, in the downstream petroleum sectors itself. These are sectors that are crucial to the transformation of the Nigerian economy and that can help nudge the country towards the achievements of the much talk about Vision 20:2020 objectives.

The savings will also lead to a reduction in the extent of borrowing needed by Federal Government to finance projects and meet its other statutory obligations. This will help address the problem of budget deficit, and will be in line calls to bring the nation's domestic debt, which over the years has grown to about N6 trillion under control in order to ensure a realistic economic growth.

The government also in the document addressed the concern of some of us on the likely impact of removal of subsidy on the vulnerable segment of our society with well articulated and well targeted safety net programmes, public works and employment schemes, maternal and child health, mass transit programmes and vocational training and skill acquisition schemes.[/b]

If well implemented, there is no doubt that these programmes will help in mitigation of the potential impact of the discontinuation of the subsidy regime on the underprivileged segment of our society.

There will be no acceptable excuse for shoddy or non implementation of the programmes contained in the Subsidy Reinvestment and Empowerment Programme anyway given the specificity of the document.

The document specifies savings that will be invested in the building of hydro and coal plants in the power sector to further enhance Nigeria's electricity generation capacity. The plants, their location and expected generation capacity were carefully itemised in the document.

[b]The counterpart funding for the construction of Mambilla hydro power project that will generate an additional 2,600 Megawatts of electric power, more than 50 per cent of total generation in the country at the moment is expected to be sourced from the savings.

Other 17 Small and medium hydroelectric power projects that will add a cumulative capacity of 140.275 MW to the national grid will also be completed with funds derived from savings made from removal of subsidy. The good news about the projects is that apart from providing rural electricity as a result of their locations, they will be isolated and embedded in a way that will help in the development of agriculture value chains.

The savings will also enable government to provide counterpart funding for public private partnership projects for development of Coal Power projects in Enugu, Benue, Kogi and Gombe. The coal projects have the potential of adding 1000 MWs to the national grid. So, how will the programme be monitored to ensure implementation? Federal Government itself has taken care of that in the programme also with a well articulated oversight, accountability and implementation structure at the apex of which will be a Board to be constituted by the President. The Board will be assisted by globally renowned consulting firms in carrying out its task of ensuring that government keeps its words on the expenditure of savings from the removal of subsidy. MDAs will also set up units that will monitor projects in their sectors.

But for me, the specificity of the document has even placed the monitoring in the hands of all Nigerians. So, I will advise that we all get the document, study it, familiarise ourselves with projects to be implemented with savings to be made from the subsidy removal programme in our respective communities and be ready to ensure that those projects are implemented.[/b] One thing that is sure is that with Subsidy Reinvestment and Empowerment Programme, the charge that government, especially at the federal level did not have plans on how to spend savings to be made from removal of subsidy or take care of the potential effects on the vulnerable segments of our society may no longer be tenable.

Abubakar wrote from Kaduna.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201112140283.html

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=824709.msg9762844#msg9762844 date=1323865389]Beaf from the very first day this subsidy thing started I was in support of the removal of subsidy because I understand what was going on. Thanks for your further explanation.

Now my argument is not that the government should not remove the subsidy, My argument is the period of the removal of subsidy.

You see, if the government removes subsidy without our own refinery, that is a complete waste of time and resources.

Our OWN refineries should be working to produce at least 80% of our nation's fuel consumption. Once this is done, then the government should remove the damn thing and stop enriching some specific individuals.

But if the subsidy is going to be removed next year and our refineries are not working to scratch, It is just the same old system again.

The government would import crude oil from these same people and they would pay them off.

Back to square One.

Do you see my point ?[/quote]Your argument leaves out the most important variable which is; exactly how much fuel does Nigeria consume?
That little question hides a lot of ugliness.

I can bet you that the figures bandied about as our total fuel consumption are all FALSE. They have been beefed up and padded to allow for extraordinary levels of smuggling, all subsidised by the Nigerian government. Therefore, the figures given as Nigeria's fuel consumption are really for vast proportions of the combined figure for Niger, Chad, Benin Republic, Burkina Faso, Cameroon and Nigeria.

If our fuel consumption is only a fraction of the figure bandied around, it follows that our refineries are in much better shape (aside Kaduna) to fulfill a great percentage of local demand. In that sense, the benefits will be felt quite quickly and there is no point waiting for them to run at a 100% before smoking out a den of vipers.

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No news today about how the development in Akwa Ibom is to your credit? Or how you personally told Akpabio to dualise roads and employ Julius Berger?
What about how you saved Italy from floods? No helping of your usual high stories?

Dude, you are a low quality sand swiller with zero credibility, not worth the trouble from those of my refined calibre.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=824709.msg9762711#msg9762711 date=1323864287]Haba beaf you don start again.

removal of subsidy would not change the fact that our country does not have refinaries and thus have to go to those countires to refine our crude oil, or does it ?

Haba beaf don't turn logic on it's head[/quote]It will remove the entire ecosystem of corruption that those who own the country have created. Each one of us is a slave, paid off with N65.00 per litre fuel, whereas the entire money for the country is going straight into a few hundred pockets. They legally steal all of our money, only to turn round and piss on us, but we've been paid to be quiet with N65.00 fuel, just as the National Assembly is paid to maintain the status quo with salaries for doing absolute fuckry that are higher than Obama's. It is best to deeply understand your country and how you've been sold.

And lets not forget that they have set the system up so that the wanton theft is 100% legal. Whites enslaved us in the past and we fought, they colonised us and we spilt blood; so why would we allow fellow Nigerians enslave us for a paltry N65.00 per litre of petrol? I'm sure Nigerians are smarter.

[quote author=A-ZeD link=topic=824709.msg9762670#msg9762670 date=1323863699]The Nigerian Police is corrupt lets scrap the police
The Nigerian Military is corrupt lets scrap it too,
Political parties are corrupt lets scrap them too, [/quote]Damn right.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=824709.msg9762472#msg9762472 date=1323861890]I am deeply shocked that people are surprise at this

When I was saying it the other day, The ideeiot called Point B was arguing with me saying bull crap. LOL Have I not be vindicated now ?

Nigeria refines her oil in the following country

UK
GHANA
IVORY COAST
BENIN REPUBLIC
RUSSIA
AMERICA
among others

those countries I mentioned, I am sure of them with hard facts. there is no point in sugar coating anything

The most painful part of it is what I am about to tell you

Now The refinary in the UK and Ghana in which our FG refine her oil is located at the ports.

thus whn Nigeria stu.pidlly ship her crude oil to lets say UK for 1 million dollars, it is refined right there at the port and given back to them almost as quick as they recieved it for 10 million dollars, Also the UK retain some of that oil



Thus we sell the raw material for 1 million dollars, they sell it back to us for 10 million dollars and yet still they retain X amount of barrels for themselves since Nigeria does not have good people in calculating Logistics. AT THE PORT, * pls remember that*

That is the sad nature of Nigeria, Now think about the government removing subsidy without Nigeria own refinary.


Now who are the owners of these refianeries ?

well of course the UK, america and russia is owned by each country to get there revenue from a silly black nation.

as for Ghana, the government has a signed deal with Nigeria NNPC to do such thus, they give the oga's in NNPC some change to shut them up

[size=14pt]Ivory coast and benin republic is owned by yours trully, IBB, Danjuma, Abacha, Uba brothers, OBJ, among others aka past generals.[/size]

Why are they doing it ?

Of course to secure their investments for stolen money. I mean you don't want a revolution to occur in Nigeria and the newly installed government ceasing their refinaries from them.

Also to develop a good relationship with those governments I mentioned.[/quote]I wish you will continue making sensible posts like this, instead of sounding troubled all the time.
Those men are richer than Nigeria and all supported by ethnically / religiously bigotted networks, unimaginably vast sums of money and military links.
That is one solid reason why the subsidy and eventually NNPC MUST GO; fighting those people will just suck the blood out of the whole country. Oil is our only revenue earner, and they hold us by the jugular.

Fork-tongued scarabs like Tunde Bakare are to be pitied. This is the hypocritical false prophet in 1999:

Bakare said, “Let me tell you the truth by the spirit of God, neither (President Olusegun Obasanjo), OBJ, Atiku (Abubakar), IBB and this tall one, (Muhammadu) Buhari are part of the new. They are part of the old that is decaying. That old one is passing away. The new is emerging and these ones are not part of that new.”

. . .

"Neither Buhari nor IBB nor Obasanjo nor Atiku will be part of the new Nigeria. They are part of the old that has decayed and is still decaying. The new is coming forth. It is the counsel of the Lord that shall stand in this nation. Until the sons of turmoil destroy themselves, this nation will not know peace."

Secondly, Buhari is corrupt. I've posted the below repeatedly about Abacha, but can post direct stuff about Buhari's corruption.

You will also notice that those who scream loudest against the removal of the subsidy are reps of those companies.

Does the average Nigerian who refuses to read know that during Abacha's regime, with Buhari at the head of the PTF racket; the refineries were deliberately run down and monies for their turn around maintenance routinely vanished into thin air? But wait for the cracker! At the time this lot were running down our local refineries, Abacha actually used FG funds to build a personal refinery in Sierra Leone, so he and his cronies could milk the nation dry as a fuel importers!
That refinery was acquired through the vehicles, Integrated Investment Trust Limited and Nasimatume Investments Limited jointly owned by Abacha and his National Security Adviser, Ismaila Gwarzo.

Needless to say, the Abacha refinery in Sierra Leone is now cobwebbed. Many of our ex-generals are in similar rackets, they destroy the refineries at home, while having shares or ownership of refineries abroad to milk the nation dry. Behind those names listed, is an ex-general or two.

OPC is neither police nor SSS, they should allow the proper security services do their job.
What Fasheun has said might be right, but there is no need to be chatty in matters of gravity.

OPC is neither police nor SSS, they should allow the proper security services do their job.
What Fasheun has said might be right, but there is no need to be chatty in matters of gravity.

careytommy:
Thank you!
@ topic
is this supposed to be news?
like where have you all been?
this ish started during IBB's era

By the way, IBB built private refineries with FG money in Ivory Coast and Benin Republic, while Abacha built one in Sierra Leone and used PTF (under Buhari) to share gifts to cronies. AbdulSalami busted the Abacha empire and the PTF sole administrator committed suicide.

afam4eva:
This thread is about Ogun state and not anywhere else. Nobody is denying the fact that there's insecurity throughout the federation.

Thank you jare! I can't understand why you ask some people an examination question about A and they begin to rattle mindlessly about Z, yet expect to pass.

Gbawe has claimed that the news comes from Compass, therefore it is somehow wrong. LIE. Banks in Ogun are closed in absolute petrified fear.
Also, that the state governor, Amosun is an onlooker concerning security in his state. LIE.

Now, Rhino.5dm has taken the stretching further by including farout arguments about states where banks are still open for business and the residents are not in panic that the police are scared of the armed robbers. Bloody weak and illogical.
Maybe we should just shout hurrah! Maybe we should all revile intelligence, truth and common sense and claim that its all good in Ogun state. Crap.

Please could someone clean up this thread? There is absolutely no need for gory images that disrespect the dead:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-824289.32.html

Can the mods clean up this thread?

^
Firing will simply not work, the thing is like an octupus with deep tentacles into the very soul of Nigeria. The whole NNPC should be scrapped along with the fuel subsidy, we should all fight to remove govts hands from any sort of business or money generation, except where our national security would be threatened.

If we enthrone true federalism and back the PIB, we wouldn't have institutions like the NNPC.

Gbawe:
My guy, we know Beaf can always be trusted to be partisan but here, he is falling over his untied shoelaces as usual. The title of the thread is "Re: Police Are Now Scared Of Robbers In Ogun State, Cry Residents". Gbenga Daniel owns Compass. Put two and two together and you get what is going on i.e nonsensical attack from disgruntled elements.  If the Nigerian Police force, controlled 100% by the FG according to our constiitution, are now "scared of robbers" then Compass is obviously not bright enough to work out whether that is a negative indictment of Amosun or GEJ. Beaf seems to be struggling with that concept also with how he wants to make this about Amosun by force when the legal and constitutional position unambigously makes it clear that the FG is directly responsible for safegaurding lives and properties in all States of Nigeria. The Governors should also be proactive in doing what they can yet it is still the FG 100% responsible for ensuring optimum security in Nigerian States. Anything else is pandering to emotional argument. If you want States to ease the burden on the FG, then give them the State Police force many are now clamouring for.

You are just stepping all over your own tongue. The long and short of the matter is that the State Commissioner of police is under the direction of the governor.
Lazy types will only remember that the commissioner of police is an FG appointee when it is time to shirk their duties; but when it is time to assign 4 mopols to their wives and girlfriends to carry their shopping bags, they will suddenly be in charge and very aggressively too, like two pence champs. Whenever weak people are shirking their duties, our ears get insulted with wondrous and ridiculous excuses.

The societal breakdown that is causing security issues in Ogun is 100% Amosun's problem; if he thinks it isn't then he should be impeached as a useless rag, not worth even duting shoes in govt house.
Thankfully, Amosun himself does not carry such a shallow idea of what his duties are and has made several promises to improve the sorry situation. That shallowness exist only here on NL.

I will repeat, it is better for Amosun to put his hands up and call in the FG, because his own efforts have proven useless. How can banks not open for fear of robbers? That is a sordid first in Nigeria. Sensible folk would realise that its time to begin loading the battle wagons for impeachment.

A boko haram judge?
First we had a boko haram senator. How many top people are in boko haram?

It is clear that Buhari is scared of being exposed through his links with Abacha, so his leutenants have been all over the place, attempting to launder his image in indirect ways. This thread is just another. I want to post these again, because the truth needs to be known:

You will also notice that those who scream loudest against the removal of the subsidy are reps of those companies.

Does the average Nigerian who refuses to read know that during Abacha's regime, with Buhari at the head of the PTF racket; the refineries were deliberately run down and monies for their turn around maintenance routinely vanished into thin air? But wait for the cracker! At the time this lot were running down our local refineries, Abacha actually used FG funds to build a personal refinery in Sierra Leone, so he and his cronies could milk the nation dry as a fuel importers!
That refinery was acquired through the vehicles, Integrated Investment Trust Limited and Nasimatume Investments Limited jointly owned by Abacha and his National Security Adviser, Ismaila Gwarzo.

Needless to say, the Abacha refinery in Sierra Leone is now cobwebbed. Many of our ex-generals are in similar rackets, they destroy the refineries at home, while having shares or ownership of refineries abroad to milk the nation dry. Behind those names listed, is an ex-general or two.

Buhari, IBB and Abacha aare all rowers of the same corrupt boat.

[size=14pt]The Canonisation of Abacha[/size]
Yusuph Olaniyonu
13 June 2008

Lagos — On Monday, the newspapers had a major, yet curious, news story on their front pages. The story was from the tenth year remembrance prayer held for late General Sani Abacha, who was head of state between November 17, 1993 and June 8, 1998, a period one could rightly referred to as the "dark days of the Nigerian nation".

According to the story, two former heads-of-state, Generals Ibrahim Babangida and Muhammadu Buhari, who are Abacha's predecessors, in their speech at the remembrance prayers said Abacha never stole any money while in power.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200806130494.html

[size=14pt]Nigeria Wants to Re-Write History[/size]
. . .
Recently, this tradition has been strengthened by the entry of three former dictators who ruled Nigeria from 1983 to 1999. General Mohammadu Buhari, General Ibrahim Babangida and General Abdusalami Abubakar, three of which came together after perhaps a reunion of three men united to inform Nigerians and not much less than the world that the late General Sani Abacha did not steal money from Nigeria. This event marked a clear turning point in the growth of interest in Nigeria's former leaders try to deceive or back of the hands of the immediate past history, because the country's president, Olusegun Obasanjo also made the recovery of these huge sums of money.

November 10, 1998, the government of General Abubakar Abdusalami announced to the world that his government had made a great recovery from general Sani Abacha, loot the coffers of the country, the government put at N64 billion. Nigerians greeted him and thought that money was sizably reflected in the economic development of the nation or socially used to develop the country through simple repairs or contructions roads, and perhaps the supply of hospital equipment in our hospital General, but neither was the case.

General Sani Abacha was there first, because there was Ibrahim Babangida before him as one of the first presidents of the military world, without seeing a Vice President and Gen Mohammadu Buhari was himself overthrown by Ibrahim Babangida Buhari believed that a stab in his way back back in 1985, Nigerians heard the announcement of the Abacha military leader of the just undid that the theft of his money in Nigeria through his personal friends Buhari, Babangida and Abdusalami. What a historic turning point in the life of our nation, Nigeria. Nigeria yet to complain because she knew that history was being done. Nigeria must mourn for now. Fernand Braudel wrote

http://www.content4reprint.com/culture-and-society/social-issues/nigeria-wants-to-re-write-history.htm

jay bee:
Why are all questions being directed at beaf  
Since when did he turn Johnny boy's spokesman  

My guy, me sef fear o!

That is quite right! A great first from GEJ!
I do not know of any civilian govt in Nigeria's history that presented the budget in time (I could be wrong, but I very strongly doubt it).