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sbeezy8:
PDP is incapable of breeding better leaders in the west because Obj has hands on everything!

Lol! What if the reformed PDP opens its doors to ACN? Lol!
I'm sure the best of ACN would rather deal with PDP than deal with the cabal thats now in CPC; as we speak a confused Buhari is holding desperate talks with Ciroma and Ribadu for a Northern consensus candidate.

Sahara Reporters, the fake news champ.

[size=14pt]The fake pic below too is courtesy Sahara Reporters[/size]. Shame.
http://saharareporters.com/photo/photonews-jonathans-declaration-when-jonathan-women-met-goodluck-men

www.nairaland.com/attachments/324341_SaharaReportersFakePicture_jpg69a0b6e4ad1c8831fa731bd73bb022d2

naijaking1:
As true as this might be, i don't see how it helps the GEJ campaign at these last hours of the race. If Buhari had been mentioned, I would have said "maybe" On the contrary, the post runs the risk of the GEJ team sending out garbbled message.

Nah, its just an ordinary thread. Nothing to do with campaigns IMHO.

Rubbish. Why are you too ashamed to post your source as Sahara Reporters, the agency best known for fake news?
http://saharareporters.com/news-page/abuja-election-shocker-12-persons-arrested-1-million-presidential-election-ballot-papers-0

Sahara Reporters, the fake news champ.

[size=14pt]The fake pic below too is courtesy Sahara Reporters[/size]. Shame.
http://saharareporters.com/photo/photonews-jonathans-declaration-when-jonathan-women-met-goodluck-men

www.nairaland.com/attachments/324341_SaharaReportersFakePicture_jpg69a0b6e4ad1c8831fa731bd73bb022d2

[size=14pt]I’ll be stvpid to deceive myself - Oyo CPC gov candidate [/size]
Monday, 11 April 2011

THE gubernatorial candidate of the Congress for Progress Change (CPC) in Oyo State, Mr Adebayo Shittu, has said that he will win the election in the state.

He said that at his age, he would be silly to be deceiving himself, insisting that his was the only party with a political manifesto.

“I will be a stvpid man to deceive myself. I am winning the gubernatorial election in Oyo State. I am the only candidate in the state with a manifesto,” he said while casting his vote at Unit 2, Ward 20 in Saki, Saki West Local Government Area of Oyo State, during the National Assembly election on Saturday.

In another development, the Peoples Democratic Party’s (PDP) candidate in Oyo North Sanatorial district, Mr Hosea Agboola, has charged the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) to be up to the task by conducting other elections without postponement under whatever guise.

He said this while the National Assembly election was going on, on Saturday.

http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/20249-ill-be-silly-to-deceive-myself-oyo-cpc-gov-candidate

semid4lyfe:
F.O.O.L!!

Are you so confused about your ethnic identity?

Isn't this what you posted when you asked to be made a moderator?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-632788.0.html

How come you're now Ndigbo today?

Mooron that thinks he's entitled to something on a privately owned forum just because he's Kanuri and his ethnic group ain't represented.

Federal character my foot!!!

He is a cultural nomad.

The way some anti-GEJ peeps are attributing all his good work to Yar Adua, I won't be surprised if the poor Yar Adua gets pissed from the disturbance, rises and gives them some really serious slaps!
Bad bele na killa!

It is really encouraging that a vital atery that links the SS, SE and Middle Belt has been given proper attention after so many years of neglect.

Lol!
Dude, you should really change your title to something like "Buhari holds secret meeting with cabal, IBB, Atiku!"

The red eyed sharia desperado! Instead of going around the North to convince people about issues, he invested in extremist religious text messages against Jonathan; all the while, the cabal busied themselves renting and busing almajiri crowds around.

Lovely article. Brilliant!

[quote author=Guru D. link=topic=643980.msg8105429#msg8105429 date=1302561541]@ Beaf; are u saying the pdp is incapable of breeding leaders like Fashola? U will call Amaechi and Chime. But if u live in Port-Horcourt u will know that the pdp in rivers is very much different from that predominant in the country. I do not have any say on Chime, I do not have first hand knowledge of the man or the situation in Enugu.
will a man like Fashola thrive in a party like pdp with all its godfatherism and do-or die politicians, who play the politics of favoritism and zoning? Fashola is a man that only hardwork will bring him progress and he needs to be in the party that rewards hardwork and runs a fair and just system. u definitely will cry foul but the ACN is a more progressive party than the pdp (ultra conservatives)[/quote]LOL! Of course PDP can produce talent (some of whom you've named), but you can never have too much of a good thing! Thats why advanced democracies keep giving visa and passport preferences to scientists, inventors and technology gurus. A PDP that is sincere about taking the country forward, would headhunt every Fashola on the landscape.

I believe that all Nigerian parties are the same. They all lack ideology and are basically interest groups jockeying for dividends from Abuja. However, there are clearly several visible and encouraging changes going on in PDP. The godfathers you talk about have been flushed out in quiet purges; the first was the cabal (they've run off to CPC), the second was with the transparent and commendable PDP primaries, and the 3rd happened last Saturday with the slaying of big beasts like Obj.

Gra gra politics is now out of PDP, so a man like Fashola will thrive. It shouldn't affect ACN though if he leaves, cos it will be after his tenure as gov when there'll no new height to climb in ACN.

. . .One more thing. With a GEJ win, I imagine all that zoning crap would be thrown out of the PDP constitution, replaced by merit and a more sensible way of representing Nigeria's diversity.

[quote author=Guru D. link=topic=643980.msg8105129#msg8105129 date=1302558722]Fashola is great as Governor but i have not seen any politicking from him. Politics is beyond excellent administrative skills or leadership qualities or visionary projects. It is a balancing act of diplomacy, statemanship, leadership and guile. Fashola may or may not hit the national stage but Tinubu is there, succeeding as we can see from the growth ( though small) of the ACN as an opposition party. Fashola might be the best governor in the whole world but without people like Tinubu (or any other political grand master), he will not get very far, ask Donald Duke.[/quote]My exact point.
Donald Dukes political career after his governorship looks as dead as a dodo. And that is not because he lacks vision and ambition, it is instead, for want of machinery with national tentacles to propel him forward. I wouldn't want Fashola to go the same way.

Tinubu is not playing on the national stage, neither does he have any reach or clout outside the SW, instead ACN is used outside the SW by politicians who need an easy ticket and they mostly tend to be dodgy like Akume and Udoedehe. Also, I don't see Tinubu ever allowing anyone outshine him in ACN; if Fashola has national ambitions (and God knows proven talents are needed at the centre), he will either need to build his machinery or join the PDP.

Amen! May our dream come true!

redsun:
How do we know who is not beaf on this forum?That guy is psychopathic

LOL!
. . .The haunted!

J12:
What of those wey no make am?

I took one look at yoiur profile and pleasantly died! Jesu Kristi!

Atiku's name has always been mentioned with bunkering and strange "militants," call it aboki MEND. But he isn't the only one.

This is an open secret to all Niger deltans and we kept screaming it during the crisis period, but other Nigerians hardly believed it.
The true bunkerers are ex-generals and "businessmen" from the core-North. It is well known that the militants killed an ex-presidents son in the creeks.

The by force Northern consensus candidate stuff is all about access to oil theft.
They know and the ND knows it. Northern consensus candidate = WAR.

redsun:
Yeah,i wonder how many bags of imported rice contract they gave u for u to be talking like this.Nigerian like you that have sold their souls for shackles of silver

Do you recall the argument we had about if pimping wives for foreign papers is a good thing? Dude, you have no right to talk about morals, cos you have none.

Its a changing country and for once, all Nigerians are proclaiming their love and pride. Its a beautiful time,

Ijogz K:
Hey guyz what do you think would become of our laughing political Godfather OBJ, his Clueless son GEJ and the Nigerian Political system if Buhari happens to win?

As for me, i think that GEJ might wanna make use of the militants to frustrate any leader that gets in if he happens to lose it.

Whats your view?

LOL!

You got jokes!!!

Stromae:
Beaf do Turai Yar'Adua or any of the names you mentioned fraternize frequently and freely with Buhari, the way Obasanjo, Alameisigha, Anenih, etc associate with Jonathan?

You have no moral right to even argue here because after the Jonathan family celebrated Bode George we all confirmed our suspicions of Jonathan's cheap and misplaced loyalties.

Yes, they are key to his success and are very intimately involved with his campaign, recruiting religious bigots and almajiri crowds with their financial might and what not. Its all here dude:

It was gathered that so far, Buhari’s men are relying on religion as the main campaign weapon to prosecute the election in parts of the North.

“Some religious leaders were being recruited to continually highlight religious differences as an issue in the coming election and most of them singing the Buhari song,” a source said at the weekend.

. . .

It was also gathered that key supporters of Buhari in the zone including Senator Adamu Aliero, Dr. Tanimu Yakubu and  Dr. Sauyyadi Abba Ruma are recruiting the crowd heavily to pass a message of popularity whenever Buhari campaigns anywhere in the North.

But Buhari’s association with the likes of Aliero and Ruma is also said to be courting him some displeasure among the discerning public, especially in view of the roles played by many of them during the prolonged illness of the late president Umaru Yar’Adua.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/sun/index.php/front-page-articles/3323-buhari-shuns-acf-uf-elite-loses-grip-of-north-cpc-gubernatorial-candidate-arrested?fontstyle=f-smaller

[center][size=14pt]I am Goodluck Jonathan
I never thought I would be where I am today
I had no shoes, no school bag; I carried my books in my hands to school
I have no enemies to fight
I was not born rich
I am Goodluck Jonathan
If I can make it, you can make it[/size][/center]

Oya, vex if you wan vex! Burst if you wan burst!
. . .But for once, the man on the street feels a deep sence of belonging; they feel a President they can bond, one who listens and feels foe them, one who is like them and desires the best for them.

Is there ready proof of this?
Oh yes! Not only has he barnished the demonic fuel shortages, he has ferried Nigerians out of foreign trouble spots (a first in Nigeria's history) and opened communication lines with Nigerians in disaster areas. Just last week, rather than the usual turmult and death, we actually had the first free and fair elections.
. . .The list is unending, what a guy!

[size=14pt]Witness history as a New Nigeria is being built![/size]

There is victory in truth, simplicity, vision and goodwill to your fellow man.

GEJ has the vision and dedication to set Nigeria on the path to realisation and development.
GEJ is Nigeria's gateway to greatness. His defeat of the cabal and its sectional interests will begin our countries cleansing; it will open the path for leadership talent like the Sule Lamido's, Amaechi's, Akpabios's, Chime's, Fashola's, Utomi's etc to be able to contest by merit on a level playing field, in elections that are free and fair.

Nigeria needs the cool, calm, wise, intelligent and reassured head that sits on Jonathans shoulders. He alone has the vision, honesty, diplomatic nous and social dexterity needed to weld the disparate parts of Nigeria into one indivisible union with shared goals and ideals.

Of all the candidates, GEJ is the only one to display a grasp of the tools required for our technological development. From ideas to set 1% of our GDP aside for Research and Development in science and technology, to siezing control of petroleum industry from foreign parasites and spongers (like Shell) through far reaching programmes like the gas master-plans and petroleum industry bill (PIB); all of these amongst others. A truly great guy!

[size=42pt]Fresh Air 2011!![/size]

www.nairaland.com/attachments/396240_JonathanNigeria_jpge7a36aa6bc0c2d1c59341bf005b3e97c

Stromae:
Why do you people disturb yourselves so much about Buhari and Bakare? Do you have have nightmares about them? Let us support our man in peace!

If Turai has decided of her own volition to support Buhari then why not, she is a human being with free will. Buhari/Bakare has never mentioned anything about her, so why kill yourself over irrelevant issues?

Sai Buhari!

Irrelevant? Damn!
If Turai wasn't the cabals capone, it might be passable. Also, if it wasn't that other powerful members of the cabal are actively involved in Buhari's campaign, including recruiting almajiri's, then we might have let it pass.
However, the reality is very worrying:

It was gathered that so far, Buhari’s men are relying on religion as the main campaign weapon to prosecute the election in parts of the North.

“Some religious leaders were being recruited to continually highlight religious differences as an issue in the coming election and most of them singing the Buhari song,” a source said at the weekend.

. . .

It was also gathered that key supporters of Buhari in the zone including Senator Adamu Aliero, Dr. Tanimu Yakubu and Dr. Sauyyadi Abba Ruma are recruiting the crowd heavily to pass a message of popularity whenever Buhari campaigns anywhere in the North.

But Buhari’s association with the likes of Aliero and Ruma is also said to be courting him some displeasure among the discerning public, especially in view of the roles played by many of them during the prolonged illness of the late president Umaru Yar’Adua.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/sun/index.php/front-page-articles/3323-buhari-shuns-acf-uf-elite-loses-grip-of-north-cpc-gubernatorial-candidate-arrested?fontstyle=f-smaller

abrahamzo:
Thank u 4 alerting me. i rushed 2 my TV immediately I saw your post. For d 1st time, I saw why CPC cleared some senatorial sits @ d post. I personally wanted 2 work 4 GEJ as a Niger Deltan but seeing d way he is wasting our resources, I changed my mind even though I would have been well paid @ his campaign organisation @ Asaba. Pst Bakare is a man dat knows how to judiciously maximise resources while I don't know of any buhari's record of corruption. God bless d sponsor of d documentary.

. . .Another one of the strange specie of Nigerian called, aboki Niger Deltan. Lol!

danteweb:
Young people and the Nigeria we see

Has Ribadu been ejected? Why is he nowhere to be found on your poster?

Moves:
Whats all the hype about; Lets wait till atleast 2014 to start making connotations; for all we know fashola 2nd term maybe a disaster; Let him deliver on the Six lanes lagos badagry express; the Light Railway; if not 4th mainlain bridge atleast extend Mile 12- Ikorodu road to Four lanes whilst maintain similar of service delivery in other areas as obtainable presently, then we can talk; The above list project will show that he was able to conquer atleast the transportation monster facing lagos state. IMO

I doubt his 2nd term would be a disaster, he's already proven his mettle.
There are a few others in his class like Akpabio, Sule Lamido, Sullivan Chime and Ameachi; all of these men need to serve in bigger roles outside the confines of their state.

BTW, some of the projects you've mentioned are federal and others canot be completed in 4 years, so you're setting the bar a bit too high.

Timehin:
No be beans! Dont think the guy get liver for such a move. Theres too much money, much mega corruption, in this mega city of ours and attempt like that will expose mega can of worms!

Gaddem! That would be a show stopper, but its the more reason he needs to destroy all links with Tinubu. Then he can flick the dust off his clothes and hit Abuja.

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=643980.msg8103137#msg8103137 date=1302540359]Really? What is the Ideology of PDP?

I know Fashola, Tinubu and ACN have gone on record to argue for State police, more State control of revenue, a weak center and even resource control -If we see them as the same ACN of the AC period- ACN Assembly members are always at the forefront of several reformist pushes in the HOA: FOI bill, diaspora voting e.t.c  -I'm glad Uncle Sola Adeyeye of ACN is back in the House of Assembly as a Senator!- I wish we have more of them.

whereas OBJ  has gone on record to oppose a lot of these things on behalf of PDP and the Nigerian Military-Political Establishment, FOI bill comes to mind. That was also the difference between OBJ and Bola Ige +the founders of AC and by extention ACN.

CPC has promised similar structural changes in addition to their stance on corruption, GEJ has not.

I'm not sure if it's because GEJ does not believe these things are necessary or he's just trying to be strategic. Personally, I'm guessing he knew he won't win if he'd promise those things especially when he was running against Northern pro-establishment candidates in PDP. That is another reason why I doubt GEJ will have the balls to control the pro-establishment hawks and governors he's scared of opposing in PDP right now.

On economic ideology; as confusing as the Nigerian "political-economic" landscape is, ACN has shown they can work well in a privatised environment in Lagos, but we can't speak too much about that since the power to privatise and liberalize most of our state companies and utilities lies with the Federal Government for now.

But in the states controlled by the ACN (Lagos and Edo), we have seen a greater push for taxation and citizen involvement in government funding and that will only empower people to demand for more accountability. You saw that kind of citizen demand and empowerment during the Lagos Lekki Concession saga! people power forced Fashola to back down a bit!

Taxes make the people powerful and ACN is encouraging it.

What do we see in PDP states? What is GEJ's position and ideology?

Weak center? strong center?

resource control? state police? free press?

Greater protection from state security? Taxation? welfarism? capitalism? socialism? True Federalism?

I'm not hearing anything from my brotha in Aso Rock.[/quote]I wonder why the talk about Obj? He isn't PDP, he might be a senior member, but he isn't PDP and he ruled almost a decade ago.
90% of the things you mentioned do not form an ideology either.

As for the bolded, GEJ is a quiet operator, something thats really necessary because of the type of politics we practice in Nigeria. You really need to keep your ear to the ground until after the elections, which GEJ will win by the grace of God.
Until that time, I'll tell you though that he will take the party toward true federalism, a welfarist capitalism, citizen empowerment, education and technology; and they are already looking to alter the very obnoxious land use decree. A lot of these things cannot be discussed by the FG until the weeding of the farm is completed.

You never know, when the box is opened, it might prick Fashola's interest. That man cannot be allowed to retire into obscurity when he is done as gov.

forpeace:
ROBERT BESSELING of Al-Jazeera just made it known on the international news channel that GEJ is unable to account for 22billion dollars of money from the excess crude accouint. .what a shame . .nigeria's failures being analyzed by foreigners. .

BTW,Nigeria is Africa's no1 crudeoil exporter and nothing to show

Abeg, we are talking about Fashola here. I'll be glad when the elections are over, cos a lot of you guys that just talk OP for no reason will be gone.

MRbrownJAY:
Thank god I couldn't watch that race!!!
Now, can someone explain to me this: both Alonso and the Ham got 20 second penalty added to their final time but only Ham lost position down to seven while Alonso remain higher?!

Its the gaps they had to the drivers behind them, thats why. Alonso had more than a 20 second gap, but Lewis had about 3 seconds only to the next man. Lewis really fell back so fast, it was incredible.

montelik:
According to Pedro De La Rosa, Lewis used all his other tyres during qualifying.

No, Lewis places it on poor strategy from McLaren. Also both McLarens had the same number of tyres as the Red Bulls, and both teams had more choices than al the others after quali. IMHO McLaren thought the new ultra smooth Lewis could make it to the end without having to stop, hence the hard tyre choice.

But in Malaysia yesterday, the 26-year-old was far from happy as he criticised the team's strategy, tyre choice and pit stops, before falling foul of the stewards again.
. . .
The strategy wasn't perfect, a pit-stop wasn't perfect, but that is the way it goes.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing/lewis-hamilton-points-to-consistency-in-title-challenge-2266343.html

jason123:
As I said earlier, Tinubu is inconsequential to Fashola's political future as long as Fashola remains good in the eyes of Nigerians and Tinubu knows this. In fact, to prove Tinubu knew this, he tried not nominate Fashola for the governorship ticket in Lagos and we all saw what happened, didn't we? Tinubu knows this as well.

Again, you need someone like Tinubu to play the drity politics in Nigeria so Fashola can concentrate on better things. Right now, as you projected; it will take around 6 yrs for Fashola to have a political strong party, by that his momentum will be low and might not win on the national stage. He needs dirty politics and Tinubu can provide that for him.
BTW, remember PDP is seen as an EVIL party. The only thing going for PDP is GEJ. Once GEJ is out, I seriously doubt PDP will ever be taken serious again. I think most of these good governors will join ACN as the time goes on. Who knew Sariki of PDP in Lagos would join ACN For him to join, I strongly believe most people will decamp as the time goes on and after GEJ. PDP will simply return to a northern party especially IF ACN can pair up Fashola and Chime or any of those governors.

If GEJ wins the election, I believe there will be massive purges and restructuring in PDP. It would also become the first political party in this dispensation with an ideology. Perceptions of evil can be barnished quite rapidly and replaced with perceptions of caring sophistication.
If the above happens, then in the next few months, the likes of Tinubu will begin to look as hideous as angels from Beelzebub, and Fashola would be in a hurry to drop any associations.

sbeezy8:
Fashola wont leave ACN the party where ALL HIS FAMILY IS?

everyone in his family
BANIRES, KOSOKOS, BALOGUNS lol all ACN.

i mean if everyone in your family is acn would you leave?

I used to have a babe from one of those families, so maybe me sef go join ACN!

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=643980.msg8101944#msg8101944 date=1302530958]I think so too, Nigerians will become more sophisticated politically. I totally share that hope.

BUT

A sophisticated population does not need a one party, one ideology, political landscape. That will defeat the point of their sophistication.

ACN has as much chance of becoming a National party as PDP had in '99. Let us appreciate the good fight ACN and other opposition parties gave the PDP behemoth in Benue, Kwara, Akwa Ibom, Edo, Ondo and other parts of Nigeria. Even ACN faced decent opposition from smaller parties in their region. Nigerians are the winner despite the allegations of rigging an intimidation.

A one party state will do us no good. Politics is not a one way street, especially if you are hoping for a sophisticated political landscape.[/quote]You cannot fight a behemoth like PDP from a regional position. That will only entrench the one party state you so fear, cos regional parties will simply be swated aside like pesky flies.
To go with the theme of the thread, none of the regional parties can ever get Fashola on the national scene where he belongs. ACN for one, has reached its zenith; outside Yoruba land, it has picked up mainly desperate politicians like Udoedehe and Akume; there are a couple of exception like Ngige though, but in his case, he is more like using ACN, since as an ex-gov, he has extensive polital machinery, he just needed a vehicle.

sbeezy8:
i like fashola but hes not influential in the SW scheme of things honestly. not even lagos when his term ends

If he doesnt run for president anytime soon he will retire and be like Jakande.

If see fashola being like Jakande if he doesnt run for president.

but Fashola being a big dog in Lagos or SW aint possible. its not him

If he gets the opportunity to become a big dog in Nigeria, he'll sieze it and Nigeria will be glad for it. The issue to be resolved is how he can be furnished with the necessary tools after he finishes with Lagos in four years time. I mean. he's too young to retire like Jakande.

jason123:
You have a point but you are also implying that parties will be voted for based on ideologies (the labour part) which I think we are far from. One thing is noticeable after the Saturday election, people are now voting based on personalities not on parties and it is the same thing that is going to help GEJ on saturday.
Going by that principle (assuming the country get more sophisticated politically), I see people voting for Fashola as the president after GEJ based on what he can do not on his party.
Moreover, between now and then, ACN will spread to the ND and NC states, there will be mergers of political parties ( the most feasible so far is LP and ACN), decamping of all sorts- and who knows? Maybe one of those governors (Amechi, Chime, Sule, Godswill) will decamp especially after being offered the presidential ticket under ACN.

All in all, I still think Fashola will not decamp or should I say, does not need to decamp before he can go national. Remember, Lagos is the melting point of the country where ethnic lines are barely visible. People come from all around the country to Lagos everyday and I am sure they can see what he is doing or done already. I even see the SE supporting him more than other groups because he has treated the Igbo population in Lagos well.

Nigerians will indeed become more sophisticated politically, much more so than they are today. Now, in a politically sophisticated society, what part does a regional party have to play, except in local affairs?
If Fashola ever needs to go national as a minister or for the top job, he would need national machinery. Thats practical. I just can't see how he can project himself from ACN thats a party Tinubu has built around extortion and patronage. Take away Fashola, and ACN becomes hollow.

Of course Fashola can eject Tinubu from the party, remove all vestiges of the patronage system and run for office from there; but that it will be a 5 - 6 year project of blood and gore just to eject Tinubu and his patronage structure. After that, it would take another few years to rebuild the party and patch up wounds.