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[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=820284.msg9721296#msg9721296 date=1323348407]I wanted to ignore this thread but I believe people have a very wrong precepsion of the so called middle belt

1. They have all the right to ignore a meeting that is non-profitable

2. No one is using anyone, they are on there own accord

3. The so called middle belt leaders don't speak for their state but for themselves

4. Indigeneship is the problem in the middle belt now, Not the fulani par-say

5. If the middle belt want there own political forum, then so be it, after all there are 6 geo-political zones in the country of which the middle-belt is part of

6. in the middle, there are also hausa, fulani, and kanuri in each state as indigenes[/quote]You are better off ignoring all threads. Nobody is really interested in the propagation of ignorance.
Of course, nobody is using the Middle Belt, our observations are decieving us and their leaders are just complaining for no reason, while NL's minister of mediocrity spreads "truth and wisdom," the real koko of the matter.

When is the next story teller coming along?

Iolo:
GEJ wants to, wants to, wants to, everytime. I understand that Nigeria's problems can't be solved in a year, but it'd be helpful if he placed more emphasis on telling Nigerians tangible things he has done instead of wishing himself away.

I don't see why GEJ shouldn't be giving press conferences or them media parleys with men of the press like OBJ used to do. Such times will allow Nigerians key into his vision or better understand his cluelessness, whichever one.

You actually mean GEJ should tell you what he has done?! Gaddemn! Ain't you suppossed to be aware of whats going on around you? Na wa o!
Even the blind can see.

volasunkan:
^^^I voted Ribadu and thank God I did not vote a drunken fisherman.When a northerner was d president,it made sense for beaf et al to label the NDelta criminals freedom fighters,now they are executive ex-mililants globetrotting the world in the name of sham skill acquisition trainning while GEJ expects the youths from other region to look on and do nothing!.Now that a nigerdeltan is on seat as Pressy,the northerners are giving the same dose of the medicine the Ndelta militants gave their own son while he was the president.This is nothing but non-developmental crude African politics.The northerners are not dumb they understand power dynamics and I am sure when a northerner takes over in 2015,the NDELTA hostilities will resume.

Dude, your vote shows what you are.
It would have taken intestinal fortitude, maniacally clenched jaws and a will of steel to damn common sense and daftly vote for Ribadu.

“The emerging suicide bombers are rebels who are telling the nation that things are not right. So, it is time for us to wake up. This is the truth and the reality. . .”

Phucking "clever!" When will the man officially join boko haram?

beespak7:
What does odechukwu mean? I have been hearing that word for some time now

@ Topic this is a great move by gj, the jinx has finally been broken and history is being made . This is what past presidents since 1970s have been so scared to do.  At least light situation will improve drastically thank you goodluck

State governments whose states are situated along the coast line like lagos, edo, delta, and rivers, states should make use of wind energy to produce electricity i see hope on the horrizon 

It translates to, "God is and ." So you can understand the gutter calibre of the people who use that term.

Concerening your suggestion about wind energy, we could actually harness wave energy along our shorelines. That will offer far more bang for our buck.

Very good, that means we can threaten the SW from Wafi if they don't supply us nice babes with jiggly bakassi!

Ogosoga:
Why is it that we donmt appreciate good things, GEJ has be in power for less tha one year and we can say that there is
tangible improvement in power supply, tell me all the Almaheri's that have rulled for years, what is their achivement?
Does it mean that the are paralizd that they could not solve the power problem?
The roads that you are talking about is already bad before GEJ take over the government, so the privious leaders
what were they doing?

GEJ may not have accomplished much but his achivements in this one year alone is better than all that the almagiris has
done put together because the last time I visted Nigeria in october I can get cool water from my Refrigirator
without using my generator.

GEJ continue with your good plan and your good work because those that have eyes are seeing what you are doing
and also those that have hear is hearing your good plans.

My guy, you are talking about people who actually love the previous govts and backwardness. people who gain from the suffering of the common man and get really pissed when someone like GEJ turns up to fix things.

We call their type, winsh. Very very bad winshes!

No wonder nobody voted for him.

She said between 2006 and 2011, the nation spent N3,655.17 trillion to subsidise fuel. The cash is 30 per cent of the total expenditure, 118% of the capital expenditure and 4.18% of the GDP.

Damn! That hit me right between the eyes!
Nigeria is set up wrong. We are better of doing away with the subsidy.

In the first place, it is wrong to insult a sitting President, he represents every Nigerian, so those who needlessly insult him think nothing of disrespecting themselves. Perhaps, because they amount to little that can be respected. Atiku, Ciroma, Kaita, IBB and the other members of the bat and vulture gang started the the ball of insults rolling, but it is easy to see what they represent.

Most of those who abuse GEJ, only do it because they themselves feel inadequate or because they are ill-bred, mannerless pieces of dung best avoided by the sane; the rest do it because they think it is a cool fad, but it isn't cool to be an immoral scarab rolling shiit around.

No Nigerian President has ever accomplished as much as GEJ has in such a short time; his tenure promises to turn the country around. It is only natural that the forces of previous times will be angry.

LOLZZZZZZZZZZ!!!
How can a margistrate terminate a case filed at the Federal High Court Abuja by the Attorney General of the Federation?

Nigerians never fail to impress with our little intrigues!

Will all lovers of Fresh Air! please stand up?!

[size=14pt]Nigerian leader wants direct access to government funds blocked to curb graft[/size]
07 Dec 2011 12:45
Source: TrustLaw scrapboook // George Fominyen

DAKAR (TrustLaw) – Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan is planning measures to cut authorities’ direct access to government funds in a bid to fight corruption, the West African country’s Guardian newspaper reported on Wednesday.
“We shall definitely not celebrate corruption. We shall very soon set up a structure that will not allow government office holders to have direct access to funds that belong to the State called Nigeria,” Jonathan said at a meeting of the Nigeria Inter-Religious Council (NIREC) in Ilorin, the capital of Kwara State.

Civil society groups say corruption is rife among government officials in Nigeria and as a result, the country’s oil wealth has not benefited the majority of the people who remain poor. 

The Nigerian leader, who has made the fight against corruption one of his major objectives, reiterated his government’s determination to combat graft but also warned that government officials were not the only perpetrators.

“If we all think that corruption starts and ends with political office holders, we will tackle it from a wrong side. But as a government, we shall tackle it systematically. That is why we have set up the various anti-graft bodies in Nigeria to fish out the corrupt elements among us,” Jonathan said.

http://www.trust.org/trustlaw/news/nigerian-leader-wants-direct-access-to-government-funds-blocked-to-curb-graft

Fashola gaffed seriously.

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=819269.msg9709423#msg9709423 date=1323204954]Beaf, Gbawe is right. We all know this,including you. You dont need to keep supporting blindly. State police like I was suggesting in my first post does not mean control will be left to the governors.[/quote]Sharrap!
I prefer to have state police, but Nigeria is not yet ready for it. Boko haram is the stark example of what politicians can do to intimidate their opponents and cow the masses, not to talk of if they are given state police. It would be like they have been given legal assassination and brutalisation squads.

Gbawe:
Give it a rest mate. You know as well as I do that Boris Johnson cannot, without consequences, begin using the Met partisanly because of the effective checks and balance system that makes the Met Police commisioner (Bernard Hogan-Howe) accountable to parliament rather than to London Politicians. You have taken simplistic talk to a new level if you cannot understand that State Police forces are autonomous in so far as seeking unique policing solutions and method for the areas they control. The autonomy does not extend to wholesale abusive use by one person or group of people while everyone in a nation is still subject to the federal laws of that Nation. We cannot keep talking as if Nigeria is a jungle that cannot aspire to better. In short we cannot , without trying, talk as if the tail wags the dog and not the other way round. GEJ said "leaner government not possible" and dodged lamely behind the constitution. Amosun wrote the legislators in his state and managed to get laws ratified to support his demand that salaries of public officials be cut[b] to raise money for capital spending[/b].

You are a joker. Even LASTMA has killed people and will likely kill again, they regularly violently assault and harrass people, yet they arent even police.
Nigeria is a jungle because there are people who wish to state that black is white and white black.

A vast proportion of our politicians are crude and uncivilised. What checks and balances can stop crude men from being what they are?

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=819269.msg9709389#msg9709389 date=1323204511]haba, Mr"egbon mi ni razist" show some good gesture to Gbawe. After so many argument, He still addresses you as his friend. You can talk to him without underlining insults.[/quote]Its best for you to mind your business.
Not every matter has to be discussed in an overtly partisan and abusive manner, it begins to irritate people after some time.

We all saw what Sylva did with Famou Tamgbei and how a politician was murdered by the police in Delta state, arguably on the orders of the powers that be. We have also witnessed how ex-gov Sheriff's militia morphed into the deadly boko haram. All these things and yet, we do not even have state police.
What will be the fate of the man on the street when each governor is allowed to own a legal, fully armed force for terror?

Gbawe:
My friend, they are still subject to the checks and balances of the federation hence "under the FG".

What checks and balances? It is very disingenuous to make claims that cannot be sustained. State police would be autonomous as applies in other countries, its like the Met and Merseyside police; they are totally different forces.

If there is to be state police today and GEJ exerts influence over them, you will be the first to scream blue murder. You do not have to take a partisan stance in every matter and start talking about "weakness" this minute and "tyranny" the next, as the wind blows your mouth.

debosky:
I wanted to nominate Beaf, but I'm sure he has exceeded the number of bans allowed for razists.

Please publish a list of those that have been banned more than twice this year so we can nominate well.

Your foolishness is blossoming with each passing day.

Gbawe:
My brother, you must understand that Jonathan speaks like this as a weak leader innately given to dereliction of his Presidential duty and shying away from tough decisions.

State Police forces will still be under the federal Republic of Nigeria so kini big deal as far as federal might exercising effective control over all Police forces in Nigeria? . Do Governors not currently use the Police force partisanly in their State anyway? Why deny serious Governors like Amaechi and Fashola the right to develop a modern police outfit that can cope effectively with the peculiar security challenges of their State? Must everyone continue to pay for the mediocrity, gradualism and lack of ambition of poor administrators like GEJ?

If GEJ is committed to delivering strong instititutions (and the appointment of Ringim is clue he is not) he will focus more on how any abuse will simply be checked effectively by the centre. Jonathan is a man who does not want 'wahala' and this is why he preempts event by thinking the worst rather than be the sort of proactive leader who can birth reform, innovation and take bravely radical yet necessary decisions . This is entirely defeatist from GEJ but not unexpected .

It is very foolish to say that state police will be under the FG. State police will be autonomous.

[size=14pt]Jonathan: Nigeria Not Yet Ripe for State Police[/size]
06 Dec 2011

https://serving.thisdaylive.com/0bef99d6-acf5-4e2c-9779-8fa02ba3fcd4/assets/2609F01.Goodluck-Jonathan.jpg?maxwidth=400&maxheight=540
President Goodluck Jonathan

By Ahamefula Ogbu

President Goodluck Jonathan Tuesday drove a death nail into the coffin of state police saying the country was not yet ripe for it as it is feared that it would be subjected to abuses by people in power.

He also explained the need to deregulate the downstream sector which was wider than the removal of fuel subsidy in order to stimulate growth in the economy while he vowed to strictly fight corruption.

Speaking in Ilorin, Kwara State Tuesday at the North Central Zonal meeting of the Nigerian Inter-Religious Council (NIREC), Jonathan said that after a careful deliberation on the issue the National Council of State agreed that the country had not attained the political state to operate it.

Specifically, he said the political environment was not right and ripe to allow the states to have their police as the likelihood of being misused, adding, "state police may be theoretically good, but looking at our political environment, it could be abused to the detriment of the country".

He said the National Council of State insisted that states should not be allowed to have their own police at the current level of the political development till it is certain it would not be abused.

"The consensus is that we should get to the point where we will be sure that whoever is in power will not turn it against the people. The first step is for us to have confidence in elections conducted at the state and local government levels," he said.

He also told the gathering that his administration was still consulting a wider segment of the society with a view to coming to a compromise decision on the deregulation of the downstream sector of the petroleum industry.

Town hall meetings, he continued would be held by Governors to explain to grassroots, the implication of the deregulation of the downstream sector which he said was wider than removal of subsidy.

"Deregulation is not just about removal of subsidy but also about how we can stimulate the economy to create jobs for our teeming unemployed young men and women. Government is not unmindful of the hardship faced by the average Nigerian and is doing its best to create conditions in which each and every Nigerian can lift his or herself out of the doldrums of poverty.

"We are not going to celebrate corruption but fight it by doing things properly and not creating opportunities for it to thrive. We are going to systematically fight it by setting up structures and strengthening the anti-corruption institutions," the President said.

He commended NIREC for the role they have been playing to ensure peaceful co-existence and progress of the nation as moderating influences in among their followers trough guiding them through the path of peace.

Concluding, he said, “We do not all have to agree with each other in every aspect of life for us to live in peace and build unity. What we simply have to agree on is the fact that Nigeria is our nation and we are all Nigerians and share a common patrimony and as such we have to practice the fundamental principle of inclusivity”.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/jonathan-nigeria-not-yet-ripe-for-state-police/104417/

bodejohn:
, This nation is filled with several inconsistencies.
Were we not told by the fresh air army a little while ago that absence of fuel scarcity was a plus for the I have no shoe coroner? Did GEJ promise to remove fuel subsidy when he was blindly voted for?
If the removal of the subsidy was such a novel idea, why has the FG failed to convince the equally corrupt national assembly filled with the presidents men. We all know that the fuel subsidy will ground the activities of government not because of the burden it posses to the economy but because it is heavily laden with mis management and corruption. How will a government remove the only social impact it makes in the life of the citizenry. For beaf who was asking about the state governments. How much does the states take from the federation account compared with the fed govt. Even in US, their govt subsidies agriculture, the richest sector of their economy. This is why I blame the labour unions in this country. Why go on strike for increase wages when the necessary infrastructure to fast track the development of the country is degenerating at an irreparable rate.

You are very confused.

The bolded is the only thing worth replying to, and only because you specifically called my attention.
Its a bit silly to ask about the proportion of the federation account that goes to the FG. The question you should be asking yourself, is why your state (and all others) produce fuckall and have to go with a begging bowl to Abuja every month. Perhaps you think that is dignified.
In the US (which you used as an example to butress a slab of unfortunate logic), the states actually keep the FG afloat by contributing taxes from revenue they have generated from services and industry; not the other way as in our comparatively unproductive system. Why does your state beg for a living instead of doing the same? If there was no oil and awuf Abuja money, what would your state have done? Would all of you be on the streets begging?

Get your governor working and your state functioning; generating jobs, wealth, healthcare, education, high tech industries. Or do you think the FG should step in to teach your governor how to do these things? If so, why did you vote? Sir, you are very confused.
The FG should be seen as the overall authority and protector, not as a father Christmas.

Like I pointed out earlier, the vast majority of you just let words off because you have mouths. But every one of us also has intellectual abilities, so why don't we use them?
From that one bolded sentence, it is quite clear that you fall into the camp of those who would have the already grounded Nigerian ship to continue steering in the same old phucked direction and wishing that our luck will somehow change. Luck has nothing to do with national development.
The only way forward for Nigeria, is to disengage the FG from money generating ventures and establish practices that lead to true federalism. If I were you, I would learn what that entails in every detail. Learn what your rights should be as against what the limits of the various tiers of govt should be; meditate deeply and philosophise on these things before coming out to make demands, lest you come across as very confused and phucking clueless.

Thank you.

ideylaff:
They will all one day be 6ft below and answer to all they did on earth,

Even if we have a docile populace/polity, one day bush meat will catch the hunter ,

I know 4 sure. We are not silly like they think.

@ beaf you can stay on the pilferers side, just know that when the whirlwind comes to sweep them all, No one , I repeat no one will be spared oooo

You are a real clown! You sit down where you are, promoting thieves and bloodsuckers, while pretending to help the man in the street; yet you can point your crooked finger at genuine people? What a World!
All you people have to trade are sentiments and hysteria, you have zero logic, facts or truth, everything you say is made up, like you are lords of okija. Anyone that falls for your tricks is bloody dumb.

Olalekan 0:
Anyone who feels Sylva ought to be allowed to return to Yenagoa is either mentally derailed or related to him.

This is a state of less than 2M inhabitants,receives collosal amounts of monies as allocations and other grants,yet the people remain one of the most impoverished in the country.

Nigerians are the ones clamouring for the ouster or at least overhauling of the underperforming PDP and now that they're trying to get their acts together by putting the right people in the right places,people are still ranting.

This is why i could never be a politician in Nigeria.

Don't mind them!
Check their total number of posts. Most of them have just 3 or 4! Its easy to draw an informed conclusion from that, I can bet that some would have only joined this morning. Lol!

The man from the jeep went into the hotel and ordered some men upstairs to the Chief’s room saying “go to room 305 finish anybody there hurry” when the men went upstairs, the man from the jeep got on the phone and he was pacing up and down and said several times on the phone “Yes your Excellency” “Yes your Excellency” He walked back the lobby, at this time some uniformed police were with him at the lobby, he gave them three photographs and one of them walked up to us, at this time the Chief was trying to send a text to someone, they took his phone and held the photographs to his face and said this is him. The man one the phone then said to who ever he was speaking to “We have him your Excellency”

"Your Excellency" can only mean Uduaghan.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=817702.msg9704826#msg9704826 date=1323169048]Don't count on paying N150 for fuel after subsidy is removed. The government has the power to impose price control measures on these importers. [/b]FYI, there are at least 3 - 4 companies willing to replace each importer who does not want to continue importing and sell at current prices, after subsidy is gone.

Its time to open the books of these importers and [b]let everyone see the astronomical levels of their profits at the expense of you and I.[/quote]Thanks for the bolded. It is strange how some people are fighting tooth and nail to remain underneath the thumb of their oppressors. But I guess some of them represent the voice of the oppressor "crying" louder than the bereaved. Its mainly crocodile tears.

[quote author=*dhtml link=topic=816843.msg9701051#msg9701051 date=1323114439]You are correct, but you missed my point. I was saying same thing as you - that a site getting hacked is not exclusively because it is made with php - like some people are trying to say. Even sites that are compiled into exe sef if poSsible can stil get hacked.[/quote]I'm not saying websites get hacked exclusively because they were done in PHP. Rather, it is generally much easier to hack PHP sites.
There are two reasons for this:

[list]
[li]PHP libraries are knocked up without any plan, quite unlike other languages. The platform itself is weak security wise.[/li]
[li]To compound matters, the lack of restrictions (e.g. type safety, html encoding of user input etc) make it by far the easiest tool to get up and going with. As a result, there are tonnes of "anything goes developers" churning out horribly hackable stuff.[/li]
[/list]

Of course, it is possible to build acceptably secure sites in PHP, but it takes more effort than is worth it. For example, ASP.NET out of the box, will war against XSS attacks without much dev input, because it screams loudly and refuses to budge each time anything remotely resembling script or html tags arrives from user input; PHP does not do that out of the box.

[size=14pt]Weldone efisher!
An NLer with real oomph![/size]

The govt should allow ND states to have direct ownership rights over the gas that would be sold to other states. The same should go for coal.
By the time GEJ is done with the country, we would have acheived true federalism by stealth.

Nice.

Great development and all in line with Fresh Air!

[quote author=A-ZeD link=topic=817702.msg9702026#msg9702026 date=1323122924]1) Subsidy is not part of recurrent expenditure,
2) Why will marketers spend money to build refineries when they can import and sell at any price?

Note this is Nigeria we are talking about, things dont work according to the norm[/quote]Who told you they would be able to import and sell at any price?

I like the way you guys make your stuff up, its quite entertaining!
Wait until you get the full info of the govts proposals before making claims about stuff you and I know nothing about yet. Thank you.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=817924.msg9701422#msg9701422 date=1323117495]OYa make una help me see the racket wey BEAF dey use collect money from Oyinbo say him wan help Africans.

www.afrosciencecommunity.com

How can a daft-ee like beaf be allowed to be scamming people. BEAF obonge yahoo yahoo criminal.

Now you are happy to introduce your scamming business to Nigerian government in a modified way as YouWin.

So, what next after you don chop YouWin finish? YouWound [/quote]Come and use the opportunity to feed your 12 wretches, so you can stop lying and telling high stories. Lol!
Winsh na winsh! Obubra airways!